Stadium

[bristolterrier]

Feb 21, 2024 18:31:44 GMT 1 detox said:

Feb 21, 2024 18:27:24 GMT 1 gingerc said:

All we need to do is just ask the Government nicely to contribute towards a new or improved stadium by claiming that is part of a regen strategy and a good use of tax payers money. At least that sounds like it’s Jim Radcliffe’s strategy for sorting out the crumbling Old Trafford. Somehow, I don’t think supporting that will be vote winner for fans of every other club in the country…

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68361025

there's grant money galore...especially in deprived, multi cultural areas like Fartown, and especially to create sporting activities for kids..and especially again where the site needs regeneration...The EU would be throwing millions of euros at this..had we not left

You do realise that the millions the EU threw at us was a part of our own money that we threw at them? they then make you put a nice plaque on it saying "EU Funded"
A scam in any other name.

[Porrohman]

Mar 8, 2024 17:25:12 GMT 1 bristolterrier said:

Feb 21, 2024 18:31:44 GMT 1 detox said:

there's grant money galore...especially in deprived, multi cultural areas like Fartown, and especially to create sporting activities for kids..and especially again where the site needs regeneration...The EU would be throwing millions of euros at this..had we not left

You do realise that the millions the EU threw at us was a part of our own money that we threw at them? they then make you put a nice plaque on it saying "EU Funded"
A scam in any other name.

And now the only money getting thrown at anyone, from these twats in Government, is being thrown at their dodgy mates. The biggest scam of all.

[philstarbuckscoffee]

My take on this is surely the area is so ripe for investment. There is a video going round about how so much money has been earmarked for investment in the area (think I saw Huddersfield Hub share it).

The fact that there is so much derelict land (driving range, Plots on St Andrews Road) nearby, you could visualise the possibilities of linking the Town Centre with the ground and having some nice outlets/restaurants/leisure facilities bordering the canal and making the whole area sustainable.

The idea for a hotel seemed to have some weight but it seems daft that the catalyst to realise this potential would be some mustachioed American fella who has been to the area a handful of times.

For me, the Town centre and the Football Club have unbelievable similarities in the fact both have untapped potential and have suffered from decades of underinvestment. But it is very easy to spend other people’s money and it feels like a game of who blinks first with the stadium situation.

For me, the most exciting thing about Nagel coming in, is the talk of developing the ground and surrounding area. Please, can anyone who can help facilitate this process just get the ball rolling. UTT

[royrace]

Mar 8, 2024 20:34:32 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Mar 8, 2024 17:25:12 GMT 1 bristolterrier said:

You do realise that the millions the EU threw at us was a part of our own money that we threw at them? they then make you put a nice plaque on it saying "EU Funded"
A scam in any other name.

And now the only money getting thrown at anyone, from these twats in Government, is being thrown at their dodgy mates. The biggest scam of all.

Zzzzzzzzz

Doesn't need anyone to 'throw' money at it. It needs an entrepreneur who knows what he's doing to make it a going concern. Anything decent in Huddersfield will fly due to the fact the majority of the town centre is a depressing shit hole and getting worse by the month. That's fk all to do with the current central government btw.

The sooner KN gets hold of it the better but he has to be a fair deal for all concerned. Hopefully it gets done sooner rather than later.

[Porrohman]

Mar 9, 2024 0:47:15 GMT 1 royrace said:

Mar 8, 2024 20:34:32 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

And now the only money getting thrown at anyone, from these twats in Government, is being thrown at their dodgy mates. The biggest scam of all.

Zzzzzzzzz

Doesn't need anyone to 'throw' money at it. It needs an entrepreneur who knows what he's doing to make it a going concern. Anything decent in Huddersfield will fly due to the fact the majority of the town centre is a depressing shit hole and getting worse by the month. That's fk all to do with the current central government btw.

The sooner KN gets hold of it the better but he has to be a fair deal for all concerned. Hopefully it gets done sooner rather than later.

Yeah, the 40% budget cut from the government is fuck all to do with the government 🤔🙄

[royrace]

Mar 9, 2024 5:26:14 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Mar 9, 2024 0:47:15 GMT 1 royrace said:

Zzzzzzzzz

Doesn't need anyone to 'throw' money at it. It needs an entrepreneur who knows what he's doing to make it a going concern. Anything decent in Huddersfield will fly due to the fact the majority of the town centre is a depressing shit hole and getting worse by the month. That's fk all to do with the current central government btw.

