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Post by sabailand on Mar 23, 2023 14:20:48 GMT 1
Whats always made me laugh from time to time on here about D H is when hes been accused of not being a fan, grade A utter rubbish, he supported them at school and has ever since, enough to plough millions into the club, and all the behind closed doors stuff which we know only a fraction of (and which has been proven in recent days) is just that...behind closed doors of which we'll know very little. Im certain any percieved wrongs he'll have taken he'll have done so with an heavy heart. What i'll say is if i was as rich as DH i wouldnt have come anywhere near town regarding having a role to play, and thats from someone whos been a regular home and away for 40 years.Some of the abuse hes had has been ridiculous, with even morons threatening members of his family on SM.
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Post by dugnet on Mar 23, 2023 15:11:45 GMT 1
Today marks the end of an era which had many ups, and some downs. Could some things have been done differently? Almost certainly but there were many amazing times too.
The decision, on the face of what we apparently know, shows DH to be the man I thought he was. He appears to have given the club the best chance to move forward. He has also has made a clean break and he, and his family, can step away with dignity.
No one can predict what will happen next but DH can rest easy that he draws a solid line under his ownership.
I can't be a hypocrite and say there haven't been mistakes, because there have. Those can't be changed now but we now have a fresh start. That start may, unfortunately, be from League One but it is an opportunity to start again.
The ideal is for the new ownership to be successful (what success looks like will be different to different people). If so the DH legacy will be the heady days of 16/17/18 if not people will refer to the mistakes. For me it's about the future and hoping our new custodians believe in the potential HTAFC.
I hope DH has an enjoyable future too and can look back and smile at all the good times.
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Post by harrythedog on Mar 23, 2023 15:37:20 GMT 1
Thanks for the Summer of 2017 Dean,
Walking around from late May until the final whistle of the Man U home game with a grin as wide as the entrance to the Pack Horse Centre. Happy days indeed.
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Post by softboy on Mar 23, 2023 16:40:13 GMT 1
Why not put the club into Administration and write his money off now rather than put another £6m in until end of season and write more off in 3 months. It doesn’t make sense other than the additional timescale is needed to complete the EFLs robust! checks. By writing off his debt he could be trying to win the fans back over so in future he is welcomed back at the ground as purely a fan but given the comments on here this shop has long since sailed.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 23, 2023 16:43:28 GMT 1
Why not put the club into Administration and write his money off now rather than put another £6m in until end of season and write more off in 3 months. It doesn’t make sense other than the additional timescale is needed to complete the EFLs robust! checks. By writing off his debt he could be trying to win the fans back over so in future he is welcomed back at the ground as purely a fan but given the comments on here this shop has long since sailed. Well lets hope the ship is full of the idiots who think like that. |
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 23, 2023 16:43:33 GMT 1
Why not put the club into Administration and write his money off now rather than put another £6m in until end of season and write more off in 3 months. It doesn’t make sense other than the additional timescale is needed to complete the EFLs robust! checks. By writing off his debt he could be trying to win the fans back over so in future he is welcomed back at the ground as purely a fan but given the comments on here this shop has long since sailed. The points deduction we’d incur would relegate us. |
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Post by marshterrier on Mar 23, 2023 16:48:21 GMT 1
Thanks for the good times. Good luck for the future.
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Post by softboy on Mar 23, 2023 16:49:12 GMT 1
Yes
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Post by bluebeard on Mar 23, 2023 16:49:32 GMT 1
Thanks Dean Hoyle, for taking our club to the Premier league. The memories of beating Manure and coming out of the ground everyone was buzzing certainly a day to remember just one of a few since DH took over. Some fans! should hang their heads in shame with the abuse they gave him and his family, i wonder if these fans will be at the stadium watching Town if we go down, i very much doubt it
Thanks Dean, fans are for life not just the good times.
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Post by SurreyTerrier on Mar 23, 2023 17:31:02 GMT 1
Thanks Dean, you didnt have to but you did. Talks cheap but you did more than talk.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 23, 2023 21:56:26 GMT 1
I’d got half way through page 2, thinking there were some odd comments.
