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Post by benhomly on Sept 11, 2022 8:07:27 GMT 1
And I am sure those one in four you mentioned will enjoy taking the Bank Holiday too. If they want the Monarchy 1abolished they should make sure they find some sort of employment next Monday. It's about the wider context of everything. Cancelling football was always going to happen and the right decision by the FA. I don't see the issues. They might not enjoy taking the day off so much when they realise they’ll have to take it out of their annual holiday entitlement ie if you get 33 days per year holiday including bank holidays then all of a sudden you’ve got one less ‘floating day’ to take. It doesn’t mean they’re getting an extra days holiday this year, unless their employer deems that to be the case which seems unlikely. That’ll piss the anti royalists off even more I would imagine. What about those who have used up all this years entitlement? They’ll either have to take it out of next years holiday or lose a days pay. The meltdown would be worse than on here when we lose a game. As for should football have been cancelled this weekend, of course it shouldn’t. It’s just another case of the FA being so far up its own arse it can’t see the wood for the trees. Taking the knee going on much longer than it should have being another example.
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Post by digs on Sept 11, 2022 8:10:00 GMT 1
FWIW, George VI died on Wednesday 6th of February 1952 and was buried on the 15th. No games were missed, Town played the following two Saturdays, 9th and 16th...at the time we were rock bottom of the 22 team 1st division. We stayed in the relegation zone (where we'd been since October) through until the penultimate game of the season. The final game of the season was away at already relegated Fulham. We had to match or beat Stokes result at Middlesborough to guarantee survival (would have been same points but we had a better goal average). Stoke won. Fulham, who had not won in 11 games since the Kings death, beat us, and we were relegated So what you're saying is that Huddersfield always get relegated in the year a ruling monarch dies. Plus we've still got the same strikers
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Post by stanton1969 on Sept 11, 2022 8:40:07 GMT 1
Yes it should. Those that don't like it or dislike the Monarch should make sure they work the Bank Holiday. Or maybe see it as a bit of a reward for all the tax paid by every individual in this country to fund the monarchy?
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 11, 2022 8:45:10 GMT 1
Yes it should. Those that don't like it or dislike the Monarch should make sure they work the Bank Holiday. Lol. You realise that this isn’t a given that folk don’t work on the 19th?
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Post by benhomly on Sept 11, 2022 9:02:03 GMT 1
Yes it should. Those that don't like it or dislike the Monarch should make sure they work the Bank Holiday. Or maybe see it as a bit of a reward for all the tax paid by every individual in this country to fund the monarchy? if there was a prize for ignorant post of the year this would take top prize. £4.50 per person per year compared to the £1.766 billion it generates for the British economy
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Post by schindlersmissed on Sept 11, 2022 9:48:18 GMT 1
Or maybe see it as a bit of a reward for all the tax paid by every individual in this country to fund the monarchy? if there was a prize for ignorant post of the year this would take top prize. £4.50 per person per year compared to the £1.766 billion it generates for the British economy But if they all got shot like in Russia the crowds would still flock in (probably more so) so it would be a win win? Just saying.
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Post by richhtfc on Sept 11, 2022 9:50:58 GMT 1
if there was a prize for ignorant post of the year this would take top prize. £4.50 per person per year compared to the £1.766 billion it generates for the British economy But if they all got shot like in Russia the crowds would still flock in (probably more so) so it would be a win win? Just saying. I’m a bit on the fence monarchy wise but France dumped theirs and are the most visited country in the world so the tourism argument doesn’t really hold water. The infrastructure would still be here, palaces and whatnot.
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 11, 2022 9:53:42 GMT 1
Or maybe see it as a bit of a reward for all the tax paid by every individual in this country to fund the monarchy? if there was a prize for ignorant post of the year this would take top prize. £4.50 per person per year compared to the £1.766 billion it generates for the British economy I never understand why people moan about the cost of the royal family. The pomp and ceremony is the envy of the entire world and the tourist attraction is off the scale. In the bigger picture the costs is basically nothing.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 11, 2022 10:05:56 GMT 1
Whichever side of the funding vs revenue argument you sit on, the next few yrs will probably see that examined.
I suspect there will be an uplift on the back of the Queen’s death, but then it’ll be up to Charlie to see if he has the same pull as Brenda.