The sooner KN gets hold of it the better but he has to be a fair deal for all concerned. Hopefully it gets done sooner rather than later.

Yeah, the 40% budget cut from the government is fuck all to do with the government 🤔🙄

In what way is that relevant to the fact they have continually failed to attract investment to the town centre and continued to throw money away on ineffective schemes and shitty new developments. The George hotel fiasco one of many examples. How many millions thrown away there.

Are kirklees the only council facing cuts?

I don't think it's quite as simple as blaming central government somehow and it's been heading this way for years.

[detox]

Mar 9, 2024 7:55:03 GMT 1 royrace said:

Mar 9, 2024 5:26:14 GMT 1 Porrohman said:

Yeah, the 40% budget cut from the government is fuck all to do with the government 🤔🙄

In what way is that relevant to the fact they have continually failed to attract investment to the town centre and continued to throw money away on ineffective schemes and shitty new developments. The George hotel fiasco one of many examples. How many millions thrown away there.

Are kirklees the only council facing cuts?

I don't think it's quite as simple as blaming central government somehow and it's been heading this way for years.

Using the George Hotel,and Castle Hill..as examples,both ventures where KMC got ibo bed with rogues.

Gullible or corruption ?

Either way, clearing up their own mess cost £m's, our money. Maybe it's the system which allows councillors to get tapped up and then present a case before the council which gets passed..even after independent (council) financial scrutiny.

It happens too often.

Something is wrong,and I don't think KMC is unique.

[joeyjoneslocker]

If we are to grow as a club we need full control of the ground.
Kirklees Council are like an irritating wasp hovering around, they need swatting. If the Giants want to rent it from us then I don’t see an issue with that but we take priority and they work around us. If they can’t afford it then they need to adjust accordingly.
The football club seems to be carrying a dead weight all the time. We need to maximise profit and increase revenue, we 100% need full ownership.

[themanfromatlantis]

Mar 9, 2024 9:23:13 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

If we are to grow as a club we need full control of the ground.
Kirklees Council are like an irritating wasp hovering around, they need swatting. If the Giants want to rent it from us then I don’t see an issue with that but we take priority and they work around us. If they can’t afford it then they need to adjust accordingly.
The football club seems to be carrying a dead weight all the time. We need to maximise profit and increase revenue, we 100% need full ownership.

I don’t disagree in part, but how did this work when we went into administration and didn’t have a pot to piss in? Did we get some leeway from the other partners? (& yes I know there was the Ken Davy saga)

Whether we like it or not, the fact that it currently suits us to exploit this situation, the stadium was (IIRC) a community based model, which was fairly new at the time. In fairness it would only be another public asset going into private hands for tuppence if Nagle did take control, but for once, it would be nice if we could still stick to the spirit of what it was about. If Nagle wants to be remembered fondly in these parts, putting money into retaining and growing this as a community stadium, and realising it’s bigger potential (more concerts/events), then he’d do well to retain the ethos of what it was all about in the first place.

Appreciate life is never that simple, but it would be nice to think that most Town fans want a community legacy, as opposed to a short term shot of euphoria, followed by dismay when KN eventually sells the club. (which he will)

[Big Ern]

Mar 9, 2024 10:17:37 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

Mar 9, 2024 9:23:13 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

If we are to grow as a club we need full control of the ground.
Kirklees Council are like an irritating wasp hovering around, they need swatting. If the Giants want to rent it from us then I don’t see an issue with that but we take priority and they work around us. If they can’t afford it then they need to adjust accordingly.
The football club seems to be carrying a dead weight all the time. We need to maximise profit and increase revenue, we 100% need full ownership.

I don’t disagree in part, but how did this work when we went into administration and didn’t have a pot to piss in? Did we get some leeway from the other partners? (& yes I know there was the Ken Davy saga)

Whether we like it or not, the fact that it currently suits us to exploit this situation, the stadium was (IIRC) a community based model, which was fairly new at the time. In fairness it would only be another public asset going into private hands for tuppence if Nagle did take control, but for once, it would be nice if we could still stick to the spirit of what it was about. If Nagle wants to be remembered fondly in these parts, putting money into retaining and growing this as a community stadium, and realising it’s bigger potential (more concerts/events), then he’d do well to retain the ethos of what it was all about in the first place.