Then I looked for the statement put out by Dean Hoyle. (using the ‘last 24h’ option)
Then a few seconds later I realised I was reading posts from last October… 😆😆
What a fecking numb nuts…
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Post by hthp on Mar 23, 2023 22:13:22 GMT 1
Why not put the club into Administration and write his money off now rather than put another £6m in until end of season and write more off in 3 months. It doesn’t make sense other than the additional timescale is needed to complete the EFLs robust! checks. By writing off his debt he could be trying to win the fans back over so in future he is welcomed back at the ground as purely a fan but given the comments on here this shop has long since sailed. What are you on about? |
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Post by seanyd1brit on Mar 23, 2023 22:21:55 GMT 1
Whats always made me laugh from time to time on here about D H is when hes been accused of not being a fan, grade A utter rubbish, he supported them at school and has ever since, enough to plough millions into the club, and all the behind closed doors stuff which we know only a fraction of (and which has been proven in recent days) is just that...behind closed doors of which we'll know very little. Im certain any percieved wrongs he'll have taken he'll have done so with an heavy heart. What i'll say is if i was as rich as DH i wouldnt have come anywhere near town regarding having a role to play, and thats from someone whos been a regular home and away for 40 years.Some of the abuse hes had has been ridiculous, with even morons threatening members of his family on SM. Couldn’t agree more. 1. DH has been a Town fan longer than many of his critics have been alive. He’s one of us. Every mistake, setback and failure hurts him just like it hurts us. Do you honestly believe that having a bit of money changes that? 2. DH has essentially gifted Town 40 million quid and some people STILL won’t give him credit. Can anyone name person who’s number 2 in the all time HTFC benefactors list? Is it Rubery? A few million maybe? Who is it after him? Probably less than a million at most. The amount of money DH has given Town is ENORMOUS. That doesn’t become less laudable because he (others) spent it badly. |
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Post by crux on Mar 23, 2023 22:37:39 GMT 1
Whats always made me laugh from time to time on here about D H is when hes been accused of not being a fan, grade A utter rubbish, he supported them at school and has ever since, enough to plough millions into the club, and all the behind closed doors stuff which we know only a fraction of (and which has been proven in recent days) is just that...behind closed doors of which we'll know very little. Im certain any percieved wrongs he'll have taken he'll have done so with an heavy heart. What i'll say is if i was as rich as DH i wouldnt have come anywhere near town regarding having a role to play, and thats from someone whos been a regular home and away for 40 years.Some of the abuse hes had has been ridiculous, with even morons threatening members of his family on SM. Couldn’t agree more. 1. DH has been a Town fan longer than many of his critics have been alive. He’s one of us. Every mistake, setback and failure hurts him just like it hurts us. Do you honestly believe that having a bit of money changes that? 2. DH has essentially gifted Town 40 million quid and some people STILL won’t give him credit. Can anyone name person who’s number 2 in the all time HTFC benefactors list? Is it Rubery? A few million maybe? Who is it after him? Probably less than a million at most. The amount of money DH has given Town is ENORMOUS. That doesn’t become less laudable because he (others) spent it badly. I think Rubery 'wrote off' £16M worth of debts, although I believe he'd cleverly written the deal to double the debt for tax purposes if we went into administration - so I'm not sure how much it actually cost him. I think I'd wait until any details of the deal are available to see how it works in practice. DH could well have written off £40M of loan debt, but received £50M for Canalside and his Town shares (I'm guessing it will be much less, but we've no idea at the moment). |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 24, 2023 0:01:50 GMT 1
