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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 11, 2022 13:02:43 GMT 1
It’ll be nothing compared to the other things you mention, but not so sure it’ll have zero impact.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 11, 2022 13:04:28 GMT 1
I hope that when the games kick off this week, folk will realise that sport is a brilliant ‘out’ for many people.
Given the nature of real life, sport is a valuable distraction.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Sept 11, 2022 13:06:45 GMT 1
So if you dont go along with inane conspiracy theories youre a hypnotised sheep? Is it really the time for peddling such fantasist garbage? There’s thousands of photos/videos/pictures of Saville and Epstein around the royal family .It is fact Saville and Epstein are universally accepted paedophiles (and most probably procurers of young people for the rich and famous ) to suggest otherwise would be conspiracy Think why there hasn’t been full and thorough enquiries into both individuals? that’s what anyone should want -transparency and justice or do we simply allow authority to sweep such matters under the table because our minds can’t handle the truth ? On the Diana car crash there’s also many questions unanswered but yeah to suggest it was an assassination is conspiracy theory I will give you that
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Post by stanton1969 on Sept 11, 2022 14:02:21 GMT 1
Or maybe see it as a bit of a reward for all the tax paid by every individual in this country to fund the monarchy? if there was a prize for ignorant post of the year this would take top prize. £4.50 per person per year compared to the £1.766 billion it generates for the British economy Where did I say that the monarchy doesn't generate money that goes into the economy? My point is that they are tax funded just for being born. Which when there are people who can't pay their bills or feed themselves is egregious in this day and age. If they generate so much money, why not find a way to make the monarchy self-sustaining? Others have also said on this thread that people don't stop visiting a country just because the actual people aren't there anymore. Are you ignorant to the principles I have outlined above?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2022 14:52:18 GMT 1
To be fair nobody can "give" him the job, just as the only way to take it away is a coup or a revolution. He was born into it. He may have been advised privately to stand aside, he's clearly not the best person for the job, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. I appreciate that. But I’m still of the opinion that the queen could have told him straight, once he was found playing away behind his wifes back, that he wasn’t getting the gig. She could've done, she may have done - but it wasn't her call either. And that's the thing - if Charles was a tyrannical psychopath, he'd still be king. If Andrew was a few years older and had been found guilty of things he's been accused of, he'd be king.
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Post by Tim Nice But Dim on Sept 11, 2022 18:33:46 GMT 1
But if they all got shot like in Russia the crowds would still flock in (probably more so) so it would be a win win? Just saying. I’m a bit on the fence monarchy wise but France dumped theirs and are the most visited country in the world so the tourism argument doesn’t really hold water. The infrastructure would still be here, palaces and whatnot. People go to France because it has everything and let's face it, foreign tourists do not come here for the food or the weather. There will never be another monarch like the QUEEN and people complain because all the football was off, so what one lousy day just to show some respect but i suppose that is a word some people know nothing about. .
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Post by stevvy on Sept 11, 2022 19:26:44 GMT 1
More or less every other sport, various other non sporting events went ahead both on Friday and across the weekend. Did they therefore not show respect by carrying on? No
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 11, 2022 19:48:45 GMT 1
More or less every other sport, various other non sporting events went ahead both on Friday and across the weekend. Did they therefore not show respect by carrying on? No They were actually given the opportunity to pay their respects. Frustrating
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Post by HTAFC Darren on Sept 11, 2022 20:04:46 GMT 1
Is there any chance that the Tuesday games will be called off or has it been confirmed they're to go ahead?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 11, 2022 20:20:55 GMT 1
Someone on here mentioned that it had been confirmed yesterday that midweek games were on.
Can’t see anything official yet though, nor about the game next Sat.
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Post by orinoco on Sept 11, 2022 20:29:11 GMT 1
Andrew is taking the corgis in, thats all ive heard today. Yorks news is a great app!!.
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 11, 2022 20:31:59 GMT 1
Is there any chance that the Tuesday games will be called off or has it been confirmed they're to go ahead? Not that I’m travelling to this one - but it will be a disgrace if they’re called off at this late stage... Without getting into the rights and wrongs of cancellation and the rights and wrongs of timescales of postponements if Tuesday’s games are to be off it should’ve been announced along with the weekend cancellations... I doubt many Town fans will have the old style teletext that I still do but it’s very handy for fixtures and showing a full Football League Card on Tuesday, a full European card Tue/Wed/Thurs and Aston Villa v Southampton and Notts Forest v Fulham on Friday but only The Welsh cup for Saturday so who knows - but for the sake of travelling fans if Saturday has to go then the Football authorities should announce it soon as, but as they don’t and never have given a flying f-ck for fans then they won’t and it’ll be the last minute if it’s gonna be off... My goodness - has there ever been such a disrupted season for Town fans outwith major issues like Covid and Wartime etc - And we’ve still got the World Cup to come !
