mrg1
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Post by mrg1 on Jul 30, 2022 9:26:20 GMT 1
The thing about picking out young players in defence and saying they aren't up to it imho isn't the focus. Ruffles is 19/20 and just starting his career. Whether he goes on to have a decent one or not he and REG don't need singling out. Id definitely play a Japanese international at LB instead of him for now but he deserves chances to get up to the level of the mens game. The real issue of course is midfield. Town are now completely relaint on tino and rudiani coming good rapid fire and they are attacking mids who will lots of technical coaching to bridge the gaps in between the back and the middle. Koromas hammys and possibly confidence are gone and Rhodes needs to start. But then the problem is town dont have 2 players for every position any more. One day the chairman is going to need to look in the mirror and face the fact that no matter what he has to say about money and loans, he created this. It's his response ability that is going to sort this out. And im prepared to give time time but DS is a coach by the looks and not a head coach or manager. Quick turnaround, emotional hangover, buying good but not necessarily direct replacements, losing coaches and fitness look like issues and by the end of October we'll nearly be a quarter of the way through the campaign. Ruffles is 28! Ruffles is 28. Fuck off 🤣 OMFG, I genuinely thought he was from the under 21s. Ok, well in that case, maybe let's play the Japanese tough looking motherfucker, cos he ain't it. |
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Post by benhomly on Jul 30, 2022 9:26:20 GMT 1
Where’s ‘prepare’ when you need him? Maybe he’s been trying to change his username since 10 o’clock last night. If I were him I’d go for ‘fuckmethatwasshocking’
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jul 30, 2022 9:27:39 GMT 1
Still shocked at the ‘performance’ and stats.
30% possession at home.
261 passes attempted over 90 minutes.
67% pass success rate.
That means, on average, we managed 2 passes then gave it away attempting a third across the whole match.
That’s non-league team vs a big club in the FA Cup stuff. Utterly ridiculous.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 30, 2022 9:28:34 GMT 1
Where’s ‘prepare’ when you need him? Maybe he’s been trying to change his username since 10 o’clock last night. If I were him I’d go for ‘fuckmethatwasshocking’ We hvnt a clue |
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Post by artysid on Jul 30, 2022 9:30:22 GMT 1
OK It's the cold light of day.
We lost to a very good team. I can't imagine there'll be too many teams that play better than them visit us this season.
We lost in part because we weren't bold enough to play Tangerine & Rudoni from the start. Had we done so it's possible they might not have got the dominant grip on the game they did. That said, despite a 15 minute spell following their introduction they took back control and ended the game back on top.
Didn't pose any threat in attack but only conceded one goal and a sloppy one at that. Goalie nearly gifted them a goal with delayed clearance.
Too many players didn't perform -Russell, Koroma, & Holmes in particular
Disappointing, but not the end of the World.
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Jul 30, 2022 9:33:39 GMT 1
REG wasn’t the problem like I said earlier… I can't remember saying he was..... Accommodating a player because of his preferred foot and not ability is the issue |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Jul 30, 2022 9:36:39 GMT 1
The thing about picking out young players in defence and saying they aren't up to it imho isn't the focus. Ruffles is 19/20 and just starting his career. Whether he goes on to have a decent one or not he and REG don't need singling out. Id definitely play a Japanese international at LB instead of him for now but he deserves chances to get up to the level of the mens game. The real issue of course is midfield. Town are now completely relaint on tino and rudiani coming good rapid fire and they are attacking mids who will lots of technical coaching to bridge the gaps in between the back and the middle. Koromas hammys and possibly confidence are gone and Rhodes needs to start. But then the problem is town dont have 2 players for every position any more. One day the chairman is going to need to look in the mirror and face the fact that no matter what he has to say about money and loans, he created this. It's his response ability that is going to sort this out. And im prepared to give time time but DS is a coach by the looks and not a head coach or manager. Quick turnaround, emotional hangover, buying good but not necessarily direct replacements, losing coaches and fitness look like issues and by the end of October we'll nearly be a quarter of the way through the campaign. Now that you know Ruffels is 28, does that sway your opinion at all? He's not a starter whatsoever. |
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Post by leroy212 on Jul 30, 2022 9:39:09 GMT 1
its ok saying we need a new forward, but the bigger problem is getting the ball forward, for someone to try and score
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 30, 2022 9:42:43 GMT 1
REG wasn’t the problem like I said earlier… I can't remember saying he was..... Accommodating a player because of his preferred foot and not ability is the issue But it wasn’t last night? The point I raised initially was based on centre backs, you’ve replied to that, we didn’t lose the game last night because of either Lees or REG it was due to other areas of the pitch that Burnley exposed to which were clear to see and I don’t need to go into. |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Jul 30, 2022 9:43:49 GMT 1
Our pre season is just starting now, I think 4 more games we might be fit.