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Post by araucaria on Sept 11, 2022 10:09:20 GMT 1
FWIW, George VI died on Wednesday 6th of February 1952 and was buried on the 15th. No games were missed, Town played the following two Saturdays, 9th and 16th...at the time we were rock bottom of the 22 team 1st division. We stayed in the relegation zone (where we'd been since October) through until the penultimate game of the season. The final game of the season was away at already relegated Fulham. We had to match or beat Stokes result at Middlesborough to guarantee survival (would have been same points but we had a better goal average). Stoke won. Fulham, who had not won in 11 games since the Kings death, beat us, and we were relegated So what you're saying is that Huddersfield always get relegated in the year a ruling monarch dies. George V died in January 1936, long before Town knew what relegation was. Edward VII died in May 1910, just before our first ever season in the Football League.
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 11, 2022 10:18:28 GMT 1
Whichever side of the funding vs revenue argument you sit on, the next few yrs will probably see that examined. I suspect there will be an uplift on the back of the Queen’s death, but then it’ll be up to Charlie to see if he has the same pull as Brenda. I honestly think they’ve made a massive mistake giving the job to Charles. For me he should have stepped aside and let William have it. For me he divides opinion and will only increase the debate on this.
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Post by orinoco on Sept 11, 2022 10:42:22 GMT 1
Whichever side of the funding vs revenue argument you sit on, the next few yrs will probably see that examined. I suspect there will be an uplift on the back of the Queen’s death, but then it’ll be up to Charlie to see if he has the same pull as Brenda. I honestly think they’ve made a massive mistake giving the job to Charles. For me he should have stepped aside and let William have it. For me he divides opinion and will only increase the debate on this. i thought he would pass it down also, there is also the fact he is in his 70s.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 11, 2022 10:48:30 GMT 1
Whichever side of the funding vs revenue argument you sit on, the next few yrs will probably see that examined. I suspect there will be an uplift on the back of the Queen’s death, but then it’ll be up to Charlie to see if he has the same pull as Brenda. I honestly think they’ve made a massive mistake giving the job to Charles. For me he should have stepped aside and let William have it. For me he divides opinion and will only increase the debate on this. He’s had a long time to become controversial, but I think many would have seen that as a cop-out. William might become as controversial over the next 20 yrs or so, but he’s living in a different era to when Charles was heir. Charles said a fair amount of stuff that’s actually quite accurate as well, the controversy being caused because some people thought he shouldn’t be saying anything at all. This is a moment in history that I certainly can’t recall as being so momentous in my lifetime. We’ll have to see what transpires. I think the coronation could be tricky for him in some people’s minds. Time will tell…
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Post by einediemengedochsen on Sept 11, 2022 10:52:37 GMT 1
Just thank goodness that Charles is the eldest son.
And therein lies the problem of a hereditary monarchy.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 11, 2022 10:58:09 GMT 1
Just thank goodness that Charles is the eldest son. And therein lies the problem of a hereditary monarchy. Its tragic that Anne wasnt born first now the rules of succession have changed..
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Post by einediemengedochsen on Sept 11, 2022 11:06:57 GMT 1
Just thank goodness that Charles is the eldest son. And therein lies the problem of a hereditary monarchy. Its tragic that Anne wasnt born first now the rules of succession have changed.. Who knows which unelected head of state the country may get in the future. Hopefully Charles and William will be around for a long time. During a live broadcast yesterday filming a royal walkabout some chap shouted out at the top of his voice “All hail the King!”. Sounded weird, I thought I had woken up in some sort of medieval/fantasy parallel universe!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2022 11:29:08 GMT 1
Whichever side of the funding vs revenue argument you sit on, the next few yrs will probably see that examined. I suspect there will be an uplift on the back of the Queen’s death, but then it’ll be up to Charlie to see if he has the same pull as Brenda. I honestly think they’ve made a massive mistake giving the job to Charles. For me he should have stepped aside and let William have it. For me he divides opinion and will only increase the debate on this. To be fair nobody can "give" him the job, just as the only way to take it away is a coup or a revolution. He was born into it. He may have been advised privately to stand aside, he's clearly not the best person for the job, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 11, 2022 11:34:35 GMT 1
Its tragic that Anne wasnt born first now the rules of succession have changed.. Who knows which unelected head of state the country may get in the future. Hopefully Charles and William will be around for a long time. During a live broadcast yesterday filming a royal walkabout some chap shouted out at the top of his voice “All hail the King!”. Sounded weird, I thought I had woken up in some sort of medieval/fantasy parallel universe! The Queen was the last of the non meddlers as head of state. Charles wont be able to help himself, the new Prince of Wales is actively encouraged to make big statements which refer to national govt policy and Harry and her indoors are getting paid fortunes to be front and centre of issues, whilst retaining titles that require public service they no longer do. My guess is the Firm will wither.
