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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 4, 2022 22:02:46 GMT 1
I've seen absolutely nothing from KKH to say he should play Let's ask 3Pipe about him 🤭 The one thing he was required to do tonight he did remarkably well, I thought. I did have my eye on him, couldn't find fault in his 5 minute cameo tbf. |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 4, 2022 22:03:49 GMT 1
Take that. That's a win without Mbete being a numpty. Really ? He was shite but he’s not the only problem is he |
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Oct 4, 2022 22:04:18 GMT 1
Sorba’s delivery being back is a massive bonus for us. If we can lock up the back, we will score goals even if it’s just from set pieces.
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 4, 2022 22:04:20 GMT 1
Best thing about the result tonight was that it's totally trashed Alan Nixon's betting slip.
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Post by rockwall on Oct 4, 2022 22:04:46 GMT 1
Let's ask 3Pipe about him 🤭 The one thing he was required to do tonight he did remarkably well, I thought. I did have my eye on him, couldn't find fault in his 5 minute cameo tbf. He did well tonight when coming on. Genuinely think criticism has been harsh. Played very well V Stoke. At fault for goal V Blackpool, but he should not have been put in that position from our own corner. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Oct 4, 2022 22:04:50 GMT 1
160 out of 185 people thought we would lose tonight so it’s a great point.
I thought we would get hammered so good to see that we scored some goals and fought back after going behind.
The fight is there and when we find our best starting XI and get some confidence the quality of football will improve too.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 4, 2022 22:05:17 GMT 1
How long until Pearson is back? And also Simpson? Hopefully he’ll give us something different up front. We’ve been a bit of a one trick pony for a few seasons in that position. |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 4, 2022 22:05:24 GMT 1
Take that. That's a win without Mbete being a numpty. Really ? He was shite but he’s not the only problem is he Take it you didn't manage to watch the match? He was the ONLY problem tonight. |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Oct 4, 2022 22:05:42 GMT 1
160 out of 185 people thought we would lose tonight so it’s a great point.
I thought we would get hammered so good to see that we scored some goals and fought back after going behind.
The fight is there and when we find our best starting XI and get some confidence the quality of football will improve too.
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Post by mrbluesky on Oct 4, 2022 22:06:26 GMT 1
Quite a few positives and offensively we were decent , really liking the pairing of Kasumu and Camara They looked like they owned the midfield at times and for such young players this is very encouraging.
Ben Jackson did well and linked up with Thomas in a more positive way allowing Sorba the opportunities to get balls in to the box.
Team wise I thought we were decent but again individual defensive errors cost us.
Good point though that gives us something to build upon
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Post by jakeg on Oct 4, 2022 22:06:36 GMT 1
Much much better defending second half....didn't really give them much. Still struggling to create much in open play but some better signs but a long way to go. Please can we moderate the language a bit on Mbete. Yes that was horrible first half for him but he's 18 and trying to.make his way. It looks to be too big a step at the moment for him but let's not demonise him It's okay, he is only 18, his mum might give him a cuddle and tell him everything will be okay. The lad has literally been woeful. 18 or not, got to accept it. He will take all the praise he can gets in his career, got to take the shit (rightfully so) too. Yes he has....but completely disagree that grown adults (physically if not mentally)launch into a young lad with some of this language. It's not just him...its part of the Internet culture I understand that but dont have to like it. He didn't try to be awful in the first half. So let's say he play badly - in this case very badly. I would prefer not to call him out as a person or try to destroy him. That feels like entitlement from some.....how dare he come to our club and play badly. He must be a terrible.person who deserves to be called out as not worthy of gracing the same oxygen. To be clear unless we can work with him.and quickly in training he should probably go back for his own sake |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Oct 4, 2022 22:07:15 GMT 1
No idea where people are getting a “much improved” performance from tbh. Very ineffective, lacking creativity, only producing from set pieces yet again. Keep playing like this and we’ll be down. We were utterly toothless against Reading and we've scored three today, that's an improvement. We've got a draw against a top 10 side, that's an improvement. Keep improving like that and we'll stay up. You miserable bugger. Its my honest opinion of the game tonight. Do you think how we continuously give the ball away and create next to nothing apart from set pieces will see us safe? I don’t. Positive for me is that a few players seemed to be putting more of a shift in, which is good to see, but I just can’t see any quality there. |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Oct 4, 2022 22:09:16 GMT 1
Really ? He was shite but he’s not the only problem is he Take it you didn't manage to watch the match? He was the ONLY problem tonight. Yeah I watched it did you some lovely chances created from open play very poor both teams but that’s the championship nowadays rubbish but a point is a point but if you think there’s no problems out there christ |
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Post by terriers2000 on Oct 4, 2022 22:09:38 GMT 1
turton is awful , if he cleared the ballat the end rather than messing around, kasumu wouldn't of had to made that challenge, too week, never goes up for the ball; KKH all day long over him Wow. Get yourself to bed lad and sleep it off. cheers pal will do |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 4, 2022 22:10:06 GMT 1
I'm desperate to see the Examiner player ratings, just to see what Mbete gets. I'm guessing Steve Chicken gives him a 5 so as not to upset the club. Gives him 2, Sorba gets top mark with 8 |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 4, 2022 22:10:55 GMT 1
The team are fighting for us. That was a brawl with a rough team and some of those young lads (Camara & Mbete) won’t have experienced anything like that before.