A reason why you need a proper pre season, playing teams better than you, physically, tactically and a team bonding somewhere adventure training etc.
We played Tranmere and Bolton in the same day and a few B Team games with no idea on starting 11 in any of them.
Players looked like they didn't know each other last night, how to pass or how to even hit the target.
We do need a striker and if we don't get one before the end of the window, I highly doubt we will see many goals.
I'd give it 6 or 7 games, hopefully they look a team then. If the stats on them are like last night and we haven't won, I'd be looking urgently for someone. I really doubt we will however, might be the persistence with the manager as was with Carlos at first. Only this time, we could go down if we don't massively improve on last night
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Post by willo on Jul 30, 2022 9:52:41 GMT 1
Yea, koroma has probably lost it since his bad injury, combined with all that's gone on at the club. Good technical coaches or absolute warriors are needed at this level in the dugout. It's early but town need to sort the back 4 and the midfield and attack options pretty quickly. Koroma and Holmes were bit part players last year under a great coach. What chances DW back by the end of October? This did cross my mind not a moment ago. Bizarrely enough, mine too. Spooky. |
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mrg1
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Post by mrg1 on Jul 30, 2022 9:52:43 GMT 1
The thing about picking out young players in defence and saying they aren't up to it imho isn't the focus. Ruffles is 19/20 and just starting his career. Whether he goes on to have a decent one or not he and REG don't need singling out. Id definitely play a Japanese international at LB instead of him for now but he deserves chances to get up to the level of the mens game. The real issue of course is midfield. Town are now completely relaint on tino and rudiani coming good rapid fire and they are attacking mids who will lots of technical coaching to bridge the gaps in between the back and the middle. Koromas hammys and possibly confidence are gone and Rhodes needs to start. But then the problem is town dont have 2 players for every position any more. One day the chairman is going to need to look in the mirror and face the fact that no matter what he has to say about money and loans, he created this. It's his response ability that is going to sort this out. And im prepared to give time time but DS is a coach by the looks and not a head coach or manager. Quick turnaround, emotional hangover, buying good but not necessarily direct replacements, losing coaches and fitness look like issues and by the end of October we'll nearly be a quarter of the way through the campaign. Now that you know Ruffels is 28, does that sway your opinion at all? He's not a starter whatsoever. 🤣 yeah, as per my other post, lets have the tough looking Japanese morherfucker in defence next week please. |
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Post by 4 pts on Jul 30, 2022 9:55:52 GMT 1
Yes Danny Schofield s body language was really poor ,whether trying to look unruffled or not he really looked uncomfortable ,the whole lack of a proper pre season schedule was plain to see ,we didn’t look fit whereas Burnley looked super fit and more importantly organised Kompany was in Schofield's technical area a lot last night and he never said a word to him about it, never told him to fook off back inside his own. Maybe he was overawed but he just looked lost and perhaps wondering how he'd ended up with the job. I won't name names but I was talking to a player on Wednesday for about 10 mins. I asked him what DS was like and I quote "I really like the guy but I wish he was harder on us, a bit more aggressive" I might be reading too much into that comment and maybe that is just Schofields way of doing things, but if players are noticing him being too nice - are they taking anything he says onboard. Early days but just my opinion, I think DH appointed the wrong guy, Narcis would have been my choice. |
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Post by drumriggend on Jul 30, 2022 9:56:51 GMT 1
Felt a bit like the Fulham drubbing at home last season..
