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Post by westislandterrier on Apr 11, 2023 9:41:51 GMT 1
Can’t help but feel we’ve been a bit screwed over by the way the fixtures have fallen. Having to play a top team a few days before the Reading game gives every other side a nice full week of recovery To compound this we’ve had Cardiff moved closer to the Sheff Utd game. Going to be a massive physical demand on us in that 8/9 day period if we find ourselves having to claw back let’s say 3 points. Ideally Sheff U will be up by then and coasting. Cardiff have some tough fixtures to come and they travel to Burnley on the final day. Our trip down there will be pivotal, as will their match at Rotherham. Burnley will be on the beech by then for sure - However the saving grace is that the clash with Cardiff is likely to be their big presentation day and they will want to put on a show for the world to see that day... Also someone had said a bit back that they could be needing to win that day to achieve or surpass 100 points which again would be a useful motivational weapon for The Clarets ! |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 11, 2023 9:56:18 GMT 1
Cardiff have some tough fixtures to come and they travel to Burnley on the final day. Our trip down there will be pivotal, as will their match at Rotherham. Burnley will be on the beech by then for sure - However the saving grace is that the clash with Cardiff is likely to be their big presentation day and they will want to put on a show for the world to see that day... Also someone had said a bit back that they could be needing to win that day to achieve or surpass 100 points which again would be a useful motivational weapon for The Clarets ! I wood hope so. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 11, 2023 10:01:37 GMT 1
Cardiff have some tough fixtures to come and they travel to Burnley on the final day. Our trip down there will be pivotal, as will their match at Rotherham. Burnley will be on the beech by then for sure - However the saving grace is that the clash with Cardiff is likely to be their big presentation day and they will want to put on a show for the world to see that day... Also someone had said a bit back that they could be needing to win that day to achieve or surpass 100 points which again would be a useful motivational weapon for The Clarets ! I still hope they cane them… |
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Post by crux on Apr 11, 2023 10:02:37 GMT 1
Can’t help but feel we’ve been a bit screwed over by the way the fixtures have fallen. Having to play a top team a few days before the Reading game gives every other side a nice full week of recovery To compound this we’ve had Cardiff moved closer to the Sheff Utd game. Going to be a massive physical demand on us in that 8/9 day period if we find ourselves having to claw back let’s say 3 points. Ideally Sheff U will be up by then and coasting. I'm thinking 'glass half full' and that by the time we play Cardiff we might already be safe 🤣. If we can get 3 or 4 points from the Swansea and Sunderland games, it is possible for either Reading or QPR to be more than 3 points behind us by then. Which would make us safe as they'd both only have 1 game to play 😗 |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 11, 2023 10:24:26 GMT 1
I don’t think you can under estimate the importance of getting something out of these next 2 games. Not because of the bleeding obvious statement that is, but more the fact other teams then have plenty of opportunities before we play Cardiff. It’s imperative that we have some clear daylight before our fixture break. In some respects it’s like an International break period for us, let’s hope it doesn’t skew our momentum.
Here’s hoping the Swans are now resigned to mid table & their supporters would be quite happy for us to keep ahead of their best mates, a few miles down the road…
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Post by ruggedivy on Apr 11, 2023 10:37:54 GMT 1
Next 3 games are there for the taking. Only QPR has a worst home record in the form table than Swans, Sunderland and Cardiff. No better time to visiting their patch. Let's get this done and dusted before the last home games of the season thefishy.co.uk/formtable.php?table=2 |
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Post by capitalterrier on Apr 11, 2023 10:41:47 GMT 1
Realistically I think I'd be happy with 2 points from the next 2 and keep the unbeaten run going. Yesterday we were lucky to avoid a real hammering - Vaclik was easily motm.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Apr 11, 2023 10:51:52 GMT 1
Can’t help but feel we’ve been a bit screwed over by the way the fixtures have fallen. Having to play a top team a few days before the Reading game gives every other side a nice full week of recovery To compound this we’ve had Cardiff moved closer to the Sheff Utd game. Going to be a massive physical demand on us in that 8/9 day period if we find ourselves having to claw back let’s say 3 points. Ideally Sheff U will be up by then and coasting. I'm thinking 'glass half full' and that by the time we play Cardiff we might already be safe 🤣. If we can get 3 or 4 points from the Swansea and Sunderland games, it is possible for either Reading or QPR to be more than 3 points behind us by then. Which would make us safe as they'd both only have 1 game to play 😗 Heady times for HTAFC - who would have thought we would even consider such totals a few weeks ago? |
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 11, 2023 11:30:57 GMT 1
TBH I think there's so much uncertainty that even with just 5 games to go, any predictions are difficult to have confidence in.
