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Post by specialun on Oct 4, 2022 22:19:06 GMT 1
Take that - hard place to go, credit for sticking with it at 3-2 down
Looks like 2 own goals (?) & a pen - not had that sort of rub of green since last season - still don’t get them without excellent balls in the first place, credit to Thomas. All our goals resulted from set pieces
Their 3rd goal half the team should stop!
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 4, 2022 22:19:28 GMT 1
If we start with the back 4 we had in the 2nd half we win the game. Simple as that really.
Im struggling to recall a centre back as calamitous as Mbete has been in his brief time at this club.
Might be wrong but I make that 5 goals that you can put directly down to him already.
He looks utterly out of his depth in every conceivable way. How he has got where he has at a club like Man City is beyond me. We obviously arent seeing the player they think they have.
The first tonight shows a real lack of technique in how to defend that situation, The second just showed terrible physical weakness and the third showed terrible agility.
Other than him it was a decent if scrappy performance against a tough opponent on their own patch. Well deserved point and in Jackson we've unearthed another good option.
So IMO theres more positives than negatives to take back home after that.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Oct 4, 2022 22:19:58 GMT 1
Its my honest opinion of the game tonight. Do you think how we continuously give the ball away and create next to nothing apart from set pieces will see us safe? I don’t. Positive for me is that a few players seemed to be putting more of a shift in, which is good to see, but I just can’t see any quality there. I agree with you. It was a marginal improvement from Saturday, because we didn’t lose. I just can’t see us beating many teams because we can’t defend and we’re just lacking any sort of quality in the final third. I’ve seen nothing which makes me think there are 3 teams worse than us. This result papers over a few cracks I feel, I hope I’m wrong and it is the kick start to our season. Exactly this. I can’t really get optimistic about Tino coming back, because he’s shown this season he will turn up when he wants. So without him, who do we have with match winning/chance creating quality? |
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 4, 2022 22:20:03 GMT 1
I only watched on ifollow tonight but the intensity was miles better than Saturday.
Thought the two in central mid gave us much more pace and aggression.
Mbete though. ? Wouldn’t get a game in the district league. How many goals is he going to cost us before we send him back???
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Post by sonny on Oct 4, 2022 22:20:27 GMT 1
Camara is excellent isn’t he? Kasumu played pretty well too and think he was left with little choice with the second foul. Thomas was better tonight too. Turton decent when he came on. Jackson did well enough. Holmes tried to get forward and create things. Those are the positives. Good point, but still a lot of work to do. We desperately need a striker who can win his fair share of challenges, hold the ball up and unsettle defenders. Rhodes has never been this player and now offers little. Ward wins virtually nothing apart from the occasional and usually pointless flick. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 4, 2022 22:20:30 GMT 1
Its my honest opinion of the game tonight. Do you think how we continuously give the ball away and create next to nothing apart from set pieces will see us safe? I don’t. Positive for me is that a few players seemed to be putting more of a shift in, which is good to see, but I just can’t see any quality there. But that's exactly where we are right now....and we can debate for hours why. But what we need now is that commitment, putting a shift in, structure. Then try and build in some quality. But first we need to stabilise before we free fall. For that there are positives. Defensively though (and not about mbete) we just need to sometimes.do what kasumu had to near the end and take the card, take the foul and stop the threat. Third goal wasn't mbetes fault....player should have been no where near our goal That third goal, when Bree drags it inside there a couple of players that could’ve knocked him over and it wouldn’t even have been a yellow. |
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Post by waggers on Oct 4, 2022 22:20:47 GMT 1
160 out of 185 people thought we would lose tonight so it’s a great point. I thought we would get hammered so good to see that we scored some goals and fought back after going behind. The fight is there and when we find our best starting XI and get some confidence the quality of football will improve too. I said early on in the game it might be that the method going forward is to outscore our opponents instead of sitting back. If we can just add and maintain a bit of fight that will do me. A point away at Luton didn't seem in any way possible to me tonight so I'm very pleased with that. |
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Post by jakeg on Oct 4, 2022 22:21:24 GMT 1
Gives him 2, Sorba gets top mark with 8 Jeeps 2 sounds really harsh. But its hard to argue against it. I know I shouldn't feel sorry for Mbete. He's a professional footballer, contracted to Man City, probably earning about twice as much in a week as I do per month... and hes only 18. But he is only 18. I think this is a difficult assignment for him, coming into mens football and he looks really nervous, needs to use his physicality more and get abit more intelligent when it comes to gamesmanship, couldve easily 'earnt'a foul for Lutons second goal, just move into Adebayos path wait for him to run into him and go down like a sack of shit. Completely agree....compare to colwill last season and he would have. That's not to say which player will have the better career....just that colwill was ready for the championship and it looks a really stretch for Mbete....maturing and learning at different rates |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 4, 2022 22:21:44 GMT 1