We were shockingly bad..
Selection and performance awful..
On the bright side ds now knows we can’t play that midfield again..
And koroma is shite..
So hopefully we will improve 🤞
Burnley we’re excellent by the way 👏👏
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Jul 30, 2022 10:00:29 GMT 1
Kompany was in Schofield's technical area a lot last night and he never said a word to him about it, never told him to fook off back inside his own. Maybe he was overawed but he just looked lost and perhaps wondering how he'd ended up with the job. I won't name names but I was talking to a player on Wednesday for about 10 mins. I asked him what DS was like and I quote "I really like the guy but I wish he was harder on us, a bit more aggressive" I might be reading too much into that comment and maybe that is just Schofields way of doing things, but if players are noticing him being too nice - are they taking anything he says onboard. Early days but just my opinion, I think DH appointed the wrong guy, Narcis would have been my choice. To be fair, DS won't have a clue what to be like. He's probably being himself. He's learning as he's going, so he will develop some strictness over time. He won't know how to be yet, won't want to ruin things by going in tough straight away maybe. You see in daily life and coaching, promote someone and they have a power trip, become a different person. It'll come with time and I suppose its better than straight away. He would lose the dressing room |
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Post by digs on Jul 30, 2022 10:04:34 GMT 1
The Burnley players really put a shift in, and looked like they wanted to impress and respected their ex Premier league player of the season, Belgian international,4 time premier league winning,2 times FA cup winner,4 time Efl Cup winning man in charge,where as our players looked like they didn't care or weren't inspired that our manager used to play for Mickleover sports and Bradford P A
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jul 30, 2022 10:09:01 GMT 1
Was it Hoyle who said earlier LETS PROVE CARLOS WRONG and the players have made him to look a right twat
Not one shot on target in 90 plus minutes at home is a very worrying stat to add to the lack of possession .
Every player looked unfit and amazing how they seriously struggled to put two passes together.
Hoyle needs to bring in a few quality replacement players sooner than later and give these fans exactly what they have paid for
NOT IMPRESSED
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Post by bogart on Jul 30, 2022 10:10:56 GMT 1
SCHOFIELD: DISSAPOINTING RESULT
Need to get someobne who can spell.
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Jul 30, 2022 10:11:45 GMT 1
The Burnley players really put a shift in, and looked like they wanted to impress and respected their ex Premier league player of the season, Belgian international,4 time premier league winning,2 times FA cup winner,4 time Efl Cup winning man in charge,where as our players looked like they didn't care or weren't inspired that our manager used to play for Mickleover sports and Bradford P A You can't compare like that. The best managers tend to not have had a career of note. Mourinho for instance. I'm definitely not comparing him, but that logic of who hes played for is bollocks. They should respect the man in charge regardless and certainly one that played here for 10 years |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 30, 2022 10:15:14 GMT 1
SCHOFIELD: DISSAPOINTING RESULT Need to get someobne who can spell. Indeed If you want to join the police you need to learn to put your helmet on the right way round |
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buckers
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Post by buckers on Jul 30, 2022 10:32:15 GMT 1
For the brum game I’d go back to what we were doing last season.
GK - Nicholls
RWB - Thomas
RCB - Turton
CB - Lees
LCB - Nakayama
LWB - Jackson
CM - Russell
CM - Hogg
CM - Holmes (Would preferably be Kasuma)
AM - Tino
CF - Rhodes
Don’t get me wrong this formation obviously worked better with O’Brien and toffolo in it. Why it’s been binned for a formation that doesn’t suit our defence or midfield is a mystery.
