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Post by prepare on Mar 23, 2023 12:17:00 GMT 1
out of interest is the "window" for administration a 5pm thing, or 11pm like the transfer window? Just so I know when to breathe a small sigh of relief before the new  of Town related anxiety kicks in. I think it’s safe to say you can sigh now😀 |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 23, 2023 12:56:29 GMT 1
On a purely inquisitive note, does this mean that the little people (normal folk who lost their jobs, local suppliers etc.) embroiled in the administration of Pure Group, will now receive a better deal through that process, or does it not make much difference?
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Post by conman on Mar 23, 2023 13:02:11 GMT 1
On a purely inquisitive note, does this mean that the little people (normal folk who lost their jobs, local suppliers etc.) embroiled in the administration of Pure Group, will now receive a better deal through that process, or does it not make much difference? It probably means potless won't be as potless.. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 23, 2023 13:06:06 GMT 1
Let's hope this has some degree of upside for those people though.
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Post by heckyterrier66 on Mar 23, 2023 14:15:58 GMT 1
I say very little about what happens at the club. But this week big things are set to happen. Also in around 6 months time many things that have been kept very quiet will be disclosed and made public. Is this big enough lol and by the way it's 48 million he as lost. Some folks should be ashamed for the shit they have given him. He as never had anything but good intentions for the club. |
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Post by Town1971 on Mar 23, 2023 14:37:46 GMT 1
Time to archive this thread .
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Post by hthp on Mar 23, 2023 14:53:29 GMT 1
I say very little about what happens at the club. But this week big things are set to happen. Also in around 6 months time many things that have been kept very quiet will be disclosed and made public. Is this big enough lol and by the way it's 48 million he as lost. Some folks should be ashamed for the shit they have given him. He as never had anything but good intentions for the club. Was some of that shit not brought on himself due to numerous lies and bollocks he came out with during his tenure? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 23, 2023 15:05:24 GMT 1
Time to archive this thread . Dutch Cap it?😉 |
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Post by Tez on Mar 23, 2023 15:39:12 GMT 1
Close thread.. some pearlers on it 🤣🤦🏼♂️
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Post by morleyterrier on Mar 23, 2023 18:35:22 GMT 1
As I posted early doors on page 5 or 10 of this thread or whatever it was.
The assumptions, ‘facts’, attacks on individuals (all fuelled by knowledge of course).
Laughable.
Most of those posting on this thread (in an accusatory manner to the Club and certain individuals) knew the square root of fuck all as to what was going on at the Club in relation to this matter.
I stand by that (pilloried) post.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 23, 2023 19:18:47 GMT 1
Let's hope this has some degree of upside for those people though. Sadly no chance unless cross guarantees exist |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 23, 2023 20:28:21 GMT 1
Jesus wept, even after all this there are still folk who, if they came home and found Dean hanging out the back of their wife, would knock him up a full English while he finished the job. The problems here started and are ending with Dean, with Phil being just a brief interlude. The man's arrogance is trumped only by the disdain he now holds Town fans in. He has the power to stop all of this, and always has had. Those who still have their noses firmly up his back door will scoff at that, but ultimately when he took the club on he took on a responsibility that he is still capable of fulfilling, but is choosing not to. It almost feels like he's grown to resent the club. Maybe because of his illness, I don't know. What I do know is it's fucking grim right now. And the most worrying thing is the apathy many of us feel. Everything things inevitable, and many of us has lost the fire in our bellies to even be angry about it any more. And every time someone says shite like "well you buy the club then" or "Dean is putting his own money in" it does the club no favours. It's his fucking job. One he chose to do. No one is asking him to sign Haaland and Mbappe but fucking hell, standing idly by waving your IOUs while the club disintegrates is pretty fucking despicable. And I have it on good authority that the way he's been conducting negotiations with the Pure admins and the Yanks has been childish, naïve and risky, as well as fundamentally dishonest - so much so this is why the Yanks have lost interest. Someone mentioned a statue of Den being called for a few years back. I'd have helped build the fucker. Now if there was one I'd be using it as a urinal. The sooner he is out of our club the better. And I hope he never comes back. 60 people liked this post. I haven't seen 60 apologies and gagman has been very quiet given his big mouth. DATM has so many sheep and playground bullies. Those of us who believed that Dean would do his best for the club he loves have been vindicated. I wish more folk would be fair, balanced and do their own thinking instead of jumping on the bandwagon. The hysteria and character assassination on here has been truly shameful and embarrassing. Have a nice day |