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 11, 2022 21:31:29 GMT 1
I don't care about other sports. Football is the National game and IMO should be leading the way. If other Sports failed to do the right thing then that is upto them. We will all be back watching Town get beat on Tuesday night, so not all bad. UTT GSTK Seriously??? Two years of the establishment telling us how we should live our lives, this is just another example. Football fans are generally working class and we need to know our place. Fancy restaurants closed??? We’re they chuff.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2022 21:57:07 GMT 1
I don't care about other sports. Football is the National game and IMO should be leading the way. If other Sports failed to do the right thing then that is upto them. We will all be back watching Town get beat on Tuesday night, so not all bad. UTT GSTK Leading the way in what? Performative mourning? Perhaps football should have "lead the way" by carrying on regardless - which is quite possibly what she would've wanted. I struggle to believe nobody thought to ask her what she wanted to happen to life in the coming weeks; she was in pallative care, it's not like it was sudden and unexpected - she was lucid enough to tell people what she wanted. As for "the right thing" - many millions of people would disagree that it would be "the right thing". People give their respects in different ways, and guess what - some people don't think an old woman passing away really matters that much, in the scheme of things - and some people just don't care. As is their right. What you're saying is that YOU think the right thing was to postpone games, but you're declaring it as "the right thing" - bit arrogant, no? I reckon you're in the minority. The poll you're replying to suggests you are, indeed, in the minority.
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Post by belizian on Sept 11, 2022 22:07:28 GMT 1
I think the board members of the Premiership, FA, EFL and others that were responsible for calling soccer off will have done no harm to their chances of extra gongs in the honours system.
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Post by tepidterrier on Sept 11, 2022 22:21:32 GMT 1
if there was a prize for ignorant post of the year this would take top prize. £4.50 per person per year compared to the £1.766 billion it generates for the British economy Where did I say that the monarchy doesn't generate money that goes into the economy? My point is that they are tax funded just for being born. Which when there are people who can't pay their bills or feed themselves is egregious in this day and age. If they generate so much money, why not find a way to make the monarchy self-sustaining? Others have also said on this thread that people don't stop visiting a country just because the actual people aren't there anymore. Are you ignorant to the principles I have outlined above? beyond that, does the existence of the royal family in its current manifestation generate the money or is it other things? If there was a republic declared tomorrow, tourists would still visit Buckingham palace. They could easily self sustain as well, they're among the most financially well connected people in the world
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2022 22:29:32 GMT 1
Where did I say that the monarchy doesn't generate money that goes into the economy? My point is that they are tax funded just for being born. Which when there are people who can't pay their bills or feed themselves is egregious in this day and age. If they generate so much money, why not find a way to make the monarchy self-sustaining? Others have also said on this thread that people don't stop visiting a country just because the actual people aren't there anymore. Are you ignorant to the principles I have outlined above? beyond that, does the existence of the royal family in its current manifestation generate the money or is it other things? If there was a republic declared tomorrow, tourists would still visit Buckingham palace. They could easily self sustain as well, they're among the most financially well connected people in the worldCertainly financially well-connected enough to make awkward enquiries from major foreign law enforcement agencies just go away...or find the money to pay off the accusers.
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Post by wildhogg on Sept 11, 2022 22:44:44 GMT 1
Andrew is taking the corgis in, thats all ive heard today. Yorks news is a great app!!. As if the RSPCA don't already have enough to do.
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Post by offsideclyde on Sept 11, 2022 22:48:35 GMT 1
Two years of the establishment telling us how to live our lives?
Bit dramatic to say the least.
This was one weekend without football it's not the end of the World, some on here might have you believe.
Like I said we will be back on Tuesday. And back to watching the Worlds slowest midfielder in Russell, A coach that is completely out of his depth and a left back who should be playing Sunday league.
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Post by est1908 on Sept 11, 2022 23:06:15 GMT 1
This thread is embarrassing. I'm pretty sure some of the things typed on here, wouldn't be said to the poster's children or family...
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Post by offsideclyde on Sept 11, 2022 23:13:23 GMT 1
On a positive note we have a new centre forward who will be fit to play in December.
