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Post by horler1 on Oct 25, 2022 22:40:30 GMT 1
I know it's a bit cheesy but personally I think he made us into more than a football club.
The charity work, the fan memorials, the air ambulance, the honesty. I get the impression some clubs do these things as a publicity stunt, but we genuinely cared.
We became a truly unique club under his leadership and I was/am proud to be a town fan.
Some of the decisions have been questionable and I think we could have had more ambition but ultimately he ran the club properly and I never thought we'd go to the Premier League.
Up The Town and all the best Dean.
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Post by tom1987 on Oct 25, 2022 22:43:50 GMT 1
Thanks for the past 14 years Dean. Although things may not be rosy now, you've done one he'll of a job. Local lad done good.
Thanks for my dream of watching Prem football with my old man a reality. The successful days at Wembley will live long in the memory along with Palace away and beating Man U at home. You transformed the club and Town with your enthusiasm and love for it.
All I ask is for one last favour- please write off the debt. I fear we maybe another Derby if not. Be the local hero one last time.
All the best Deano. Thanks for the journey.
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Post by York Terrier on Oct 25, 2022 22:49:51 GMT 1
Thanks for the past 14 years Dean. Although things may not be rosy now, you've done one he'll of a job. Local lad done good. Thanks for my dream of watching Prem football with my old man a reality. The successful days at Wembley will live long in the memory along with Palace away and beating Man U at home. You transformed the club and Town with your enthusiasm and love for it. All I ask is for one last favour- please write off the debt. I fear we maybe another Derby if not. Be the local hero one last time. All the best Deano. Thanks for the journey. Good post but that’s one heck of a favour and even if he did some people would still belittle everything he has done for Town |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 25, 2022 22:53:23 GMT 1
Good post but that’s one heck of a favour Come on, he did say 'please'.  |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 25, 2022 22:57:13 GMT 1
I must admit, it was a good ride overall.
Full season 1. Playoff semi
Season 2. Playoff final.
Season 3. Playoff winners.
Season 4. Championship survival.
Season 5. Championship survival.
Season 6. Championship survival.
Season 7. Championship survival.
Season 8. Wagner miracle.
Season 9. Wagner miracle.
Season 10. Relegation.
Full season 11. Likely relegation.
But, the ride will likely end with starting next season exactly where he picked us up, only with ten times the debt.
Expensive joy ride by the 'custodian' of the club.
Are we really in a better position than when he took over?
Do we own the training ground? No.
Do we own the stadium? No.
Do we have an academy? No.
Are we likely in deep financial trouble if we get relegated or not? Yes.
Some 'custodian.'
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Post by mrg on Oct 25, 2022 23:00:35 GMT 1
Thanks for the past 14 years Dean. Although things may not be rosy now, you've done one he'll of a job. Local lad done good. Thanks for my dream of watching Prem football with my old man a reality. The successful days at Wembley will live long in the memory along with Palace away and beating Man U at home. You transformed the club and Town with your enthusiasm and love for it. All I ask is for one last favour- please write off the debt. I fear we maybe another Derby if not. Be the local hero one last time. All the best Deano. Thanks for the journey. He'll write it off pal, it's all a tax write off. Ive been saying this for 3 years and ill be shocked if that isn't the case. Today is the day fir thank yous though. Let the new directors deal with all that. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Oct 25, 2022 23:02:39 GMT 1
'Ultimately' how generous of you Thanks. The last few years have been painful to watch what went up come down and whilst achieving the goal of top 30 set out in 2008 not being able to hold it has been disappointing. "Ultimately" i think saying thank you for todays statement after quite a bit of pissing and moaning on my part, especially more recently, is the right thing to do. Along with forgiveness for someone who has the humility to say sorry and wish them well. Theres no need for snarkiness and passive or direct aggression today I reckon. A day to say thank you for whats gone and the statement today. The goal of Top 30 club was set in 2003 by Andrew Watson. |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Oct 25, 2022 23:06:18 GMT 1
I must admit, it was a good ride overall. Full season 1. Playoff semi Season 2. Playoff final. Season 3. Playoff winners. Season 4. Championship survival. Season 5. Championship survival. Season 6. Championship survival. Season 7. Championship survival. Season 8. Wagner miracle. Season 9. Wagner miracle. Season 10. Relegation. Full season 11. Likely relegation. But, the ride will likely end with starting next season exactly where he picked us up, only with ten times the debt. Expensive joy ride by the 'custodian' of the club. Are we really in a better position than when he took over? Do we own the training ground? No. Do we own the stadium? No. Do we have an academy? No. Are we likely in deep financial trouble if we get relegated or not? Yes. Some 'custodian.' Yes we are in a better position. The peppercorn rent paid for Canalside v Storthes Hall is beyond compare The pitch we play on is beyond compare Yes we do have an academy and it it's producing players for the first team Look at the facts before you post conjecture |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 25, 2022 23:09:47 GMT 1
It's funny how people are hoping he'll write off his £40m debt.
