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Post by townarentbest on Mar 10, 2023 12:45:28 GMT 1
Why do you think he feels that entitlement? He set up a structured repayment plan of his loans when the club unexpectedly reached a position where he could be repaid without any expected impediment to the ongoing competitiveness of the club on the football pitch. And then when that unexpected position was no longer the case, he stopped taking repayments, and actually started putting more IN to the club - to try and keep it viably operating whilst the hunt for new ownership could get underway. Sorry. He set up the claw back after we had received the first 200m and blown the lot and were left with a huge wage bill of utter shite unsellable dross. If he’d taken 20m first season within the budget and then when we stayed up done it again then fair dos. But he did it when we were in no real position to pay it back. He had to put money *IN* to the club during our first season - because of the way in which PL payments are structured. |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Mar 10, 2023 12:46:15 GMT 1
A lot of us have seen town in the basement and were content with that life. From Huddersfield support Huddersfield, as my father and grandfather did, and always will. I don’t give two sh*ts who the chairman is, nor have I ever. I just want a successful football team to follow. Certainly not entitled and it’s offensive that the fan base is being painted like this. The vast majority of us had our best days following town in divisions lower than this. There are 2 posters on here who,when I see their avatars,I just scroll past them.I am "entitled" to do exactly that. Not you of course Bradley. Have a dabble with the block function  |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 10, 2023 12:49:04 GMT 1
There is enough evidence in the past few years in DH having a significant say in who we sign and not e.g. Lambert, not giving Gary Roberts a contract (both he admitted were mistakes). I make the point only to outline surely you employ football people to make football decisions and hold them to account? DH made the statement that he believed that at the start of the season this squad could achieve top 6. I don't think anyone agreed with that at the time, and so it has proved. For me it is a lesson he doesn't seem to have learned or he can't resist dabbling in matters he should have delegated. Jack Hunt not coming back on loan because of Hoyle's personal grievances towards him is another. There will be others too, but I don't make the point to hit DH over the head with. My real point is he doesn't seem to have learnt over, what has been, a long period. Making mistakes is fine, just don't keep repeating them. I do wonder who he discusses decisions with. I am sure it was his wife at the Card Factory, and what a good job they made of that. I assume he didn't have the same sounding board, or someone he allowed to challenge him robustly, at the football club. It is just an observation from afar, but I think it has some merit. |
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 10, 2023 12:49:33 GMT 1
Sorry. He set up the claw back after we had received the first 200m and blown the lot and were left with a huge wage bill of utter shite unsellable dross. If he’d taken 20m first season within the budget and then when we stayed up done it again then fair dos. But he did it when we were in no real position to pay it back. He had to put money *IN* to the club during our first season - because of the way in which PL payments are structured. Because we spent more than we were given. That’s all. The timing means nothing. Something like 108m |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 10, 2023 12:54:57 GMT 1
As has been said this needs to stop and we need something to change. Sadly it does now appear to be about money. Money we don't have, money that is tied in with 3rd parties who have a claim, money that we need to keep going.
I fear that the only solution would be for a Billionaire, who sees potential in the club, to offer a deal that satisfies everyone. Sadly I suspect my wishful thinking is completely born in cloud cuckoo land.
If we do enter administration, what then? Are we not prey for the footballing investing vultures and the fate that may present?
I am struggling to see a good outcome to any of this. I sincerely hope I am completely wrong.
