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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 14, 2022 17:13:02 GMT 1
Would actually grab a draw in this one today given our start... The old heart strings as always say a win - the old hope DNA in me says draw - but the old head says loss sadly - there again this is Town so who knows... Prediction = Huddersfield Town 1 v Stoke City 2... Dearly hope that score prediction turns out the other way round though ! Well how happy I am today that the old heartstrings wishes came true to the fore - That was a vital vital win and I’m delighted for Danny Scholfield and the Lads and my fellow Terriers and Terrieresse’s as well as myself and let’s enjoy the moment as it won’t be long till we rock up at Carrow Road to face Norwich City... Did we carry a little luck yesterday - perhaps yes we did but I’ll take it as we’ll have plenty games where it’ll work against us... Lee Nicholls with heroics once again for Town - a nice goal by Nakayama and a good time to score it, a nice finish by Danny Ward and very thoughtful and unselfish work by Duane Holmes for Jordan to roll the ball into the net and secure the three points ! Watching the highlights today even with the self inflicted hangover from hell was very enjoyable and well done Danny Scholfield and the team and Thank You for the joy of the win and ma excuse to party all evening and night with it ! |
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Post by Niggled on Aug 14, 2022 17:22:07 GMT 1
It was Dwayne who looked Miles offside to me. Not seen it again though Certainly looked it in real time! I've seen it back since and he was level. I've seen it back too , he was miles off . And the one they had disallowed was on side . Fine margins but nice to benefit. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 14, 2022 17:25:30 GMT 1
In Far bozer Pushed after lockin pure steemin over moonm for Danney Scoldfeeld .......... Love Hudey Town for ever In fae boozer pished after lock in - pure steaming and over the moon for Danny Scholfield......... Love Huddy Town for ever ! Oh Jesus what a bloody drunken embarrassment of a post - I’ve had to correct it to what it probably should’ve been to clear ma red face after reading that it’s not just a red face with booze I’ve got today ! A very good example of the sense of keeping clear of iPads when out on the liquor for an all day and night session... Going fishing tonight and taking some old Huddersfield Town programmes to read in between rests from casting - so if I do post anything tonight it should be bloody sensible thankfully !!!!! |
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 14, 2022 17:27:29 GMT 1
Certainly looked it in real time! I've seen it back since and he was level. I've seen it back too , he was miles off . And the one they had disallowed was on side . Fine margins but nice to benefit. Bollox mate. Set playback speed to 0.25 and go to 1:57. |
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Post by Niggled on Aug 14, 2022 17:48:27 GMT 1
Cheers for that I didn't know I could slow it down , and it's a lot closer than I thought. There is no way the linesman would know for sure either. I've watched it 4 times now frame by frame . I wouldn't bet money on it that's for sure .
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Post by Orinoco on Aug 14, 2022 18:47:37 GMT 1
Onto next game, won this 1, deservedly also, just take each game as it comes.
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 14, 2022 18:50:19 GMT 1
Cheers for that I didn't know I could slow it down , and it's a lot closer than I thought. There is no way the linesman would know for sure either. I've watched it 4 times now frame by frame . I wouldn't bet money on it that's for sure . It’s onside, doesn’t look it in real time though. |
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Post by King Curtis on Aug 14, 2022 19:11:53 GMT 1
Cheers for that I didn't know I could slow it down , and it's a lot closer than I thought. There is no way the linesman would know for sure either. I've watched it 4 times now frame by frame . I wouldn't bet money on it that's for sure . Bit different to "Miles off"  |
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Post by Niggled on Aug 14, 2022 21:28:13 GMT 1
Cheers for that I didn't know I could slow it down , and it's a lot closer than I thought. There is no way the linesman would know for sure either. I've watched it 4 times now frame by frame . I wouldn't bet money on it that's for sure . Bit different to "Miles off" Yes it's not miles off , but I think it's off. Glad it's gone our way . A!so Theirs is on and it was disallowed. If the linos were on opposite sides we'd be crying today |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 14, 2022 21:37:48 GMT 1
Certainly looked it in real time! I've seen it back since and he was level. I've seen it back too , he was miles off . And the one they had disallowed was on side . Fine margins but nice to benefit. It looks that way to me. I think we would have hung on anyway. However if the Gayle goal had stood we would have lost 100 per cent certain. |
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Post by evidentlychickentown on Aug 14, 2022 21:41:27 GMT 1
