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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Apr 29, 2023 22:24:08 GMT 1
Really hope we get it done tomorrow, mainly because in 13 attempts I've managed to not see us win live since Luton in the play off semi final, and I'll be at the last two home games. It won't matter whether you are there or not. I used to have a lucky pair of socks that I would wear and We would win. Then I went to game without said pair and We won . It turned out our winning was not down to my lucky socks but Mick Buxton picking the team. How do you know Mick Buxton wasn't in cahoots with your mum about what socks you were wearing? |
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Post by melbourneterrier on Apr 30, 2023 3:23:53 GMT 1
Well, QPR and Cardiff are now mathematically safe.
Wigan and Blackpool are down.
This leaves the last spot down to us, Reading or Rotherham.
Rotherham only need a draw against Boro to confirm their safety. They may be safe even with a loss. It would take a series of results for them to go down. The only way I can see it happening is if Boro beats them, Reading beat us AND we take 3 points from Cardiff/Sheffield United
To put it simply:
Looks like it's down to us and Reading.
If we get 6 or 4 points in the next 2 games, we avoid the relegation shoot out and the result against Reading doesn't matter.
If we get 3 points in the next 2 games, then we could potentially stay up even with a loss against Reading (depending on goal difference - How much we win our game by, and then how bad we lose the other fixtures). Anything but losing to Reading here would guarantee our survival
If we get 1 or 2 points in the next 2 games, then we anything but a loss to Reading means we stay up
If we fail to pick up ANY points in the next 2 games, then the only we can stay up is by beating Reading.
If we beat Reading on the final day then obviously we stay up regardless of what happens at Cardiff or against Sheffield United.
Had Reading NOT got that late equalizer, then either a win in any of our 3 games would have kept us safe. A draw against Reading may have been enough depending on how Wigan fare in their last game.
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Post by twyford on Apr 30, 2023 7:45:34 GMT 1
Well, QPR and Cardiff are now mathematically safe. Wigan and Blackpool are down. This leaves the last spot down to us, Reading or Rotherham. Rotherham only need a draw against Boro to confirm their safety. They may be safe even with a loss. It would take a series of results for them to go down. The only way I can see it happening is if Boro beats them, Reading beat us AND we take 3 points from Cardiff/Sheffield United To put it simply: Looks like it's down to us and Reading. If we get 6 or 4 points in the next 2 games, we avoid the relegation shoot out and the result against Reading doesn't matter. If we get 3 points in the next 2 games, then we could potentially stay up even with a loss against Reading (depending on goal difference - How much we win our game by, and then how bad we lose the other fixtures). Anything but losing to Reading here would guarantee our survival If we get 1 or 2 points in the next 2 games, then we anything but a loss to Reading means we stay up If we fail to pick up ANY points in the next 2 games, then the only we can stay up is by beating Reading. If we beat Reading on the final day then obviously we stay up regardless of what happens at Cardiff or against Sheffield United. Had Reading NOT got that late equalizer, then either a win in any of our 3 games would have kept us safe. A draw against Reading may have been enough depending on how Wigan fare in their last game. We would need to beat Cardiff (or Sheffield) by 3 goals and then only lose the other two games by a single goal for this to be possible (as a loss to Reading by a goal would improve their GD by one as well as reduce ours). If we only beat Cardiff (or Sheff) by 2 then losing the other two games by a single goal would see us level on GD with Reading but with them having scored more over the season they would finish above us. We would have to score 6 over the next two games and lose to Reading by a single goal to end up with a better goals scored total than them by the end of the season. |
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Post by jonbrno on Apr 30, 2023 9:44:24 GMT 1
If we lose today a) we would drop back into the bottom 3 today and b) it would go down to the final match no matter what we do against Sheff U.
Am not that convinced how "on the beach" Sheff Utd are after their 4-1 win yesterday. But would be more than happy with a point today, our away record at Cardiff is terrible.
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Post by tepidterrier on Apr 30, 2023 9:54:20 GMT 1
Cardiff are more likely to be on the beach than Sheff. They've had a 2 day turnaround after winning the big six pointer that's kept them in the league and on their current pay packets. They'll have been on the piss.
Blunts are a different proposition I think. If they play fringe players, they'll be extra keen to show they have the quality to be part of the squad next year. And they're in the winning habit- even when we had playoffs secured last season we kept winning because we were on a roll.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Apr 30, 2023 10:08:42 GMT 1
Can you imagine how tense it is in our house? We could both be playing in the Championship, both in playing in League One, or one in each - which could be either way round. 🫣
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 30, 2023 15:12:36 GMT 1
There is a new scenario just come into play...
Two defeats for Rovrum (home to Middlesbrough, away at Wigan) would see Town safe no matter what our final two results are.
😊👍
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Post by stable on Apr 30, 2023 15:20:32 GMT 1
There is a new scenario just come into play... Two defeats for Rovrum (home to Middlesbrough, away at Wigan) would see Town safe no matter what our final two results are. 😊👍 Which is exactly what I mentioned to my wife as we enjoyed a pint in a bar in Krakow, which didn’t seem to overly concern her if her raised eyebrows are anything to go by! |
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Post by runner76 on Apr 30, 2023 15:22:19 GMT 1
There is a new scenario just come into play... Two defeats for Rovrum (home to Middlesbrough, away at Wigan) would see Town safe no matter what our final two results are. 😊👍 Although two teams with nothing to play for……. |
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Post by detox on Apr 30, 2023 18:59:55 GMT 1
There is a new scenario just come into play... Two defeats for Rovrum (home to Middlesbrough, away at Wigan) would see Town safe no matter what our final two results are. 😊👍 Pity we won't know the rotherham v Wigan result until it's too late...unless there's a rain delay at the JSS ? |
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 1, 2023 2:43:41 GMT 1
So now the picture is ALOT clearer.
Its a shame Reading did equalise against Wigan. A Wigan win would have meant we'd have been safe already.
We just need a point to be safe. We can also be safe if Rotherham lose their 2 remaining fixtures.
That's as simple as it gets.
You could not face 2 teams further apart. Sheffield United, already promoted, no chance of the title. Nothing to play for.
Reading, if we aren't safe already (or if Rotherham falter against Boro) have their survival to play for.
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Post by Jimuano on May 1, 2023 7:22:32 GMT 1
vs Sheff utd, just hoping for the most boring and action free 0-0 final scoreline please.
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Post by jonbrno on May 1, 2023 15:08:38 GMT 1
So now the picture is ALOT clearer. Its a shame Reading did equalise against Wigan. A Wigan win would have meant we'd have been safe already. We just need a point to be safe. We can also be safe if Rotherham lose their 2 remaining fixtures. That's as simple as it gets. You could not face 2 teams further apart. Sheffield United, already promoted, no chance of the title. Nothing to play for. Reading, if we aren't safe already (or if Rotherham falter against Boro) have their survival to play for. Even simpler now Rotherham are safe - if we lose both of our two remaining games we are down. If we get a point in either game we are safe. |
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