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Post by townarentbest on Mar 10, 2023 12:55:32 GMT 1
Why do you think he feels that entitlement? He set up a structured repayment plan of his loans when the club unexpectedly reached a position where he could be repaid without any expected impediment to the ongoing competitiveness of the club on the football pitch. And then when that unexpected position was no longer the case, he stopped taking repayments, and actually started putting more IN to the club - to try and keep it viably operating whilst the hunt for new ownership could get underway. So, whether he was "owed" it or not, taking £35m (or whatever it was) out of the football club would not impede its competitiveness on the pitch? That makes no sense at all. It makes perfect sense. As per the accounts filed year to June 2019, the structured repayment of that £35m was to take place over a period of a handful of years to complete by August 2022 (with a further £10m outstanding with no date set), whilst the club was in receipt of parachute payments, and with the expectation at that time that PH would be cashing out of a number of his businesses and (potentially with further outside investment) was banking on a return to the PL within the next 2 to 3 seasons. In the meantime, the club had a whole load of revenue streams pulled from under its feet (due to Covid response), additionally PH's businesses went up shit creek due to legislation change...and THINGS CHANGED....and Dean didn't get his £35m by August 2022, and in fact put in more money last season and this season. It's difficult to suggest that the structured repayment of the £35m has impeded the competitiveness on the pitch, given that the repayment hasn't happened 🤷♂️ |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 10, 2023 12:57:20 GMT 1
So, whether he was "owed" it or not, taking £35m (or whatever it was) out of the football club would not impede its competitiveness on the pitch? That makes no sense at all. It makes perfect sense. As per the accounts filed year to June 2019, the structured repayment of that £35m was to take place over a period of a handful of years to complete by August 2022 (with a further £10m outstanding with no date set), whilst the club was in receipt of parachute payments, and with the expectation at that time that PH would be cashing out of a number of his businesses and (potentially with further outside investment) was banking on a return to the PL within the next 2 to 3 seasons. In the meantime, the club had a whole load of revenue streams pulled from under its feet (due to Covid response), additionally PH's businesses went up shit creek due to legislation change...and THINGS CHANGED....and Dean didn't get his £35m by August 2022, and in fact put in more money last season and this season. It's difficult to suggest that the structured repayment of the £35m has impeded the competitiveness on the pitch, given that the repayment hasn't happened 🤷♂️ But it's £35m that you wouldn't be able to spend on the team, no matter how many years it was repaid over. No? |
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Post by pterrier on Mar 10, 2023 13:02:16 GMT 1
For those saying that Dean has nothing to do with transfer decisions etc, may I point you in the direction of the book Underdog where Dean is happy to point out that ‘every transfer’ goes through him and he sanctions every deal, to quote his own words:
‘Every one! Because ultimately, it’s my cash. They all come past me. Sometimes I’ll say, where’s he going to play? Sometimes I’ll knock them back and say quite frankly - what’s the point of having him here?
Another quote from the book:
You know what, I have got carried away sometimes yeah, but specially on the wages you pay or the players you buy’
Well Dean, what makes your conduct deplorable is your demand to get this money back. If you are going to make the decisions and say it’s my money so I’ll decide, then don’t ask us to foot the bill when you’ve got bored or had enough of your little vanity project. Be a man, accept you made mistakes and bite the bullet.
Town fans wake up and demand answers for goodness sake!
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Post by efesodje23 on Mar 10, 2023 13:04:51 GMT 1
For those saying that Dean has nothing to do with transfer decisions etc, may I point you in the direction of the book Underdog where Dean is happy to point out that ‘every transfer’ goes through him and he sanctions every deal, to quote his own words: ‘Every one! Because ultimately, it’s my cash. They all come past me. Sometimes I’ll say, where’s he going to play? Sometimes I’ll knock them back and say quite frankly - what’s the point of having him here? Another quote from the book: You know what, I have got carried away sometimes yeah, but specially on the wages you pay or the players you buy’ Well Dean, what makes your conduct deplorable is your demand to get this money back. If you are going to make the decisions and say it’s my money so I’ll decide, then don’t ask us to foot the bill when you’ve got bored or had enough of your little vanity project. Be a man, accept you made mistakes and bite the bullet. Town fans wake up and demand answers for goodness sake! Clap clap clap. End thread |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 10, 2023 13:14:03 GMT 1