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Post by morleyterrier on Mar 23, 2023 20:42:34 GMT 1
Jesus wept, even after all this there are still folk who, if they came home and found Dean hanging out the back of their wife, would knock him up a full English while he finished the job. The problems here started and are ending with Dean, with Phil being just a brief interlude. The man's arrogance is trumped only by the disdain he now holds Town fans in. He has the power to stop all of this, and always has had. Those who still have their noses firmly up his back door will scoff at that, but ultimately when he took the club on he took on a responsibility that he is still capable of fulfilling, but is choosing not to. It almost feels like he's grown to resent the club. Maybe because of his illness, I don't know. What I do know is it's fucking grim right now. And the most worrying thing is the apathy many of us feel. Everything things inevitable, and many of us has lost the fire in our bellies to even be angry about it any more. And every time someone says shite like "well you buy the club then" or "Dean is putting his own money in" it does the club no favours. It's his fucking job. One he chose to do. No one is asking him to sign Haaland and Mbappe but fucking hell, standing idly by waving your IOUs while the club disintegrates is pretty fucking despicable. And I have it on good authority that the way he's been conducting negotiations with the Pure admins and the Yanks has been childish, naïve and risky, as well as fundamentally dishonest - so much so this is why the Yanks have lost interest. Someone mentioned a statue of Den being called for a few years back. I'd have helped build the fucker. Now if there was one I'd be using it as a urinal. The sooner he is out of our club the better. And I hope he never comes back. 60 people liked this post. I haven't seen 60 apologies and gagman has been very quiet given his big mouth. DATM has so many sheep and playground bullies. Those of us who believed that Dean would do his best for the club he loves have been vindicated. I wish more folk would be fair, balanced and do their own thinking instead of jumping on the bandwagon. The hysteria and character assassination on here has been truly shameful and embarrassing. Have a nice day The silence and how quiet the gob shites of late have now gone says it all. This is arguably the best post I have seen on here. I (as will be the same for many) have nothing whatsoever to add. |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 23, 2023 21:19:43 GMT 1
I say very little about what happens at the club. But this week big things are set to happen. Also in around 6 months time many things that have been kept very quiet will be disclosed and made public. Is this big enough lol and by the way it's 48 million he as lost. Some folks should be ashamed for the shit they have given him. He as never had anything but good intentions for the club. Is that about the difference in what we paid for TK, Diakhaby, Mbenza and Pritchard compared to what we got back 🤔 |
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Post by Maynardblue on Mar 23, 2023 21:38:23 GMT 1
Jesus wept, even after all this there are still folk who, if they came home and found Dean hanging out the back of their wife, would knock him up a full English while he finished the job. The problems here started and are ending with Dean, with Phil being just a brief interlude. The man's arrogance is trumped only by the disdain he now holds Town fans in. He has the power to stop all of this, and always has had. Those who still have their noses firmly up his back door will scoff at that, but ultimately when he took the club on he took on a responsibility that he is still capable of fulfilling, but is choosing not to. It almost feels like he's grown to resent the club. Maybe because of his illness, I don't know. What I do know is it's fucking grim right now. And the most worrying thing is the apathy many of us feel. Everything things inevitable, and many of us has lost the fire in our bellies to even be angry about it any more. And every time someone says shite like "well you buy the club then" or "Dean is putting his own money in" it does the club no favours. It's his fucking job. One he chose to do. No one is asking him to sign Haaland and Mbappe but fucking hell, standing idly by waving your IOUs while the club disintegrates is pretty fucking despicable. And I have it on good authority that the way he's been conducting negotiations with the Pure