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Post by heckyterrier66 on Mar 23, 2023 16:15:13 GMT 1
Jeez... That’s a helluva lot of cash to lose... I think (if true) we surely all have to say to Mr Hoyle “Yanks Dean” ! 🥃 🥃 48 million to be more precise. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 23, 2023 16:19:10 GMT 1
Jeez... That’s a helluva lot of cash to lose... I think (if true) we surely all have to say to Mr Hoyle “Yanks Dean” ! 🥃 🥃 48 million to be more precise. I hope for those that care about such things, that qualifies as 'owning' the situation! |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 23, 2023 16:27:50 GMT 1
Shame the rent at Canalside will go up to £1m a week for the next year
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Post by prepare on Mar 23, 2023 16:31:17 GMT 1
there was a load of disinformation posted about what was going on, and people reacted to that (incl me)...so maybe folk will stop posting rubbish and unfounded 'facts' in future ? As it is, i'm waiting for the details of this deal before making any comments now.. Think thats right. people are getting very excited ( understandably I think ) before they know anything about who these people are or what sort of ambitions they have for the club. sllThat said, its probably telling the one person who probably will,, Hoyles,, has written off so much money so they get it. That has to be a positive sign. I probably favoured the dutch interest simply because I knew something about the people involved and what they'd been doing at AZ, which seems very impressive. but until we know the details of the North American people and what theyre about, its impossible to form an opinion really. that is a fair point but the fact that we now have some direction at last releases some of the tension and yes vitriol that as been posted utt |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 23, 2023 16:34:38 GMT 1
Shame the rent at Canalside will go up to £1m a week for the next year I'll stick some nets up in my back garden and only charge them £100k a week. Millions saved already  |
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Post by Maynardblue on Mar 23, 2023 16:52:36 GMT 1
So was this Dean having one last laugh at the ITK posters by feeding them a load of bollocks? Or, the Dutch were set to takeover but something happened last minute which meant it wouldn't go through so 'Plan B' had to be put in place. Something EFL shaped perhaps? I think it's worth saying at this stage that DH was writing off similar levels of debt for the Dutch bid so he he would deserve kudos even if that hadn't fallen through. I'm certainly glad it did though! |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 23, 2023 17:02:39 GMT 1
Gave you the hint, all done and dusted Tuesday, EFL approvals now required, just didn’t dare post before this morning as the people concerned would have know, sorry for keeping you in suspenders ! Have you just quoted your own post there? Sorry Portugal, but thats a clear yellow card offence .  Trying for a red, any advice 😉 |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 23, 2023 17:03:05 GMT 1
Or, the Dutch were set to takeover but something happened last minute which meant it wouldn't go through so 'Plan B' had to be put in place. Something EFL shaped perhaps? I think it's worth saying at this stage that DH was writing off similar levels of debt for the Dutch bid so he he would deserve kudos even if that hadn't fallen through. I'm certainly glad it did though! Maybe. It seems the deal was pretty much done with the Dutch, so seems strange that it was changed at seemingly the last minute. In regard to Dean writing off this debt, it may be gone on paper (as in the accounts will show that it has gone) but it seems a rather large shift in attitude from him to write it off when for the past however long its been sat on the books. Makes me wonder about the detail of the deal. Dean doesnt strike me as a man who is willing to walk away from such a sum of money without getting something in return for it at some point. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 23, 2023 17:05:38 GMT 1
Something EFL shaped perhaps? I think it's worth saying at this stage that DH was writing off similar levels of debt for the Dutch bid so he he would deserve kudos even if that hadn't fallen through. I'm certainly glad it did though! Maybe. It seems the deal was pretty much done with the Dutch, so seems strange that it was changed at seemingly the last minute. In regard to Dean writing off this debt, it may be dont on paper (as in the accounts will show that it has gone) but it seems a rather large shift in attitude from him to write it off when for the past however long its been sat on the books. Makes me wonder about the detail of the deal. Dean doesnt strike me as a man who is willing to walk away from such a sum of money without getting something in return for it at some point. I doubt he sold the club for a quid if he's written the club debt off aswell? |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 23, 2023 17:15:55 GMT 1
