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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 5, 2022 22:00:32 GMT 1
2 games gone, 2 defeats, 2 games where we performed for 20 mins in each, 2 games where there was little "terrier spirit" on show.
Need to improve & quickly, I feel Burnley were decent, I doubt very much Birmingham are.
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 5, 2022 22:00:34 GMT 1
I therefore ask that you desist from jumping on others comments which they have every right to do in order to belittle them. Crawling through old posts to quote comments etc. If you fo that I won't say another dickyboo...deal? on a match thread. Very strange . At half time I said to someone screaming "fuck off Hoyle " that Hoyle want on the pitch . Those players are more than capable of producing better than that first half shitshow . Hoyle wasn't playing centre back . But if you perceive that as me "jumping on others posts " I suggest you get a life Bullying used to be when you got your dinner money pinched, or a good beating on the way home from school... most nights. Now it's hurty words on a football forum by someone who you don't even know. Get a grip you lot! |
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Post by Big Ern on Aug 5, 2022 22:00:45 GMT 1
I therefore ask that you desist from jumping on others comments which they have every right to do in order to belittle them. Crawling through old posts to quote comments etc. If you fo that I won't say another dickyboo...deal? That's 5 bullying posts on a match thread. Very strange . At half time I said to someone screaming "fuck off Hoyle " that Hoyle want on the pitch . Those players are more than capable of producing better than that first half shitshow . Hoyle wasn't playing centre back . But if you perceive that as me "jumping on others posts " I suggest you get a life Again, there was no abuse. If you wanted to be an admin you should have applied. You are not a vigilante, allow others to vent their spleen without you acting all high and mighty and you might not get called out for it. Live and let live. |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Aug 5, 2022 22:01:23 GMT 1
Forest got one point in the first seven games. Town can turn this around, seen glimpses of some good football in this second half and the same in Burnley to suggest so. That being said what installed change at forest was a new manager and I fear the same is needed here. Early days still but DS feels a bit out of his depth, the team has started slow both games and I’m not convinced he knows his best 11 yet. Not the ideal pre season for sure but we can’t sacrifice the first five games to catch up on preparation. Town still a couple of bodies short imo, need a couple of athletic brutes who are just going to run all day. Don’t need any technique really, pass it off to the better ballers. I thought Kasumu was this type of player but sadly crocked after one game. We ain't got the money for a Steve Cooper who is quality. This is a Barnsley scenario right now |
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Post by andyeastleake on Aug 5, 2022 22:01:37 GMT 1
Dean is only in it for him. He bought a football club that he now can't afford. I don't think he can't afford it...just seems his heart isn't in it anymore. |
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Post by crux on Aug 5, 2022 22:02:15 GMT 1
Overall... It's going to take Rudoni and Anjorin a while to get up to speed, but both did OK second half. Some very poor touches from Sorba Thomas, but at least he got an assist. I thought REG and Turton played well. Russell, sugar or shite... not good when we haven't got the ball. I honestly don't know what to make of our left back... just had a brain fade and can't remember his name. It may need time for him to get used to the Championship. Good finish by Ward. Left back is an Effin' Russell 😉🤣 Ruffles |
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Post by ldotm on Aug 5, 2022 22:02:34 GMT 1
Overall... It's going to take Rudoni and Anjorin a while to get up to speed, but both did OK second half. Some very poor touches from Sorba Thomas, but at least he got an assist. I thought REG and Turton played well. Russell, sugar or shite... not good when we haven't got the ball. I honestly don't know what to make of our left back... just had a brain fade and can't remember his name. It may need time for him to get used to the Championship. Good finish by Ward. REG PLAYED WELL ?He was awful. Gave the ball away. Weak in the physical battle.. Jesus.... I usually think you chat absolute garbage Duncan but I agree, REG looked completely lost tonight. Positionally very poor, slow and physically weak. |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Aug 5, 2022 22:03:33 GMT 1
Forest got one point in the first seven games. Town can turn this around, seen glimpses of some good football in this second half and the same in Burnley to suggest so. That being said what installed change at forest was a new manager and I fear the same is needed here. Early days still but DS feels a bit out of his depth, the team has started slow both games and I’m not convinced he knows his best 11 yet. Not the ideal pre season for sure but we can’t sacrifice the first five games to catch up on preparation. Town still a couple of bodies short imo, need a couple of athletic brutes who are just going to run all day. Don’t need any technique really, pass it off to the better ballers. I thought Kasumu was this type of player but sadly crocked after one game. When Carlos went and people were calling for Wagner and Buhler I wasn’t that keen as the past is the past. However, the lift them guys would bring would be unreal to us, the players and the staff. Something needs to happen, love Schofield but the players won’t run through brick walls for him. Maybe try again in a couple of years. For now we need to put the brass (if there is any) towards a manager that will get us playing out of our skin again. |
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Post by Moooooy on Aug 5, 2022 22:04:01 GMT 1
Much improved 2nd half and made a game of it, but we won’t win many games this season if we’re not going to turn up for 45 minutes. Still big improvements needed across the whole team if we’re going to be competitive.
