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Post by onesteviekindon on Oct 27, 2022 3:03:14 GMT 1
If VAR is involved the whole thing will probably drag on until summer.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 27, 2022 7:20:28 GMT 1
I'll watch as much as I can but I can't see me bothering watching the England games. Hope Sorba, Yuta and Michel all get picked. Haha you comment on just about every football match ever played on the todays games thread including Bournemouth v West Ham the other night - I'm convinced there are West Ham fans that probably didn't bother watching that - yet you'll not watch England games at a world cup so you can keep your little 'I hate England' thing? Never change Porroh  I don't hate England, I've no interest in watching them under Southgate. From the kick off times I've seen I've realised I'm hardly going to see a game anyway so it won't make much difference to me. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Oct 27, 2022 7:25:41 GMT 1
I’ll watch all England plus any 4pm and 7pm games.
Can’t see anyone doing better than Brazil but you never know.
England should finish last 4 with our squad, anything less would be underachieving in my opinion.
Wonder who the dark horse will be this time? Possibly USA.
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 27, 2022 7:29:18 GMT 1
I’ll watch all England plus any 4pm and 7pm games. Can’t see anyone doing better than Brazil but you never know. England should finish last 4 with our squad, anything less would be underachieving in my opinion. Wonder who the dark horse will be this time? Possibly USA. Are there 4pm k/o's. I'd still miss them though. The only fixtures I've seen are England and Wales' and they are 10am, 1pm or 7pm. |
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Post by space hardware on Oct 27, 2022 8:11:17 GMT 1
I’ll watch all England plus any 4pm and 7pm games. Can’t see anyone doing better than Brazil but you never know. England should finish last 4 with our squad, anything less would be underachieving in my opinion. Wonder who the dark horse will be this time? Possibly USA. Are there 4pm k/o's. I'd still miss them though. The only fixtures I've seen are England and Wales' and they are 10am, 1pm or 7pm. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Oct 27, 2022 8:19:19 GMT 1
I’ll watch all England plus any 4pm and 7pm games. Can’t see anyone doing better than Brazil but you never know. England should finish last 4 with our squad, anything less would be underachieving in my opinion. Wonder who the dark horse will be this time? Possibly USA. Are there 4pm k/o's. I'd still miss them though. The only fixtures I've seen are England and Wales' and they are 10am, 1pm or 7pm. Didn’t realise that. No chance to watch at 10am or 1pm on weekdays. |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 27, 2022 8:27:22 GMT 1
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Post by Torquayterrier on Oct 27, 2022 8:49:19 GMT 1
It usually takes me a while to get warmed up for a WC but I'm genuinely feeling a bit 'meh' about this one. England not been that great recently and it just feels totally wrong as a winter competition. I expect I will try to fit the England games in, at least the 7pm ones anyway. Work will wipe most daytime fixtures out for me so much will pass me by. There are so many games in the group stages I probably won't even keep up with late night highlights programmes if they are on.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Oct 27, 2022 8:51:06 GMT 1
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 27, 2022 9:17:52 GMT 1
Strong and clear message. 
No Aaron Mooy, by the looks of things.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Oct 27, 2022 9:31:59 GMT 1
Of anyone is giving any thoughts to whether they should support this awful event, from today's Times....
"Of a population of three million, only a tenth are citizens. The rest are foreign workers, their temporary status emphasised by the most remarkable demographic statistic I’ve seen recently: 76 per cent of the Qatari population is male."
come on everyone, this should not be happening, should it?
