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Post by Metch on Oct 2, 2022 5:00:36 GMT 1
It's early days I know but I was so impressed with Narcis when he took over, what he said, the team he put out , the way he set them up to win. Shame he didn't get a couple more games to show his worth. MF hasn't come close so far on any of those points in my opinion. Still hoping he succeeds but he hasn't given me any confidence yet that he will.
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 2, 2022 6:23:33 GMT 1
Another howler by Nicholls btw. He's making far too many mistakes. I guess in that split second he thought it was back pass and that he couldn’t pick up. However, to simply let it though his hands was dreadful. It was one of many poor decisions made by so many. They are clearly lacking confidence. It’s way too early to be blaming the manager. The players have to look at themselves. Sorba put some real quality crosses into the box but Rhodes and Ward got nowhere near them. At least he played him on the right which is where he is more effective. Turton and lees still looked solid. Yuto and Helik did not. Russell to slow and just can’t run. Kasumu worked hard and did his job. Holmes was anonymous. Rudhoni again nice touches at times but zero end product. Nichols has no competition for his place and it clearly shows. We are in big trouble and it’s all down to lack of investment. Quality investment not potential from league one. I temper is losing 3-0 to Yeovil away on sky. The pundit said “the difference is Yeovil have championship quality players, Huddersfield do not “. We are back there I’m afraid.
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Post by dezzly on Oct 2, 2022 7:25:56 GMT 1
All I can think is that Russel really impresses is training?. I can see that to be fair, his control and passing are excellent. Unfortunately without the protection he had last season he just doesn’t seem effective in actual games because of his lack of intensity. O’Brien carried him is my opinion. Looks like a shadow of the player who broke into the team in January. unfortunately it’s looking more and more like o brien carried a lot of players.hopefully manager has now seen that training is not a game and that Russell doesn’t have a place in the starting line up currently.I personally don’t like to harp back to transfer windows etc as prefer to look at where we are and what we can do,but getting in another midfielder,someone who can get on the ball and dictate the game,we were crying out for that and still are.we can’t string 2 passes together under pressure.kasumu paired with camara will improve on yesterday but realistically we shouldn’t be relying on a lad who’s made one professional start(no matter how good he is or how good he can be) and a lad who’s clearly got talent and a good player but has just stepped up from league 1 and has a history of injury issues(he may irradiate the injuries going forward I know) Tuesday will be very very tough,they have found their feet again and aren’t the sort of side that will let up.plus they will think they owe us one.
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Post by dezzly on Oct 2, 2022 7:44:27 GMT 1
What I would also say is playing 4-4-2 is no good for us,we did in first half and looked poor.changed it second half and did looked improved though nowhere near enough.sorba for me has to play on the right(preferably of a 3) On the left under schofield he struggled to the eye anyway(I see his chance creation stats are still the best in the division) and yesterday playing up in the 2 he was almost none existent.
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Post by capitalterrier on Oct 2, 2022 8:04:31 GMT 1
Where was tino?
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 2, 2022 8:16:26 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2022 8:47:21 GMT 1
What I would also say is playing 4-4-2 is no good for us,we did in first half and looked poor.changed it second half and did looked improved though nowhere near enough.sorba for me has to play on the right(preferably of a 3) On the left under schofield he struggled to the eye anyway(I see his chance creation stats are still the best in the division) and yesterday playing up in the 2 he was almost none existent. Tricky now having 4 left sided centre backs and 1 fit right sided. I think Boyle can be ruled out but that leaves 3. If Jackson gives us more on the left where does that leave Nakayama? All 3 are internationals but in a 2 only one may end up playing. Danny tried playing 4 at the back to increase our attacking ability but soon changed it, I wonder if Mark will. He must see trying Camara is needed but may want to play Hogg behind him, which makes us very defensive with 3 centre backs. He has a lot of decisions to make.
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Post by wildhogg on Oct 2, 2022 9:01:36 GMT 1
I can totally understand fans' criticism of MMF after only a single game.