With 5 games to go, Blackpool and Wigan look dead and buried, but 5 games ago we were level on points with both (and below Blackpool on GD). Worth noting that they have to play each other and whoever wins gives themselves hope.
After that, Cardiff, QPR, Reading, Rotherham and ourselves are so close.
Will Reading's sacking of Paul Ince galvanise them for the run in?
Will QPR's fightback from 2-0 down give them belief that it's not over?
Have Cardiff turned a corner?
Then there's the flukes. The games where a side gets an undeserved win (as we very nearly did yesterday), or a nasty bobble, unexpected deflection, odd referee decision.... etc.
Still very much at the stage where just picking up as many points as possible is the order of the day. A lucky bounce for one side or another could well be what separates who goes down and who stays up.
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Post by Stewpot on Apr 11, 2023 12:25:20 GMT 1
For what it's worth, I think the Blades at home could be pivotal. Stick in there with the next 3 away games. If they seal promotion the game before us, the task should be easier. If they haven't clinched it....who knows?
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 11, 2023 12:46:43 GMT 1
For what it's worth, I think the Blades at home could be pivotal. Stick in there with the next 3 away games. If they seal promotion the game before us, the task should be easier. If they haven't clinched it....who knows? And... We really don't want Billy Sharp to play that night. He is on a personal mission to score against us at every single opportunity!  |
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Post by crux on Apr 11, 2023 13:07:38 GMT 1
For what it's worth, I think the Blades at home could be pivotal. Stick in there with the next 3 away games. If they seal promotion the game before us, the task should be easier. If they haven't clinched it....who knows? And... We really don't want Billy Sharp to play that night. He is on a personal mission to score against us at every single opportunity! Just put REG on a man marking job and he'll get wound up in about 5 minutes |
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Post by runner76 on Apr 11, 2023 13:25:43 GMT 1
Realistically I think I'd be happy with 2 points from the next 2 and keep the unbeaten run going. Yesterday we were lucky to avoid a real hammering - Vaclik was easily motm. 2 points at two away games wouldn’t be at all bad, but be fantastic if we can bag 3 or more to take some pressure of the last three…….mad to think we could likely be safe after the next two if we keep up current form!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 14:33:01 GMT 1
Realistically I think I'd be happy with 2 points from the next 2 and keep the unbeaten run going. Yesterday we were lucky to avoid a real hammering - Vaclik was easily motm. 2 points at two away games wouldn’t be at all bad, but be fantastic if we can bag 3 or more to take some pressure of the last three…….mad to think we could likely be safe after the next two if we keep up current form!!! We somehow managed to get two points from consecutive away trips to Man City and Chelsea five years since, this should be a doddle in comparison !  |
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Post by crux on Apr 11, 2023 14:34:10 GMT 1
2 points at two away games wouldn’t be at all bad, but be fantastic if we can bag 3 or more to take some pressure of the last three…….mad to think we could likely be safe after the next two if we keep up current form!!! We somehow managed to get two points from consecutive away trips to Man City and Chelsea five years since, this should be a doddle in comparison ! Should have beaten Man City as well 😉😗 |
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Post by dxterrier on Apr 11, 2023 15:02:39 GMT 1
I think the Swansea game is the crucial one, firstly lets pray that the way were torn a new one second half yesterday, hasn't fractured confidence, which lets be honest has been somewhat fragile all season. Secondly with cardiff playing Sheff U and reading playing Burnley(or t'other way round) then a win at Swansea could really open a decent gap
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Post by softboy on Apr 11, 2023 15:15:09 GMT 1
Over Easter we got 4 points, as did Rotherham. The bottom 2 got 0 and are now unlikely to catch us. Reading got 1 as did QPR and Cardiff 3. So overall that’s a very good weekend. We will have a hiccup I’m sure but if around 47/48 is enough to stay up then I feel we can do it
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Post by richhtfc on Apr 11, 2023 15:29:49 GMT 1
Next 3 games are there for the taking. Only QPR has a worst home record in the form table than Swans, Sunderland and Cardiff. No better time to visiting their patch. Let's get this done and dusted before the last home games of the season thefishy.co.uk/formtable.php?table=2It’s a good stat, although sure I read Swans have best possession stats in the division (maybe not after yesterday), it it will likely have to be a similar set up/performance to the last two. |
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Post by softboy on Apr 11, 2023 15:41:29 GMT 1
From what I’ve seen Swansea can have 80% possession and create a few chances, Blackburn with 80% create loads and only some poor finishing (first half) and heroic defending (second half) stopped them. I not sure we all realise what a good point it was for us, in the end.