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Post by Siehe grün on Aug 5, 2022 22:04:13 GMT 1
Ted, I don’t come on here very often but every time I do you seem to me to be calling people out for abuse but you don’t seem to acknowledge that your input seems to almost encourage some form of response. In my view you need to put up, or shut up, and stop acting like your voice is the one of reason/the font of all knowledge and no others have valid opinions. Please put a lid on it. Sorry this is a match thread . Why are you personally abusing me ? Which post did I write tonight which you have found so bad ? Actually please don't answer that as this nonsense is depressing enough Please look at and interpret the words, Ted, there’s no abuse within my message. This is typical of the faux outrage I seem to see from you every time I bother coming on here (and you’re the main protagonist for my absence). It’s not one post tonight, it’s an accumulation of my opinion on the majority of posts you put up and that I see. Of course, I accept may be the one in the wrong here as the majority of your posts may be coherent, balanced and not so provocative. But my view, as a relatively occasion visitor (see above for the reason), it’s not. I’ll happily be called out by more frequent visitors if that’s the case. You might see it as jumping on the bandwagon but your passive aggressive stance appears to wind people up. In a pub I’d just ignore you and move on to the next but, on a Town focused discussion board, you’re pretty hard to miss. And I suspect that’s the way you like it. |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Aug 5, 2022 22:05:01 GMT 1
Ruffels is shite and he's not being judged off the two gamea, he was shit last season too. Big weakness you'd capitalise on being the opposition.
Sorba has turned into JK MK2
Russell needs to dye his hair back
Grant needs to be in the squad at least for the next league game as a joker card. Some of these have run their course. Same shit different game
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Post by Moooooy on Aug 5, 2022 22:08:12 GMT 1
Dean is only in it for him. He bought a football club that he now can't afford. I don't think he can't afford it...just seems his heart isn't in it anymore. That’s the main thing I took away from the Radio Leeds interview. He’s not the owner he was when he first took over. He’s a lot colder now and his focus is purely on reducing the contribution he has to make to keep the club afloat. |
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Post by wigster on Aug 5, 2022 22:08:16 GMT 1
Let's be realistic - we were played off the park in the first half by a very very poor Birmingham
For the second half Birmingham sat back and gave us space so we were able to go forward more. Even so Birmingham could easily scored again.
We were beaten tonight by a very poor Birmingham team that we very comfortably beat last season. I'll be amazed if Brum aren't fighting relegation again .
I expect that Danny S will excuse tonight by just referring to the second half - that would be wrong .
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Aug 5, 2022 22:08:45 GMT 1
Sounds like DS gave them a bollocking at half time.
We haven’t got over losing at Wembley. Players don’t look motivated and have seen our best players and then head coach leave.
Not a good atmosphere at the moment and I hope he tore into them.
A couple of wins are desperately needed to shake off the last few months.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Aug 5, 2022 22:09:00 GMT 1
The continuity bollocks is just that…it’s cost cutting bollocks, appointing a Yes man to be a puppet to Hoyle and Bromby. That’s back to back absolute woeful performances. Please let’s not have a go at Leigh Bromby , he’s not to blame for anything and it was his recruitment last season that got us to 3rd Leigh Bromby hahahahaha top of the arse lickers and believe me at HTAFC there was many in my 16 years at the club |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2022 22:10:35 GMT 1
People acting like that was ok? We just lost to a relegation contender that was a 6 pointer and an absolute pathetic performance, god forbid who wanted Schofield, another load of BS coming from the club, nothing against him personally but he’s miles off it.
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Post by goodbet on Aug 5, 2022 22:11:47 GMT 1
We lost the second game and it was a very poor first half and a slightly better second half, similar to last week.
Burnley were praised as possible champions last week, I don't think that Birmingham are and we did not look any better.
I always thought that without LOB and Toff we would loose the drive and energy from the team and so far it seems to be the case.