First of all congratulations to Danny and the team for bringing about such an improvement. I was critical after the Preston game because we had learnt nothing from the way Burnley tore us apart especially down the left wing, and to me that didn’t bode well for a new management team. However, lessons clearly have now been learnt and a new formation and team selection made us look like a completely different team. I was watching Danny just after the 3rd goal went in and they all nearly squeezed themselves to death - lovely to see that joy and you can only imagine the relief after all the criticism (I confess, some from me). Anyway I won’t add to the comments on individual performances because I agree with previous posters (although a surprising number from those not at the game!). The main point I want to comment on is the performance of Donahue. A previous poster reminded me it was his decision in last seasons game against West Brom, where we were dominating and in the lead, when he awarded a penalty against Thomas for a waist high boot even though Mowatt stooped to head the ball against his foot - no contact was made, it was outside the box, and yet the clown gave one of the worst decisions I think I’ve ever seen - a decision that ultimately cost us the game. Yesterday, was another awful, awful, performance from him. When you watch Ruffels, he has his back to the Stoke player coming in behind him, he swivels to clear the ball (yes his boot was waist high) and at the same time the Stoke player stoops to head the ball. He then falls over and Donahue walks in clearly to have a word with him and he starts protesting thinking he is going to be booked for diving. After 10-15 seconds he then suddenly points to the spot even though Stoke players were not appealing for a penalty. If Ruffels had let that ball land and lost possession, which would have been likely, he would have been mullered by fans and his manager. This ref is a buffoon. A later incident was equally baffling - a Town player was fouled but quite rightly he signalled he was playing advantage. The ball came to Thomas who sprinted clear on the touch line and when about to launch an attack, Donahue whistles and pulls play back so we can take the free kick. Completely inept, he hardly got one decision right all afternoon. God knows what Town have done to this bloke - perhaps someone from Huddersfield has been shagging his wife ? The extended highlights show a really good angle of the penalty. I was able to freeze frame it, from a camera at pitch level, I could see the top of the ball over the shoulder of Lees who was closer to camera. The ball was shoulder height. It was a penalty. The other decision was brought up by Oggy, and I agree with him, Sorba was isolated and surrounded by Stoke players, he was going nowhere and Oggy said exactly that. Well Thomas clearly disagreed as he went ballistic and the incident was adjacent to my seat and I respectfully disagree but there you go, the game is about opinions and ours differ. Equally don’t agree on the penalty having watched the IFollow highlights several times but c’est la vie it’s all water under the bridge now. Are you saying you thought Donahue reffed the match well just out of interest ? |
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Post by griffa on Aug 14, 2022 21:53:47 GMT 1
Matt Donohue performance was poor, probably refs all of his games, like that.Seen him referee 2 Town games & he's consistently average. Fortunately his performance didn't affect the result this time - UTT.
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Post by griffa on Aug 14, 2022 22:24:10 GMT 1
I've seen it back too , he was miles off . And the one they had disallowed was on side . Fine margins but nice to benefit. It looks that way to me. I think we would have hung on anyway. However if the Gayle goal had stood we would have lost 100 per cent certain. You win some, you lose some, frequently due to refereeing decisions, that drive me mad! Just enjoy the win, a small number of so called Town fans, enjoy dissecting refereeing decisions, they over enjoy the minutiae of the decisions, just enjoy the win please -UTT. |
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Post by incognito on Aug 14, 2022 23:29:56 GMT 1
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Post by stable on Aug 14, 2022 23:52:48 GMT 1
Looks onside to me: Definitely onside - The ball has already been released here and if you look at the stripe in the grass Holmes is still onside. It did look a mile off though. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 15, 2022 3:03:04 GMT 1
The extended highlights show a really good angle of the penalty. I was able to freeze frame it, from a camera at pitch level, I could see the top of the ball over the shoulder of Lees who was closer to camera. The ball was shoulder height. It was a penalty. The other decision was brought up by Oggy, and I agree with him, Sorba was isolated and surrounded by Stoke players, he was going nowhere and Oggy said exactly that. Well Thomas clearly disagreed as he went ballistic and the incident was adjacent to my seat and I respectfully disagree but there you go, the game is about opinions and ours differ. Equally don’t agree on the penalty having watched the IFollow highlights several times but c’est la vie it’s all water under the bridge now. Are you saying you thought Donahue reffed the match well just out of interest ? Thomas going ballistic… that’s a new one! He’s always petulant. But if you think his position was worth taking advantage of then yes it comes down to opinions and yes water under the bridge. As far as the refs performance, I’ll qualify that I’m usually harsh on refs and always look at penalties