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Post by boooothy on Mar 20, 2023 18:37:30 GMT 1
They are still the same odds as us to get relegated. Blackpool as well. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Mar 20, 2023 18:39:30 GMT 1
When teams get points deducted it can invoke a siege mentality and can spur them on, teams have had worse punishments and gone on right runs, hopefully wigan are fkd but dont bank on it. Players haven’t been paid or paid late - not particularly motivating |
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Post by sabailand on Mar 20, 2023 18:42:42 GMT 1
When teams get points deducted it can invoke a siege mentality and can spur them on, teams have had worse punishments and gone on right runs, hopefully wigan are fkd but dont bank on it. Players haven’t been paid or paid late - not particularly motivating Hopefully thats the case here. |
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Post by Tinpot on Mar 20, 2023 18:45:42 GMT 1
They are still the same odds as us to get relegated. Blackpool as well. TBF I'm still expecting the current bottom 3 to be the ones relegated. We still have the toughest run-in. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 20, 2023 18:46:52 GMT 1
When teams get points deducted it can invoke a siege mentality and can spur them on, teams have had worse punishments and gone on right runs, hopefully wigan are fkd but dont bank on it. Players haven’t been paid or paid late - not particularly motivating A few factors involved including players playing for a move, playing for a contract next year because they may have trouble getting one anywhere else, pride in themselves? I guess when you have little or nothing to play for it can free up the team or the motivation can just disappear?? Best we win 3 or 4 games ourselves, see how it goes? |
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Post by Tinpot on Mar 20, 2023 18:46:52 GMT 1
Why? Would seem extraordinarily unfair unless there's a 2nd offence to take into account - and even then I would have thought they'd both be sentenced at the same time. According to the statement... the owner is now facing new charges that have not been taken into account by the 3 point deduction. Mind you if found guilty and if the club receives a points penalty, probably won't happen until next season. TBF I expect we'll be in the same division as them next season, so it still affects us either way. |
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Post by sabailand on Mar 20, 2023 18:52:16 GMT 1
Players haven’t been paid or paid late - not particularly motivating A few factors involved including players playing for a move, playing for a contract next year because they may have trouble getting one anywhere else, pride in themselves? I guess when you have little or nothing to play for it can free up the team or the motivation can just disappear?? Best we win 3 or 4 games ourselves, and see how it goes? Thats basically it, do what we need to do and hope others dont. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Mar 20, 2023 18:59:38 GMT 1
Biden thinks we can stay up!
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Post by johncoddington5 on Mar 20, 2023 21:00:59 GMT 1
Wigan Deducted 3 points for not paying players wages
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 20, 2023 21:04:16 GMT 1
BONUS ! 😊 - As they’re still VERY capable of picking up points against higher opposition...
Next in line please - (Huddersfield Town apart of course) !
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 20, 2023 21:10:46 GMT 1
That should effectively knock them down and remove any enthusiasm the players had. Not getting paid and getting relegated...total pisser. Two more to go, bring on Reading.
Admin note: as Wigan were being disussed here, I merged the threads and changed the title. Come and get all your deducted points hot buzzes all in one place.
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Post by onesteviekindon on Mar 20, 2023 21:59:44 GMT 1
BONUS ! 😊 - As they’re still VERY capable of picking up points against higher opposition... Next in line please - (Huddy Town apart of course) ! For God's sake Westie, I know it's a Scottish thing but will you please stop calling us Huddy!? |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 20, 2023 22:52:12 GMT 1
BONUS ! 😊 - As they’re still VERY capable of picking up points against higher opposition... Next in line please - (Huddy Town apart of course) ! For God's sake Westie, I know it's a Scottish thing but will you please stop calling us Huddy!? And without further ado... Done, Resolved, Rectificed ! - But it wouldn’t let me adjust it in this band of posts, but done in the second one down from the top ! 👍 |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 20, 2023 22:55:28 GMT 1
When teams get points deducted it can invoke a siege mentality and can spur them on, teams have had worse punishments and gone on right runs, hopefully wigan are fkd but dont bank on it. Players haven’t been paid or paid late - not particularly motivating I’ve liked this for the points deduction - certainly not for their players not getting paid tho I’m sure they’ll not starve for a while - but even tho they should be paid ! |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 20, 2023 22:58:53 GMT 1
Biden thinks we can stay up! Hopefully Biden thinks By then to Wigan ! 😉 |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 20, 2023 23:05:12 GMT 1
When teams get points deducted it can invoke a siege mentality and can spur them on, teams have had worse punishments and gone on right runs, hopefully wigan are fkd but dont bank on it. They made one HELLUVA fight of it the last time and only just fell short - Hopefully they take some anger out on some of those around Town that they’ve got to play ! |
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Post by mosher on Mar 21, 2023 12:45:34 GMT 1
I just love the lazy journalism in a couple of the tabloids.
