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Post by DuncShearer* on Jul 29, 2022 22:28:40 GMT 1
I said REG is a league one player,and sadly so are most of the others on that performance. He wasn’t the problem Nope he wasnt the non existent midfield was they were all piss poor Russell Hogg Holmes Sorba Koroma the lot of them shite tonight. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 29, 2022 22:29:29 GMT 1
Sorba wasn’t happy when Kasumu went off - shrugged his shoulders and shook his head to Ward and then covered his mouth and said something
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 29, 2022 22:29:59 GMT 1
God this ref is fucking shit As he was when he turned down 4 penalties v Sheffield United last season |
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Post by finnmurphy1 on Jul 29, 2022 22:30:05 GMT 1
Schofield looked lost. The succession planning angle is complete bollocks. He’s an inexperienced, limited coach who is trying to hide behind formations. Pick your strongest side and keep it simple. You aren’t Carlos. That starting 11 was a joke
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 29, 2022 22:31:57 GMT 1
Schofield looked lost. The succession planning angle is complete bollocks. He’s an inexperienced, limited coach who is trying to hide behind formations. Pick your strongest side and keep it simple. You aren’t Carlos. That starting 11 was a joke Hard to find positives from that performance but I did like his substitutions. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 29, 2022 22:32:22 GMT 1
He can only get better, can't he? Let’s bloody hope so, worst player on the pitch tonight by a long way He was dog shit tonight but Koroma made him look like Ronaldinho. It was like starting with 9 men today Koroma and Holmes were that bad. Then kf the |
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Post by specialun on Jul 29, 2022 22:32:51 GMT 1
Thanks to Carlos
Fecked up the tactics and team selection when it mattered in the play off final
Fecked off when the going got tough
Ridiculous short pre season - undercooked at best - thanks as above & schedule
Stronger league than weakest championship last season
Lost 3 of our best players
Arrivals in late - most young with potential
Transition season
Hopefully better than the nightmare of Carlos’ first season
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Post by harris on Jul 29, 2022 22:33:21 GMT 1
Let’s bloody hope so, worst player on the pitch tonight by a long way He was dog shit tonight but Koroma made him look like Ronaldinho. It was like starting with 9 men today Koroma and Holmes were that bad. Then kf the Sorba=Homes=Koroma - absolute shite. Tino showed more in 15 mins than the rest of them combined |
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Post by harris on Jul 29, 2022 22:33:58 GMT 1
Thanks to Carlos Fecked up the tactics and team selection when it mattered in the play off final Fecked off when the going got tough Ridiculous short pre season - undercooked at best Stronger league Lost 3 of our best players Arrivals in late - most young with potential Transition season Hopefully better than the nightmare of Carlos’ first season Fair few on here will tell you Carlos going was a good thing |
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Post by loumacari on Jul 29, 2022 22:34:33 GMT 1
Schofield looked lost. The succession planning angle is complete bollocks. He’s an inexperienced, limited coach who is trying to hide behind formations. Pick your strongest side and keep it simple. You aren’t Carlos. That starting 11 was a joke Hard to find positives from that performance but I did like his substitutions. Stevie Wonder could’ve seen we needed to make those changes. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jul 29, 2022 22:35:46 GMT 1
I think DS learned 2 important lessons tonight
1) always play your strongest team
2) never play Koroma again
Overall, although the first half was so disappointing, I left the ground thinking that once we do get our strongest team together, we will look much better and win more than we lose. Onto the next one.
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Post by drewden on Jul 29, 2022 22:36:57 GMT 1
Nope he wasnt the non existent midfield was they were all piss poor Russell Hogg Holmes Sorba Koroma the lot of them shite tonight. Not seen a midfield that bad, it was non existent. |
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Post by nabbysarratemyhamster on Jul 29, 2022 22:38:48 GMT 1
Nicholls : couldn’t do anything with the goal, seem to be sending it a lot longer thanks last season and distribution was average. 6
Turton : Looked similar to early part of last season, misplaced passes and seem to lack confidence 5
Lees : Best starter in the face of a difficult task against Barnes. 6.5
REG : seen a bit of criticism but think he is up to this level and didn’t do a lot wrong in my opinion. 6
Ruffels : We will miss Toff but we will miss him more if Josh Ruffels is the answer. 4
Hogg : He is a legend, but was ran ragged by an accomplished midfield. 5
Russell : Has an arrogance in position he is not worth off in my opinion and distribution was poorest I’ve seen from him. 4
Karoma : He stunk the place out tonight I’m afraid. 3
Holmes : Rivalled Koroma for the worst in a Town shirt. 3
Thomas : limitations are exposed against good full backs and faced one tonight. Poor evening 4
Ward : Powerless to affect the game but didn’t look busy enough. 4
Tino : Good cameo but let’s not get carried away… nevertheless was the best in blue and white by some distance. 7
Rudoni : looked to get on the ball and was busy but was unable to affect change 6
Kasumu : Danny Williams mark 2 in terms of style and injury prone… felt he did ok 5.5
Rhodes & Yuta not fair to rate them.
