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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 4, 2023 12:02:11 GMT 1
The same thing has happened with the re-branding of the Scottish leagues as well Westie.
It’s all about the branding. To sponsors, does Championship sound better than the Second Division? To them it has the look of being runners-up.
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Post by hthp on Mar 4, 2023 12:08:26 GMT 1
Dont say Division 3 ever.😔 The First Division is First😃 It’s bloody confusing the way they constantly rebrand The Leagues ! When I started off supporting Town in 1980 it was... Division 1, Division 2, Division 3, Division 4, (Champions HTAFC) 🏆 - Simple And easy to describe - 👍 Then it went to... The Premiership, Division 1, Division 2, Division 3 -
And now it’s... The Premier League, The Championship, League 1, League 2 - Is it easier to now say... Top Tier, Second Tier, Third Tier, Fourth Tier - I don’t know and when I’m in Huddersfield, I usually try to assess the age of The HTAFC fans that I’m talking to and use what I think the branding was around when they’d be supporting Town to describe the Tier we were in... Must be a nightmare for the book writers how to best describe the chronological order of the League histories of recent years - but I think it was The Truly Excellent ‘99 Years and Counting’ or it’s sister publication that made the best effort that I’ve seen of what must be a nightmare to describe in print ! I always use the correct name of the league at the time. If I'm talking about 2003/04, I'll say Division Three and so on. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 4, 2023 12:13:45 GMT 1
The same thing has happened with the re-branding of the Scottish leagues as well Westie. It’s all about the branding. To sponsors, does Championship sound better than the Second Division? To them it has the look of being runners-up. Yep ! - And The Scottish Football Authorities - being The Scottish Football Authorities - even added another Division to add to the confusion ! Although the one useful thing they did amongst a historical plethora of cock up after cock up was to introduce the pyramid system that now sees good Junior clubs like Bonnyrigg Rose join the League set up... Although I might well very rapidly have a change of heart if ma Local team Dumbarton FC end up in The Scottish Lowland League - ☹️ It ain’t happening this season tho ! 👍 |
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Post by alexdire on Mar 4, 2023 12:38:00 GMT 1
Simply really we need to win games to stay up. In our own right. Others possible points deductions shouldn't be coming into it. Not at this stage anyway.
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 4, 2023 12:41:54 GMT 1
It’s bloody confusing the way they constantly rebrand The Leagues ! When I started off supporting Town in 1980 it was... Division 1, Division 2, Division 3, Division 4, (Champions HTAFC) 🏆 - Simple And easy to describe - 👍 Then it went to... The Premiership, Division 1, Division 2, Division 3 -
And now it’s... The Premier League, The Championship, League 1, League 2 - Is it easier to now say... Top Tier, Second Tier, Third Tier, Fourth Tier - I don’t know and when I’m in Huddersfield, I usually try to assess the age of The HTAFC fans that I’m talking to and use what I think the branding was around when they’d be supporting Town to describe the Tier we were in... Must be a nightmare for the book writers how to best describe the chronological order of the League histories of recent years - but I think it was The Truly Excellent ‘99 Years and Counting’ or it’s sister publication that made the best effort that I’ve seen of what must be a nightmare to describe in print ! I always use the correct name of the league at the time. If I'm talking about 2003/04, I'll say Division Three and so on. Easiest way to do it!!. |
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Post by softboy on Mar 4, 2023 21:49:37 GMT 1
Reading will be negotiating with the EFL on the basis of how many points do they need to stay up. They lost heavily today so I guess this will mean they Ned to strike a deal with the EFL that keeps them enough points above the bottom 3 to survive
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Post by Mastercracker on Mar 4, 2023 21:52:20 GMT 1
Whatever they get won’t be affecting us. We’re coming bottom.
Worst side in the league I’ve seen, easily.
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Post by kjf on Mar 5, 2023 15:54:52 GMT 1
We've got to hope that it's 12 points
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Post by runner76 on Mar 5, 2023 15:58:00 GMT 1
We've got to hope that it's 12 points Exactly. 12 and they are totally in the bottom 4 mix….. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Mar 5, 2023 16:15:56 GMT 1
Good for them even if they were deducted 6 points we’d still finish below them.