Appreciate life is never that simple, but it would be nice to think that most Town fans want a community legacy, as opposed to a short term shot of euphoria, followed by dismay when KN eventually sells the club. (which he will)

Why should he put money into something he doesn't own and that the council refuse to fund themselves? The club need to own the ground in order to grow.

[joeyjoneslocker]

Mar 9, 2024 10:17:37 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

Mar 9, 2024 9:23:13 GMT 1 joeyjoneslocker said:

If we are to grow as a club we need full control of the ground.
Kirklees Council are like an irritating wasp hovering around, they need swatting. If the Giants want to rent it from us then I don’t see an issue with that but we take priority and they work around us. If they can’t afford it then they need to adjust accordingly.
The football club seems to be carrying a dead weight all the time. We need to maximise profit and increase revenue, we 100% need full ownership.

I don’t disagree in part, but how did this work when we went into administration and didn’t have a pot to piss in? Did we get some leeway from the other partners? (& yes I know there was the Ken Davy saga)

Whether we like it or not, the fact that it currently suits us to exploit this situation, the stadium was (IIRC) a community based model, which was fairly new at the time. In fairness it would only be another public asset going into private hands for tuppence if Nagle did take control, but for once, it would be nice if we could still stick to the spirit of what it was about. If Nagle wants to be remembered fondly in these parts, putting money into retaining and growing this as a community stadium, and realising it’s bigger potential (more concerts/events), then he’d do well to retain the ethos of what it was all about in the first place.

Appreciate life is never that simple, but it would be nice to think that most Town fans want a community legacy, as opposed to a short term shot of euphoria, followed by dismay when KN eventually sells the club. (which he will)

Spirit, community, ethos are all well and good but they are currently shackles. We need to think bigger and act bigger. We need to prioritise football. Or we can carry on being all nice about the whole thing, feeling good about ourselves that it’s still a public asset, fondly remembering when we nearly went bust and carry on running the club as a ‘nearly’ club. 
I think it’s time to put on the big boy pants and go for it. 
As Del Boy said, ‘he who dares Rodney, he who dares’ 

[galpharm2400]

Footballing success, allows the community and social side to grow.
Have to win football matches first.

[joek]

Is this the right place to celebrate the fact that there are now two soap dispensers (one on either side of the sinks) in the Riverside Upper gents toilets? Hand-dryers are still mounted in the most stupid place imaginable mind.

[desertstorm]

Pitch to be relayed, board room to be made bigger and hospitality is getting a much needed facelift/investment. Lots going on behind the scenes.

Th club are paying for the upgrades/refurbs so I’m taking a calculated guess that things may be progressing in the right direction re Stadium Ownership.

[Million Dollar Babies]

Mar 10, 2024 19:54:49 GMT 1 desertstorm said:

Pitch to be relayed, board room to be made bigger and hospitality is getting a much needed facelift/investment. Lots going on behind the scenes.

Th club are paying for the upgrades/refurbs so I’m taking a calculated guess that things may be progressing in the right direction re Stadium Ownership.

Best pitch in league one will be something to be proud of

[Tim Nice But Dim]

The toilets need to have piped music in them so when your sat on the throne, you should be listening to Swan Lake

[ambryboy]

Mar 10, 2024 20:54:17 GMT 1 Tim Nice But Dim said:

The toilets need to have piped music in them so when your sat on the throne, you should be listening to Swan Lake

Handel's Water Music might be more appropriate or perhaps Wagner's Ring Cycle?

[Porrohman]

Mar 10, 2024 23:49:49 GMT 1 ambryboy said:

Mar 10, 2024 20:54:17 GMT 1 Tim Nice But Dim said:

The toilets need to have piped music in them so when your sat on the throne, you should be listening to Swan Lake

Handel's Water Music might be more appropriate or perhaps Wagner's Ring Cycle?

Or Oh Shit by Buzzcocks

[houllierspal]

And hot water

[kennyk2]

Talking of the fan experience, in January the weather was so cold during the play off game involving the Dolphin Chiefs (Missouri) that some fans suffered frostbite and had to have fingers amputated.

[Five Lamps]

My major concern recently is the joker who's been putting soap in the hand sanitiser dispensers on the Kilner Bank concourse.