The energy we showed on the picture mirrored the energy on the bench or lack of energy.
The friend I sat next to said it felt like siewert it’s way too early but as good as Burnley were (there players were all 7/8) that was very poor and we only huffed we didn’t even puff in my opinion.
Let’s hope for improvement next week it’s only one game and one we probably could expect to lose (like Fulham)
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Post by stevvy on Jul 29, 2022 22:39:20 GMT 1
If we play like we did in the first half for the rest of the season, we'll score 6 goals all season and pick up 4 points.
We literally played like we didn't give a shit in the first half. Every time they had the ball they had SO much space. They were toying with us. It was easy. They didn't have to try. The amount of times they got us down the wings was ridiculous. We couldn't string any passes together.
Literally the only positive is that we only lost 1-0. Got what we deserved.
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Jul 29, 2022 22:40:23 GMT 1
I get that you have to be somewhat loyal to your longer standing players, but you could see from the starting lineup and the first 10 minutes that it wasn’t working.
The subs were positive, but too late, with no change in formation or style, just hoping the same thing that wasn’t working will work. Let’s hope this is almost a passing of the guard, certain players are simply not good enough and need to stop out to make way for the new blood.
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 29, 2022 22:41:28 GMT 1
Mainly disappointed that they seemed to take to the occasion more than we did. First game of the season at home….
It would’ve been really good for our players to show more of what we’re about, but we were just really poor, especially first half.
Hopefully It’s a kick up the arse to all of them that we need extremely high standards to compete in this league.
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Post by 28901 on Jul 29, 2022 22:42:35 GMT 1
Schofield says Kasumu has done his hamstring and Pearson will be out for months. Well thats great. |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 29, 2022 22:43:16 GMT 1
We were not in the match at half time and we did not get any worse in the second half. We were lifted a little by the subs but not enough to actually look like scoring.
I did say that we would play like strangers with not playing the first 11 together in the warm up matches and it turns out I was right. We were unfit no idea how to press and could not find each other with a pass.
I said that the energy and drive in the team was LOB and Toff and we would miss them and we certainly did tonight. We have to hope that someone else can find the energy and drive for the team once we get them fit enough.
How good were Burnley, I don't think we know because we were that poor it is difficult to tell. If they were really good they would have created more clear cut chances and we would have lost by a lot more.
We have to get fit, play together and do it quickly. If there is any money let under the mattress, lets get it out and get some quality in in midfield and up front asap.
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Post by harris on Jul 29, 2022 22:43:40 GMT 1
Nicholls : couldn’t do anything with the goal, seem to be sending it a lot longer thanks last season and distribution was average. 6 Turton : Looked similar to early part of last season, misplaced passes and seem to lack confidence 5 Lees : Best starter in the face of a difficult task against Barnes. 6.5 REG : seen a bit of criticism but think he is up to this level and didn’t do a lot wrong in my opinion. 6 Ruffels : We will miss Toff but we will miss him more if Josh Ruffels is the answer. 4 Hogg : He is a legend, but was ran ragged by an accomplished midfield. 5 Russell : Has an arrogance in position he is not worth off in my opinion and distribution was poorest I’ve seen from him. 4 Karoma : He stunk the place out tonight I’m afraid. 3 Holmes : Rivalled Koroma for the worst in a Town shirt. 3 Thomas : limitations are exposed against good full backs and faced one tonight. Poor evening 4 Ward : Powerless to affect the game but didn’t look busy enough. 4 Tino : Good cameo but let’s not get carried away… nevertheless was the best in blue and white by some distance. 7 Rudoni : looked to get on the ball and was busy but was unable to affect change 6 Kasumu : Danny Williams mark 2 in terms of style and injury prone… felt he did ok 5.5 Rhodes & Yuta not fair to rate them. The energy we showed on the picture mirrored the energy on the bench or lack of energy. The friend I sat next to said it felt like siewert it’s way too early but as good as Burnley were (there players were all 7/8) that was very poor and we only huffed we didn’t even puff in my opinion. Let’s hope for improvement next week it’s only one game and one we probably could expect to lose (like Fulham) Great overview, bar Kasumu who came on, got rinsed down the left wing then got injured. Doesn’t deserve any higher than the worst player on the pitch |