admins and the Yanks has been childish, naïve and risky, as well as fundamentally dishonest - so much so this is why the Yanks have lost interest. Someone mentioned a statue of Den being called for a few years back. I'd have helped build the fucker. Now if there was one I'd be using it as a urinal. The sooner he is out of our club the better. And I hope he never comes back. 60 people liked this post. I haven't seen 60 apologies and gagman has been very quiet given his big mouth. DATM has so many sheep and playground bullies. Those of us who believed that Dean would do his best for the club he loves have been vindicated. I wish more folk would be fair, balanced and do their own thinking instead of jumping on the bandwagon. The hysteria and character assassination on here has been truly shameful and embarrassing. Have a nice day Maybe some are waiting to see who he's actually selling to? Only then will we know if he's genuinely doing his best for the club. He's rightly getting credit for writing off most of his debt. He's getting his money from canalside and stadium shares. This isn't a dig, just saying. Just as much as the histrionics were OTT yesterday some of the sanctimony today based on a blatant PR Daily Fail piece is just as bad. Dean Hoyle is a Town fan. No doubt. He wouldn't see us go under no doubt about that but let's wait and see the ambitions of who he's chosen (albeit plan B) as next custodians. |
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Post by ben1987 on Mar 23, 2023 21:44:49 GMT 1
Jesus wept, even after all this there are still folk who, if they came home and found Dean hanging out the back of their wife, would knock him up a full English while he finished the job. The problems here started and are ending with Dean, with Phil being just a brief interlude. The man's arrogance is trumped only by the disdain he now holds Town fans in. He has the power to stop all of this, and always has had. Those who still have their noses firmly up his back door will scoff at that, but ultimately when he took the club on he took on a responsibility that he is still capable of fulfilling, but is choosing not to. It almost feels like he's grown to resent the club. Maybe because of his illness, I don't know. What I do know is it's fucking grim right now. And the most worrying thing is the apathy many of us feel. Everything things inevitable, and many of us has lost the fire in our bellies to even be angry about it any more. And every time someone says shite like "well you buy the club then" or "Dean is putting his own money in" it does the club no favours. It's his fucking job. One he chose to do. No one is asking him to sign Haaland and Mbappe but fucking hell, standing idly by waving your IOUs while the club disintegrates is pretty fucking despicable. And I have it on good authority that the way he's been conducting negotiations with the Pure admins and the Yanks has been childish, naïve and risky, as well as fundamentally dishonest - so much so this is why the Yanks have lost interest. Someone mentioned a statue of Den being called for a few years back. I'd have helped build the fucker. Now if there was one I'd be using it as a urinal. The sooner he is out of our club the better. And I hope he never comes back. 60 people liked this post. I haven't seen 60 apologies and gagman has been very quiet given his big mouth. DATM has so many sheep and playground bullies. Those of us who believed that Dean would do his best for the club he loves have been vindicated. I wish more folk would be fair, balanced and do their own thinking instead of jumping on the bandwagon. The hysteria and character assassination on here has been truly shameful and embarrassing. Have a nice day Absolutely no apology from me. Non. You’ve been silent for how long now? Then the club throws a statement out about the sale of the club and all of a sudden everything’s ok? Oh please, I’m not buying the PR horseshit one bit. First of all, the Dutch deal was subject to EFL approval, which they didn’t get. Secondly, the administration threat was real. A bargaining chip quite possibly, but it was used. All of a sudden from the shadows the likes of yourself and that class clown Morley have shown up to tell us how great Hoyle is because the headlines say he’s wrote his debts off, there was no admin and the Americans were always the chosen ones. I’m not fooled by the clubs statement and given the fact that we as fans have been kept in the dark during this entire process is a disgrace. Stadium shares? Canalside? Potential relegation? Who are these owners? These are just some of the questions that need answering. You’re far too easily pleased Pete and you are having the wool well and truly pulled over your eyes. Today is just the start, you can tell me how great Hoyle is and he’s done what’s best for the club…. That’s because he’s had to. |
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Post by Cosmo Kramer on Mar 23, 2023 21:53:03 GMT 1
