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Post by Tinpot on Aug 11, 2022 9:12:18 GMT 1
Last season I was disappointed with a draw in this fixture.
Not only would I snatch a draw (deserved or otherwise) with both hands, I'd actually be happy with a loss but something we can hang our hats on. A decent performance. Or even a bang average performance. Just stop being utterly abject.
Sadly, unless something changes I'm in no doubt that we are going to get bummed in the gob a few times this season and I would not be at all surprised if this Saturday was the first absolute hiding of the season.
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Post by dezzly on Aug 11, 2022 9:15:12 GMT 1
Nicholls Reg Lees Yuta Thomas. Hogg Russell Ruffels Tino Rudoni Ward 3-4-2-1 on the ball then 5-3-2 off it Not 4-2-3-1(or 4-1-4-1) on the ball and 4-4-2 off it as we have been playing.Can still press high without leaving ourselves too open and too much space/gaps. Edit…if we had another option at left wing back I wouldn’t play ruffels,kasumu would come in for Hogg or Russel or could potentially drop tino or rudoni in alongside kasumu and push Thomas behind ward as one of the two.That would mean had to make decision between. Turton and spencer at wing back,turton not a wing back and spencer very inexperienced.difficult I don’t want Russell anywhere near the team. 4-3-3 Nicholls Turton REG. Lees. Nakayama Hogg. Anjorin. Rudoni Thomas. Rhodes. Grant Personally I wouldn’t play him either,but with kasumu been out I think he’s most natural in there and if we swap shape and play 3 at back defence can squeeze higher meaning he won’t have to cover as much ground.the huge gaps due to the high press have highlighted his lack of mobility hugely. |
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Post by durhamterrier on Aug 11, 2022 9:18:38 GMT 1
Last season I was disappointed with a draw in this fixture. Not only would I snatch a draw (deserved or otherwise) with both hands, I'd actually be happy with a loss but something we can hang our hats on. A decent performance. Or even a bang average performance. Just stop being utterly abject. Sadly, unless something changes I'm in no doubt that we are going to get bummed in the gob a few times this season and I would not be at all surprised if this Saturday was the first absolute hiding of the season. “Bummed in the gob” - not sure how it works but love the phrase |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 11, 2022 9:28:45 GMT 1
Is chadders51 one of the few that's voted for a Town win? Surely no Town fans who've been to any games thus far this season have voted for a win? No not voted. Surprised at the result though We are past masters at rolling over to teams who are on a bad run Think it’ll be very close. Believe me we are every bit as bad as you are. Unfortunately I’m on holiday in the lakes so won’t even get to see it on the box. Hopefully catch the highlights on ITV. ( if there are any highlights 😡) 17 have gone for a Town win and 7 have gone for a draw. I'm only surprised by 24 of the votes in that poll. If you can beat Blackpool you'll have no trouble against us. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 11, 2022 11:55:49 GMT 1
What concerns me most is how we've gone from being so tough to play against to being pushovers in defence. A particular issue is the space in front; we're too flat and don't pick up the pieces while allowing runners from midfield to get in the box. For years we've needed a midfielder who can play the Hogg role when Hogg isn't there; never more so than now, with Hogg becoming increasingly static as the years catch up with him. Realistically, I think this is his last season as a midfield regular at this level, moving towards being backup in the next couple of years. As a priority, we need to bring someone in now and I'd hope someone at the club has identified this after Tuesday's debacle.
On Saturday, we need to think about our shape and system. Don't leave gaps while supporting the man in possession. Koroma has had a stinker so far this season, I agree, but he's not been given any support when in possession which hasn't helped his decision-making. Get him closer to whoever is up front, with a full-back pushing on (and a midfielder covering them), and we might see more from him if we play with wingers. I wouldn't, but there we go.
What Preston did very well was stretch the play with quick switches of play in possession, exposing Spencer in particular. We need to learn from that.