For those saying that Dean has nothing to do with transfer decisions etc, may I point you in the direction of the book Underdog where Dean is happy to point out that ‘every transfer’ goes through him and he sanctions every deal, to quote his own words: ‘Every one! Because ultimately, it’s my cash. They all come past me. Sometimes I’ll say, where’s he going to play? Sometimes I’ll knock them back and say quite frankly - what’s the point of having him here? Another quote from the book: You know what, I have got carried away sometimes yeah, but specially on the wages you pay or the players you buy’ Well Dean, what makes your conduct deplorable is your demand to get this money back. If you are going to make the decisions and say it’s my money so I’ll decide, then don’t ask us to foot the bill when you’ve got bored or had enough of your little vanity project. Be a man, accept you made mistakes and bite the bullet. Town fans wake up and demand answers for goodness sake! will be coming in off his long run up for this one 😁 |
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Post by townarentbest on Mar 10, 2023 13:15:51 GMT 1
It makes perfect sense. As per the accounts filed year to June 2019, the structured repayment of that £35m was to take place over a period of a handful of years to complete by August 2022 (with a further £10m outstanding with no date set), whilst the club was in receipt of parachute payments, and with the expectation at that time that PH would be cashing out of a number of his businesses and (potentially with further outside investment) was banking on a return to the PL within the next 2 to 3 seasons. In the meantime, the club had a whole load of revenue streams pulled from under its feet (due to Covid response), additionally PH's businesses went up shit creek due to legislation change...and THINGS CHANGED....and Dean didn't get his £35m by August 2022, and in fact put in more money last season and this season. It's difficult to suggest that the structured repayment of the £35m has impeded the competitiveness on the pitch, given that the repayment hasn't happened 🤷♂️ But it's £35m that you wouldn't be able to spend on the team, no matter how many years it was repaid over. No? Correct, the pair of them thought the club could be competitive with £35m going out of the club. Which potentially was a reasonable thought, given that we ended up approximately 50minutes away from a return to the Premier League a year ago - assuming that whatever amount that ultimately "wasn't take out" was planned to have have been introduced via other means (Phill from his expected business sales and/or 3rd party investors) if it had happened to have actually been taken out. |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 10, 2023 13:18:45 GMT 1
For those saying that Dean has nothing to do with transfer decisions etc, may I point you in the direction of the book Underdog where Dean is happy to point out that ‘every transfer’ goes through him and he sanctions every deal, to quote his own words: ‘Every one! Because ultimately, it’s my cash. They all come past me. Sometimes I’ll say, where’s he going to play? Sometimes I’ll knock them back and say quite frankly - what’s the point of having him here? Another quote from the book: You know what, I have got carried away sometimes yeah, but specially on the wages you pay or the players you buy’ Well Dean, what makes your conduct deplorable is your demand to get this money back. If you are going to make the decisions and say it’s my money so I’ll decide, then don’t ask us to foot the bill when you’ve got bored or had enough of your little vanity project. Be a man, accept you made mistakes and bite the bullet. Town fans wake up and demand answers for goodness sake! will be coming in off his long run up for this one 😁 I can't wait  |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 10, 2023 13:21:23 GMT 1
But it's £35m that you wouldn't be able to spend on the team, no matter how many years it was repaid over. No? Correct, the pair of them thought the club could be competitive with £35m going out of the club. Which potentially was a reasonable thought, given that we ended up approximately 50minutes away from a return to the Premier League a year ago - assuming that whatever amount that ultimately "wasn't take out" was planned to have have been introduced via other means (Phill from his expected business sales and/or 3rd party investors) if it had happened to have actually been taken out. I can't see any conceivable way that Hodgkinson's business interests could have covered the shortfall, if and when the £35m was taken out. I just don't think he could ever have been in that sphere of wealth, operating in such a competitive and volatile industry. It's all immaterial now though, as there's no way on Fuller's Earth that Hoyle can expect someone to pony up the kind of cash he's looking for. |
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Post by prepare on Mar 10, 2023 13:22:40 GMT 1
if you are a true fan you support them in any division on that there is no argument I am sorry mate that is a bit naive. How many people want to support the team but currently feel alienated from the club? I have never felt so disheartened by what I have witnessed this season. I want to support the team, and show solidarity with my fellow fans, but I am disenfranchised with the club. I understand your point and it’s your choice saw my first game when I was seven sixty nine years ago have seen ups and downs but still a fan and that is my choice utt |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2023 13:43:24 GMT 1
For all those saying DH wanting all the money out, right now the only ones wanting all the money are the PURE Admins, if DH pays this then he will lose all the money PH paid to him during his time in charge this is not going to happen.
Right now I see 4 possible outcomes
1, we stay up, new owners come in clear everything up we move on.