Couldn’t agree more. 1. DH has been a Town fan longer than many of his critics have been alive. He’s one of us. Every mistake, setback and failure hurts him just like it hurts us. Do you honestly believe that having a bit of money changes that? 2. DH has essentially gifted Town 40 million quid and some people STILL won’t give him credit. Can anyone name person who’s number 2 in the all time HTFC benefactors list? Is it Rubery? A few million maybe? Who is it after him? Probably less than a million at most. The amount of money DH has given Town is ENORMOUS. That doesn’t become less laudable because he (others) spent it badly. I think Rubery 'wrote off' £16M worth of debts, although I believe he'd cleverly written the deal to double the debt for tax purposes if we went into administration - so I'm not sure how much it actually cost him. I think I'd wait until any details of the deal are available to see how it works in practice. DH could well have written off £40M of loan debt, but received £50M for Canalside and his Town shares (I'm guessing it will be much less, but we've no idea at the moment). Yes hold off on any praise or gratitude towards DH just as folk held off on their character assassinations and plain nastiness ahead of the facts and details |
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Post by incognito on Mar 24, 2023 0:26:53 GMT 1
Couldn’t agree more. 1. DH has been a Town fan longer than many of his critics have been alive. He’s one of us. Every mistake, setback and failure hurts him just like it hurts us. Do you honestly believe that having a bit of money changes that? 2. DH has essentially gifted Town 40 million quid and some people STILL won’t give him credit. Can anyone name person who’s number 2 in the all time HTFC benefactors list? Is it Rubery? A few million maybe? Who is it after him? Probably less than a million at most. The amount of money DH has given Town is ENORMOUS. That doesn’t become less laudable because he (others) spent it badly. I think Rubery 'wrote off' £16M worth of debts, although I believe he'd cleverly written the deal to double the debt for tax purposes if we went into administration - so I'm not sure how much it actually cost him. I think I'd wait until any details of the deal are available to see how it works in practice. DH could well have written off £40M of loan debt, but received £50M for Canalside and his Town shares (I'm guessing it will be much less, but we've no idea at the moment). There are people on here with far more expertise in this area than me, but surely writing off his loans only to ramp up the sale price would be unnecessarily exposing himself to capital gains tax? I always assumed that was part of the appeal of the low shares price / loan repayment plan he set up with Phil. |
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Post by wigster on Mar 24, 2023 0:59:42 GMT 1
A bit boring, I know, but would it be possible for those who are desperate to show how superb Dean Hoyle has always been, and those who are desperate to prove that they were right all along to criticise him, wait just a few more days (I hope) till we actually know what's happened and then we can all apologise/say I told you so/sit on the fence with a bit more certainty ?
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Post by willo on Mar 24, 2023 2:11:51 GMT 1
Whatever the wherewithal with this deal, I sincerely hope Dean feels he can carry on watching us once more simply as an out and out fan without bearing the responsibility for off the field issues - all the while ignoring some of the knuckle draggers on social media. Mistakes have been made but they don’t erase what he has achieved as our Chairman. For me, he has plenty of credit in the bank. Cheers Dean, time to move on but it’s been one helluva ride (and continues to be so!). The moment that ball left Schindler’s boot and hit the back of the net will likely never be beaten for me or many, many others. Personally, it was the culmination of watching Town for almost 40 years and saw us reach the fabled “promised land”, something I never thought I’d see us do. A long holiday somewhere hot should be prescribed next with a cold beer in the hand. 🍻
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Post by cecerececerececere on Mar 24, 2023 7:02:22 GMT 1
I've been critical of Hoyle over the past few years....since the Hodgkinson deal to be accurate.
However, before that point, how he galvanised the club, provided the forward momentum and became a unifying force was something truly extraordinary.
It's fair to say that the vast majority of Town fans gave Hoyle their 100% approval for the vast majority of his first stint in charge. Some suggesting a statue should be erected.
Unfortunately things turned sour for a lot of Town fans in regard to their opinion of Hoyle. For me, that started with the Hodgkinson deal plus subsequent decisions in the past 12 months or so.
Looking at the big picture, even if we go back to League 1, Hoyles tenure should be seen as a positive. Although I just wish it had turned out differently. It was sad to see Hoyle go from a hugely unifying force to a divisive figure.
While "the devil in the detail" still remains to be seen, hopefully we now have a clean break for the new owners to take the club forward. I just wish this type of deal could have been done rather than the Hodgkinson one...and we might have got that statue built 😉.
Time to focus on the future.