[HuddsTerrier]

Who runs the Stadium these days - honestly it's so amateur

The Leeds game my Dad went for a pie at half time and they were sold out - for a lunchtime kick off and we're talking pies where they make maybe 300% margin. They have kids working there get paid standing around without food to sell and time and again they understock. I mean it's not rocket science as they put on over 23 "events" a season so must be able to judge demand. Worse case if you have to throw a few pies away with the margins they make they'd still be in profit (not just pies all food - Beef Briskets etc)

Then I went for a beer after the game in the Legends bar. Queue was massive - I mean how hard would it be to pay a couple of catering team for a couple of hours longer to pull post match beers in Legends. Not that it would matter as they sold out of Town Lager, Amstel and all bottle lager. The Guiness on the pump was done and a bitter was the only beer going on the taps. The only alcoholic Can they had was Guiness. Again why not stock up the cans and if you don't sell them at Leeds you'd sell them the week later ... and with massive margin it's got to worth it

It's like they don't want to make money

Then there's the matchday experience

Yesterday I went into the Kilner (cinema end). There was queue about 100 metres long to get in the Fantastic Media stand. That's because only 2 of the 4 turnstiles at the FM end were open. Across the way there was no queue to get in the Kilner as 7 of the 8 turnstiles for that stand was open. I mean why not close two of the gates on the Kilner and open the other two gates on the FM stand so paying customers can be in their seats for kick off rather than stand for 10 mins in the rain!

That's just three things I've noticed in the last two games

Is there a business brain cell in the Stadium management team? No wonder it's bankrupt

[Towner47]

Mar 11, 2024 9:36:47 GMT 1 Five Lamps said:

My major concern recently is the joker who's been putting soap in the hand sanitiser dispensers on the Kilner Bank concourse.

You have soap !! My wife says neither soap or sanitizer in theirs .

[Uddersfeeled]

Mar 11, 2024 11:02:21 GMT 1 HuddsTerrier said:

Who runs the Stadium these days - honestly it's so amateur

The Leeds game my Dad went for a pie at half time and they were sold out - for a lunchtime kick off and we're talking pies where they make maybe 300% margin. They have kids working there get paid standing around without food to sell and time and again they understock. I mean it's not rocket science as they put on over 23 "events" a season so must be able to judge demand. Worse case if you have to throw a few pies away with the margins they make they'd still be in profit (not just pies all food - Beef Briskets etc)

Then I went for a beer after the game in the Legends bar. Queue was massive - I mean how hard would it be to pay a couple of catering team for a couple of hours longer to pull post match beers in Legends. Not that it would matter as they sold out of Town Lager, Amstel and all bottle lager. The Guiness on the pump was done and a bitter was the only beer going on the taps. The only alcoholic Can they had was Guiness. Again why not stock up the cans and if you don't sell them at Leeds you'd sell them the week later ... and with massive margin it's got to worth it

It's like they don't want to make money

Then there's the matchday experience

Yesterday I went into the Kilner (cinema end). There was queue about 100 metres long to get in the Fantastic Media stand. That's because only 2 of the 4 turnstiles at the FM end were open. Across the way there was no queue to get in the Kilner as 7 of the 8 turnstiles for that stand was open. I mean why not close two of the gates on the Kilner and open the other two gates on the FM stand so paying customers can be in their seats for kick off rather than stand for 10 mins in the rain!

That's just three things I've noticed in the last two games

Is there a business brain cell in the Stadium management team? No wonder it's bankrupt

Somebody has woken up on the wrong side of his bed !

[HuddsTerrier]

Mar 11, 2024 11:57:02 GMT 1 Uddersfeeled said:

Mar 11, 2024 11:02:21 GMT 1 HuddsTerrier said:

Who runs the Stadium these days - honestly it's so amateur

The Leeds game my Dad went for a pie at half time and they were sold out - for a lunchtime kick off and we're talking pies where they make maybe 300% margin. They have kids working there get paid standing around without food to sell and time and again they understock. I mean it's not rocket science as they put on over 23 "events" a season so must be able to judge demand. Worse case if you have to throw a few pies away with the margins they make they'd still be in profit (not just pies all food - Beef Briskets etc)

Then I went for a beer after the game in the Legends bar. Queue was massive - I mean how hard would it be to pay a couple of catering team for a couple of hours longer to pull post match beers in Legends. Not that it would matter as they sold out of Town Lager, Amstel and all bottle lager. The Guiness on the pump was done and a bitter was the only beer going on the taps. The only alcoholic Can they had was Guiness. Again why not stock up the cans and if you don't sell them at Leeds you'd sell them the week later ... and with massive margin it's got to worth it

It's like they don't want to make money

Then there's the matchday experience

Yesterday I went into the Kilner (cinema end). There was queue about 100 metres long to get in the Fantastic Media stand. That's because only 2 of the 4 turnstiles at the FM end were open. Across the way there was no queue to get in the Kilner as 7 of the 8 turnstiles for that stand was open. I mean why not close two of the gates on the Kilner and open the other two gates on the FM stand so paying customers can be in their seats for kick off rather than stand for 10 mins in the rain!