(i) He wasn't the appointment anyone wanted. (ii) He's very clearly the cheap option at a time when the club is in crisis and everyone knows we needed a manager/head coach with experience/a track record. MMT has experience as an assistant coach at a yo-yo German club which is smaller than Town and a brief spell as an assistant at a perennially underachieving Bundesliga club. It's been cringeworthy to hear him repeat his perceived achievements in Germany over and over again. In reality the poor guy has had little else to draw on. (iii) He's presented pretty terribly in early interviews/press conferences and hasn't sounded like the brightest guy in the world. (iv) He dropped the MOM from our last game and gave a really vague explanation for his decision. (v) He replaced the MOM from our last game with a player who has been utterly woeful all season. (vi) He was in charge of an abject performance yesterday. We looked worse than ever.
I was trying to be positive up until listening to the press conference.
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Post by dezzly on Oct 2, 2022 9:05:08 GMT 1
What I would also say is playing 4-4-2 is no good for us,we did in first half and looked poor.changed it second half and did looked improved though nowhere near enough.sorba for me has to play on the right(preferably of a 3) On the left under schofield he struggled to the eye anyway(I see his chance creation stats are still the best in the division) and yesterday playing up in the 2 he was almost none existent. Tricky now having 4 left sided centre backs and 1 fit right sided. I think Boyle can be ruled out but that leaves 3. If Jackson gives us more on the left where does that leave Nakayama? All 3 are internationals but in a 2 only one may end up playing. Danny tried playing 4 at the back to increase our attacking ability but soon changed it, I wonder if Mark will. He must see trying Camara is needed but may want to play Hogg behind him, which makes us very defensive with 3 centre backs. He has a lot of decisions to make. Yes,I would say really the squad probably suits a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3 just for midfield numbers.We have been over run in midfield when Russel has played in 2 in there.we don’t really have any proper wing backs other than Kessler Hayden so 3 at the back is a no go for me now.if yuta can improve his form of play the back 4 of turton(or KKH) lees helik yuta but needs protection so either a very deep lying midfielder in a midfield 3 or the 2 shielding in the 4-2-3-1.most importantly they need to be mobile though, Play sorba on the right where he is comfortable,play tino or holmes on the left(depending on opposition,holmes against the better teams as works harder off the ball) and then rudoni in the 10 where he is clearly more suited(I don’t think he has the pace to play wide in this division)if MF wants to press,and I know we didn’t yesterday but that could just be lack of time,I’d play ward up top as he proved last season he’s a hard worker and he’s that bit more mobile than Rhodes.the midfield 2 for me would be camara and kasumu although maybe for certain games Hogg is better suited with kasumu,Hogg has always been very good in games where we just have to dig in,put bodies on the line and graft(such as tuesday in my eyes) Let’s see how we go over the coming weeks but I’d be going defensively solid for Tuesday with an eye on been more progressive next Sunday against a weak hull at home.
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Post by otterman on Oct 2, 2022 9:24:36 GMT 1
Fotheringham’s CV is longer than the Bayeux tapestry. Both as a player and coach, so many clubs and countries. Never stays anywhere for five minutes. Why is that? Unemployed for a number of months before arriving. His interviews are plodding and lack any finesse, being repetitive and irrelevant in the assertions he has made about himself. Hasn’t got a pro license?? I imagine he got an easy ride at the interview, as there were probably no other applicants. Fits the bill perfectly for a rinse and repeat of Cowleys, Siewert, Schofield et al. Only two outcomes here: 1. He fails and is sacked 2. He miraculously achieves a turn around ( like Corberan) and is told to get back in his box when he asks for the board to back his success in the transfer market, and leaves. The board will then blame him ( like they did Corberan ) for abandoning a successful club hahahahaha. The board is a joke. Too many suits achieving not very much on big salaries and patting each other on the back. And all Hoyle wants is his money back. Good luck with that.
