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Post by rockwall on Jul 29, 2022 22:52:14 GMT 1
God this ref is fucking shit As he was when he turned down 4 penalties v Sheffield United last season Linington has been wank for us over the years but tonight, I dont see what he did wrong, apart from not give Burnley a stonewall pen |
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Jul 29, 2022 22:53:19 GMT 1
I get that you have to be somewhat loyal to your longer standing players, but you could see from the starting lineup and the first 10 minutes that it wasn’t working. The subs were positive, but too late, with no change in formation or style, just hoping the same thing that wasn’t working will work. Let’s hope this is almost a passing of the guard, certain players are simply not good enough and need to stop out to make way for the new blood. How can bringing Rhodes on at 88 minutes be positive, he should have been on from the start!!! I completely forgot about those late subs, I was so bored by that point. Too little, too late. |
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Post by Moooooy on Jul 29, 2022 22:53:20 GMT 1
I see the criticism and agree with lots of it but 2nd half much better I think koroma was dire reg looked nervous All the players looked better Inthe last 30 minutes Tino and rudoni must start 2nd half much better? Slightly improved for 10 minutes after the subs came on but soon reverted to type. We still never looked like scoring, or even getting close to their goal. It’s only the first game so I’m trying to stay level headed but there was nothing about that performance that looked remotely competitive. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Jul 29, 2022 22:54:02 GMT 1
He was dog shit tonight but Koroma made him look like Ronaldinho. It was like starting with 9 men today Koroma and Holmes were that bad. Then kf the Sorba=Homes=Koroma - absolute shite. Tino showed more in 15 mins than the rest of them combined Agree , koroma may be lacking comfidence but does that stop him putting a shift in - no ( get rid lads a pathetic footballer) . Holmes was he actually playing, and ST Jesus hope to god we don’t have another billy big bollock who has one good season and thinks he’s too good for us. Put in a shift it’s not rocket science. Tinio well done lifted the team instantly. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 29, 2022 22:55:02 GMT 1
As he was when he turned down 4 penalties v Sheffield United last season Linington has been wank for us over the years but tonight, I dont see what he did wrong, apart from not give Burnley a stonewall pen One thing that always pisses me off is how refs book the keeper and not the outfield player when they try pulling the time wasting trick. It was Taylor who had pretended to take the free kick for 60 seconds and then wandered off. He should have been booked but these spineless refs can give meaningless bookings to keepers knowing it isn't going to impact the game |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jul 29, 2022 22:55:09 GMT 1
Switched off after 35 mins. We should have been 0-3 at that point.
Interested to see how the new players get on when they start next week
That was dire but so was our first home game last season….
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Post by DuncShearer* on Jul 29, 2022 22:55:44 GMT 1
As he was when he turned down 4 penalties v Sheffield United last season Linington has been wank for us over the years but tonight, I dont see what he did wrong, apart from not give Burnley a stonewall pen well the fact he gave them a free kick for offside and let them take it in our half for one. Unless you can be offside in your own half now 🤷♂️ he was gash |
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Post by evidentlychickentown on Jul 29, 2022 22:55:49 GMT 1
Haven’t read the rest of this thread as just got back, but I would be amazed if I’m saying anything different to every other poster. That first 56 minutes was the most abysmal performance I have seen in many years. Last season we had some shockers at home against Boro, Forest, Swansea and perhaps Stoke (I won’t count Fulham as that was Schofield related), but those performances looked classy compared to that shit show. This does not bode well for Schofield, he picked the wrong side and tactically we were all over the place. Defensively a shambles, left their left back with the freedom of the park, didn’t win a second ball, or a tackle, didn’t press, couldn’t pass to a teammate - it was truly horrible. Burnley on the other hand passed the ball, put 3 men on Russell and just kept giving the ball to the left back as apparently we didn’t notice he was playing. CC would have closed that space down after minutes but Schofield never indicated the problem to Turton and Thomas and they never responded - it was an embarrassment. As for Koroma I hope he never plays for us again - just get rid - he’s a one trick pony who’s lost his trick. And don’t get me started on Holmes, totally anonymous he literally contributed nothing. Schofield left it too late to bring on Anjorin and Rudoni who brought about instant change and highlighted just how bad the selection was. Then Danny leaves it far too late to bring on Rhodes and Kasamu, let alone our full Japanese International. I genuinely wanted Schofield to succeed but I have already lost confidence - not just because we lost but the gap between the sides was so enormous we could quite easily have been 4 down if not for poor finishing and Nichols being Nichols. As for positives, well clearly we have 2 good players in Anjorin and Rudoni and Kasamu looked promising in his brief cameo but that injury is worrying as he has a reputation for not staying fit for long and this on the day we let Scott High leave. What do we do if this is a long absence and either Hogg or Russell pick up an injury ? Very depressing start to the season - I hope these comments haven’t captured the mood of everyone else, but I suspect they have !