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Post by runner76 on Mar 8, 2023 9:50:05 GMT 1
Sounds likely this will happen this week. Only 6 points. Saying that, it still drags them into the mix along with Cardiff / QPR / Brum / Rotherham
Every little helps
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Post by isitjustme on Mar 8, 2023 9:56:30 GMT 1
Even if they were deducted 60pts not 6, wouldn't make a difference to us.......unless they deducted 60pts from two others as well.....!!!
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Post by kjf on Mar 8, 2023 10:49:25 GMT 1
Sounds likely this will happen this week. Only 6 points. Saying that, it still drags them into the mix along with Cardiff / QPR / Brum / Rotherham Every little helps Think it will be more than 6 |
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Post by basil on Mar 8, 2023 12:16:04 GMT 1
Sounds likely this will happen this week. Only 6 points. Saying that, it still drags them into the mix along with Cardiff / QPR / Brum / Rotherham Every little helps Think it will be more than 6 Yes, it should be 6 plus the suspended 6. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 8, 2023 12:31:15 GMT 1
Think it will be more than 6 Yes, it should be 6 plus the suspended 6. I think it depends whether theyre judged to be still committing the same offences.. or that they just havent rectified the offences they were penalised for before as they were supposed to. |
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Post by runner76 on Mar 8, 2023 12:34:44 GMT 1
form what I had read it sounded like only 6 to be applied this week
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 8, 2023 12:47:18 GMT 1
6 pts off would certainly put them in the mix for relegation.
Just looked and they've got a pretty tough run in same as us, and theyre not exactly on form with 7 points from their last 8 games.
Think if we are going to stay up, we'll obviously have to finish above Blackpool and Wigan and it'll be QPR that we catch.
7 points to make up on them. But theyre dropping like a stone with 5 points from their last 12 games.. 6 defeats in their last 7.
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Post by space hardware on Mar 8, 2023 12:59:17 GMT 1
Catching any teams above us involves us winning games. I can't see where the next goal comes from right now, let alone the next win.
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Post by exberlinerterrier on Mar 8, 2023 12:59:30 GMT 1
Sounds likely this will happen this week. Only 6 points. Saying that, it still drags them into the mix along with Cardiff / QPR / Brum / Rotherham Every little helps Think it will be more than 6 Why? All the articles I've read suggest it will be six points. |
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Post by Colin the Caterpillar on Mar 8, 2023 13:07:29 GMT 1
As it stands, both a 6 point deduction and a 12 point deduction would drop them to 21st place
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Post by ldr on Mar 8, 2023 13:19:01 GMT 1
Catching any teams above us involves us winning games. I can't see where the next goal comes from right now, let alone the next win. I agree. When you know, you know. I sat watching last night and realised the game was up. I guess most others did too going by the empty seats and general apathy. It’s sad but true that we are shite and as good as down. |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 8, 2023 13:44:33 GMT 1
Catching any teams above us involves us winning games. I can't see where the next goal comes from right now, let alone the next win. I agree. When you know, you know. I sat watching last night and realised the game was up. I guess most others did too going by the empty seats and general apathy. It’s sad but true that we are shite and as good as down. It's a sad quote but it's true, I have always been optimistic up until this cov game, glass is now 11/twelfth empty unfortunately. |
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Post by rocky on Mar 8, 2023 14:40:40 GMT 1
Catching any teams above us involves us winning games. I can't see where the next goal comes from right now, let alone the next win. That’s where I’m at. It’s been utter shyte all season and we’re stuck with the same players. Even Warnock can’t get a tune out of them. Since the turn of the year it’s become even more obvious that the squad isn’t good enough to compete at this level. Been in the bottom 3 most of the season and that’s where we’ll finish. It’s only a matter of time and as much as it pains me to say it, we deserve to go down. |
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Post by 28901 on Mar 8, 2023 14:46:13 GMT 1