That's just three things I've noticed in the last two games

Is there a business brain cell in the Stadium management team? No wonder it's bankrupt

Somebody has woken up on the wrong side of his bed !

Haha probably right

Just don't understand why they can't do any of the basics right. Get people in their seat, order enough food and drink

To say there's room for improvement is a massive understatement

[Uddersfeeled]

Mar 11, 2024 12:18:35 GMT 1 HuddsTerrier said:

Mar 11, 2024 11:57:02 GMT 1 Uddersfeeled said:

Somebody has woken up on the wrong side of his bed !

Haha probably right

Just don't understand why they can't do any of the basics right. Get people in their seat, order enough food and drink

To say there's room for improvement is a massive understatement

Rome wasn't built in a day (on and off the field).

In KN we (we have to) trust !!

[themanfromatlantis]

Mar 11, 2024 8:57:10 GMT 1 kennyk2 said:

Talking of the fan experience, in January the weather was so cold during the play off game involving the Dolphin Chiefs (Missouri) that some fans suffered frostbite and had to have fingers amputated.

I read that story a few days ago and thought WTF…

I’ll bet there’s a shirtless Geordie willing to take on the challenge though.

[dalesterrier]

My Dad tells me (he has the time to check these things!!) that an article has been placed on KMC website either yesterday or today. It states the council are getting rid of 50 sites to improve funds and one of these is stated as Leeds Road HTAFC...so I assume the stadium 🤷
Don't know if anyone else has heard anything and I don't have a link sorry!

[Million Dollar Babies]

Mar 17, 2024 10:05:43 GMT 1 dalesterrier said:

My Dad tells me (he has the time to check these things!!) that an article has been placed on KMC website either yesterday or today. It states the council are getting rid of 50 sites to improve funds and one of these is stated as Leeds Road HTAFC...so I assume the stadium 🤷
Don't know if anyone else has heard anything and I don't have a link sorry!

Wonder if it is Leeds Road playing fields where the running track is and indoor 3g pitch. Town have used that on occasion when the weather has been bad

[detox]

Mar 11, 2024 11:02:21 GMT 1 HuddsTerrier said:

Who runs the Stadium these days - honestly it's so amateur

The Leeds game my Dad went for a pie at half time and they were sold out - for a lunchtime kick off and we're talking pies where they make maybe 300% margin. They have kids working there get paid standing around without food to sell and time and again they understock. I mean it's not rocket science as they put on over 23 "events" a season so must be able to judge demand. Worse case if you have to throw a few pies away with the margins they make they'd still be in profit (not just pies all food - Beef Briskets etc)

Then I went for a beer after the game in the Legends bar. Queue was massive - I mean how hard would it be to pay a couple of catering team for a couple of hours longer to pull post match beers in Legends. Not that it would matter as they sold out of Town Lager, Amstel and all bottle lager. The Guiness on the pump was done and a bitter was the only beer going on the taps. The only alcoholic Can they had was Guiness. Again why not stock up the cans and if you don't sell them at Leeds you'd sell them the week later ... and with massive margin it's got to worth it

It's like they don't want to make money

Then there's the matchday experience

Yesterday I went into the Kilner (cinema end). There was queue about 100 metres long to get in the Fantastic Media stand. That's because only 2 of the 4 turnstiles at the FM end were open. Across the way there was no queue to get in the Kilner as 7 of the 8 turnstiles for that stand was open. I mean why not close two of the gates on the Kilner and open the other two gates on the FM stand so paying customers can be in their seats for kick off rather than stand for 10 mins in the rain!

That's just three things I've noticed in the last two games

Is there a business brain cell in the Stadium management team? No wonder it's bankrupt

I think the 'match day experience' was the remit of a certain Ann Hough..............