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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 19, 2023 10:37:53 GMT 1
Over the last 4 game form table, QPR, Reading and Cardiff have won one game between them and picked up 7 points from 36 available combined. Over the last 6 game form table they've got 9 points from 54 available
Can't see all 3 going on fantastic runs between now and the end of the season.
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Post by westislandterrier on Apr 19, 2023 10:37:56 GMT 1
I think we'll win all 3 of our remaining games. tend to agree with Gledholt though, in that we might even already have enough points. Great confidence Capt. - Here’s hoping another Capt. (HTAFC one) installes that mindset firmly in our players psyche ! 😉 |
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Post by griffa on Apr 19, 2023 10:39:07 GMT 1
It could possibly be goal difference that decides it Both currently -19 but reading have scored one more goal I have been generous to the other teams and even given Cardiff a win against us and tried to be unbiased with our remaining fixtures My gut feeling is goal difference will decide who goes down That lost point against Blackpool at home, should have been appealed, as it was clear the ball was in the net, failure of Hawkeye, on the day may cost us still - UTT. |
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 19, 2023 10:51:19 GMT 1
We are probably going to need 6 points from the remaining 9 One or 2 of the teams below us will get 3/4 points before we play again If we need 6 I don't think we've got it...more likely is 3 or 4 points, or 5 at a stretch if we somehow hold Sheff Utd. But - I reckon we only need 3 more points...QPR have bagged 4 points of the last available 30...they're highly unlikely to get more than 4 points to the end of the season, especially with Norwich and Burnley up next...4 points for them and 3 points for us would see us staying up, irrespective of what Cardiff or Reading too...so we've got them as safety nets too. |
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Post by k1man999 on Apr 19, 2023 11:08:16 GMT 1
We are probably going to need 6 points from the remaining 9 One or 2 of the teams below us will get 3/4 points before we play again If we need 6 I don't think we've got it...more likely is 3 or 4 points, or 5 at a stretch if we somehow hold Sheff Utd. But - I reckon we only need 3 more points...QPR have bagged 4 points of the last available 30...they're highly unlikely to get more than 4 points to the end of the season, especially with Norwich and Burnley up next...4 points for them and 3 points for us would see us staying up, irrespective of what Cardiff or Reading too...so we've got them as safety nets too. Have to see with Burnley keep putting reserves out. Didn't we get lambasted and fined for that and was only one game. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Apr 19, 2023 11:19:37 GMT 1
If we need 6 I don't think we've got it...more likely is 3 or 4 points, or 5 at a stretch if we somehow hold Sheff Utd. But - I reckon we only need 3 more points...QPR have bagged 4 points of the last available 30...they're highly unlikely to get more than 4 points to the end of the season, especially with Norwich and Burnley up next...4 points for them and 3 points for us would see us staying up, irrespective of what Cardiff or Reading too...so we've got them as safety nets too. Have to see with Burnley keep putting reserves out.Didn't we get lambasted and fined for that and was only one game. I’m hoping surely that they’ll finally clinch being champions at home to QPR on Saturday and surely want to put on a show at home in front of their fans in doing it (5-0 would be nice) - they then have two nothing matches away to Blackburn and Bristol City to play all the reserves and swifts that they want to - And then finish up at home to Cardiff on presentation day where once again surely they’d wanna go out with a bang and put on another good show for their supporters (4-0 has a nice ring to that one) ! Ah well... we can but dream ! 🙏 |
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Post by tepidterrier on Apr 19, 2023 11:42:29 GMT 1
I think we'll win all 3 of our remaining games. tend to agree with Gledholt though, in that we might even already have enough points. I think we'll draw all three and it'll be enough. |
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Post by paulmat on Apr 19, 2023 12:03:11 GMT 1
How do QPR get 6 points from 4 games having accumulated just 4 points from the last 13? The same way we beat Millwall, Boro and Watford following a run of 1 win in 13. Not saying it will happen, but we can't discount any of the teams below us going on a mad run |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Apr 19, 2023 12:09:07 GMT 1
How do QPR get 6 points from 4 games having accumulated just 4 points from the last 13? The same way we beat Millwall, Boro and Watford following a run of 1 win in 13. Not saying it will happen, but we can't discount any of the teams below us going on a mad run We didn’t appoint a hippy as a new manager though 😉 |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Apr 19, 2023 12:10:57 GMT 1
We'd be daft to rest on our laurels and write anyone off, any team can hit a bit of form at any time, as we ourselves have proved recently.
Having said that, I do firmly believe it'll be QPR joining Blackpool and Wigan in L1 next season.
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Post by hoggy1975 on Apr 19, 2023 12:14:26 GMT 1
How do QPR get 6 points from 4 games having accumulated just 4 points from the last 13? The same way we beat Millwall, Boro and Watford following a run of 1 win in 13. Not saying it will happen, but we can't discount any of the teams below us going on a mad run Teams at the bottom always pull off at least one surprise win in the run in. Especially when playing teams on the beach and with nothing to play for. I think Cardiff will pick up more points over us before the end of the season and it will come down to us, QPR and reading. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 19, 2023 12:25:26 GMT 1
If we do avoid the drop (which I think we will), I just hope it’s merited and not by GD, or we’ve been reliant on Reading losing that 6 points.