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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Aug 11, 2022 12:22:53 GMT 1
Stoke are gonna pummel us
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Post by bobrobterrier on Aug 11, 2022 12:23:09 GMT 1
Koroma made 2 passes in 54 minutes vs Preston. And a 50% completion rate. That is insulting. That is honestly so so so bad
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Post by harris on Aug 11, 2022 12:46:50 GMT 1
Koroma made 2 passes in 54 minutes vs Preston. And a 50% completion rate. That is insulting. That is honestly so so so bad He did have a 100% ‘cut inside to shoot but it gets blocked’ ratio though, things like that don’t go unnoticed |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 11, 2022 13:19:13 GMT 1
I am going off for a fishing weekend so will miss the game, and all the drama that goes with it. UTT. town to win 2-0  You should check in with Chadders, see if you’re close by and can have a collective moan? 😁 The thought is nice, but I am going to Cedar Key in the gulf of Mexico. he's going to have to come to me. |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 11, 2022 13:22:25 GMT 1
This game for me is 100% about the attitude and performance.
Result right now is not the priority!
Let’s see some fight, some togetherness and some cohesion - without that the result won’t come regardless
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Post by Leporid on Aug 11, 2022 13:33:28 GMT 1
Koroma made 2 passes in 54 minutes vs Preston. And a 50% completion rate. That is insulting. That is honestly so so so bad Him just pottering about against Stoke will not be acceptable. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Aug 11, 2022 13:55:40 GMT 1
What concerns me most is how we've gone from being so tough to play against to being pushovers in defence. A particular issue is the space in front; we're too flat and don't pick up the pieces while allowing runners from midfield to get in the box. For years we've needed a midfielder who can play the Hogg role when Hogg isn't there; never more so than now, with Hogg becoming increasingly static as the years catch up with him. Realistically, I think this is his last season as a midfield regular at this level, moving towards being backup in the next couple of years. As a priority, we need to bring someone in now and I'd hope someone at the club has identified this after Tuesday's debacle. On Saturday, we need to think about our shape and system. Don't leave gaps while supporting the man in possession. Koroma has had a stinker so far this season, I agree, but he's not been given any support when in possession which hasn't helped his decision-making. Get him closer to whoever is up front, with a full-back pushing on (and a midfielder covering them), and we might see more from him if we play with wingers. I wouldn't, but there we go. What Preston did very well was stretch the play with quick switches of play in possession, exposing Spencer in particular. We need to learn from that. Don’t actually think Spencer will be playing in this game, or about 5/6 of the other squad players. |
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Post by drewden on Aug 11, 2022 13:58:49 GMT 1
Town 1 - 4 Stoke.
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 11, 2022 14:18:12 GMT 1
What concerns me most is how we've gone from being so tough to play against to being pushovers in defence. A particular issue is the space in front; we're too flat and don't pick up the pieces while allowing runners from midfield to get in the box. For years we've needed a midfielder who can play the Hogg role when Hogg isn't there; never more so than now, with Hogg becoming increasingly static as the years catch up with him. Realistically, I think this is his last season as a midfield regular at this level, moving towards being backup in the next couple of years. As a priority, we need to bring someone in now and I'd hope someone at the club has identified this after Tuesday's debacle. On Saturday, we need to think about our shape and system. Don't leave gaps while supporting the man in possession. Koroma has had a stinker so far this season, I agree, but he's not been given any support when in possession which hasn't helped his decision-making. Get him closer to whoever is up front, with a full-back pushing on (and a midfielder covering them), and we might see more from him if we play with wingers. I wouldn't, but there we go. What Preston did very well was stretch the play with quick switches of play in possession, exposing Spencer in particular. We need to learn from that. Don’t actually think Spencer will be playing in this game, or about 5/6 of the other squad players. Well, no. I was more talking systems than personnel! |
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 11, 2022 14:42:19 GMT 1