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Post by H7 on Jul 29, 2022 22:43:48 GMT 1
Can someone who was optimistic before this game explain to me why? We have lost every single key player from last season other than Thomas and replaced them with players that couldn’t even make the match squad consistently last season. It’s absolutely laughable and on top of that we don’t have the coach behind our tactics and results. Only positive was Tino when he came on. Long long season ahead I am afraid.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 29, 2022 22:44:00 GMT 1
Saw the first half highlights on the concourse at HT, Barnes (?) stood offside and blocking Nicholls view for the goal, but they should have had a penalty too
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Post by 28901 on Jul 29, 2022 22:44:14 GMT 1
Schofield looked lost. The succession planning angle is complete bollocks. He’s an inexperienced, limited coach who is trying to hide behind formations. Pick your strongest side and keep it simple. You aren’t Carlos. That starting 11 was a joke Hard to find positives from that performance but I did like his substitutions. My cat could have made those subs. |
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Post by mrg1 on Jul 29, 2022 22:46:11 GMT 1
That was difficult though as has been said, town need to play their strongest 11 now 2 senior pros have left (pipa only started 6 games i think last year, as good as he was we can live without him).
The 2 teenagers/young pros in defence was always a gamble, then we have a weakened midfield with all young pros except hoggy.
As we now have bought young players to replace senior pros they need to play in positions they are comfortable with. Rhodes needed to come on earlier (not for the first time) and probably he was the switch with koroma.
Need to be tighter at the back and better in midfield. Were lucky to get nil tonight really. The erroneous idea that town dont need another striker probably needs looking at aswell. If we haven't got 2.5m to spend on a decent striker something is seriously wrong and noone is responsible for that except the board.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 29, 2022 22:46:22 GMT 1
I see the criticism and agree with lots of it but 2nd half much better I think koroma was dire reg looked nervous
All the players looked better Inthe last 30 minutes
Tino and rudoni must start
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 29, 2022 22:46:59 GMT 1
Nicholls : couldn’t do anything with the goal, seem to be sending it a lot longer thanks last season and distribution was average. 6 Turton : Looked similar to early part of last season, misplaced passes and seem to lack confidence 5 Lees : Best starter in the face of a difficult task against Barnes. 6.5 REG : seen a bit of criticism but think he is up to this level and didn’t do a lot wrong in my opinion. 6 Ruffels : We will miss Toff but we will miss him more if Josh Ruffels is the answer. 4 Hogg : He is a legend, but was ran ragged by an accomplished midfield. 5 Russell : Has an arrogance in position he is not worth off in my opinion and distribution was poorest I’ve seen from him. 4 Karoma : He stunk the place out tonight I’m afraid. 3 Holmes : Rivalled Koroma for the worst in a Town shirt. 3 Thomas : limitations are exposed against good full backs and faced one tonight. Poor evening 4 Ward : Powerless to affect the game but didn’t look busy enough. 4 Tino : Good cameo but let’s not get carried away… nevertheless was the best in blue and white by some distance. 7 Rudoni : looked to get on the ball and was busy but was unable to affect change 6 Kasumu : Danny Williams mark 2 in terms of style and injury prone… felt he did ok 5.5 Rhodes & Yuta not fair to rate them. The energy we showed on the picture mirrored the energy on the bench or lack of energy. The friend I sat next to said it felt like siewert it’s way too early but as good as Burnley were (there players were all 7/8) that was very poor and we only huffed we didn’t even puff in my opinion. Let’s hope for improvement next week it’s only one game and one we probably could expect to lose (like Fulham) Great overview, bar Kasumu who came on, got rinsed down the left wing then got injured. Doesn’t deserve any higher than the worst player on the pitch Harsh, he came on and got stuck in, which no other midfielder did, then got injured making a superb tackle that the fuckwit Linnington booked him for 🙄 |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jul 29, 2022 22:48:27 GMT 1
Brutal, brutal, brutal.
Where do you start after that performance.