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Post by ambryboy on Oct 2, 2022 9:40:59 GMT 1
Fotheringham’s CV is longer than the Bayeux tapestry. Both as a player and coach, so many clubs and countries. Never stays anywhere for five minutes. Why is that? Unemployed for a number of months before arriving. His interviews are plodding and lack any finesse, being repetitive and irrelevant in the assertions he has made about himself. Hasn’t got a pro license?? I imagine he got an easy ride at the interview, as there were probably no other applicants. Fits the bill perfectly for a rinse and repeat of Cowleys, Siewert, Schofield et al. Only two outcomes here: 1. He fails and is sacked 2. He miraculously achieves a turn around ( like Corberan) and is told to get back in his box when he asks for the board to back his success in the transfer market, and leaves. The board will then blame him ( like they did Corberan ) for abandoning a successful club hahahahaha. The board is a joke. Too many suits achieving not very much on big salaries and patting each other on the back. And all Hoyle wants is his money back. Good luck with that. Hoyle could hardly be further from getting his money back right now, having failed to speculate to accumulate his asset is rapidly depreciating. He either needs to accept a large write off or make the right investment to get us looking like a top 6 Championship team.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 2, 2022 9:44:07 GMT 1
Known it for years, but some on here have just confirmed to me we have a large number of knee-jerk reactionary crybabies, its pathetic, yes we were shit but give the bloke a fkn chance. I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. Can't have been to many games then. Could name many many more worse than that. Yes it was awful, but so many fans going OTT just because we didn't get Wagner.
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Post by rugbyterrier on Oct 2, 2022 9:50:17 GMT 1
Fotheringham’s CV is longer than the Bayeux tapestry. Both as a player and coach, so many clubs and countries. Never stays anywhere for five minutes. Why is that? Unemployed for a number of months before arriving. His interviews are plodding and lack any finesse, being repetitive and irrelevant in the assertions he has made about himself. Hasn’t got a pro license?? I imagine he got an easy ride at the interview, as there were probably no other applicants. Fits the bill perfectly for a rinse and repeat of Cowleys, Siewert, Schofield et al. Only two outcomes here: 1. He fails and is sacked 2. He miraculously achieves a turn around ( like Corberan) and is told to get back in his box when he asks for the board to back his success in the transfer market, and leaves. The board will then blame him ( like they did Corberan ) for abandoning a successful club hahahahaha. The board is a joke. Too many suits achieving not very much on big salaries and patting each other on the back. And all Hoyle wants is his money back. Good luck with that. Hoyle could hardly be further from getting his money back right now, having failed to speculate to accumulate his asset is rapidly depreciating. He either needs to accept a large write off or make the right investment to get us looking like a top 6 Championship team. I agree wholeheartedly. Having watched Truss flounder on the BBC this morning, I was reminded of.... "That’s it for now, other than to thank you one final time for your support. We couldn’t hold any of the old ‘Q&A’ sessions over the last 18 months due to the pandemic, but I plan to bring them back once the season is under way, probably from October. I look forward to seeing many of you then." From July 26th.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Oct 2, 2022 9:50:19 GMT 1
What I would also say is playing 4-4-2 is no good for us,we did in first half and looked poor.changed it second half and did looked improved though nowhere near enough.sorba for me has to play on the right(preferably of a 3) On the left under schofield he struggled to the eye anyway(I see his chance creation stats are still the best in the division) and yesterday playing up in the 2 he was almost none existent. Tricky now having 4 left sided centre backs and 1 fit right sided. I think Boyle can be ruled out but that leaves 3. If Jackson gives us more on the left where does that leave Nakayama? All 3 are internationals but in a 2 only one may end up playing. Danny tried playing 4 at the back to increase our attacking ability but soon changed it, I wonder if Mark will. He must see trying Camara is needed but may want to play Hogg behind him, which makes us very defensive with 3 centre backs. He has a lot of decisions to make. He does. Basically our problems are coming because we are conceding an average of 1.6 goals a game compared to 1 a game last season. If he sorts.that out, however he does it, we should be fine. If not, we are absolutely knackered and he’ll be gone by Xmas.
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Post by rugbyterrier on Oct 2, 2022 9:51:10 GMT 1
Any dates been set yet?