The introduction of 5 subs seems to be wasted on out new coach, it should allow early changes to be made but we left them late and when they were made they did not improve matters.
Leaving the 4th sub for the last minute was a waste of time.
It was their fist win since the 3rd of April!
What next? Hopefully not a Barnsley, but once confidence is lost it can be a downhill spiral.
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Post by HTAFC Darren on Aug 5, 2022 22:11:54 GMT 1
Thought rudoni was solid today, rarely gave the ball away and progressed well. In the second half at least, tino surprised me with his defensive capabilities and pressing as he won the ball a lot. Got quite a physical team with these lads.
Got faith in this team based on our second halves, just need to get the team going for the full 90
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Post by araucaria on Aug 5, 2022 22:12:03 GMT 1
Don’t panic.. We’ve only lost 2games all season.. ....and only 4 defeats in the last 29 league games. 🍻 |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 5, 2022 22:12:15 GMT 1
Tino looks like he would flourish in a more attacking team, makes the most of what little he is given. Rudoni was a passenger first half but he showed he's a talented player in the second and if he can get him on the ball more we might create things. Hogg stood up for town today and was trying to get the ball ticking and for once he rarely gave the ball away in our half. Edmonds green and turton were consistent Strange how different people watch the same game and see different things. Personally I thought Rudoni was one of only 2 outfield players (the other being Tino) to come out of the first half with any credit. Turton had a game of 2 halves. Shite first half & looked like the player we were told we were getting by the pessimistic crowd - absolute powder puff for their 2nd and Placheta had him on toast (although TBF, I think Placheta will have a few fullbacks on toast - I really rate him). 2nd half, looked a completely different player. REG was consistently terrible throughout the game IMO. I had hoped his spell of regular first team football in a promoted side would have improved him but Christ on a bike he looks dreadful. If Rotherham want him I'll drive him there myself. Yes, even with today's petrol prices. Either Boyle or Nakayama have to come into the side now, surely? Agreed on the rest though. Tino looked furious when the camera panned on to himsat on the bench. Understandably. Lee's is giving the ball away when pressed a lot more than he did last year. Ruffells isn't an adequate replacement for toffolo Russell is a luxury player but playing him on his own in midfield didn't help him at all Lees is a LCB only in an emergency & this game showed why. But him in the centre or right of a 3, or the RCB of a 2 and he's so much more comfortable. Of course bacuna was gonna try hard and run up and down all game today, why couldn't he do that for us? So frustrating He did. Sometimes. I suspect it's the same situation at Birmingham, and he'll be utter fucking dog sperm until the next time he feels like turning up. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 5, 2022 22:12:44 GMT 1
We lack genuine pace, therefore the play has to be quicker, we did it once or twice and scored.
Has to be a ball into feet with a third man run, we are quite adept at it when we finally try it, instead of going back and across.
We have to move it quickly and support it because we cant run past anyone or play balls through or over brcause we cant catch them or outpace the opposition.
Defensively we look ok until we get just outside or inside our box, lesson has to be learned, dont back off too far and dont hang around there.
The number of times we were in out own box and a brum player had yards of space around him when the cross is over hit etc, what are we all doing back there if that happens.
Team attacks and defends better further up the pitch as a unit.
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Post by Drew Peacock on Aug 5, 2022 22:13:16 GMT 1
People acting like that was ok? We just lost to a relegation contender that was a 6 pointer and an absolute pathetic performance, god forbid who wanted Schofield, another load of BS coming from the club, nothing against him personally but he’s miles off it. People thought we were a relegation contender last season. We weren't. Just because people think Birmingham are a relegation contender doesn't mean they are. |
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Post by impact on Aug 5, 2022 22:14:05 GMT 1
We played worse during games last year but got points because of set pieces.
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Post by Siehe grün on Aug 5, 2022 22:14:38 GMT 1
Forest got one point in the first seven games. Town can turn this around, seen glimpses of some good football in this second half and the same in Burnley to suggest so. That being said what installed change at forest was a new manager and I fear the same is needed here. Early days still but DS feels a bit out of his depth, the team has started slow both games and I’m not convinced he knows his best 11 yet. Not the ideal pre season for sure but we can’t sacrifice the first five games to catch up on preparation. Town still a couple of bodies short imo, need a couple of athletic brutes who are just going to run all day. Don’t need any technique really, pass it off to the better ballers. I thought Kasumu was this type of player but sadly crocked after one game. When Carlos went and people were calling for Wagner and Buhler I wasn’t that keen as the past is the past. However, the lift them guys would bring would be unreal to us, the players and the staff. Something needs to happen, love Schofield but the players won’t run through brick walls for him. Maybe try again in a couple of years. For now we need to put the brass (if there is any) towards a manager that will get us playing out of our skin again. I’d love Wagner back but to suggest the players would get a lift might be wide of the mark. How many players do we have left that served under Wagner - is it only Hogg? The feel good factor that we had under DW in the promotion season and the first year of the PL is well gone. |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 5, 2022 22:15:07 GMT 1
The first half was disjointed one paces and utterly dreadful. Yes we had a chance but that wasn't good enough.