And also Simpson? Hopefully he’ll give us something different up front. We’ve been a bit of a one trick pony for a few seasons in that position. Think we might need to lower expectations a bit. He has played in league two and wasn't being selected in league one. I'd be amazed if he has an impact this season Not getting selected in League 1 had nothing to do with his ability |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 4, 2022 22:23:16 GMT 1
The only way to assess him is to play him (mbete). Overall I thought we showed a high level of commitment and has most have said far better result than anyone expected. Does MF keep his job. You can assess players in training as well. I can only assume he looks shit hot in training because he is consistently embarrassing at this level. |
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 4, 2022 22:23:40 GMT 1
I agree with you. It was a marginal improvement from Saturday, because we didn’t lose. I just can’t see us beating many teams because we can’t defend and we’re just lacking any sort of quality in the final third. I’ve seen nothing which makes me think there are 3 teams worse than us. This result papers over a few cracks I feel, I hope I’m wrong and it is the kick start to our season. Exactly this. I can’t really get optimistic about Tino coming back, because he’s shown this season he will turn up when he wants. So without him, who do we have with match winning/chance creating quality? Even when he’s available he’s only got a good 50/60 minutes in him before he’s blowing out of his arse. |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 4, 2022 22:24:04 GMT 1
Take that. That's a win without Mbete being a numpty. Really ? He was shite but he’s not the only problem is he He was by some distance the biggest one tonight. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Oct 4, 2022 22:24:17 GMT 1
Sorba’s delivery being back is a massive bonus for us. If we can lock up the back, we will score goals even if it’s just from set pieces. If we score a barrowload from set pieces Waterloo and it propelles Town up the table towards safety then I’ll be as happy as a pig in sh#t... It’s probably something we’ve been lacking in The Championship and a welcome addition to our goalscoring armoury - Delighted with that unexpected (for me anyway) point tonight - delighted for the players, delighted for the fans that travelled and those watching or listening at home, but especially delighted for ma fellow Scottish blood brother Mark Fotheringham whose off the ‘Mark’ (pardon the pun) at a difficult venue... Well done Foddy ! 🏴 🥃 🏴 🥃 🏴 |
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Post by johnnyx on Oct 4, 2022 22:25:23 GMT 1
Really thought we were much improved tonight.
Tempo was much quicker and without doubt they were playing for the manager.
Feel much better about our chances of turning things round.
Big shout out to Jackson who was excellent
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 4, 2022 22:27:18 GMT 1
Jackson looks a better option than Ruffels, although he struggled with Onyedinma’s pace and strength. Played well going forward and can be proud of his contribution on his first start.
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 4, 2022 22:27:40 GMT 1
Exactly this. I can’t really get optimistic about Tino coming back, because he’s shown this season he will turn up when he wants. So without him, who do we have with match winning/chance creating quality? Even when he’s available he’s only got a good 50/60 minutes in him before he’s blowing out of his arse. Perhaps, but had he been an option to bring off the bench today I expect we'd have won. He can do things nobody else in the squad can. |
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 4, 2022 22:28:21 GMT 1
Camara is excellent isn’t he? Kasumu played pretty well too and think he was left with little choice with the second foul. Thomas was better tonight too. Turton decent when he came on. Jackson did well enough. Holmes tried to get forward and create things. Those are the positives. Good point, but still a lot of work to do. Starting with Russell is literally the equivalent of starting a game with 10 men. He is utter garbage and needs to be loaned to Halifax where he belongs. |
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Post by Lovechops on Oct 4, 2022 22:32:59 GMT 1
Mbete clearly well thought of - he can’t be this bad But this loan clearly also looks a year early for him physically - get bullied and beaten up and rest of game can go mentally & technically. Fair to say he’s at that point, better taking him out of squad right now Colwill physically superior and his reading of game far more mature beyond his years - future England captain. I said it hundreds of times last season most fans didn’t realise just how good player we had available to us. Now starting to! I saw him play for Man City v Barcelona and he had a good game there so not sure why he’s not playing well |
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 4, 2022 22:35:04 GMT 1
I agree with you. It was a marginal improvement from Saturday, because we didn’t lose. I just can’t see us beating many teams because we can’t defend and we’re just lacking any sort of quality in the final third. I’ve seen nothing which makes me think there are 3 teams worse than us. This result papers over a few cracks I feel, I hope I’m wrong and it is the kick start to our season. Exactly this. I can’t really get optimistic about Tino coming back, because he’s shown this season he will turn up when he wants. So without him, who do we have with match winning/chance creating quality? If it weren't so tragic it would be funny. We were crying, if not screaming out for a striker and we bring an injured one in from Ipswich that won'tbe available until December. The absolute dross in charge of transfers (and hiring head coaches) needs to go and get a job in another industry. His inability to read the room is laughable and now the consequences are showing on the pitch. 3 goals or not we are garbage |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 4, 2022 22:37:06 GMT 1
I’m ever hopeful, but can only see mid table at best this season.
Hopefully we can regain some confidence as we achieve that, but I’m resigned to this being a very fragmented season, which are normally bloody awful.