(Most unlikely)
2, admin in next couple of weeks to clear the mess up, DH buys back of admins and completes a sale in the summer.
3, PURE admins agree to deal on the table, we stay up and new deal agreed with new owners.
4, PURE a admins agree to deal on the table, we go down a new buyer comes in or DH continues to fund until one is found.
2 is most likely today, 4 has legs still but PURE admins need to come to the table.
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Post by dalesterrier on Mar 10, 2023 13:52:30 GMT 1
For all those saying DH wanting all the money out, right now the only ones wanting all the money are the PURE Admins, if DH pays this then he will lose all the money PH paid to him during his time in charge this is not going to happen. Right now I see 4 possible outcomes 1, we stay up, new owners come in clear everything up we move on. (Most unlikely) 2, admin in next couple of weeks to clear the mess up, DH buys back of admins and completes a sale in the summer. 3, PURE admins agree to deal on the table, we stay up and new deal agreed with new owners. 4, PURE a admins agree to deal on the table, we go down a new buyer comes in or DH continues to fund until one is found. 2 is most likely today, 4 has legs still but PURE admins need to come to the table. And you think new owners are already lined up? |
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Post by ldr on Mar 10, 2023 13:55:52 GMT 1
For those saying that Dean has nothing to do with transfer decisions etc, may I point you in the direction of the book Underdog where Dean is happy to point out that ‘every transfer’ goes through him and he sanctions every deal, to quote his own words: ‘Every one! Because ultimately, it’s my cash. They all come past me. Sometimes I’ll say, where’s he going to play? Sometimes I’ll knock them back and say quite frankly - what’s the point of having him here? Another quote from the book: You know what, I have got carried away sometimes yeah, but specially on the wages you pay or the players you buy’ Well Dean, what makes your conduct deplorable is your demand to get this money back. If you are going to make the decisions and say it’s my money so I’ll decide, then don’t ask us to foot the bill when you’ve got bored or had enough of your little vanity project. Be a man, accept you made mistakes and bite the bullet. Town fans wake up and demand answers for goodness sake! This is so good, I think it deserves its own thread! 😜 |
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Post by goodbet on Mar 10, 2023 13:56:23 GMT 1
Why does Hoyle feel he is entitled to the club’s money that we made via promotion to the PL + parachute payments? He spunked and wasted his own cash on Diakhaby and Mbenza’s galore, selling them for nothing. Not the club’s fault, but IMO he is entitled for wanting the club’s mone Why does Hoyle feel he is entitled to the club’s money that we made via promotion to the PL + parachute payments? he doesn’t, he wants a fair amount back based on the extra he has had to put in to keep us in business. especially the money since PH had to pull out.
When did he say that he wants a fair amount back as I have not seen that statement anywhere?
He spunked and wasted his own cash on Diakhaby and Mbenza’s galore, selling them for nothing. No he didn’t he spent the clubs money on Diakhaby and Mbenza and yes in hindsight it was a bad move and the people advising that these two would be good at the time were wrong, DH is not a player expert he employs people to do this job who failed.
The people who failed were employed by Hoyle. When you are at the top you have to accept that ultimately you carry the can!
From a post by Pterrier:-
Dean is happy to point out that ‘every transfer’ goes through him and he sanctions every deal, to quote his own words:
‘Every one! Because ultimately, it’s my cash. They all come past me. Sometimes I’ll say, where’s he going to play? Sometimes I’ll knock them back and say quite frankly - what’s the point of having him here?
Another quote from the book:
You know what, I have got carried away sometimes yeah, but specially on the wages you pay or the players you buy’
Not the club’s fault, but IMO he is entitled for wanting the club’s money it is the clubs fault, doesn’t matter who the owner is the club is spending this money based on group decisions admittedly sanctioned by DH, Dean would be the first to admit he would do the premier league different if he could go back in time, however at the time the potential to establish ourselves as a top tier club was worth the risk and it was all calculated at the time. The problem now is nothing to do with Premier league but to do with PH and the money owed to PURE companies that is stopping us moving forward, DH has made a good offer to all concerned to sort this mess out and the ADMINS are refusing to take this offer or negotiate at this time, the only step now is admin for HTAFC unless the pure admins actually wake up and have some common sense and accept the deal on the table as for sure it will be better than they will get from Admin of HTAFC, the ball is in their court and time is running out.