Question, how much were we in debt when he took over?
The club got over £200m from our stint in the premier league yet the debt the club owe have increased 10 fold & we're heading back to where we started.
He gave a heartfelt parting message though so no problem 👍
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Post by robinvar on Oct 25, 2022 23:13:38 GMT 1
No debate. The bloke gave me something I never thought I'd ever see, Town in the top flight. Legend.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 25, 2022 23:21:24 GMT 1
Not many clubs are lucky enough to find a multi-millionaire who happens to be a genuine boyhood supporter of the club.
Being a Chairman/woman rarely ends in success at the point they exit the club, so not much of a surprise how things have panned out. Had it not been for the pandemic and PH’s business problems, the handover to another Town fan might have worked, but that’s life…
I doubt we’ll find that same mix simply because they’re a rarity. Hopefully he’ll do his best to make sure the new owner, whenever it happens, has at least some of the characteristics that will maintain Town as a decent and honest club.
UTT!!!
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 25, 2022 23:27:49 GMT 1
I must admit, it was a good ride overall. Full season 1. Playoff semi Season 2. Playoff final. Season 3. Playoff winners. Season 4. Championship survival. Season 5. Championship survival. Season 6. Championship survival. Season 7. Championship survival. Season 8. Wagner miracle. Season 9. Wagner miracle. Season 10. Relegation. Full season 11. Likely relegation. But, the ride will likely end with starting next season exactly where he picked us up, only with ten times the debt. Expensive joy ride by the 'custodian' of the club. Are we really in a better position than when he took over? Do we own the training ground? No. Do we own the stadium? No. Do we have an academy? No. Are we likely in deep financial trouble if we get relegated or not? Yes. Some 'custodian.' Yes we are in a better position. The peppercorn rent paid for Canalside v Storthes Hall is beyond compare The pitch we play on is beyond compare Yes we do have an academy and it it's producing players for the first team Look at the facts before you post conjecture I've looked at the facts. DH doesn't pay for the pitch, KSDL do. The training ground was promised by DH to go into a trust. Never happened. We have under 19/21 development squads, not an academy. We're in nuts deep in debt. Did we owe £40m in debt when he took over? My facts are very different to yours. |
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Post by benhomly on Oct 25, 2022 23:41:15 GMT 1
Yes we are in a better position. The peppercorn rent paid for Canalside v Storthes Hall is beyond compare The pitch we play on is beyond compare Yes we do have an academy and it it's producing players for the first team Look at the facts before you post conjecture I've looked at the facts. DH doesn't pay for the pitch, KSDL do. The training ground was promised by DH to go into a trust. Never happened. We have under 19/21 development squads, not an academy. We're in nuts deep in debt. Did we owe £40m in debt when he took over? My facts are very different to yours. Maybe not the thread to bring this up but was told by the groundsman on a stadium tour during the summer that the pitch will need replacing in the next 12 months at a cost of around half a million. Do KSDL have that kind of money or will that be something else that’s done on the cheap? |
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Post by est1908 on Oct 25, 2022 23:59:18 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 0:11:16 GMT 1
Yes we are in a better position. The peppercorn rent paid for Canalside v Storthes Hall is beyond compare The pitch we play on is beyond compare Yes we do have an academy and it it's producing players for the first team Look at the facts before you post conjecture I've looked at the facts. DH doesn't pay for the pitch, KSDL do. The training ground was promised by DH to go into a trust. Never happened. We have under 19/21 development squads, not an academy. We're in nuts deep in debt. Did we owe £40m in debt when he took over? My facts are very different to yours. You’re just a massive bellend |
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 26, 2022 0:25:26 GMT 1
Yes we are in a better position. The peppercorn rent paid for Canalside v Storthes Hall is beyond compare The pitch we play on is beyond compare Yes we do have an academy and it it's producing players for the first team Look at the facts before you post conjecture I've looked at the facts. DH doesn't pay for the pitch, KSDL do. The training ground was promised by DH to go into a trust. Never happened. We have under 19/21 development squads, not an academy. We're in nuts deep in debt. Did we owe £40m in debt when he took over? My facts are very different to yours. KSLD might own the pitch but id be amazed if they pay for its upkeep. If we were relying on them it would be a mud heap. As far as I know HTFC own Canalside. Dean Hoyle owns the land its on. Its a top class facility whereas we used to change in some portakabins at Storthes hall. We still have an academy. I believe its classed as a level 4 academy. What we had wasnt working for the club. Now it seems to be. yes the debts are bigger,, but before we hadnt been anywhere to build up large debts. regardless of PL spending, just