Koroma, why oh why hasn’t he been punted. Take Holmes with you too. Anytime Koroma got the ball he gave it away or just made brutal touches or bad decisions. Holmes was absolutely anonymous, flat footed.
Our press tonight was awful, no coordination and easily bypassed. We literally looked to have 8 men out there tonight.
Our midfield was guilty of wanting an hour on the ball, they might have got that against league 1 opposition in the preseason but we were never going to get that in the championship. As a consequence we had the ball pinched off us as soon as we got it.
Ball speed - so many passes left short, players waiting for the ball that takes forever to arrive who are then under pressure from the opposition who are running as fast as we are passing it. U/12’s pass the ball with more intent.
What a surprise, we recruit an injury prone player and he gets injured.
Anyone who thinks LOB used to just run around the park, I hope you now understand he was the linchpin in our midfield. We missed his energy, speed of thought, tenacity and his drive. Hogg and Russell were too slow. Hogg is finished.
Ward was anonymous. Can he at least stay onside so when he does try to contribute he does.
Sorba didn’t put a foot right.
Schofield, I don’t know what he’s done in 3 weeks, but it looks like not much.
Burnley fan on here before complaining about the fire sale. Well that’s what we should have done. Rather than paying players who didn’t want to be here, we should have punted them all. Our parachute payments were totally wasted on them. At least Burnley have spent them on hungry young talent.
Bromby on the phone, nobody is coming here after that performance. Skint, an unproven coach, and no midfield. What could possibly go wrong.
So so so much work to do.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jul 29, 2022 22:49:18 GMT 1
I get that you have to be somewhat loyal to your longer standing players, but you could see from the starting lineup and the first 10 minutes that it wasn’t working. The subs were positive, but too late, with no change in formation or style, just hoping the same thing that wasn’t working will work. Let’s hope this is almost a passing of the guard, certain players are simply not good enough and need to stop out to make way for the new blood. How can bringing Rhodes on at 88 minutes be positive, he should have been on from the start!!! |
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Post by harris on Jul 29, 2022 22:49:18 GMT 1
Great overview, bar Kasumu who came on, got rinsed down the left wing then got injured. Doesn’t deserve any higher than the worst player on the pitch Harsh, he came on and got stuck in, which no other midfielder did, then got injured making a superb tackle that the fuckwit Linnington booked him for 🙄 That was a shocking decision, but still don’t think he was more than a 4 |
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Post by 28901 on Jul 29, 2022 22:50:10 GMT 1
Great overview, bar Kasumu who came on, got rinsed down the left wing then got injured. Doesn’t deserve any higher than the worst player on the pitch Harsh, he came on and got stuck in, which no other midfielder did, then got injured making a superb tackle that the fuckwit Linnington booked him for 🙄 Linnington was utterly dreadful. I'm absolutely sick of these c****. |
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Post by 28901 on Jul 29, 2022 22:52:03 GMT 1
Brutal, brutal, brutal. Where do you start after that performance. Koroma, why oh why hasn’t he been punted. Take Holmes with you too. Anytime Koroma got the ball he gave it away or just made brutal touches or bad decisions. Holmes was absolutely anonymous, flat footed. Our press tonight was awful, no coordination and easily bypassed. We literally looked to have 8 men out there tonight. Our midfield was guilty of wanting an hour on the ball, they might have got that against league 1 opposition in the preseason but we were never going to get that in the championship. As a consequence we had the ball pinched off us as soon as we got it. Ball speed - so many passes left short, players waiting for the ball that takes forever to arrive who are then under pressure from the opposition who are running as fast as we are passing it. U/12’s pass the ball with more intent. What a surprise, we recruit an injury prone player and he gets injured. Anyone who thinks LOB used to just run around the park, I hope you now understand he was the linchpin in our midfield. We missed his energy, speed of thought, tenacity and his drive. Hogg and Russell were too slow. Hogg is finished. Ward was anonymous. Can he at least stay onside so when he does try to contribute he does. Sorba didn’t put a foot right. Schofield, I don’t know what he’s done in 3 weeks, but it looks like not much. Burnley fan on here before complaining about the fire sale. Well that’s what we should have done. Rather than paying players who didn’t want to be here, we should have punted them all. Our parachute payments were totally wasted on them. At least Burnley have spent them on hungry young talent. Bromby on the phone, nobody is coming here after that performance. Skint, an unproven coach, and no midfield. What could possibly go wrong. So so so much work to do. Cock on that |
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