How do you know it is a good offer that Dean made?
I think that the Pure administrators just don't care about Town and if we go bust. Without seeing the offer, I think that the administrators may think that they have not got much to loose so may as well hold out for the big bucks.
Once DH writes his book or does an interview at some point when all is sorted and he can speak more freely many on here will change there minds and work out they were wrong.
Well he is not saying much at the moment is he? I hope he can prove whatever he does say when he does write his book.
Mistakes have been made this is not in doubt, every football club owner makes mistakes but I am 100% sure that none of the mistakes are made on purpose and number 1 for DH has always been safeguarding the future of HTAFC. There comes a time when you cant continue to throw money at it though especially when there is another option that will speed the whole process up without another penny being spent.
The funding that is leading us to League 1 is not safeguarding the future.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Mar 10, 2023 14:19:18 GMT 1
For all those saying DH wanting all the money out, right now the only ones wanting all the money are the PURE Admins, if DH pays this then he will lose all the money PH paid to him during his time in charge this is not going to happen. Right now I see 4 possible outcomes 1, we stay up, new owners come in clear everything up we move on. (Most unlikely) 2, admin in next couple of weeks to clear the mess up, DH buys back of admins and completes a sale in the summer. 3, PURE admins agree to deal on the table, we stay up and new deal agreed with new owners. 4, PURE a admins agree to deal on the table, we go down a new buyer comes in or DH continues to fund until one is found. 2 is most likely today, 4 has legs still but PURE admins need to come to the table. Surely as a 25% stakeholder he wouldn't be allowed to put the club into admin (which is basically an admission of financial mismanagement at all levels) and then be able to buy it back for some ridiculous rate? That seems like an obvious financial loophole that would have been closed years ago? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 10, 2023 14:26:08 GMT 1
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Post by Sparrow on Mar 10, 2023 14:27:31 GMT 1
@htafc35 may I ask who the people were who advised DH on Diakhaby, Mbenza and others? From memory we have no DoF of HoF and our transfers were done by a Transfer Committee. I'd be interested to know who these advisers were and what their roles were at Town. Diakhaby, Mbenza and Lolo were from the book of the ex Celtic fella who didnt stay long and am sure he had left before we signed them ? I cant remember his name, Moss, maybe ? I remember Lolo was from Moss, but not sure the other 2 were? as they were signed a long time after he left. He joined in June and left in October 2017 and they were signed the following summer. Perhaps Olaf Rebe who joined in the May....And then left the following January? Interestingly Moss is now Global Head of Football for a Football Agency. Levi Colwill and Tino Anjorin are clients of the Agency. Rebbe is Sporting Director at FC Nuremburg |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Mar 10, 2023 14:28:08 GMT 1
I have an awful lot of sympathy for Hoyle. It should have been a dream him, as a fan, taking his club to the promised land. Sadly, the whole club was unprepared and had too few experienced heads to chart our path. Possibly Hoyle’s fault but, having achieved ‘the impossible’ and with his background it’s easy to see why he thought we would cope.
As a fan, he invested heavily. Who wouldn’t? Imagine the flack he’d have got if, having got there, we were relegated straight back down having never ‘given it a go’.
He was let down badly in the recruitment department. He got ill and, presumably, got pissed off at seeing loads of players etc getting rich for very little on the back of his investment. Mbenza probably left us a millionaire on Hoyle’s investment whilst Hoyle himself was £60m down. We can’t say that wouldn’t grate! No wonder his opinions on his loans changed.
Now, I’m sure Kroll think they’ve hit the jackpot. They have Phil over a barrel, 16,000 angry football fans demanding an outcome and Hoyle, hands tied, being seen as a cash cow they can try pump cash out of to grease their palms. Does he dance to their tune or risk losing the £30m+ the club still owes him (plus his reputation) to secure what he sees as a fair deal?
He deserved a far better outcome than that he has endured.