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Post by drewden on Sept 11, 2022 11:45:43 GMT 1
Who knows which unelected head of state the country may get in the future. Hopefully Charles and William will be around for a long time. During a live broadcast yesterday filming a royal walkabout some chap shouted out at the top of his voice “All hail the King!”. Sounded weird, I thought I had woken up in some sort of medieval/fantasy parallel universe! The Queen was the last of the non meddlers as head of state. Charles wont be able to help himself, the new Prince of Wales is actively encouraged to make big statements which refer to national govt policy and Harry and her indoors are getting paid fortunes to be front and centre of issues, whilst retaining titles that require public service they no longer do. My guess is the Firm will wither. I enjoy reading your posts, you talk a lot of sense, you forgot to mention the black sheep of the family, the good old Andrew, wonder what is in store for him.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 11, 2022 11:51:56 GMT 1
The Queen was the last of the non meddlers as head of state. Charles wont be able to help himself, the new Prince of Wales is actively encouraged to make big statements which refer to national govt policy and Harry and her indoors are getting paid fortunes to be front and centre of issues, whilst retaining titles that require public service they no longer do. My guess is the Firm will wither. I enjoy reading your posts, you talk a lot of sense, you forgot to mention the black sheep of the family, the good old Andrew, wonder what is in store for him. Charles and William now have the influence and opportunity to move him right out of the centre of the Firm. She was the Queen but she is a mum when all said and done, it wasnt a failing really, just mums natures, she believed him and in him.
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Post by sabailand on Sept 11, 2022 11:56:07 GMT 1
The Queen was the last of the non meddlers as head of state. Charles wont be able to help himself, the new Prince of Wales is actively encouraged to make big statements which refer to national govt policy and Harry and her indoors are getting paid fortunes to be front and centre of issues, whilst retaining titles that require public service they no longer do. My guess is the Firm will wither. I enjoy reading your posts, you talk a lot of sense, you forgot to mention the black sheep of the family, the good old Andrew, wonder what is in store for him. Not much, i really cant see him ever having an high profile role, Charles knows it, William knows it, the Queen herself knew it, to elevate him would do untold damage to the royal family.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 11, 2022 12:18:41 GMT 1
To some degree Andrew has lost his comfort blanket. I don’t think it’ll happen immediately, but I do think they’ll be ruthless in making sure he’s sidelined and out of sight. He’s something that will never go away for the royal family, but they’ll do their best to make sure he doesn’t affect their public image.
This is probably part of the reason why the Queen is held in such high regard. We now have the situation where the head of state is held by an adulterer and divorcee. Probably not unique in the history of their family, but in modern times, with a press that will prod & poke, and the fact that a lot of people in this country will soon be struggling with higher bills etc.
I fully expect the coronation ceremony will be hugely scaled down, particularly when you consider the one beyond that isn’t likely to be too far away (in context of the last one).
Interesting times ahead, but suspect there will be many twists & turns before the dust settles and we’ll see how this might play out.
Back OT - have they confirmed the position with midweek games yet, or are we simply to assume that if they don’t say anything, then the games are on? It’s now lunchtime on Sunday, and again the FA and the authorities seem to be doing their best to let frustration build.