60 people liked this post. I haven't seen 60 apologies and gagman has been very quiet given his big mouth. DATM has so many sheep and playground bullies. Those of us who believed that Dean would do his best for the club he loves have been vindicated. I wish more folk would be fair, balanced and do their own thinking instead of jumping on the bandwagon. The hysteria and character assassination on here has been truly shameful and embarrassing. Have a nice day Absolutely no apology from me. Non. You’ve been silent for how long now? Then the club throws a statement out about the sale of the club and all of a sudden everything’s ok? Oh please, I’m not buying the PR horseshit one bit. First of all, the Dutch deal was subject to EFL approval, which they didn’t get. Secondly, the administration threat was real. A bargaining chip quite possibly, but it was used. All of a sudden from the shadows the likes of yourself and that class clown Morley have shown up to tell us how great Hoyle is because the headlines say he’s wrote his debts off, there was no admin and the Americans were always the chosen ones. I’m not fooled by the clubs statement and given the fact that we as fans have been kept in the dark during this entire process is a disgrace. Stadium shares? Canalside? Potential relegation? Who are these owners? These are just some of the questions that need answering. You’re far too easily pleased Pete and you are having the wool well and truly pulled over your eyes. Today is just the start, you can tell me how great Hoyle is and he’s done what’s best for the club…. That’s because he’s had to. How do people know the Dutch deal wasn’t ratified by the EFL? I’ve seen a few people allude to it, but no articles or reports to back it up |
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Post by dezzly on Mar 23, 2023 21:54:31 GMT 1
60 people liked this post. I haven't seen 60 apologies and gagman has been very quiet given his big mouth. DATM has so many sheep and playground bullies. Those of us who believed that Dean would do his best for the club he loves have been vindicated. I wish more folk would be fair, balanced and do their own thinking instead of jumping on the bandwagon. The hysteria and character assassination on here has been truly shameful and embarrassing. Have a nice day Maybe some are waiting to see who he's actually selling to? Only then will we know if he's genuinely doing his best for the club. He's rightly getting credit for writing off most of his debt. He's getting his money from canalside and stadium shares. This isn't a dig, just saying. Just as much as the histrionics were OTT yesterday some of the sanctimony today based on a blatant PR Daily Fail piece is just as bad. Dean Hoyle is a Town fan. No doubt. He wouldn't see us go under no doubt about that but let's wait and see the ambitions of who he's chosen (albeit plan B) as next custodians. Well said.While I may get accused of sucking ass for that. I myself last 3/4(maybe more) days have to admit that I may have lost some sort of sense of calm and reality and probably said a few things that I shouldn’t.that said yes it seems to be the complete opposite from some now. I think to be honest from both sides it’s simply just a want and a need to know what’s going on because the uncertainty has been there for a while now. Add in the fact that the season has been rank bad and most are probably at their tipping point. It probably hasn’t helped with all the misinformation leaked here there and everywhere which has resulted in whipping everyone up. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Mar 23, 2023 21:54:55 GMT 1
60 people liked this post. I haven't seen 60 apologies and gagman has been very quiet given his big mouth. DATM has so many sheep and playground bullies. Those of us who believed that Dean would do his best for the club he loves have been vindicated. I wish more folk would be fair, balanced and do their own thinking instead of jumping on the bandwagon. The hysteria and character assassination on here has been truly shameful and embarrassing. Have a nice day Absolutely no apology from me. Non. You’ve been silent for how long now? Then the club throws a statement out about the sale of the club and all of a sudden everything’s ok? Oh please, I’m not buying the PR horseshit one bit. First of all, the Dutch deal was subject to EFL approval, which they didn’t get. Secondly, the administration threat was real. A bargaining chip quite possibly, but it was used. All of a sudden from the shadows the likes of yourself and that class clown Morley have shown up to tell us how great Hoyle is because the headlines say he’s wrote his debts off, there was no admin and the Americans were always the chosen ones. I’m not fooled by the clubs statement and given the fact that we as fans have been kept in the dark during this entire process is a disgrace. Stadium shares? Canalside? Potential relegation? Who are these owners? These are just some of the questions that need answering. You’re far too easily pleased Pete and you are having the wool well and truly pulled over your eyes. Today is just the start, you can tell me how great Hoyle is and he’s done what’s best for the club…. That’s because he’s had to. In fairness Ben it doesnt sound like you have been kept in the dark if you know as much as you've said in that post. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 23, 2023 21:59:31 GMT 1