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Post by H6dds on Mar 10, 2023 14:45:44 GMT 1
I have an awful lot of sympathy for Hoyle. It should have been a dream him, as a fan, taking his club to the promised land. Sadly, the whole club was unprepared and had too few experienced heads to chart our path. Possibly Hoyle’s fault but, having achieved ‘the impossible’ and with his background it’s easy to see why he thought we would cope. As a fan, he invested heavily. Who wouldn’t? Imagine the flack he’d have got if, having got there, we were relegated straight back down having never ‘given it a go’.He was let down badly in the recruitment department. He got ill and, presumably, got pissed off at seeing loads of players etc getting rich for very little on the back of his investment. Mbenza probably left us a millionaire on Hoyle’s investment whilst Hoyle himself was £60m down. We can’t say that wouldn’t grate! No wonder his opinions on his loans changed. Now, I’m sure Kroll think they’ve hit the jackpot. They have Phil over a barrel, 16,000 angry football fans demanding an outcome and Hoyle, hands tied, being seen as a cash cow they can try pump cash out of to grease their palms. Does he dance to their tune or risk losing the £30m+ the club still owes him (plus his reputation) to secure what he sees as a fair deal? He deserved a far better outcome than that he has endured. This is why we are where we are now. You have to put the clubs best interests first at all times if you are the chairman, not give in for pressure from fans or get carried away by your own ego. I believe being a fan and a very hands-on chairman at the same time always was a recipe for disaster, it worked whilst we were in the championship but when we got promoted he lost all perspectives and spent money we/he didn't have on the wrong investments/players without a clear thought through plan. You could also argue this was the case in his first season(s) in charge down in league one but obviously there was a lot smaller fees involved so wasn't as dangerous. Dean's best seasons as our owner if you look at it rationally was when we slowly but steadily got higher and higher in the championship year on year whilst selling players every summer to balance the books, this was the closest to "Brentford-model" we ever got but it was also a time he got a lot of stick from fans who wanted us to spend more and be more competetive. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Mar 10, 2023 14:50:20 GMT 1
There is enough evidence in the past few years in DH having a significant say in who we sign and not e.g. Lambert, not giving Gary Roberts a contract (both he admitted were mistakes). I make the point only to outline surely you employ football people to make football decisions and hold them to account? DH made the statement that he believed that at the start of the season this squad could achieve top 6. I don't think anyone agreed with that at the time, and so it has proved. For me it is a lesson he doesn't seem to have learned or he can't resist dabbling in matters he should have delegated. Jack Hunt not coming back on loan because of Hoyle's personal grievances towards him is another. Add O’Brien and Toff to that list also. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 10, 2023 14:54:13 GMT 1
Thats exactly whats happened isnt it.. except the profit line, he never wanted or attempted that. many fans dont seem happy to go along with that principle though. They think its his duty to them and the club to leave his money in the club as a gift and to continue pumping in much more of his money annually on top of that, whilst they continually abuse him about it not being enough and for mistakes hes made. he chose to get involved.. no one forced him.....and that apparently means the club ,according to some of its fans.. the poor suffering victims shall we call them,,, , are entitled to however much of his money it takes to make their hobby more enjoyable. and that he possesses a time machine to ensure he doesnt make any bad decisions. The fans all chose to get involved too...no one forced them either. Lets all pay double what we do so the club can buy a better player?? Yeah right, join the long queue for that one! Think certain others have taken the entitled thing to heart.. its why they bitterly bring it up every other day. Thing is if the club had been run properly after we got to prem DH would not be needing to lose/pump more money into the club It's because of his decisions that we are where we are. Yes he put money in to get us there (although he did say whilst doing this he didn't expect the money back) If he wanted the money back he should of taken it then, then he and the club could have started from a positive position ie deano got his cash town didn't owe anyone So any outstanding monies earned would have been the clubs. We seem to be in a position of being royally fkd by people who claim to be fans. Just hope Colin can perform a Jesus type miracle coz I fear for us. Royally fucked by people who claim to be fans? Hes putting £100,000 a week into a club he doesnt even own to keep it functioning, and knowing in all likelihood he'll never see it again. And that is royally fucking 'us'....the fans who stump up our £250 a year?? the 'didnt expect the money back' line is so tired. Of course he didnt expect the money back! The only way the club would ever be able to pay him it back would be if we got to the prem,, and I dont know about you but I never expected that to happen either! If you give a fiver to a brassic mate so he can get something to eat,, but on top of the sandwich he also buys a scratch card and wins £1m...I think most people would probably expect the guy to repay you the fiver at least,,even if you weren't expected it back when you gave him it.! |