We need to have 3 at the back, we were too open there.
Turton was just what we needed second half, got really stuck in and won lots of challenges.
We played some good one touch football but we’re still barely having a shot.
MF has had some pelters on here but that performance had far more passion, drive and energy than Blackpool and Wigan. The pressure is huge and it’s an unforgiving situation, but it’s moving in the right direction.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Oct 4, 2022 22:10:55 GMT 1
The one thing he was required to do tonight he did remarkably well, I thought. I did have my eye on him, couldn't find fault in his 5 minute cameo tbf. He did well tonight when coming on. Genuinely think criticism has been harsh. Played very well V Stoke. At fault for goal V Blackpool, but he should not have been put in that position from our own corner. About 5 mins before there was a big groan that went up as he opted to back pass to Nicholls, when supporters felt he couldve gone forwards. The ball he lost leading to Blackpool's goal, shouldve been sent to Row Z but I think he heard the moans before and didn't want to get the same reaction. Hes a youngster but it was a lesson for him. |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 4, 2022 22:11:11 GMT 1
Just watched the first goal. Wow. Talk about schoolboy play. He literally stepped off the lad and let him turn. If you were horrified by that one, I suggest the other two will give you nightmares. I've watched a reasonable amount of National League football as my father in law's side of the family support Bromley & one of my best mates supports Halifax. Mbete's decent enough on the ball but unless he had someone really solid alongside him I wouldn't even be confident in him at that level. It's weird because physically he's strong enough & he can control a ball. It's like he's a player with natural talent in his feet, but a really poor understanding of the game. The lad can pass, but he's caught out SO easily it's embarrassing. One of those players who could be Championship level in a few years, or could find himself unable to get a professional contract at any level as soon as his contract at MCFC runs out. If he's still here on 2nd January then it must mean our fax machine is broken because he is so far from being ready for this level it's embarrassing. |
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Post by morrisraspass on Oct 4, 2022 22:11:54 GMT 1
We were utterly toothless against Reading and we've scored three today, that's an improvement. We've got a draw against a top 10 side, that's an improvement. Keep improving like that and we'll stay up. You miserable bugger. Its my honest opinion of the game tonight. Do you think how we continuously give the ball away and create next to nothing apart from set pieces will see us safe? I don’t. Positive for me is that a few players seemed to be putting more of a shift in, which is good to see, but I just can’t see any quality there. No, continuously giving the ball away won't see us safe. But that wasn't what you said in your first post, which was that you didn't see any improvement. Whereas I thought we were improved tonight. Lots to work on, but steps in the right direction |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 4, 2022 22:12:56 GMT 1
It's okay, he is only 18, his mum might give him a cuddle and tell him everything will be okay. The lad has literally been woeful. 18 or not, got to accept it. He will take all the praise he can gets in his career, got to take the shit (rightfully so) too. Agree totally....when you are at one of if not the best club side in the world never mind country then with it comes a strong expectation to deliver uber consistently. Hes young and come to get experience here but looks well short of our level never mind top flight right now. Hopefully its a blip and he shows some real quality soon like colwill did last term. He looks like he's going to fall over when he runs. A clear example of a player looking good at youth level because he is bigger and stronger than other kids. Stick him in a mans game and he isn't up to it |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 4, 2022 22:13:51 GMT 1
Not the worst defender that played for us tonight.. TBH he doesn't look up to it either & whatever our scouts saw in him I haven't seen it yet, but even so he has to jump ahead of Mbete in the pecking order. |
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Post by jakeg on Oct 4, 2022 22:14:08 GMT 1
We were utterly toothless against Reading and we've scored three today, that's an improvement. We've got a draw against a top 10 side, that's an improvement. Keep improving like that and we'll stay up. You miserable bugger. Its my honest opinion of the game tonight. Do you think how we continuously give the ball away and create next to nothing apart from set pieces will see us safe? I don’t. Positive for me is that a few players seemed to be putting more of a shift in, which is good to see, but I just can’t see any quality there. But that's exactly where we are right now....and we can debate for hours why. But what we need now is that commitment, putting a shift in, structure. Then try and build in some quality. But first we need to stabilise before we free fall. For that there are positives. Defensively though (and not about mbete) we just need to sometimes.do what kasumu had to near the end and take the card, take the foul and stop the threat. Third goal wasn't mbetes fault....player should have been no where near our goal |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 4, 2022 22:14:19 GMT 1