If money were his main motivation he would just have put us in administration and clawed back a few million. Is there any potential for him to get some future tax relief from writing the loans off? On the other side of the equation, I suppose HTAFC will end up with a not insignificant tax bill when it eventually hits the P&L... HTFC will not pay corporation tax whilst i'm alive. I would be surprised if in their whole history have paid more than £250,000. |
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Post by Wingman on Mar 23, 2023 17:18:19 GMT 1
Gave you the hint, all done and dusted Tuesday, EFL approvals now required, just didn’t dare post before this morning as the people concerned would have know, sorry for keeping you in suspenders ! Have you just quoted your own post there? Sorry Portugal, but thats a clear yellow card offence . ‘Goes to check VA….er….the site rulebook….playbook…..etc’ |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 23, 2023 17:19:24 GMT 1
No names, believe there California based. From Beverley Hills to Castle Hill. Castle hill is far more impressive. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Mar 23, 2023 17:23:52 GMT 1
Shame the rent at Canalside will go up to £1m a week for the next year  |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 23, 2023 17:26:55 GMT 1
From Beverley Hills to Castle Hill. Castle hill is far more impressive. Once saw Dawn coming over the horizon in Beverly Hills. She was very late home as well😉 |
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Post by Tiro on Mar 23, 2023 17:29:16 GMT 1
Well done Dean for not going down the Dutch route 👏 I never doubted you 😆😆🤥 I still waiting on details of these guys though, this isn't the billionaire moores group this is someone else. They were the group that attended the Coventry game. They attended the Cov game and still chose to invest!? They can't be trusted.... |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Mar 23, 2023 17:33:32 GMT 1
Maybe. It seems the deal was pretty much done with the Dutch, so seems strange that it was changed at seemingly the last minute. In regard to Dean writing off this debt, it may be dont on paper (as in the accounts will show that it has gone) but it seems a rather large shift in attitude from him to write it off when for the past however long its been sat on the books. Makes me wonder about the detail of the deal. Dean doesnt strike me as a man who is willing to walk away from such a sum of money without getting something in return for it at some point. I doubt he sold the club for a quid if he's written the club debt off aswell? A very easy an potential way of getting round it. Write the debt off, looks great to the fans who doubted him but sell the club for £50m and at the same time recoup all his money owed. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 23, 2023 17:33:43 GMT 1
They were the group that attended the Coventry game. They attended the Cov game and still chose to invest!? They can't be trusted.... Perhaps they are going to become “true” supporters , through thick and thin and all that. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 23, 2023 17:36:38 GMT 1
I doubt he sold the club for a quid if he's written the club debt off aswell? A very easy an potential way of getting round it. Write the debt off, looks great to the fans who doubted him but sell the club for £50m and at the same time recoup all his money owed. I can assure you there is a minimal purchase price, in fact at the outset, purchase price nil, loans w/off, maybe that has changed but my info , right or wrong that the purchase price hasn’t materially changed. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 23, 2023 17:39:12 GMT 1
I doubt he sold the club for a quid if he's written the club debt off aswell? A very easy an potential way of getting round it. Write the debt off, looks great to the fans who doubted him but sell the club for £50m and at the same time recoup all his money owed. He'll have definitely taken a hit but he's not written the debt off and given the club away for nothing. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 23, 2023 17:44:02 GMT 1
A very easy an potential way of getting round it. Write the debt off, looks great to the fans who doubted him but sell the club for £50m and at the same time recoup all his money owed. He'll have definitely taken a hit but he's not written the debt off and given the club away for nothing. How do you know ? |
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 23, 2023 17:44:27 GMT 1
Have you just quoted your own post there? Sorry Portugal, but thats a clear yellow card offence . Trying for a red, any advice 😉 I find likening one of the admins to Stalin usually does it! |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 23, 2023 17:45:41 GMT 1
He'll have definitely taken a hit but he's not written the debt off and given the club away for nothing. How do you know ? He's a business man. |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 23, 2023 17:47:35 GMT 1
Trying for a red, any advice 😉 I find likening one of the admins to Stalin usually does it! Think I’ll stick to abusing the occasional “ offensive” poster, there certainly is plenty to go at. |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Mar 23, 2023 17:48:02 GMT 1
Hook, Line and Sinker.