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Post by Huddy Town Black Sox on Mar 10, 2023 15:17:37 GMT 1
Diakhaby, Mbenza and Lolo were from the book of the ex Celtic fella who didnt stay long and am sure he had left before we signed them ? I cant remember his name, Moss, maybe ? I remember Lolo was from Moss, but not sure the other 2 were? as they were signed a long time after he left. He joined in June and left in October 2017 and they were signed the following summer. Perhaps Olaf Rebe who joined in the May....And then left the following January? Interestingly Moss is now Global Head of Football for a Football Agency. Levi Colwill and Tino Anjorin are clients of the Agency. Rebbe is Sporting Director at FC Nuremburg Yes they were from the book of Moss, Appen if he were still at the club he may have said " hold fire these two have not progressed how i thought they would " before we signed them |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2023 15:22:55 GMT 1
For all those saying DH wanting all the money out, right now the only ones wanting all the money are the PURE Admins, if DH pays this then he will lose all the money PH paid to him during his time in charge this is not going to happen. Right now I see 4 possible outcomes 1, we stay up, new owners come in clear everything up we move on. (Most unlikely) 2, admin in next couple of weeks to clear the mess up, DH buys back of admins and completes a sale in the summer. 3, PURE admins agree to deal on the table, we stay up and new deal agreed with new owners. 4, PURE a admins agree to deal on the table, we go down a new buyer comes in or DH continues to fund until one is found. 2 is most likely today, 4 has legs still but PURE admins need to come to the table. And you think new owners are already lined up? DB is flogging his nuts off almost 24/7 to find a buyer, time is running out. |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Mar 10, 2023 15:34:58 GMT 1
Seen a suggestion on here, a few times, that Dean may allow the club to go into administration and then buy it back. Would this be allowed by the FA/Football league? And do we think he’d pass the fit and proper test if he tried it?
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Post by Big Ern on Mar 10, 2023 15:39:03 GMT 1
Thing is if the club had been run properly after we got to prem DH would not be needing to lose/pump more money into the club It's because of his decisions that we are where we are. Yes he put money in to get us there (although he did say whilst doing this he didn't expect the money back) If he wanted the money back he should of taken it then, then he and the club could have started from a positive position ie deano got his cash town didn't owe anyone So any outstanding monies earned would have been the clubs. We seem to be in a position of being royally fkd by people who claim to be fans. Just hope Colin can perform a Jesus type miracle coz I fear for us. Royally fucked by people who claim to be fans? Hes putting £100,000 a week into a club he doesnt even own to keep it functioning, and knowing in all likelihood he'll never see it again. And that is royally fucking 'us'....the fans who stump up our £250 a year?? the 'didnt expect the money back' line is so tired. Of course he didnt expect the money back! The only way the club would ever be able to pay him it back would be if we got to the prem,, and I dont know about you but I never expected that to happen either! If you give a fiver to a brassic mate so he can get something to eat,, but on top of the sandwich he also buys a scratch card and wins £1m...I think most people would probably expect the guy to repay you the fiver at least,,even if you weren't expected it back when you gave him it.! Again flawed. He chose not to take back his investment and instead spent 10s and 10s of millions on absolute shit. Only then when the bubble burst and we were going down with a squad full of crap did he set up a deal to take back his money from the parachute payments. We then ended up with nothing as the players he signed were worthless and he sold the club to a guy without a pot to piss in. Every one of those are actions he took without a gun to his head. We are where we are as a result of his rank bad decisions. Not because of the fans 250 quid a year. |
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Post by willo on Mar 10, 2023 15:41:22 GMT 1
Seen a suggestion on here, a few times, that Dean may allow the club to go into administration and then buy it back. Would this be allowed by the FA/Football league? And do we think he’d pass the fit and proper test if he tried it? I think Dean just needs to sell up and move on, for the good of himself and the fans. Then we can have a proper re-set with a new owner. |
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