6 pts off would certainly put them in the mix for relegation. Just looked and they've got a pretty tough run in same as us, and theyre not exactly on form with 7 points from their last 8 games. Think if we are going to stay up, we'll obviously have to finish above Blackpool and Wigan and it'll be QPR that we catch. 7 points to make up on them. But theyre dropping like a stone with 5 points from their last 12 games.. 6 defeats in their last 7. These horrendous runs don't go on forever though. They only need another win and they're probably out of our reach. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 15:26:25 GMT 1
I just hope, if we get relegated, that next season we are at least in the top half of the table. I am just so fed up with with watching other teams to see if we might scrape through another season. I would take League 1 and a top half position over this.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 8, 2023 15:44:58 GMT 1
6 pts off would certainly put them in the mix for relegation. Just looked and they've got a pretty tough run in same as us, and theyre not exactly on form with 7 points from their last 8 games. Think if we are going to stay up, we'll obviously have to finish above Blackpool and Wigan and it'll be QPR that we catch. 7 points to make up on them. But theyre dropping like a stone with 5 points from their last 12 games.. 6 defeats in their last 7. These horrendous runs don't go on forever though. They only need another win and they're probably out of our reach. Might be out of our reach already the way were playing now. |
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Post by 28901 on Mar 8, 2023 17:52:37 GMT 1
I just hope, if we get relegated, that next season we are at least in the top half of the table. I am just so fed up with with watching other teams to see if we might scrape through another season. I would take League 1 and a top half position over this. Fighting relegation every season since promotion in 2012, except for promotion season and last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 18:02:53 GMT 1
I just hope, if we get relegated, that next season we are at least in the top half of the table. I am just so fed up with with watching other teams to see if we might scrape through another season. I would take League 1 and a top half position over this. Fighting relegation every season since promotion in 2012, except for promotion season and last year. I don't think it is a model that will consistently work, unless you have the very best people making the decisions, and a bit of luck. I also don't think it is the one we will use under new ownership. |
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Post by detox on Mar 8, 2023 18:37:29 GMT 1
I just hope, if we get relegated, that next season we are at least in the top half of the table. I am just so fed up with with watching other teams to see if we might scrape through another season. I would take League 1 and a top half position over this. Fighting relegation every season since promotion in 2012, except for promotion season and last year. Think it was "just enough to stay up" policy.. The Wagner era was a stroke of good fortune...Corberan era was surreal but great to see. otherwise we've never really made it as a 'regular' championship club.. Despite all the cash spent at Canalside, the re-jigging of the Academy model to same as Brentfords..we've not really felt a significant benefit in the 1st team. We've bought a few and sold at a profit but much of the 'profit' was recycled into running costs rather than broadening our recruitment base. We also never really employed top DOF or CEO..and we've also had a lot of managerial failures along the way. It's a shame really which is why, on getting to the PL..and staying another season..we were thrilled at the prospect of a 'legacy' that would set us up nicely to expand out football operations and compete at the top for a number of years...but, alas... |
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Post by goodbet on Mar 8, 2023 20:57:16 GMT 1
Fighting relegation every season since promotion in 2012, except for promotion season and last year. Think it was "just enough to stay up" policy.. The Wagner era was a stroke of good fortune...Corberan era was surreal but great to see. otherwise we've never really made it as a 'regular' championship club.. Despite all the cash spent at Canalside, the re-jigging of the Academy model to same as Brentfords..we've not really felt a significant benefit in the 1st team. We've bought a few and sold at a profit but much of the 'profit' was recycled into running costs rather than broadening our recruitment base. We also never really employed top DOF or CEO..and we've also had a lot of managerial failures along the way. It's a shame really which is why, on getting to the PL..and staying another season..we were thrilled at the prospect of a 'legacy' that would set us up nicely to expand out football operations and compete at the top for a number of years...but, alas... Don't give me the Brentford Model, we have never been near it. We tried a small scale image and lots of gambles. |
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