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Post by ruggedivy on Sept 11, 2022 12:23:08 GMT 1
To some degree Andrew has lost his comfort blanket. I don’t think it’ll happen immediately, but I do think they’ll be ruthless in making sure he’s sidelined and out of sight. He’s something that will never go away for the royal family, but they’ll do their best to make sure he doesn’t affect their public image. This is probably part of the reason why the Queen is held in such high regard. We now have the situation where the head of state is held by an adulterer and divorcee. Probably not unique in the history of their family, but in modern times, with a press that will prod & poke, and the fact that a lot of people in this country will soon be struggling with higher bills etc. I fully expect the coronation ceremony will be hugely scaled down, particularly when you consider the one beyond that isn’t likely to be too far away (in context of the last one). Interesting times ahead, but suspect there will be many twists & turns before the dust settles and we’ll see how this might play out. Back OT - have they confirmed the position with midweek games yet, or are we simply to assume that if they don’t say anything, then the games are on? It’s now lunchtime on Sunday, and again the FA and the authorities seem to be doing their best to let frustration build. The EFL confirmed yesterday that the midweek games are on
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 11, 2022 12:27:59 GMT 1
Cheers for that. Missed that in the melee.
Thank feck for that….
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Post by Manx Terrier on Sept 11, 2022 12:34:51 GMT 1
I have always liked Charles and throughout his life I have thought he has talked much sense- particularly on farming, architecture and climate change. That talk will have to stop now, just like the Queen was unable to voice her opinions. But it will now be open to Prince of Wales will take up the mantle and voice views of a younger generation, which is good. I have always liked Camilla as well. In fact the worst thing Charles ever did was not to marry Camilla in the first place.
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Post by schindlersmissed on Sept 11, 2022 12:36:28 GMT 1
I honestly think they’ve made a massive mistake giving the job to Charles. For me he should have stepped aside and let William have it. For me he divides opinion and will only increase the debate on this. He’s had a long time to become controversial, but I think many would have seen that as a cop-out. William might become as controversial over the next 20 yrs or so, but he’s living in a different era to when Charles was heir. Charles said a fair amount of stuff that’s actually quite accurate as well, the controversy being caused because some people thought he shouldn’t be saying anything at all. This is a moment in history that I certainly can’t recall as being so momentous in my lifetime. We’ll have to see what transpires. I think the coronation could be tricky for him in some people’s minds. Time will tell… That sounds weird- Brexit, Covid and Ukraine and you think this death of an old lady is ‘momentous’. Good job we’re all different!
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 11, 2022 12:40:19 GMT 1
I honestly think they’ve made a massive mistake giving the job to Charles. For me he should have stepped aside and let William have it. For me he divides opinion and will only increase the debate on this. To be fair nobody can "give" him the job, just as the only way to take it away is a coup or a revolution. He was born into it. He may have been advised privately to stand aside, he's clearly not the best person for the job, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. I appreciate that. But I’m still of the opinion that the queen could have told him straight, once he was found playing away behind his wifes back, that he wasn’t getting the gig.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 11, 2022 12:42:27 GMT 1
He’s had a long time to become controversial, but I think many would have seen that as a cop-out. William might become as controversial over the next 20 yrs or so, but he’s living in a different era to when Charles was heir. Charles said a fair amount of stuff that’s actually quite accurate as well, the controversy being caused because some people thought he shouldn’t be saying anything at all. This is a moment in history that I certainly can’t recall as being so momentous in my lifetime. We’ll have to see what transpires. I think the coronation could be tricky for him in some people’s minds. Time will tell… That sounds weird- Brexit, Covid and Ukraine and you think this death of an old lady is ‘momentous’. Good job we’re all different! As a single event of history. I agree that the others are equally momentous, but as different instances (more wide ranging, slow burning). Political and longer term affecting.
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Post by schindlersmissed on Sept 11, 2022 12:52:02 GMT 1
That sounds weird- Brexit, Covid and Ukraine and you think this death of an old lady is ‘momentous’. Good job we’re all different! As a single event of history. I agree that the others are equally momentous, but as different instances (more wide ranging, slow burning). Political and longer term affecting. Ok I see. It’s just that we all couldn’t help being affected by the other three whereas with this for me (and lots of other citizens) it’s a complete irrelevance that will have virtually zero affect on my life.
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Post by schindlersmissed on Sept 11, 2022 12:55:28 GMT 1
As a single event of history. I agree that the others are equally momentous, but as different instances (more wide ranging, slow burning). Political and longer term affecting. Ok I see. It’s just that we all couldn’t help being affected by the other three whereas with this for me (and lots of other citizens) it’s a complete irrelevance that will have virtually zero affect on my life.
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