The 2nd half improved for around 15-20 minutes, much like last week, with us scoring a very good goal, but it wasn't sustained.
Our ball retention is poor, our distance between each other is too far apart, consequently our passing is inconsistent. Going forward the midfield is disjointed and it's easy to sit in a shape deep but we lose the ball as quickly as we win it back.
Overall we need a tempo and pattern everyone is comfortable with, currently we have individuals not a coherent team.
Spirit and belief is lacking at the moment and that is contributing to what we see on the pitch. I can forgive the players having a dip in form, confidence and belief. After the past 3 months that isn't surprising really. The truth is the balance of the team is unsettled at the moment and we need to find a way to win games of football. The worst case is we slip into a negative spiral and that can be difficult to break out from.
The problem is the shadows of last season loom large and that could be the biggest problem going forward.
We either need reinforcements, and quality ones, or to find a way to win a couple of games.
Too early to panic but early enough to openly recognise that there is much more to be done.
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Post by Scott Chegg on Aug 5, 2022 22:16:09 GMT 1
You're bullying me . I won't report it as you did . But I don't like it and I ask you to desist What do you get out of this inane bollocks. Waaaa they're bullying me. No it's people calling you out on your outright bullshit of persistently winding people up the holding up the whoa is me plaque. Absolutely pathetic. Steady, boy. |
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Post by Macduff on Aug 5, 2022 22:16:16 GMT 1
Not difficult for the second half to be better than the first. One (of the few) things we lack is exactly what O'Brien gave us last season, and what the Florists paid for. I keep thinking back to the ladies final. We (imo) dont have a player capable of seeing and executing the pass, or one capable of the take or finish for Englands first goal. In that respect you certainly cant compare that team to our men.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 5, 2022 22:16:47 GMT 1
Tino looks like he would flourish in a more attacking team, makes the most of what little he is given. Rudoni was a passenger first half but he showed he's a talented player in the second and if he can get him on the ball more we might create things. Hogg stood up for town today and was trying to get the ball ticking and for once he rarely gave the ball away in our half. Edmonds green and turton were consistent Lee's is giving the ball away when pressed a lot more than he did last year. Ruffells isn't an adequate replacement for toffolo Russell is a luxury player but playing him on his own in midfield didn't help him at all Thomas looks a shadow of the player he was last year, I hope it's just a bit of bad form. Ward ran hard but didn't get the opportunity to do much but took his goal well. Nicholls was typical Lee Nicholls, maybe could of done better for the 2nd goal but if it wasn't for him we would of been beat by a couple more. Of course bacuna was gonna try hard and run up and down all game today, why couldn't he do that for us? So frustrating I honestly haven't seen anything yet to justify why Edmonds-Green seems to be so highly thought of. He looks slow and his passing is pretty poor. His defending was ok bar swiping at the ball and missing it a couple of times. Crichlow looks a better prospect from what I've seen of both. Must admit, I was quite excited to have him back. A lot of people seem to rate him & he had glowing reports from his spell at Rotherham. Maybe he's filled out & become the great Centre Half that I keep hearing he was destined to be. I must be missing something because from where I'm sat he looks shite. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Aug 5, 2022 22:17:08 GMT 1
We played worse during games last year but got points because of set pieces. No, we absolutely didn't. |
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Post by halifaxterrier9 on Aug 5, 2022 22:18:02 GMT 1
Thought rudoni was solid today, rarely gave the ball away and progressed well. In the second half at least, tino surprised me with his defensive capabilities and pressing as he won the ball a lot. Got quite a physical team with these lads. Got faith in this team based on our second halves, just need to get the team going for the full 90 Massive faith with these, with a proper manager to boot em up the arse. They're good enough just tactics all over and turn it on too late. Dean needs to sign a proper manger or face losing alot of money and credibility now. We get relegated we are fucked, cos 75% of these won't be here |
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