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Post by space hardware on Jul 29, 2022 22:55:50 GMT 1
Saw the first half highlights on the concourse at HT, Barnes (?) stood offside and blocking Nicholls view for the goal, but they should have had a penalty too Barnes was born in an offside position 😁. |
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Post by H7 on Jul 29, 2022 22:57:02 GMT 1
I see the criticism and agree with lots of it but 2nd half much better I think koroma was dire reg looked nervous All the players looked better Inthe last 30 minutes Tino and rudoni must start 2nd half much better? Slightly improved for 10 minutes after the subs came on but soon reverted to type. We still never looked like scoring, or even getting close to their goal. It’s only the first game so I’m trying to stay level headed but there was nothing about that performance that looked remotely competitive. Totally agree. What should we expect when you sell all your key players and replace them with players that weren’t good enough for the starting XI last year. Just got to the hope tino and rudoni start and can bring some energy and drive. Injury prone Kasumu already out injured after playing 10 mins. |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 29, 2022 22:57:47 GMT 1
I see the criticism and agree with lots of it but 2nd half much better I think koroma was dire reg looked nervous All the players looked better Inthe last 30 minutes Tino and rudoni must start You need to reign it in a bit. |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 29, 2022 22:58:09 GMT 1
Linington has been wank for us over the years but tonight, I dont see what he did wrong, apart from not give Burnley a stonewall pen well the fact he gave them a free kick for offside and let them take it in our half for one. Unless you can be offside in your own half now 🤷♂️ he was gash Clutching at straws with that one. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2022 22:58:29 GMT 1
Just got back. After Burnley settled, about 10 minutes in, we were just lost. Hogg, Russell & Holmes were just passed around like they weren't there. Burnley's high press was effective and aggressive. Our back line had no time on the ball whereas we just stood off theirs and let them build. Koroma and Thomas, in the first half, were hardly in it but that was partly because Burnley had 75% possession or more, so they hardly saw the ball.
Second half subs changed things. Closed down and ran at the Burnley defence. Burnley started to look nervous just for a while, stray passes and losing possession but they regained their composure in the last 10-15 minutes or so. Maybe the injury to Kasumu showed why the new players didn't start, maybe just need easing in a bit more.
I was worried about REG but I thought he did OK given the lack of support in front of him for most of the game.
So, in a nutshell, we were really poor. The flip side of that coin is I don't think we will see many better teams than Burnley this season. They still look like a Premier League outfit. I think we need to see how we do against other sides to really judge. Also Danny needs time.
Last thing, Tino looks very good. Looks like he could run through brick walls. Completely changed the feel of the game when he came on.
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Post by DuncShearer* on Jul 29, 2022 22:59:40 GMT 1
well the fact he gave them a free kick for offside and let them take it in our half for one. Unless you can be offside in your own half now 🤷♂️ he was gash Clutching at straws with that one. so you can be offside in your own half ? |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Jul 29, 2022 23:00:44 GMT 1
First half was abysmal. Worse since Norwich away, if Burnley were competent we’d have been three or four down. Russell and Hogg aren’t mobile enough to play together and Ruffles was getting ridden by a kid, although Koroma gave him no help.
Generally the defence is fine, but there was a massive hole when our midfield should be. Kasumu at least put himself about. The top end needs building round Tino. Koroma is done, Thomas doesn’t seem fit yet but Rudoni looked lively.
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Post by 28901 on Jul 29, 2022 23:00:44 GMT 1
Switched off after 35 mins. We should have been 0-3 at that point. Interested to see how the new players get on when they start next week That was dire but so was our first home game last season…. Yeah but we had a comedian in goal. No team could compete without a proper goalkeeper. Once that change was made the defence improved no end. |
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Post by harris on Jul 29, 2022 23:01:44 GMT 1
Clutching at straws with that one. so you can be offside in your own half ? If the player controls the ball in their own half, coming from offside position.. the opposition can take it in that half. Just a rule I’m afraid |
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 29, 2022 23:01:53 GMT 1
Hard to find positives from that performance but I did like his substitutions. My cat could have made those subs. Paws for thought. |
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Post by jasrick on Jul 29, 2022 23:02:11 GMT 1
Burnley looked decent and organised but we really didn’t help ourselves. Too many bad performances all over the pitch. Russell seems to be sneaking under the radar but that was a real shocker from him - absolutely miles off it all night.