being in the championship means building ups sizeable debts is pretty much inevitable. We could have stayed in league 1 and avoided the big debts if thats preferable. Id add the club now owns 40% of KSDL again, as appose to simply being a tenant of KSDL when Hoyle took over. Id also add the squad we had when Holye took over went on to be sold for an entire £45k. The whole amount raised by Berrett when he left. We currently have a couple of players who will have a transfer value into the many millions in Nicholls and Thomas.. Helik who's just been bought for about £1.3m, Rudini about £800k. A load of kids who's value could potential be very large. As much as some seem ( oddly ) happy to chuck in the towel at this early stage and state we are already doomed to relegation, in truth we are nowhere near that. A week today we could be out of the relegation zone FFS. Some people seem to almost get themselves off on pessimism. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 26, 2022 0:32:31 GMT 1
I've looked at the facts. DH doesn't pay for the pitch, KSDL do. The training ground was promised by DH to go into a trust. Never happened. We have under 19/21 development squads, not an academy. We're in nuts deep in debt. Did we owe £40m in debt when he took over? My facts are very different to yours. You’re just a massive bellend Nothing I've stated is a lie. You might not agree but you've hardly provided a defence, just slinging insults. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Oct 26, 2022 1:14:00 GMT 1
No debate. The bloke gave me something I never thought I'd ever see, Town in the top flight. Legend. Yep - I’m with you robin - I started out supporting Town at the beginning of 1980 and we were in Division 4 (League 2)... From there Town became Champions - a lucky find though they weren’t top when I started out with them. A couple of promotions / relegations etc before Dean took ownership - the local lad and lifelong fan done well dream... He was chairman at ma first Town game live in November 2010 v Exeter City in League 1, a couple of close calls then the magical drama of Wembley v Sheffield which I still remember like yesterday and often fondly watch the shoot out - a couple of seasons in the Championship a couple of managers came and went then bingo - TOWN HIT THE JACKPOT ! - What a time to be alive as a Terrier ! - Dean’s emotion was there for all to see at Wembley v Reading for sure... another night of drama v Chelsea to keep our Premier League status... wow just wow ! Ok inevitably relegation followed, he sold the club (well mostly) and yes there have been a few disastrous managerial appointments that have been costly in wasting money and costly in pay offs - everybody makes mistakes - Dean just showed human error like all us very mortals... Then Covid and it’s awful effects on Phil and his business and Dean rode to the immediate rescue off the pitch... Like robin - Thank you so much for the awesome dreams you gave me as a Huddersfield Town fan... Have a great retirement from HTAFC, thanks for that T-shirt and trainer you signed when I met yourself and Janet after the 1-1 draw with Man Utd in 2019... Treat yourself to some fine malt whisky (preferably Islay ones) when you retire and all the very best to yourself and Janet and your family always ! Slainte Math ! (Gaelic for good health and cheers) From Westie - |
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Post by impact on Oct 26, 2022 1:24:51 GMT 1
I must admit, it was a good ride overall. Full season 1. Playoff semi Season 2. Playoff final. Season 3. Playoff winners. Season 4. Championship survival. Season 5. Championship survival. Season 6. Championship survival. Season 7. Championship survival. Season 8. Wagner miracle. Season 9. Wagner miracle. Season 10. Relegation. Full season 11. Likely relegation. But, the ride will likely end with starting next season exactly where he picked us up, only with ten times the debt. Expensive joy ride by the 'custodian' of the club. Are we really in a better position than when he took over? Do we own the training ground? No. Do we own the stadium? No. Do we have an academy? No. Are we likely in deep financial trouble if we get relegated or not? Yes. Some 'custodian.' Do we have a training ground that is an actual professional facility and isn't just portacabins? Yes. Do we have a stadium with grass on it rather than just mud? Yes. Have we seen a big improvement in general facilities around the stadium? Yes. Do we have a team, no matter how bad this year has been, who are well above the likes of Luke Beckett, Malvin Kamara and Jon Worthington? By a country mile, yes. Do we have more fans coming in every week? Yes. Comfortably. Do we have to look back 40 years for the last time we were in the top flight? No. Have we made huge strides in the community, done great deeds for charity and improved the lives of people around Huddersfield? Yes. Do we have strong commercial income coming into the club each year? Yes. If you cant see how were in a better position now then frankly, you're in Cloud Cookoo Land. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 26, 2022 7:38:37 GMT 1
In general, would you consider yourself to be a happy person? I posted that before realising he had a statement. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 26, 2022 7:41:22 GMT 1
I think he took us on one hell of a journey. I never thought I would ever see us in the premier league. He made that happen.