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Post by tepidterrier on Oct 27, 2022 9:40:02 GMT 1
Completely unbothered. Whole thing's a disgrace, the watered down gesture politics will mildly stir up the press but ultimately achieve nothing for the people Qatar fucks over. I love international tournaments usually as well. Probably going to avoid most games. I'll watch if there's a town player involved, I'll watch the final and maybe a handful more. I usually watch every game I can at these Seeing as you touched on gesture politics only today james cleverley asked any gay fans going to Qatar to respect their hosts/compromise which considering homosexuality is illegal in Qatar is good advice, he was basically saying considering where you are dont flaunt your sexuality and respect the country as it might attract unwanted attention form the authorities, natuarally he got criticised for perfectly sound advice...why?This isnt defending Qatar, not at all, its backwards in lots of ways but to criticise someone for basically saying be carefull is odd. if the headline was 'be careful', I'd agree, but it was 'be respectful'. I generally go by 'when in Rome' when I'm travelling, and I'd guess that most gay people do as well. I can see why people are annoyed by it as it doesn't inspire confidence that the government would fight anyone's corner if they get arrested. I think the conversation should be different when it comes to an event like the World Cup. If you want to host the whole world, you need to be prepared to accept that people from different cultures and with different value systems are going to be there. If any gay people are brave enough to go, I'm sure they'll feel intimidated enough to keep things quiet. |
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Post by sabailand on Oct 27, 2022 9:57:50 GMT 1
Seeing as you touched on gesture politics only today james cleverley asked any gay fans going to Qatar to respect their hosts/compromise which considering homosexuality is illegal in Qatar is good advice, he was basically saying considering where you are dont flaunt your sexuality and respect the country as it might attract unwanted attention form the authorities, natuarally he got criticised for perfectly sound advice...why?This isnt defending Qatar, not at all, its backwards in lots of ways but to criticise someone for basically saying be carefull is odd. if the headline was 'be careful', I'd agree, but it was 'be respectful'. I generally go by 'when in Rome' when I'm travelling, and I'd guess that most gay people do as well. I can see why people are annoyed by it as it doesn't inspire confidence that the government would fight anyone's corner if they get arrested. I think the conversation should be different when it comes to an event like the World Cup. If you want to host the whole world, you need to be prepared to accept that people from different cultures and with different value systems are going to be there. If any gay people are brave enough to go, I'm sure they'll feel intimidated enough to keep things quiet. Yes to be fair most gay people who are travelling will be aware the country has some draconian laws, im sure they know its not like a fortnight in a European destination, its the hysterical overreaction to the government ministers comments i cant understand, it was basically sensible advice about a country where in 2022 being gay is illegal. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 27, 2022 11:20:44 GMT 1
The tournament was bought in fairness. I don’t think it’ll work as an experiment, which is what I think it’ll be viewed as.
The most obvious benefit is that all the grounds are within close proximity, hardly surprising given the size and terrain of the country.
It’s had eye watering amounts of cash pumped into it. Again, hardly surprising when you consider a country that has so much money it doesn’t know what to do with it (other than buy sport).
It’s at risk of becoming like football meets Disney. It won’t be tribal, the social side of it will be very homogenised etc.
Which is why I’m glad that the FIFA going bust option is winning a few votes. They’ve always been about the money for these tournaments, but this seems almost shameless in handing it to Qatar. They seem like perfect bedfellows…
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Post by sabailand on Oct 27, 2022 11:38:06 GMT 1
The tournament was bought in fairness. I don’t think it’ll work as an experiment, which is what I think it’ll be viewed as. The most obvious benefit is that all the grounds are within close proximity, hardly surprising given the size and terrain of the country. It’s had eye watering amounts of cash pumped into it. Again, hardly surprising when you consider a country that has so much money it doesn’t know what to do with it (other than buy sport). It’s at risk of becoming like football meets Disney. It won’t be tribal, the social side of it will be very homogenised etc. Which is why I’m glad that the FIFA going bust option is winning a few votes. They’ve always been about the money for these tournaments, but this seems almost shameless in handing it to Qatar. They seem like perfect bedfellows… There was a bit of controversy when Russia were awarded the world cup, at least Russia was a country with footballing tradition with teams that were household names, we can all remember the dinamo's, the Lokomotives, the spartaks, the torpedo's...i get FIFA want different countries to host it but choosing Qatar was wrong for a multitude of reasons. |
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Post by stevvy on Oct 27, 2022 12:27:14 GMT 1
Well with 4 games a day during the group stages, and with 3 of those being done by the time I get home from work, at most I'll see one game a day during the week during the group stages.
However, I'm not that bothered about it to be honest. I might watch the odd game here and there if I've not got much else to do, but I won't be making any sort of special effort to watch any games, even if England made the final (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 27, 2022 12:48:37 GMT 1
Not interested in the slightest. Sell your soul if you want, but I will decline, thanks. Watching a few games of football on TV is selling your soul? 🤔 |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 27, 2022 12:50:07 GMT 1
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Oct 27, 2022 14:40:47 GMT 1
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Post by bridgeterrier on Oct 27, 2022 14:50:23 GMT 1
I'm going. wish I had sold my soul as I could do with the money just pay for a beer while I'm out there.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 27, 2022 16:09:26 GMT 1
Although open to interpretation, reports say 6,500 migrant workers have been killed since they won the bid. When I say open to interpretation, the Qatari response to that is to suggest they weren't all involved in WC projects, so not really denying the numbers.
Imagine if 6,500 workers had been killed constructing our Olympic infr & Crossrail. Qatar have built half a dozen stadiums and an overground transit system.
I think FIFA will come to regret this decision in the long run, and the team who win it will always have a bit of FIFA induced baggage round their success. (which would be unfair to that team/country)
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 27, 2022 16:10:14 GMT 1
I'm going. wish I had sold my soul as I could do with the money just pay for a beer while I'm out there. Have you been to other tournaments? Would be good to get a comparison after this one. |
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Post by Orinoco on Oct 27, 2022 16:22:45 GMT 1
even if you miss some, you will beable to catch up with them on iplayer and ITV hub.