It has Its faults. we still look lightweight up top, but my hope would be we don’t get over run all over the park like last night.
Just my opinion anyway.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 30, 2022 10:32:16 GMT 1
SCHOFIELD: DISSAPOINTING RESULT Need to get someobne who can spell. Indeed If you want to join the police you need to learn to put your helmet on the right way round at the Big Red End. Always makes sense to have your helmet in the correct position. |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Jul 30, 2022 10:35:02 GMT 1
Rudoni has a very small face doesn't he An all or nothing player? |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Jul 30, 2022 10:36:24 GMT 1
Am guessing/hoping that will be last time we see that starting line up anyway.
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Jul 30, 2022 10:37:14 GMT 1
For the brum game I’d go back to what we were doing last season. GK - Nicholls RWB - Thomas RCB - Turton CB - Lees LCB - Nakayama LWB - Jackson CM - Russell CM - Hogg CM - Holmes (Would preferably be Kasuma) AM - Tino CF - Rhodes Don’t get me wrong this formation obviously worked better with O’Brien and toffolo in it. Why it’s been binned for a formation that doesn’t suit our defence or midfield is a mystery. It has Its faults. we still look lightweight up top, but my hope would be we don’t get over run all over the park like last night. Just my opinion anyway. Rudoni for Holmes. |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on Jul 30, 2022 10:39:11 GMT 1
Talk about living up to your reputation. Kasumu was said to be both injury prone and a booking waiting to happen!
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buckers
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Post by buckers on Jul 30, 2022 10:41:10 GMT 1
For the brum game I’d go back to what we were doing last season. GK - Nicholls RWB - Thomas RCB - Turton CB - Lees LCB - Nakayama LWB - Jackson CM - Russell CM - Hogg CM - Holmes (Would preferably be Kasuma) AM - Tino CF - Rhodes Don’t get me wrong this formation obviously worked better with O’Brien and toffolo in it. Why it’s been binned for a formation that doesn’t suit our defence or midfield is a mystery. It has Its faults. we still look lightweight up top, but my hope would be we don’t get over run all over the park like last night. Just my opinion anyway. Rudoni for Holmes. Yeah but can he play centre mid? Don’t get me wrong if high wasn’t at Rotherham he’d be in front of Holmes. We need someone in midfield that can at least run. |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Jul 30, 2022 10:44:22 GMT 1
Yeah but can he play centre mid? Don’t get me wrong if high wasn’t at Rotherham he’d be in front of Holmes. We need someone in midfield that can at least run. He's a similar player but he's far more creative, looks bloody good and has a good touch and shot on him tbh. We would need at least one forward thinking player in midfield alongside Hogg and Russell, otherwise its stagnant and creativity would be absolutely nil 😅 |
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digs
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Post by digs on Jul 30, 2022 10:53:04 GMT 1
The Burnley players really put a shift in, and looked like they wanted to impress and respected their ex Premier league player of the season, Belgian international,4 time premier league winning,2 times FA cup winner,4 time Efl Cup winning man in charge,where as our players looked like they didn't care or weren't inspired that our manager used to play for Mickleover sports and Bradford P A You can't compare like that. The best managers tend to not have had a career of note. Mourinho for instance. I'm definitely not comparing him, but that logic of who hes played for is bollocks. They should respect the man in charge regardless and certainly one that played here for 10 years Mourinho started his managerial career as Barcelona assistant working with Sir Bobby Robson and Van Gaal,so you definitely can't compare them |
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Post by harris on Jul 30, 2022 10:53:54 GMT 1
All in all I think we missed Pipa, Colwill, Toff, LOB and Carlos last night 😁
To put out a team with no new signings after we’ve been told our plan is to replace outgoings with similar players is crazy. That team last night was our FA cup team last season, the team that we play to rest our decent players. Yet DH is still expecting minimum play offs…
Ok we’ll see the likes of Tino and Rudoni more once they bed in but Christ alive, how did DS think that was going to end in a positive result last night?!
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