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Post by turbo2 on Sept 12, 2022 7:53:34 GMT 1
Two years of the establishment telling us how to live our lives? Bit dramatic to say the least. This was one weekend without football it's not the end of the World, some on here might have you believe. Like I said we will be back on Tuesday. And back to watching the Worlds slowest midfielder in Russell, A coach that is completely out of his depth and a left back who should be playing Sunday league. UTT You fell asleep during Covid?? Two years. Can’t have folk in your own house. Can’t go outside apart from exercise, can’t go to a pub or restaurant, can’t go on holiday. Can’t do anything. This is just another example of those with the power letting us minions know our place.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 12, 2022 9:14:49 GMT 1
So if you dont go along with inane conspiracy theories youre a hypnotised sheep? Is it really the time for peddling such fantasist garbage? There’s thousands of photos/videos/pictures of Saville and Epstein around the royal family .It is fact Saville and Epstein are universally accepted paedophiles (and most probably procurers of young people for the rich and famous ) to suggest otherwise would be conspiracy Think why there hasn’t been full and thorough enquiries into both individuals? that’s what anyone should want -transparency and justice or do we simply allow authority to sweep such matters under the table because our minds can’t handle the truth ? On the Diana car crash there’s also many questions unanswered but yeah to suggest it was an assassination is conspiracy theory I will give you that Id imagine there are thousands of pictures of just about every major celebrity who's been in the public eye for any period of time with the royal family. Savile was in the public eye like that for decades and well known for his charity/fundraising work, so that will have increased the chances of coming into contact with royalty even more so. Id be surprised if ANY of the famous people who have been brought down by scandal , sexual, financial, criminal.. whatever, over the past few decades havent been photographed with people from the royal family many times. Im not sure it proves or even suggests anything.. other than the royals get photographed with a lot of people. Its a big part of the gig isn't it?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 12, 2022 9:22:24 GMT 1
Forget big brother, we have DATM admins… 😉
Whose job will probably be a bit more interesting right now…
Have they said anything about the Saturday games yet? I could probably understand if they postponed the Sunday games, but Saturday feels as though it would provide a sufficient buffer for the Monday.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 12, 2022 9:26:21 GMT 1
Where did I say that the monarchy doesn't generate money that goes into the economy? My point is that they are tax funded just for being born. Which when there are people who can't pay their bills or feed themselves is egregious in this day and age. If they generate so much money, why not find a way to make the monarchy self-sustaining? Others have also said on this thread that people don't stop visiting a country just because the actual people aren't there anymore. Are you ignorant to the principles I have outlined above? beyond that, does the existence of the royal family in its current manifestation generate the money or is it other things? If there was a republic declared tomorrow, tourists would still visit Buckingham palace. They could easily self sustain as well, they're among the most financially well connected people in the world If a marketing company took on 'the UK' as its client then the idea of getting rid of the monarchy would probably blow their brains out! It would be like telling Ferrari to stop making cars in red and do away with the little horse badge! Think if people can't get past this envy or resentment of their privileged lives ( not a life id want myself ) or value the monarchy being a huge part of our history, traditions, heritage and culture as a nation,,,,,then perhaps just see them as that.. a marketing tool.. an asset we can use to promote our country and one that so many in the rest of the world are fascinated by and drawn to.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Sept 12, 2022 9:34:08 GMT 1
beyond that, does the existence of the royal family in its current manifestation generate the money or is it other things? If there was a republic declared tomorrow, tourists would still visit Buckingham palace. They could easily self sustain as well, they're among the most financially well connected people in the world If a marketing company took on 'the UK' as its client then the idea of getting rid of the monarchy would probably blow their brains out! It would be like telling Ferrari to stop making cars in red and do away with the little horse badge! Think if people can't get past this envy or resentment of their privileged lives ( not a life id want myself ) or value the monarchy being a huge part of our history, traditions, heritage and culture as a nation,,,,,then perhaps just see them as that.. a marketing tool.. an asset we can use to promote our country and one that so many in the rest of the world are fascinated by and drawn to. Well said . Another point to make ask anyone who has worked in the forces what they think of the queen and nearly all were as proud as punch to represent her. Which speaks volumes. The queen alone was a huge motivator in doing the right thing in life for our troops.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Sept 12, 2022 9:40:07 GMT 1
Forget big brother, we have DATM admins… 😉 Whose job will probably be a bit more interesting right now… Have they said anything about the Saturday games yet? I could probably understand if they postponed the Sunday games, but Saturday feels as though it would provide a sufficient buffer for the Monday. Not heard anything about Saturday's match but don't really see why Saturdays or Sundays games can't go ahead. I appreciate some matches played in London next weekend may need to be postponed due to the sheer volume of people that will be descending on the capital but don't really see why a game like ours needs to called off, especially since we are due to play tomorrow night.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 12, 2022 9:54:30 GMT 1
If a marketing company took on 'the UK' as its client then the idea of getting rid of the monarchy would probably blow their brains out! It would be like telling Ferrari to stop making cars in red and do away with the little horse badge! Think if people can't get past this envy or resentment of their privileged lives ( not a life id want myself ) or value the monarchy being a huge part of our history, traditions, heritage and culture as a nation,,,,,then perhaps just see them as that.. a marketing tool.. an asset we can use to promote our country and one that so many in the rest of the world are fascinated by and drawn to. Well said . Another point to make ask anyone who has worked in the forces what they think of the queen and nearly all were as proud as punch to represent her. Which speaks volumes. The queen alone was a huge motivator in doing the right thing in life for our troops. We do pomp and ceremony in celebration or sadness better than anyone. Whatever the cost to the public purse of this sad death is, it appears it will bring in 10 fold for Londons businesses. Even bringing it down to the finances shows how the money invested in the Firm covers itself and more. The world has great interest in them, to deny it is foolish. Hundreds, probably more are employed and even though I believe the times of Kings and Queens have passed, the move away from a Monarchy needs to be slow and considered.
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Post by westislandterrier on Sept 12, 2022 14:49:57 GMT 1
All top League matches on in Scotland on Saturday (and therefore I’d imagine Dumbarton FC and Clachnacuddin FC in their Leagues also ! 🥃 Attachment Deleted
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Sept 12, 2022 15:00:48 GMT 1
Someone on here mentioned that it had been confirmed yesterday that midweek games were on. Well, that's my week ruined.
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