Much improved I thought tonight in many ways and credit where credit is due we tried to play at a good pace. Better team selection, minus mbete but even MF was probably taken a back by just how poor he was. One thing I think we badly need to succeed in this new style though is pace across the team as it’s a very open formation and direct, as opposed to the conservative stuff under Carlos. We certainly needed some pace up top as an outlet today as wards and Rhodes were no where near balls into the box or over the top and offered very little movement despite trying hard That the problem, no pace and no power and the transfer window is months away. Simpson looks like he’ll give us some of that but he’s a way off yet. |
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 4, 2022 22:15:42 GMT 1
Camara is excellent isn’t he? Kasumu played pretty well too and think he was left with little choice with the second foul. Thomas was better tonight too. Turton decent when he came on. Jackson did well enough. Holmes tried to get forward and create things. Those are the positives. Good point, but still a lot of work to do.
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Post by sonny on Oct 4, 2022 22:16:33 GMT 1
Highlights up on Sky. Town's third looks very much like a Mpanzu own goal.
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 4, 2022 22:16:53 GMT 1
We were utterly toothless against Reading and we've scored three today, that's an improvement. We've got a draw against a top 10 side, that's an improvement. Keep improving like that and we'll stay up. You miserable bugger. Its my honest opinion of the game tonight. Do you think how we continuously give the ball away and create next to nothing apart from set pieces will see us safe? I don’t. Positive for me is that a few players seemed to be putting more of a shift in, which is good to see, but I just can’t see any quality there. I agree with you. It was a marginal improvement from Saturday, because we didn’t lose. I just can’t see us beating many teams because we can’t defend and we’re just lacking any sort of quality in the final third. I’ve seen nothing which makes me think there are 3 teams worse than us. This result papers over a few cracks I feel, I hope I’m wrong and it is the kick start to our season. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 4, 2022 22:16:56 GMT 1
It's a step in the right direction but it's important we're above Hull after Sunday's game.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Oct 4, 2022 22:17:06 GMT 1
I'm desperate to see the Examiner player ratings, just to see what Mbete gets. I'm guessing Steve Chicken gives him a 5 so as not to upset the club. Gives him 2, Sorba gets top mark with 8 Jeeps 2 sounds really harsh. But its hard to argue against it. I know I shouldn't feel sorry for Mbete. He's a professional footballer, contracted to Man City, probably earning about three times as much in a week as I do per month... and hes only 18. But he is only 18. I think this is a difficult assignment for him, coming into mens football and he looks really nervous, needs to use his physicality more and get abit more intelligent when it comes to gamesmanship, couldve easily 'earnt'a foul for Lutons second goal, just move into Adebayos path wait for him to run into him and go down like a sack of shit. Or he could have used his physicality and just cleared the ball. Still got question marks about Helik to be honest too. Anyone known hen Pearson is fit? Both may benefit from games with two no nonesense and experienced defenders in Lees and Pearson at the side of them. |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 4, 2022 22:18:07 GMT 1
No idea where people are getting a “much improved” performance from tbh. Very ineffective, lacking creativity, only producing from set pieces yet again. Keep playing like this and we’ll be down. We competed. Perhaps that's an indication of how bad things have got but that was a notable step up. It doesn't feel as toxic as it did. Granted, the pen was harsh on Luton & they can probably feel aggrieved at a few decisions here & there & overall I was glad of the point, but that looked like a side fighting for each other. If you have that, you have a chance. It might be that at the end of the season we look at that game as one where we say that was one of the better performances in our relegation season, or it might be the start of us turning the corner. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Oct 4, 2022 22:18:54 GMT 1
How long until Pearson is back? And also Simpson? Hopefully he’ll give us something different up front. We’ve been a bit of a one trick pony for a few seasons in that position. Think we might need to lower expectations a bit. He has played in league two and wasn't being selected in league one. I'd be amazed if he has an impact this season |
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