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Post by johnbarnes on Mar 24, 2023 7:15:39 GMT 1
I think Rubery 'wrote off' £16M worth of debts, although I believe he'd cleverly written the deal to double the debt for tax purposes if we went into administration - so I'm not sure how much it actually cost him. I think I'd wait until any details of the deal are available to see how it works in practice. DH could well have written off £40M of loan debt, but received £50M for Canalside and his Town shares (I'm guessing it will be much less, but we've no idea at the moment). Yes hold off on any praise or gratitude towards DH just as folk held off on their character assassinations and plain nastiness ahead of the facts and details how strange shortbreads back!!! shut the door on the way out hoyle, good bye |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 24, 2023 10:36:41 GMT 1
Yes hold off on any praise or gratitude towards DH just as folk held off on their character assassinations and plain nastiness ahead of the facts and details how strange shortbreads back!!! shut the door on the way out hoyle, good bye What do you want - a keyring? lol |
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Post by mosher on Mar 24, 2023 11:31:11 GMT 1
Why not put the club into Administration and write his money off now rather than put another £6m in until end of season and write more off in 3 months. It doesn’t make sense other than the additional timescale is needed to complete the EFLs robust! checks. By writing off his debt he could be trying to win the fans back over so in future he is welcomed back at the ground as purely a fan but given the comments on here this shop has long since sailed. The money put in til the end of the season from now on is repayable by the new owners, he's not writing anything else off. And that's 100% fine with me. He's no longer the owner and is subsidising us til the new owners get their feet under the desk so anything he puts in now isn't part of his investment; he's loaning to the new guys to aid them in the transition. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 24, 2023 14:28:54 GMT 1
Why not put the club into Administration and write his money off now rather than put another £6m in until end of season and write more off in 3 months. It doesn’t make sense other than the additional timescale is needed to complete the EFLs robust! checks. By writing off his debt he could be trying to win the fans back over so in future he is welcomed back at the ground as purely a fan but given the comments on here this shop has long since sailed. The money put in til the end of the season from now on is repayable by the new owners, he's not writing anything else off. And that's 100% fine with me. He's no longer the owner and is subsidising us til the new owners get their feet under the desk so anything he puts in now isn't part of his investment; he's loaning to the new guys to aid them in the transition. I would imagine Hoyle has learned from what happened at Birmingham , where the club was 'sold' and the new owners started putting money in and influencing decisions on the back of it, but before they'd be officially approved to be that involved. Then the whole thing fell through and it was a right mess. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2023 15:47:37 GMT 1
Without Dean Hoyle there would be no Huddersfield Town today, thank you for that Sir.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2023 16:09:21 GMT 1
Sounds like he really went through the mill getting this deal done (the hardest bit getting the shares back from Phil concluded at 1am yesterday morning).
Everything I've heard tells of a man who does care about the club and more to the point, the people employed by it.
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Post by rabtdog on Mar 24, 2023 21:24:15 GMT 1
Dean has provided everything we have experienced since Lee Clark came on the scene
Mostly highs in my opinion
Would trade all the lows for the prem years
Don’t forget the bike rides , raised a lot of money saved lives
Breakfast club fed thousands of kids
Dean led the way with a lot of these initiatives that other clubs have copied and done good in there own areas
I hope when all this goes through we still see Dean on the terraces
At the end of the Day a ordinary fella that flogged a lot of cards
Helped a lot of people on the way
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Post by rabtdog on Mar 24, 2023 21:24:41 GMT 1
Dean has provided everything we have experienced since Lee Clark came on the scene
Mostly highs in my opinion
Would trade all the lows for the prem years
Don’t forget the bike rides , raised a lot of money saved lives
Breakfast club fed thousands of kids
Dean led the way with a lot of these initiatives that other clubs have copied and done good in there own areas
I hope when all this goes through we still see Dean on the terraces
At the end of the Day a ordinary fella that flogged a lot of cards
Helped a lot of people on the way
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Post by wigster on Mar 24, 2023 21:52:50 GMT 1
Without Dean Hoyle there would be no Huddersfield Town today, thank you for that Sir. Why on earth not ? |
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Post by Sio on Mar 24, 2023 21:53:15 GMT 1
Without Dean Hoyle there would be no Huddersfield Town today, thank you for that Sir. Eh?! |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 24, 2023 22:00:20 GMT 1
Without Dean Hoyle there would be no Huddersfield Town today, thank you for that Sir. Why on earth not ? DATM is nothing without it's over the top ridiculousness. |
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