Sadly he leaves us in a mess. Debt, inferior squad, we don’t own anything apart from some very average players.
I wish for him he could have left us in a better position. I’m sure he does well.
Utt
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Post by benhomly on Oct 26, 2022 8:03:29 GMT 1
I've looked at the facts. DH doesn't pay for the pitch, KSDL do. The training ground was promised by DH to go into a trust. Never happened. We have under 19/21 development squads, not an academy. We're in nuts deep in debt. Did we owe £40m in debt when he took over? My facts are very different to yours. KSLD might own the pitch but id be amazed if they pay for its upkeep. If we were relying on them it would be a mud heap. As far as I know HTFC own Canalside. Dean Hoyle owns the land its on. Its a top class facility whereas we used to change in some portakabins at Storthes hall. We still have an academy. I believe its classed as a level 4 academy. What we had wasnt working for the club. Now it seems to be. yes the debts are bigger,, but before we hadnt been anywhere to build up large debts. regardless of PL spending, just being in the championship means building ups sizeable debts is pretty much inevitable. We could have stayed in league 1 and avoided the big debts if thats preferable. Id add the club now owns 40% of KSDL again, as appose to simply being a tenant of KSDL when Hoyle took over. Id also add the squad we had when Holye took over went on to be sold for an entire £45k. The whole amount raised by Berrett when he left. We currently have a couple of players who will have a transfer value into the many millions in Nicholls and Thomas.. Helik who's just been bought for about £1.3m, Rudini about £800k. A load of kids who's value could potential be very large. As much as some seem ( oddly ) happy to chuck in the towel at this early stage and state we are already doomed to relegation, in truth we are nowhere near that. A week today we could be out of the relegation zone FFS. Some people seem to almost get themselves off on pessimism. Was thinking on my way into work who our next Grant/O'Brien might be and concluded that at this moment in time we don't have one. Both Nicholls and Thomas have suffered significant drops in form this season and if the team and they don't get it back then I don't see either of them going for 'many millions', more like £1.5m each tops to top half Championship sides which will set us back significantly in our plan of buy them cheap and sell them on for mega bucks. If we do stop up and push on again next season then they may well be worth many millions but we're a long way off that I think. Plenty of youngsters who may generate that kind of income for the club in the future but again we're a few years from that potential to come to fruition, if at all. If the ownership doesn't get sorted quickly which should inject some much needed positivity into the club then this feels like one of those inevitable relegation seasons; and I've seen and felt plenty of those in my 51 years of being a Town fan. I still think we have the players capable but we lack the leadership both on and off the pitch at this moment in time and that's crucial. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Oct 26, 2022 8:17:03 GMT 1
I must admit, it was a good ride overall. Full season 1. Playoff semi Season 2. Playoff final. Season 3. Playoff winners. Season 4. Championship survival. Season 5. Championship survival. Season 6. Championship survival. Season 7. Championship survival. Season 8. Wagner miracle. Season 9. Wagner miracle. Season 10. Relegation. Full season 11. Likely relegation. But, the ride will likely end with starting next season exactly where he picked us up, only with ten times the debt. Expensive joy ride by the 'custodian' of the club. Are we really in a better position than when he took over? Do we own the training ground? No. Do we own the stadium? No. Do we have an academy? No. Are we likely in deep financial trouble if we get relegated or not? Yes. Some 'custodian.' From a specific football fan viewpoint, this decade you have itemised above is quite unbelievable to be honest and we have have felt more football emotion during this time than a lot of clubs do in a century. And some of us have been lucky enough to witness it all. Given the fact watching sport is a hobby for most of us, we have had our monies worth and more. So for that reason, I feel Dean was more of a director than custodian, not in a literal sense. Why some fans get their knickers in a twist over the financial aspect, which you have zero control over, I don’t know. So what if we are in financial trouble, so what if we move around the divisions for a few years, so what if we own/don’t own x,y and z, so what if we start again with nothing. Football is a simple release away from day to day life for many people, it’s a healthy diversion. You choose a club and that’s that. You stick by the club no matter what. If we are playing City or Halifax, it’s all a cycle. |