from the opposite side and ask would I be upset if that was given against us or not awarded to us. The performance was consistent with the level I see in sporting matches these days, which is a poor performance. But I expect a poor performance from every ref so it really was to me an average performance. TBF, we the fans, get the benefit of freeze framing replays and 20/20 hindsight, it’s a tough gig for refs in the modern world of technology. So back to his performance, thought it was average, thought the penalty decision was correct, thought he didn’t rush the decision which is a good thing if it results in the correct decision. There were no complaints from the players apart from Nichols. On the overall performance, thought he was ok, let a few things go, maybe lacked a bit of consistency, kept the game under control and because of that there was no flash points. I don’t think with team can have complaints and he didn’t effect the result. |
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Post by huddshroom on Aug 15, 2022 8:15:17 GMT 1
Looks onside to me: Flint's arse is playing him on |
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Post by turbo2 on Aug 15, 2022 8:22:52 GMT 1
I've seen it back too , he was miles off . And the one they had disallowed was on side . Fine margins but nice to benefit. Bollox mate. Set playback speed to 0.25 and go to 1:57. Nice one KC. Incredible how he looks miles off in real time but freeze frame and he’s probably a yard onside. |
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Post by upthetown on Aug 15, 2022 8:57:43 GMT 1
Yup… at the game we all thought he was miles offside, we were waiting for the flag. I think Holmes was waiting for it to. The Stoke defence certainly were.
But when I slowed the highlights right down I felt he was onside and it was a perfectly timed and weighted pass from Rudoni
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Post by calken on Aug 15, 2022 10:30:53 GMT 1
Cheers for that I didn't know I could slow it down , and it's a lot closer than I thought. There is no way the linesman would know for sure either. I've watched it 4 times now frame by frame . I wouldn't bet money on it that's for sure . That video was possibly recorded at 25 frames per second, the eye has been repeatedly demonstrated to respond to images displayed for 13 milliseconds measuring Joe Public, which puts an 'average' person's ability to observe at 75 frames per second. Trained individuals such as fighter pilots and professional e-gamers, have demonstrated response times much better, some in excess of 200 frames per second, or 5 milliseconds. Similarly, people in the crowd may have a visual response lower than 25 frames per second, or 40 milliseconds who have limited capacity to detect if the player was offside when the ball was played whilst watching the game live. A random search says that an average player can cover 7 metres per second. A recording at 25 frames per second means a player can move 28cm, just short of a foot, between the recording of each frame. That's more than enough to give the perception of a player being miles offside especially if the ball has to accelerate from the players contact between frames as well. Additionally, ball travelling at 60 km/h covers approximately 16 metres per second, or 64cm per recorded frame. (Would be good for someone to check my Maths!) For completeness, I would link to the research papers - but you can all use Google! |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 15, 2022 10:36:43 GMT 1
Cheers for that I didn't know I could slow it down , and it's a lot closer than I thought. There is no way the linesman would know for sure either. I've watched it 4 times now frame by frame . I wouldn't bet money on it that's for sure . That video was possibly recorded at 25 frames per second, the eye has been repeated demonstrated to respond to images displayed for 13 milliseconds measuring Joe Public, which puts an 'average' person's ability to observe at 75 frames per second. Trained individuals such as fighter pilots and professional e-gamers, have demonstrated response times much better. Similarly, people in the crowd may have a visual response lower than 25 frames per second, or 40 milliseconds who have limited capacity to detect if the player was offside when the ball was played. A random search says that an average player can cover 7 metres per second. A recording at 25 frames per second means a player can move 28cm, just short of a foot, between the recording of each frame. That's more than enough to give the perception of a player being miles offside especially if the ball has to accelerate from the players contact between frames as well. For completeness, I would link to the research papers - but you can all use Google! I think they’d be capturing the match content at faster than 25fps |
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Post by calken on Aug 15, 2022 10:47:04 GMT 1
I think they’d be capturing the match content at faster than 25fps Should have differentiated between recorded at and transferred at. Some feeds are intentionally reduced for transmission bandwidth reasons with TV still being the primary target. Though, I have seen live games on YouTube (BTSport) that were clearly 60fps. |
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Post by rphyorks on Aug 15, 2022 23:37:59 GMT 1
extended highlights, just in case we dont win again for a while.
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