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 2, 2022 9:52:49 GMT 1
I am afraid there is no choice, but that performance by H.T.F.C was the worst I have witnessed since I have supported them nearly 52 years. Can't have been to many games then. Could name many many more worse than that. Yes it was awful, but so many fans going OTT just because we didn't get Wagner. I didn’t want Wagner back. But I also think it’s one of the worst performances I’ve seen in 45 years. Absolutely awful all over the pitch. And we are in big trouble. Big big trouble. MF has got a huge task turning this around
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Post by ambryboy on Oct 2, 2022 10:02:10 GMT 1
I wouldn't worry unduly about keeping your diary clear for the next Q&A
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 2, 2022 10:02:37 GMT 1
That new manager bounce, eh?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2022 10:06:02 GMT 1
Fotheringham’s CV is longer than the Bayeux tapestry. Both as a player and coach, so many clubs and countries. Never stays anywhere for five minutes. Why is that? Unemployed for a number of months before arriving. His interviews are plodding and lack any finesse, being repetitive and irrelevant in the assertions he has made about himself. Hasn’t got a pro license?? I imagine he got an easy ride at the interview, as there were probably no other applicants. Fits the bill perfectly for a rinse and repeat of Cowleys, Siewert, Schofield et al. Only two outcomes here: 1. He fails and is sacked 2. He miraculously achieves a turn around ( like Corberan) and is told to get back in his box when he asks for the board to back his success in the transfer market, and leaves. The board will then blame him ( like they did Corberan ) for abandoning a successful club hahahahaha. The board is a joke. Too many suits achieving not very much on big salaries and patting each other on the back. And all Hoyle wants is his money back. Good luck with that. The ‘board’? It’s just Hoyle, Anne Hough and DTS. How can that be too many suits?
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Oct 2, 2022 10:13:01 GMT 1
That new manager bounce, eh? We couldn’t even manage a dead cat bounce.
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Post by stinkypete on Oct 2, 2022 10:17:35 GMT 1
My interest returned slightly after we sacked Schofield as I thought the club would surely go out and employ a manager this time. Again, they’ve done it on the cheap and they’ll get what we deserve this season I reckon. It’s almost as though Bromby and Hoyle are now doing things to spite the fans, I actually think they have no respect for the fans of this club. I think all we wanted was a manager who has actually managed a game of football at this level or at least coached at this level or above. I’m not having Fotheringham’s CV , a few months at Herta Berlin doesn’t cut it. Hope im totally wrong but not getting a good vibe from this at all. Does make you wonder if the players were expecting Wagner and now Cracker has turned up they’re like “who the hell is this guy?”
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Post by thesherburnwarrior on Oct 2, 2022 10:23:08 GMT 1
+been watching town 50 years before anybody jumps on the ive seen worse than that,band wagon,well so have i but not alot worse.yesterday was a day for the players to get behind the new manager never mind the fans and yet again they proved to be spineless,gutless and not up for the fight.spin it how you like since hoyle as come back the heart and soul of the club as gone.signing such inept players because there cheap option and selling the better player.i agree in selling the better players if they want to leave so obrien and toff going was always going to happen but to try replace with the complete shite show we have now is inexcusable from hoyle and bromby.pathetic town and yes i will be there to support the club and get behind them but that doesnt mean i have to lick the clubs arse because they have messed up big time and believe me this team is going down its awful
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Post by detox on Oct 2, 2022 10:23:54 GMT 1
to sum up the many comments then...
We have an error riddled goalie We are crap at the back We have no midfield We are crap up front We have a crap manager We have a crap owner.
Did I miss anything ?
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Post by thesherburnwarrior on Oct 2, 2022 10:25:15 GMT 1
to sum up the many comments then... We have an error riddled goalie We are crap at the back We have no midfield We are crap up front We have a crap manager We have a crap owner. Did I miss anything ? nope u nailed it
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Post by detox on Oct 2, 2022 10:26:48 GMT 1
+been watching town 50 years before anybody jumps on the ive seen worse than that,band wagon,well so have i but not alot worse.yesterday was a day for the players to get behind the new manager never mind the fans and yet again they proved to be spineless,gutless and not up for the fight.spin it how you like since hoyle as come back the heart and soul of the club as gone.signing such inept players because there cheap option and selling the better player.i agree in selling the better players if they want to leave so obrien and toff going was always going to happen but to try replace with the complete shite show we have now is inexcusable from hoyle and bromby.pathetic town and yes i will be there to support the club and get behind them but that doesnt mean i have to lick the clubs arse because they have messed up big time and believe me this team is going down its awful Dean running the club like the bargain basement card factory.. We'll soon be in the basement (league 2) it seems...but making a profit ?