Apparently we're getting points deducted for late accounts returned.
Neither article mentioned possible administration.
Do these journos actually CHECK what they're writing? Or their editors? Or their lawyers?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 21, 2023 13:03:34 GMT 1
I wasn't aware you could be deducted points for late submission of accounts?
Maybe you can?
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Post by leroy212 on Mar 21, 2023 13:07:25 GMT 1
I wasn't aware you could be deducted points for late submission of accounts? Maybe you can? That would be Burnley as well |
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Post by incognito on Mar 21, 2023 13:35:07 GMT 1
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Post by mosher on Mar 21, 2023 14:07:26 GMT 1
TMFA, Leroy and Incognito, that's exactly what i meant by lazy journalists.
They've seen that we've got a transfer embargo, that we've submitted our accounts late, that we may have points deducted, put 2 + 2 together and got 74.
They've lumped it all into the late accounts and completely disregarded (or not noticed) the administration part, amateurish at the very least.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 21, 2023 14:08:45 GMT 1
I just love the lazy journalism in a couple of the tabloids. Apparently we're getting points deducted for late accounts returned. Neither article mentioned possible administration. Do these journos actually CHECK what they're writing? Or their editors? Or their lawyers? Nope is the quick answer. A lot of these articles are written by freelancers and then sold to lots of different papers. They buy it and drop it in. Got to fill those pages somehow. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 21, 2023 16:44:57 GMT 1
I just love the lazy journalism in a couple of the tabloids. Apparently we're getting points deducted for late accounts returned. Neither article mentioned possible administration. Do these journos actually CHECK what they're writing? Or their editors? Or their lawyers? erm...... no |
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Post by Orinoco on Mar 21, 2023 18:21:21 GMT 1
BONUS ! 😊 - As they’re still VERY capable of picking up points against higher opposition... Next in line please - (Huddy Town apart of course) ! For God's sake Westie, I know it's a Scottish thing but will you please stop calling us Huddy!? All wear huddys in Scotland, it's that bloody cold!! |
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Post by 3Pipe on Mar 21, 2023 18:25:49 GMT 1
I wasn't aware you could be deducted points for late submission of accounts? Maybe you can? I'm not aware of any precedent for it. |
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Post by boooothy on Mar 22, 2023 21:56:23 GMT 1
They are leaving this very late and it’s all very quite.
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Post by softboy on Mar 22, 2023 23:20:59 GMT 1
If you are talking about the Reading points deduction I think we need to understand it’s not like the Wigan one where it’s automatically applied ( like Administration as well ) but a negotiated one so I really cannot see Reading accepting 6 points now, perhaps next season. As I have said in a previous post had they won at the weekend and Cardiff and us lost they they would probably taken the hit now. Negotiation to me means both parties agree to something which 6 points off is something that I cannot see Reading agreeing to at this stage of the season
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Post by boooothy on Mar 22, 2023 23:41:59 GMT 1
The relegation odds seems to have disappeared with the bookies.
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Post by runner76 on Mar 23, 2023 0:07:12 GMT 1
Well we will find out tomorrow I guess as it’s the deadline for a decision PLEASE deduct 6 off them EFL!!!
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Post by Dan on Mar 23, 2023 0:13:22 GMT 1
Well we will find out tomorrow I guess as it’s the deadline for a decision PLEASE deduct 6 off them EFL!!! Not sure that's the case about deadline being tomorrow? The EFL came up with the '4th Thursday in March' rule regarding clubs going into administration. Basically to stop clubs who were already relegated or pretty much relegated in April/May just taking a -12 point hit the same season that doesn't really affect them as they were going down anyway. Not sure there's anything in that rule that states points can't be deducted for other reasons after that time. |
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