Absolutely no apology from me. Non. You’ve been silent for how long now? Then the club throws a statement out about the sale of the club and all of a sudden everything’s ok? Oh please, I’m not buying the PR horseshit one bit. First of all, the Dutch deal was subject to EFL approval, which they didn’t get. Secondly, the administration threat was real. A bargaining chip quite possibly, but it was used. All of a sudden from the shadows the likes of yourself and that class clown Morley have shown up to tell us how great Hoyle is because the headlines say he’s wrote his debts off, there was no admin and the Americans were always the chosen ones. I’m not fooled by the clubs statement and given the fact that we as fans have been kept in the dark during this entire process is a disgrace. Stadium shares? Canalside? Potential relegation? Who are these owners? These are just some of the questions that need answering. You’re far too easily pleased Pete and you are having the wool well and truly pulled over your eyes. Today is just the start, you can tell me how great Hoyle is and he’s done what’s best for the club…. That’s because he’s had to. How do people know the Dutch deal wasn’t ratified by the EFL? I’ve seen a few people allude to it, but no articles or reports to back it up I find it hard to believe that the football league reviewed their bid and finances in two days. They take an age to do anything |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 23, 2023 22:06:46 GMT 1
The Dutch deal never went to the EFL, the EFL take weeks to investigate not a couple of days, the deal with the Americans was put together over the weekend after DH completed the share purchase.
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Post by bells ringing :) on Mar 23, 2023 22:07:51 GMT 1
The Dutch deal never went to the EFL, the EFL take weeks to investigate not a couple of days, the deal with the Americans was put together over the weekend after DH completed the share purchase. Are you happy/ excited about this takeover? do you have an idea who has taken over? |
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Post by Maynardblue on Mar 23, 2023 22:08:53 GMT 1
How do people know the Dutch deal wasn’t ratified by the EFL? I’ve seen a few people allude to it, but no articles or reports to back it up I find it hard to believe that the football league reviewed their bid and finances in two days. They take an age to do anything Their reservations have been known to the club for a while. But only once they see the final deal can they make final comment on it |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Mar 23, 2023 22:09:42 GMT 1
I find it hard to believe that the football league reviewed their bid and finances in two days. They take an age to do anything Their reservations have been known to the club for a while. But only once they see the final deal can they make final comment on it Why would they have an issue with it? The same model is in place at Brentford and Watford |
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Post by terriers321 on Mar 23, 2023 22:10:39 GMT 1
Dont no why these weird fellas are popping up on here today expecting apologies.
Im absolutely buzzing hes pissed off. Onto the next chapter.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 23, 2023 22:17:37 GMT 1
60 people liked this post. I haven't seen 60 apologies and gagman has been very quiet given his big mouth. DATM has so many sheep and playground bullies. Those of us who believed that Dean would do his best for the club he loves have been vindicated. I wish more folk would be fair, balanced and do their own thinking instead of jumping on the bandwagon. The hysteria and character assassination on here has been truly shameful and embarrassing. Have a nice day Maybe some are waiting to see who he's actually selling to? Only then will we know if he's genuinely doing his best for the club. He's rightly getting credit for writing off most of his debt. He's getting his money from canalside and stadium shares. This isn't a dig, just saying. Just as much as the histrionics were OTT yesterday some of the sanctimony today based on a blatant PR Daily Fail piece is just as bad. Dean Hoyle is a Town fan. No doubt. He wouldn't see us go under no doubt about that but let's wait and see the ambitions of who he's chosen (albeit plan B) as next custodians. Fair points other than saying that the sanctimony today is as bad as the OTT histrionics of yesterday. The histrionics have been going on for a long time |
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Post by Porrohman on Mar 23, 2023 22:20:39 GMT 1
Their reservations have been known to the club for a while. But only once they see the final deal can they make final comment on it Why would they have an issue with it? The same model is in place at Brentford and Watford Finances ? |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 23, 2023 22:21:55 GMT 1