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Post by detox on Oct 2, 2022 10:29:44 GMT 1
Can’t be judged on today or Tuesday or next Sun Needs time - agree But unfortunately for him that’s one thing he doesn’t have given he’s a nobody appointment - fans need to have something to cling to even if results aren’t there I don’t agree with the point re low confidence - we won our last game! He’s not helped himself by coming across as billy big bollocks from his 9 games as assistant at Hertha, talk of full throttle football - If you talk that you need to deliver quick! Not helped himself dropping Camara - either suggests he hasn’t watch the last game (unlikely), poor decision of wants to show whose in charge… either way a daft move I said in an earlier post, this guy can obviously talk the talk given the number of clubs he's been at, but given he never stayed more than a few months at most of them suggests he can't walk the walk...
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Post by stinkypete on Oct 2, 2022 10:41:11 GMT 1
+been watching town 50 years before anybody jumps on the ive seen worse than that,band wagon,well so have i but not alot worse.yesterday was a day for the players to get behind the new manager never mind the fans and yet again they proved to be spineless,gutless and not up for the fight.spin it how you like since hoyle as come back the heart and soul of the club as gone.signing such inept players because there cheap option and selling the better player.i agree in selling the better players if they want to leave so obrien and toff going was always going to happen but to try replace with the complete shite show we have now is inexcusable from hoyle and bromby.pathetic town and yes i will be there to support the club and get behind them but that doesnt mean i have to lick the clubs arse because they have messed up big time and believe me this team is going down its awful Dean running the club like the bargain basement card factory.. We'll soon be in the basement (league 2) it seems...but making a profit ? He’ll love it down there playing Billy big bollcks again, be able to buy a round in at Leyton Orient again and go “ look at me” .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2022 10:42:50 GMT 1
Looks like this thread is longer than the Cardiff one.
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Post by Jello Biafra on Oct 2, 2022 11:54:39 GMT 1
Looks like this thread is longer than the Cardiff one. Yeah - great to see all those names missing from the Cardiff thread have suddenly remembered to post this week.
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Post by jjamez on Oct 2, 2022 12:14:50 GMT 1
Another howler by Nicholls btw. He's making far too many mistakes. I guess in that split second he thought it was back pass and that he couldn’t pick up. However, to simply let it though his hands was dreadful. It was one of many poor decisions made by so many. They are clearly lacking confidence. It’s way too early to be blaming the manager. The players have to look at themselves. Sorba put some real quality crosses into the box but Rhodes and Ward got nowhere near them. At least he played him on the right which is where he is more effective. Turton and lees still looked solid. Yuto and Helik did not. Russell to slow and just can’t run. Kasumu worked hard and did his job. Holmes was anonymous. Rudhoni again nice touches at times but zero end product. Nichols has no competition for his place and it clearly shows. We are in big trouble and it’s all down to lack of investment. Quality investment not potential from league one. I temper is losing 3-0 to Yeovil away on sky. The pundit said “the difference is Yeovil have championship quality players, Huddersfield do not “. We are back there I’m afraid. On the sorba crosses, there was a couple yesterday he whipped in well, but they were well behind Rhodes and ward from what I saw. They may have been good for someone attacking from outside the box or may be off the left wing. As for nicholls, I think last season when he had Blackman in reserve, yes he was a bit indifferent when he played, but he was more than capable and pushed nicholls, something I don't think the back up kids are able to do just yet. In terms of midfield, you've got to go with camara and kasumu as a 2 or put Hogg in-between them as a 3- probably away from home more than at home. In defence we really miss Pearson, he may be limited but he leads, organises and reads the game better than lees I feel.
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