Feel DH and co have played a blinder here. A thread that provided 2 outliers in opinion (htafc35 and Maynard), 2 opposite sides of the spectrum (both respected posters (who clearly have more insight than some of us). To create a somewhat disruptive marketing campaign, that divided opinion and to indirectly force the hand of potential suitors. Play them both off each other, get a better feel for fans opinion, but also create a higher demand on new ownership needed, out with the old, and in with the new etc.
If DH knew about a potential EFL hiccup (RE: Dutch bid) (He'd have been fairly in the loop I'd imagine with DB involved, who don't forget worked within the FA and EFL, then propped up some instigating, DA Capital group (with a newly created, poor draft of a same day website), big debate on a fans forum, drip fed a little misguided info to some press. Then it's a masterstroke.
I cased a very strong opinion here (earlier in the thread), but I can't help but feel there were a few subtle indirect hints from some really key posters "The Americans watch this site" or something of the ilk.
If this was a play (similar to a poker), it's worked a treat.
Maybe, just maybe the US Consortium on initial bid were a little bit short of the Dutch bid, so a forced hand was dealt, to either get a bigger and better commitment, or to call bluff.
If that's not the case, and I'm clutching at straws here then so be it.
IF DH has wiped away the debt (even if its for the books) then fair play.
NONE of us know how this will and could turn out, it could be a disaster, but it could also be amazing. Time will tell.
What I do know though, is we have some hope for the future, some belief, some excitement again. That's all we can ask.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 23, 2023 17:48:18 GMT 1
A very easy an potential way of getting round it. Write the debt off, looks great to the fans who doubted him but sell the club for £50m and at the same time recoup all his money owed. I can assure you there is a minimal purchase price, in fact at the outset, purchase price nil, loans w/off, maybe that has changed but my info , right or wrong that the purchase price hasn’t materially changed. That being the case we should have got a group up from DATM to take it on. With our patented DATM time machine ready for action we'd be a shoe-in for champions league glory in 2 or 3 years!! |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 23, 2023 17:51:04 GMT 1
Whatever he’s managed to extract in the way of selling price he’s welcome to it,imo. Considering some of the absolute weapons on here he’s probably paid the yanks to take it if his hands 😂😂 |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 23, 2023 18:02:02 GMT 1
Whatever he’s managed to extract in the way of selling price he’s welcome to it,imo. Considering some of the absolute weapons on here he’s probably paid the yanks to take it if his hands 😂😂 He should get as much out of the new owners as possible. He should make a few quid on canalside aswell if that's part of the deal? No doubt he'll have taken a big hit and fair play to him for that. Clean slate for the club now and hopefully the new owners (no idea who they are yet) Can get the club pointing in the right direction again. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Mar 23, 2023 18:06:07 GMT 1
So what happened htafc35 ? It dramatically changed. I am happy however North American involvement sounds exciting, hopefully we find out more in the comming days / weeks. Time to conectrate on staying in this league now with a much more positive feeling around the club, players, staff and fans after this and the last couple of results i hope the confidnce and belief returns just in time oh and hopefully we hear something about Reading. I was wondering moreso if you had any idea why the sudden change. Thanks for the reply anyhow. |
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Post by space hardware on Mar 23, 2023 18:09:23 GMT 1
Whatever he’s managed to extract in the way of selling price he’s welcome to it,imo. Considering some of the absolute weapons on here he’s probably paid the yanks to take it if his hands 😂😂 Ooooooof, the irony 😂😂😂 |
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Post by portugalterrier on Mar 23, 2023 18:26:50 GMT 1
Whatever he’s managed to extract in the way of selling price he’s welcome to it,imo. Considering some of the absolute weapons on here he’s probably paid the yanks to take it if his hands 😂😂 Ooooooof, the irony 😂😂😂 I’m not in the same league as some on here, even if I tried. |
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