60 people liked this post. I haven't seen 60 apologies and gagman has been very quiet given his big mouth. DATM has so many sheep and playground bullies. Those of us who believed that Dean would do his best for the club he loves have been vindicated. I wish more folk would be fair, balanced and do their own thinking instead of jumping on the bandwagon. The hysteria and character assassination on here has been truly shameful and embarrassing. Have a nice day Absolutely no apology from me. Non. You’ve been silent for how long now? Then the club throws a statement out about the sale of the club and all of a sudden everything’s ok? Oh please, I’m not buying the PR horseshit one bit. First of all, the Dutch deal was subject to EFL approval, which they didn’t get. Secondly, the administration threat was real. A bargaining chip quite possibly, but it was used. All of a sudden from the shadows the likes of yourself and that class clown Morley have shown up to tell us how great Hoyle is because the headlines say he’s wrote his debts off, there was no admin and the Americans were always the chosen ones. I’m not fooled by the clubs statement and given the fact that we as fans have been kept in the dark during this entire process is a disgrace. Stadium shares? Canalside? Potential relegation? Who are these owners? These are just some of the questions that need answering. You’re far too easily pleased Pete and you are having the wool well and truly pulled over your eyes. Today is just the start, you can tell me how great Hoyle is and he’s done what’s best for the club…. That’s because he’s had to. Your are so naive, if you want to know all the details of a confidential takeover buy it yourself, you have no right to know these details, buy it yourself if you want to know the details . ” Kept in the dark during this entire process”, this is a transaction of a private company involving confidential details and private individuals conducting their private buisness you have no right to know anything, to me you just come across as a complete entitled clown living in a world where you think you should know everyone’s private affairs.imo. |
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Post by tockyterrier on Mar 23, 2023 22:23:51 GMT 1
60 people liked this post. I haven't seen 60 apologies and gagman has been very quiet given his big mouth. DATM has so many sheep and playground bullies. Those of us who believed that Dean would do his best for the club he loves have been vindicated. I wish more folk would be fair, balanced and do their own thinking instead of jumping on the bandwagon. The hysteria and character assassination on here has been truly shameful and embarrassing. Have a nice day Absolutely no apology from me. Non. You’ve been silent for how long now? Then the club throws a statement out about the sale of the club and all of a sudden everything’s ok? Oh please, I’m not buying the PR horseshit one bit. First of all, the Dutch deal was subject to EFL approval, which they didn’t get. Secondly, the administration threat was real. A bargaining chip quite possibly, but it was used. All of a sudden from the shadows the likes of yourself and that class clown Morley have shown up to tell us how great Hoyle is because the headlines say he’s wrote his debts off, there was no admin and the Americans were always the chosen ones. I’m not fooled by the clubs statement and given the fact that we as fans have been kept in the dark during this entire process is a disgrace. Stadium shares? Canalside? Potential relegation? Who are these owners? These are just some of the questions that need answering. You’re far too easily pleased Pete and you are having the wool well and truly pulled over your eyes. Today is just the start, you can tell me how great Hoyle is and he’s done what’s best for the club…. That’s because he’s had to. Seems like you think you know more than you actually do to me. However bad you feel about what's happened to our club, its cost you a few hundred quid a year. Imagine how DH feels, being just as much if not more of a fan as you and cost him around £5m a year and gets the likes of you slagging him off in to the bargain? |
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Post by Maynardblue on Mar 23, 2023 22:23:51 GMT 1
Maybe some are waiting to see who he's actually selling to? Only then will we know if he's genuinely doing his best for the club. He's rightly getting credit for writing off most of his debt. He's getting his money from canalside and stadium shares. This isn't a dig, just saying. Just as much as the histrionics were OTT yesterday some of the sanctimony today based on a blatant PR Daily Fail piece is just as bad. Dean Hoyle is a Town fan. No doubt. He wouldn't see us go under no doubt about that but let's wait and see the ambitions of who he's chosen (albeit plan B) as next custodians. Fair points other than saying that the sanctimony today is as bad as the OTT histrionics of yesterday. The histrionics have been going on for a long time Yeah probably not quite a bad to be fair lol |
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