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Post by floydy on Oct 26, 2022 8:37:09 GMT 1
It's a thankless job owning a club the size of Town where expectations often run wild. Dean Hoyle has in my opinion always done his best to provide a Club and a team we can be proud of. I am sure we will attract another good owner and I look forward to supporting the Club regardless. First watched Town in 1960 and have lots of great memories.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2022 8:38:35 GMT 1
If you think our current position is chaos you either haven’t been watching Town very long or you have a very selective memory. It is a really tough job. He had a lot of things stacked against him when he took over given the way the club had been run by previous owners. He put a huge amount of effort and his own money into making us better in as many ways as he could. Given the shares issue, KDSL stadium management, how low I think we all felt and I’m sure plenty of behind the scenes issues, he put a huge amount of effort into getting the club on a secure footing. He achieved some incredible things along the way. His will be a tenure long remembered, for all the right reasons. |
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Post by irverino on Oct 26, 2022 9:30:14 GMT 1
If you think our current position is chaos you either haven’t been watching Town very long or you have a very selective memory. It is a really tough job. He had a lot of things stacked against him when he took over given the way the club had been run by previous owners. He put a huge amount of effort and his own money into making us better in as many ways as he could. Given the shares issue, KDSL stadium management, how low I think we all felt and I’m sure plenty of behind the scenes issues, he put a huge amount of effort into getting the club on a secure footing. He achieved some incredible things along the way. His will be a tenure long remembered, for all the right reasons. Well said, if the players were to put a small percentage of the effort DH has put in over the years, then we will finish mid-table comfortably.........starting this weekend & taming the Lions. |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Oct 26, 2022 9:33:18 GMT 1
Many thanks Dean. You put your heart and soul into HTFC and I for one will always be grateful for that.
Best of luck for good health in the future mate.
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Post by ritchie on Oct 26, 2022 9:39:50 GMT 1
There will always be stuff to moan about as a fan, times when you dont agree with the decisions or want that bit more. I think he's made some bad decisions since the PL.
There are also some sides to his character which dont always make him likeable, but they are likely what has made him succesful enough to be in a position to start this journey in the first place
We are all frustrated with the current position and the failure to capitalise on the PL. I wish as much for Dean that he was leaving with that legacy. I'm sure he regrets that - and I feel his statement is his most obvious admission of guilt we've had. it removes some of the sour taste. We all make mistakes. Part of me wonders if he might cancel the debt, have a clean break
Really wish he'd have actioned this after the playoff defeat though. It might not have made any difference, but this timing is horrendous
All said, its been a fantastic tenure, and where ever we are in 20 years time, it wont be our current situation I remember... it will be Rhodes heading in at southend, away day pints, charity events, 7-1s, leeds, villa, brighton, wembley, palace, man u next to my old man.. city, chelsea
Thanks for the memories Dean, i'd always shake your hand and buy you a beer
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Post by ralphadonna on Oct 26, 2022 10:01:50 GMT 1
Do you think he will be commemorated by fans at next game or his last game (I.e. flags etc. from cowshed end) or are things too flat / sour at the minute?
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Post by calken on Oct 26, 2022 10:14:54 GMT 1
I want DannyG to start doing cartoons again - not of games, but DATM threads.
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