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Post by DuncShearer* on Jul 29, 2022 23:02:53 GMT 1
so you can be offside in your own half ? If the player controls the ball in their own half, coming from offside position.. the opposition can take it in that half. Just a rule I’m afraid well its a shit one lol |
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Post by harris on Jul 29, 2022 23:03:43 GMT 1
Who’d have thought we’d miss O’Brien? Good job Hoyle thinks he ain’t all that
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Post by stevvy on Jul 29, 2022 23:03:43 GMT 1
Harsh, he came on and got stuck in, which no other midfielder did, then got injured making a superb tackle that the fuckwit Linnington booked him for 🙄 Linnington was utterly dreadful. I'm absolutely sick of these c****. He was quite happy to let their keeper take a freekick 5-10 yards in (and the same further forward) from where a so called foul took place, yet at least twice he told us to move back a yard when taking a throw. When I heard he was the ref, I thought "oh fuck, not him". They're all shit though. Main thing he did right was booking them for timewasting with that free kick in the 2nd half where the defender, then the keeper, then the defender and then the keeper were going to take it. Should've booked both though |
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Post by Town1971 on Jul 29, 2022 23:03:50 GMT 1
Kasuma a whole 17 mins wow.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Jul 29, 2022 23:04:22 GMT 1
As he was when he turned down 4 penalties v Sheffield United last season Linington has been wank for us over the years but tonight, I dont see what he did wrong, apart from not give Burnley a stonewall pen That one in the second half where the foul (if it was a foul, looked like our lad got the ball to me given the way it moved) was a good three feet out of the area but their lad rolled about six times? |
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Post by harris on Jul 29, 2022 23:04:43 GMT 1
If the player controls the ball in their own half, coming from offside position.. the opposition can take it in that half. Just a rule I’m afraid well its a shit one lol I know but he did enforce the rule correctly, sorry to break it to you! Bit like no offsides from goal kicks, makes no sense 😂 |
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Post by H7 on Jul 29, 2022 23:06:04 GMT 1
Burnley looked decent and organised but we really didn’t help ourselves. Too many bad performances all over the pitch. Russell seems to be sneaking under the radar but that was a real shocker from him - absolutely miles off it all night. Russell and Hogg could play together last season because we played with a 3 and they had O’Brien who was capable of driving forward. They simply cannot play in a 2 together in the championship which was clear after about 10 minutes. |
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Post by 28901 on Jul 29, 2022 23:06:27 GMT 1
Kasuma a whole 17 mins wow. Out for the season. It was like he couldn't wait to get off. |
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Post by harris on Jul 29, 2022 23:07:05 GMT 1
Burnley looked decent and organised but we really didn’t help ourselves. Too many bad performances all over the pitch. Russell seems to be sneaking under the radar but that was a real shocker from him - absolutely miles off it all night. Russell and Hogg could play together last season because we played with a 3 and they had O’Brien who was capable of driving forward. They simply cannot play in a 2 together in the championship which was clear after about 10 minutes. It felt like a defensive midfield 2, but when we were on the back foot they were nowhere.. shitshow tonight |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 29, 2022 23:12:48 GMT 1
Burnley looked decent and organised but we really didn’t help ourselves. Too many bad performances all over the pitch. Russell seems to be sneaking under the radar but that was a real shocker from him - absolutely miles off it all night. Russell and Hogg could play together last season because we played with a 3 and they had O’Brien who was capable of driving forward. They simply cannot play in a 2 together in the championship which was clear after about 10 minutes. You have to have a runner in there. Hoggs pace has gone and Russell never had any. Holmes should have dropped in to help them but he just stood 39 yards away with ward. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Jul 29, 2022 23:14:07 GMT 1
Burnley looked decent and organised but we really didn’t help ourselves. Too many bad performances all over the pitch. Russell seems to be sneaking under the radar but that was a real shocker from him - absolutely miles off it all night. Russell and Hogg could play together last season because we played with a 3 and they had O’Brien who was capable of driving forward. They simply cannot play in a 2 together in the championship which was clear after about 10 minutes. half the time they couldn't even play with Lewis, they only work on the same pitch when Hogg is playing in a back 3. Schofield seems set on a 4-5-1 but we'll see. |
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