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Post by bridgeterrier on Oct 27, 2022 16:43:41 GMT 1
I'm going. wish I had sold my soul as I could do with the money just pay for a beer while I'm out there. Have you been to other tournaments? Would be good to get a comparison after this one. Only Euro 16 and Euro 20, It's my first World Cup. I thought with It being a small country We would never get a better chance to see a few games without the hassle of planning flights and hotels in different locations, USA/Canada/Mexico 2028 could be a logistical nightmare. Even so this trip hasn't been without its problems for many with Hotels few and far between due to being reserved for FIFA and sponsors and other "accommodation" being drip fed to supporters. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 27, 2022 16:54:18 GMT 1
Have you been to other tournaments? Would be good to get a comparison after this one. Only Euro 16 and Euro 20, It's my first World Cup. I thought with It being a small country We would never get a better chance to see a few games without the hassle of planning flights and hotels in different locations, USA/Canada/Mexico 2028 could be a logistical nightmare. Even so this trip hasn't been without its problems for many with Hotels few and far between due to being reserved for FIFA and sponsors and other "accommodation" being drip fed to supporters. Yes, they did say that was a benefit for supporters wanting to take in more than 1 game in the same day as well. Hotels - I worked in Glasgow when the CW games was on. Couldn't get into my regular Hotel during that period and ended up way past Edinburgh, Dunfermline to be specific, so a right bloody trek. The dignitaries always get their arses wiped, that's life I suppose... Hope you have a successful trip... |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Oct 27, 2022 17:08:19 GMT 1
Strong and clear message. No Aaron Mooy, by the looks of things.
he played a full 90 on Saturday for Celtic and came on as sub on Tuesday - so still getting first team time |
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 27, 2022 17:19:12 GMT 1
if the headline was 'be careful', I'd agree, but it was 'be respectful'. I generally go by 'when in Rome' when I'm travelling, and I'd guess that most gay people do as well. I can see why people are annoyed by it as it doesn't inspire confidence that the government would fight anyone's corner if they get arrested. I think the conversation should be different when it comes to an event like the World Cup. If you want to host the whole world, you need to be prepared to accept that people from different cultures and with different value systems are going to be there. If any gay people are brave enough to go, I'm sure they'll feel intimidated enough to keep things quiet. Yes to be fair most gay people who are travelling will be aware the country has some draconian laws, im sure they know its not like a fortnight in a European destination, its the hysterical overreaction to the government ministers comments i cant understand, it was basically sensible advice about a country where in 2022 being gay is illegal. Yeah I dont really understand the outcry.. other than you always face an outcry unless you stand 100% behind any opinions the LGBT community have. It shouldnt be there but it is.. and its an islamic country... advising people to respect that its an islamic country and that as such, it has a different culture and attitudes to ourselves doesnt seem anything to whinge about to me. Seems like sensible advice and its said alongside the Qataris assuring everyone that no one is going to have a problem if they are openly gay or trans in public.. which is actually a huge concession for an islamic nation. The elephant in the room is that no one wants to say the World Cup should never be held in any islamic country. Should they? If its the 'World' cup then that world includes lots of places that dont share our western liberal attitudes. Do we have the right to impose our moral compass on them? We dont worry about imposing it on them in our own country never mind in a different one. The other elephant in the room is that whilst all these nations are trying to be seen objecting to the Qataris in these various ways, none of them are prepared to boycott it, so their principles only go so far it seems. They could have all got together years ago and said 'No, we refuse to play the World Cup in Qatar', and simply organised their own World Cup between them. Thrown the obviously corrupt FIFA under a bus of Qatari law suits where it deserved to be. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 27, 2022 17:30:05 GMT 1
he played a full 90 on Saturday for Celtic and came on as sub on Tuesday - so still getting first team time Does he still get international games? That's what I was referring to. He's not in that Aussie video. You'd think he has one last world cup in him. Absolute class player. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Oct 27, 2022 17:36:41 GMT 1
It shouldnt be there but it is.. At the end of the day a World Cup should be held in a country where all citizens of that world feel safe to attend. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 27, 2022 17:46:39 GMT 1
It shouldnt be there but it is.. At the end of the day a World Cup should be held in a country where all citizens of that world feel safe to attend. Rules out over a hundred who criminalise LGB folk. Plus another 2 dozen who accept the above but criminalise trans gender. Dont see any of them giving the new various gender folks much leeway either. Thats not counting the countries where its not actually illegal but you cant be in any way open. Oddly they all, if they qualify, turn up in countries where its all going on? Im not sure I could live or visit where Gods Laws were being decimated in every way???🙄 |
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