Anyway, let’s cheer the lads on to 3 points on Sunday and I might revise my views to being in the top half… 😁
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 4, 2022 22:38:36 GMT 1
I’m ever hopeful, but can only see mid table at best this season. Hopefully we can regain some confidence as we achieve that, but I’m resigned to this being a very fragmented season, which are normally bloody awful. Anyway, let’s cheer the lads on to 3 points on Sunday and I might revise my views to being in the top half… 😁 I’d snap your hand off for mid table right now. |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 4, 2022 22:42:09 GMT 1
Given the choice between Betty from Some Mothers Do Have Em and Mbete, then I would choose the former every time. From Colwill to Mbete, what an almighty come down. And given his disastrous performances so far, and especially his impersonation of Coco in that 3rd goal on Saturday, then you have to wonder what MF is seeing in him. Can’t understand what LB has seen in him either to bring him into the club. Terrible lack of judgement from both of them. Colwill was always going to be a tough act to follow. First time I saw him I sat up & took notice. Future England Captain. Genuinely the best (IMO) youth player we've had on loan since Ben Thornley, and has the maturity to go with it. With that in mind I had sympathy for whoever came in after him. A player roughly the same age, in roughly the same situation, in exactly the same position on the pitch. But fuck me sideways, he's terrible. That's not to say he'll never make it as a footballer (although I don't like his chances at his parent club!) but if he needs men's football then for the lad's own sake don't have him in the EFL this season. Probably not next either. |
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Oct 4, 2022 22:43:48 GMT 1
I’m ever hopeful, but can only see mid table at best this season. Hopefully we can regain some confidence as we achieve that, but I’m resigned to this being a very fragmented season, which are normally bloody awful. Anyway, let’s cheer the lads on to 3 points on Sunday and I might revise my views to being in the top half… 😁 I’d snap your hand off for mid table right now. I'd snap the other one |
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Post by Big Ern on Oct 4, 2022 22:43:54 GMT 1
I’m ever hopeful, but can only see mid table at best this season. Hopefully we can regain some confidence as we achieve that, but I’m resigned to this being a very fragmented season, which are normally bloody awful. Anyway, let’s cheer the lads on to 3 points on Sunday and I might revise my views to being in the top half… 😁 I will bare my arse at Castle Hill if we achieve mid table |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 4, 2022 22:44:50 GMT 1
Exactly this. I can’t really get optimistic about Tino coming back, because he’s shown this season he will turn up when he wants. So without him, who do we have with match winning/chance creating quality? If it weren't so tragic it would be funny. We were crying, if not screaming out for a striker and we bring an injured one in from Ipswich that won'tbe available until December. The absolute dross in charge of transfers (and hiring head coaches) needs to go and get a job in another industry. His inability to read the room is laughable and now the consequences are showing on the pitch. 3 goals or not we are garbage Simpson was signed as "one for the future". In much the same way as Sorba Thomas was not ready at Christmas 2021. I'm not expecting great things from him this season even when he's back. Next season, maybe. The season after, I'm quite excited about. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 4, 2022 22:46:00 GMT 1
I’m ever hopeful, but can only see mid table at best this season. Hopefully we can regain some confidence as we achieve that, but I’m resigned to this being a very fragmented season, which are normally bloody awful. Anyway, let’s cheer the lads on to 3 points on Sunday and I might revise my views to being in the top half… 😁 I will bare my arse at Castle Hill if we achieve mid table If I win the bet, just make sure you don’t do that after dusk… 😁 I hear there are a few ‘Terriers’ that enjoy it up there after dark… 🤔 |
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Post by 28901 on Oct 4, 2022 22:46:16 GMT 1
I’m ever hopeful, but can only see mid table at best this season. Hopefully we can regain some confidence as we achieve that, but I’m resigned to this being a very fragmented season, which are normally bloody awful. Anyway, let’s cheer the lads on to 3 points on Sunday and I might revise my views to being in the top half… 😁 Only see mid table? If were outside the bottom 3 I'll be delighted. |
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Post by Tinpot on Oct 4, 2022 22:46:26 GMT 1
Mbete clearly well thought of - he can’t be this bad But this loan clearly also looks a year early for him physically - get bullied and beaten up and rest of game can go mentally & technically. Fair to say he’s at that point, better taking him out of squad right now Colwill physically superior and his reading of game far more mature beyond his years - future England captain. I said it hundreds of times last season most fans didn’t realise just how good player we had available to us. Now starting to! I saw him play for Man City v Barcelona and he had a good game there so not sure why he’s not playing well Wasn't that an exhibition match? |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 4, 2022 22:47:32 GMT 1
I saw him play for Man City v Barcelona and he had a good game there so not sure why he’s not playing well Wasn't that an exhibition match? That would explain the statuesque performance this evening… |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Oct 4, 2022 22:47:50 GMT 1
Sorba’s delivery being back is a massive bonus for us. If we can lock up the back, we will score goals even if it’s just from set pieces. How much will it cost for Bale to come and have a chat with him every week? |
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