What concerns me most is how we've gone from being so tough to play against to being pushovers in defence. A particular issue is the space in front; we're too flat and don't pick up the pieces while allowing runners from midfield to get in the box. For years we've needed a midfielder who can play the Hogg role when Hogg isn't there; never more so than now, with Hogg becoming increasingly static as the years catch up with him. Realistically, I think this is his last season as a midfield regular at this level, moving towards being backup in the next couple of years. As a priority, we need to bring someone in now and I'd hope someone at the club has identified this after Tuesday's debacle. On Saturday, we need to think about our shape and system. Don't leave gaps while supporting the man in possession. Koroma has had a stinker so far this season, I agree, but he's not been given any support when in possession which hasn't helped his decision-making. Get him closer to whoever is up front, with a full-back pushing on (and a midfielder covering them), and we might see more from him if we play with wingers. I wouldn't, but there we go. What Preston did very well was stretch the play with quick switches of play in possession, exposing Spencer in particular. We need to learn from that. I don’t think Preston had to do a right lot to expose us, we were so narrow and far away from their players they had space everywhere. What really concerned me is our shape out of possession, it felt like a training game, far too accepting of their possession and doing nothing like enough to win the ball back. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 11, 2022 14:43:50 GMT 1
OK that's half time, what about a full time score prediction? |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 11, 2022 14:50:03 GMT 1
OK that's half time, what about a full time score prediction? You think we're going to score in the first half? I admire your optimism. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 11, 2022 14:51:47 GMT 1
Koroma made 2 passes in 54 minutes vs Preston. And a 50% completion rate. That is insulting. That is honestly so so so bad Him just pottering about against Stoke will not be acceptable. I see what you did there! |
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Post by sabailand on Aug 11, 2022 14:54:13 GMT 1
I have. Apparently it's the hope that kills you... :-) I admire your optimism TMFA, I'm usually the same but after 45 mins last night mine had evaporated. Usually comes back after a night's sleep but hasn't this time  I have too, it'll be a different line-up on saturday, how different remains to be seen but you'd think DS has learned something from two insipid home performances. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 11, 2022 14:55:34 GMT 1
If ever we needed a performance, it’s now. Hoping for an early goal to take the pressure off everyone. If there's one thing that the first 3 games have taught me it's that an early goal is very likely! |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 11, 2022 14:57:26 GMT 1
I am going off for a fishing weekend so will miss the game, and all the drama that goes with it. UTT. town to win 2-0 I went fly fishing once. I was shite at it. Every time I cast my rod and reeled it back in there was a fish on the end of it. I didn't catch a single fly all day! |
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Post by mosher on Aug 11, 2022 15:07:38 GMT 1
I am going off for a fishing weekend so will miss the game, and all the drama that goes with it. UTT. town to win 2-0 I went fly fishing once. I was shite at it. Every time I cast my rod and reeled it back in there was a fish on the end of it. I didn't catch a single fly all day! Bdum tssh  Is that a Les Dawson rehash? Certainly sounds like something he'd come up with. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 11, 2022 15:14:35 GMT 1
Or Ken Dodd, both geniuses...
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 11, 2022 15:15:00 GMT 1
You should check in with Chadders, see if you’re close by and can have a collective moan? 😁 The thought is nice, but I am going to Cedar Key in the gulf of Mexico. he's going to have to come to me. I'm not jealous, honest... |
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Post by bentley316 on Aug 11, 2022 16:41:18 GMT 1
If we get 5 points between now and the end of the month. Id see that as a positive return from here.
That said i can see us losing to Stoke and getting a battling draw against Norwich. Has the option to buy Sinani expired yet? 🤣
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Aug 11, 2022 16:59:51 GMT 1
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Post by chadders51 on Aug 11, 2022 17:07:39 GMT 1
You should check in with Chadders, see if you’re close by and can have a collective moan? 😁 The thought is nice, but I am going to Cedar Key in the gulf of Mexico. he's going to have to come to me. Nice. I’d swap |
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Post by canuckterrier on Aug 11, 2022 17:42:56 GMT 1
Last season I was disappointed with a draw in this fixture. Not only would I snatch a draw (deserved or otherwise) with both hands, I'd actually be happy with a loss but something we can hang our hats on. A decent performance. Or even a bang average performance. Just stop being utterly abject. Sadly, unless something changes I'm in no doubt that we are going to get bummed in the gob a few times this season and I would not be at all surprised if this Saturday was the first absolute hiding of the season. If 1-4 at home against PNE doesn’t fit that category, I’d hate to think how many you are expecting Stoke to bag  |
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Post by Leporid on Aug 11, 2022 18:00:05 GMT 1
Him just pottering about against Stoke will not be acceptable. I see what you did there! I thought I'd slip that one in... B'dum tish! |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 11, 2022 19:18:39 GMT 1
We should employ him as part-time motivational/arse kicking coach. |
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