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Post by runner76 on Apr 11, 2023 15:49:11 GMT 1
2 points at two away games wouldn’t be at all bad, but be fantastic if we can bag 3 or more to take some pressure of the last three…….mad to think we could likely be safe after the next two if we keep up current form!!! We somehow managed to get two points from consecutive away trips to Man City and Chelsea five years since, this should be a doddle in comparison ! That night at Chelsea is an all time Top 5 match for me - legendary night!!!!! |
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Post by Yank on Apr 11, 2023 16:39:42 GMT 1
Not sure how we are gonna do these last few games but alcohol will be in supply and my lady is a nurse so I told her to be on standby if I need to be resuscitated lol.
UTT!
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Post by detox on Apr 11, 2023 17:01:13 GMT 1
Can’t help but feel we’ve been a bit screwed over by the way the fixtures have fallen. Having to play a top team a few days before the Reading game gives every other side a nice full week of recovery To compound this we’ve had Cardiff moved closer to the Sheff Utd game. Going to be a massive physical demand on us in that 8/9 day period if we find ourselves having to claw back let’s say 3 points. Ideally Sheff U will be up by then and coasting. Not sure about this..after we've played Sunderland we have 11 days off before we play at Cardiff, during which period Cardiff have played 3 games..they have 2 days recovery after 3 games in 9 days.. |
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Post by detox on Apr 11, 2023 17:07:23 GMT 1
A table version of the next month to visualize where we need points. Quite a few interesting "6 pointers" in there. All to play for   will update after the easter break once i've finished eating all my chocolate. when you've finished your chocs will you be updating the rearranged fixture dates as well..eg cardiff v rovrum 27th, and cardiff v town 30th...there may be others ? |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Apr 11, 2023 17:09:26 GMT 1
Hopefully by time we play them Sunderland will be mathematically incapable of a playoff spot and Swansea will have nothing to play for so these are the real target games. Win and a draw from these just might do it.
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Post by stevvy on Apr 11, 2023 17:49:43 GMT 1
Both Sunderland and Swansea can mathematically get in the playoffs (this still applies to Sunderland regardless of any combination of results this coming weekend, they can be anywhere from 1-7 points off the playoffs by the time we play them)
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Post by rockwall on Apr 11, 2023 17:53:37 GMT 1
Getting at least 3 or 4 points from these 2 could be huge psychologically.
Because of our 12 day break when others play 2 or 3 times, we could be back in the bottom 3 before our last 3 games if we do not get a result in one or both of these fixtures.
After digging out of a deep hole, being back in it won't be good mentally and itl be like being back at square 1 after all the hard work, it would still be in our hands, but the pressure will be higher.
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Post by Hazza on Apr 11, 2023 22:06:29 GMT 1
When I look at the run in I can talk myself into us needing 49/50 points to stay up and then I look at the form table and the fact that Reading haven’t won since February and think that them and qpr are not both going to go on a run that gets them more than a point a game. Reality is we need at least one win from next two to make us breath a little easier. thefishy.co.uk/formtable.php?table=2 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 5:44:50 GMT 1
Getting at least 3 or 4 points from these 2 could be huge psychologically. Because of our 12 day break when others play 2 or 3 times, we could be back in the bottom 3 before our last 3 games if we do not get a result in one or both of these fixtures. After digging out of a deep hole, being back in it won't be good mentally and itl be like being back at square 1 after all the hard work, it would still be in our hands, but the pressure will be higher. That’s the problem with any contest. Fall out of the starting stalls and get left miles behind, a huge effort to get back in contention for the final furlong can be very, very hard to maintain momentum right to the line. |
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Post by irverino on Apr 12, 2023 9:11:13 GMT 1
Anyone tempted to go to Swansea on Saturday via train then the fares are pretty reasonable with one way tickets (no railcard) still priced at £39-20 (to Swa 6-15/12-03-to Hud 17-54/23-59), same price also for Cardiff but no early trains on a Sunday........coach down, train back after a few celebration beers?
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Post by sabailand on Apr 12, 2023 13:46:05 GMT 1
We're all guilty of overthinking things, our mindset will change again on saturday for better or worse, and the game after that until we hopefully get mathematically safe, being football fans its all perfectly understandable but just try not to make yourself sick with worry, think back to just after those two hammerings v Burnley and Coventry, many threw in the towel (some even before that), now we have a genuinely good chance of survival.
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