The Hawkeye thing playing a part will be gut wrenching for us. People will argue that we should have won a point in the other 45 games, but for technology to relegate you, a season after the PGMOL debacle will be a tough one to stomach…
Keen eye on the games tonight then… Fingers crossed for a zero or meagre points return for the 3 sides involved.
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Post by detox on Apr 19, 2023 12:39:37 GMT 1
The same way we beat Millwall, Boro and Watford following a run of 1 win in 13. Not saying it will happen, but we can't discount any of the teams below us going on a mad run Teams at the bottom always pull off at least one surprise win in the run in. Especially when playing teams on the beach and with nothing to play for. I think Cardiff will pick up more points over us before the end of the season and it will come down to us, QPR and reading. Tend to agree with this..despite getting whopped 4-1 Cardiff played quite well at Sheffield Utd....QPR are yet to show though and with Burnley then Stoke away after tonights visit of Norwich, desperately need points. With that in mind it might be better if Cardiff are already safe by the time they play us if they perform in their next 3 games . Reading are the dark horses who can regularly pick up draws..hopefully Luton and Coventry will have enough desire to beat them..
My darkest thoughts are we could be in the bottom 3 by tonight...and with another round of fixtures to be played before we play again...we could theoretically be relegated at Cardiff.
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Post by hypotenuse on Apr 19, 2023 12:43:24 GMT 1
I think we'll win all 3 of our remaining games. tend to agree with Gledholt though, in that we might even already have enough points. I think we'll draw all three and it'll be enough. We tried that tactic v WBA, Wimbledon and Birmingham in 2001 - it worked in the first two games. Remind me again what happened in the third game… |
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Post by rockwall on Apr 19, 2023 12:43:33 GMT 1
It could possibly be goal difference that decides it Both currently -19 but reading have scored one more goal I have been generous to the other teams and even given Cardiff a win against us and tried to be unbiased with our remaining fixtures My gut feeling is goal difference will decide who goes down That lost point against Blackpool at home, should have been appealed, as it was clear the ball was in the net, failure of Hawkeye, on the day may cost us still - UTT. Who is to say though that we wouldn't have gone on to lose? We could have gone on to win also? In an ideal world, Blackpool keep the 3 as it wasn't their fault and award us 1 point. |
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Post by rockwall on Apr 19, 2023 12:44:13 GMT 1
The same way we beat Millwall, Boro and Watford following a run of 1 win in 13. Not saying it will happen, but we can't discount any of the teams below us going on a mad run Teams at the bottom always pull off at least one surprise win in the run in. Especially when playing teams on the beach and with nothing to play for. I think Cardiff will pick up more points over us before the end of the season and it will come down to us, QPR and reading. That surprise was us V Boro and Watford. |
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Post by paulmat on Apr 19, 2023 12:47:50 GMT 1
With that in mind it might be better if Cardiff are already safe by the time they play us if they perform in their next 3 games
Not sure I agree with this. Flip it the other way, would you be more confident in Town beating Reading on the final day if: a) We're already safe after beating Sheffield United and it's a party atmosphere b) We are still at risk of relegation and everybody is nervous For me, it's a), so not sure I'd want to be playing Cardiff if the same position. Particularly given that would mean they'd hit some form before then. I'd rather they were under pressure from a nervy crowd to be honest. |
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Post by goalden on Apr 19, 2023 12:51:49 GMT 1
If we do avoid the drop (which I think we will), I just hope it’s merited and not by GD, or we’ve been reliant on Reading losing that 6 points. The Hawkeye thing playing a part will be gut wrenching for us. People will argue that we should have won a point in the other 45 games, but for technology to relegate you, a season after the PGMOL debacle will be a tough one to stomach… Keen eye on the games tonight then… Fingers crossed for a zero or meagre points return for the 3 sides involved. I haven't seen it back, but in real time I thought it was a penalty to Sunderland last night and I thought the ref gave us a couple of soft free kicks on the edge of our box when we were a bit against it. It felt to me as thought we got that point back last night. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 19, 2023 12:55:24 GMT 1
If we do avoid the drop (which I think we will), I just hope it’s merited and not by GD, or we’ve been reliant on Reading losing that 6 points. The Hawkeye thing playing a part will be gut wrenching for us. People will argue that we should have won a point in the other 45 games, but for technology to relegate you, a season after the PGMOL debacle will be a tough one to stomach… Keen eye on the games tonight then… Fingers crossed for a zero or meagre points return for the 3 sides involved. I haven't seen it back, but in real time I thought it was a penalty to Sunderland last night and I thought the ref gave us a couple of soft free kicks on the edge of our box when we were a bit against it. It felt to me as thought we got that point back last night. Those are judgements of officials, the goal line is pure tech. Judgements are debatable, tech should be black and white.? |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Apr 19, 2023 12:55:52 GMT 1
If we do avoid the drop (which I think we will), I just hope it’s merited and not by GD, or we’ve been reliant on Reading losing that 6 points. The Hawkeye thing playing a part will be gut wrenching for us. People will argue that we should have won a point in the other 45 games, but for technology to relegate you, a season after the PGMOL debacle will be a tough one to stomach… Keen eye on the games tonight then… Fingers crossed for a zero or meagre points return for the 3 sides involved. I haven't seen it back, but in real time I thought it was a penalty to Sunderland last night and I thought the ref gave us a couple of soft free kicks on the edge of our box when we were a bit against it. It felt to me as thought we got that point back last night. If you're referring to the shoulder charge on Pritchard then it wasn't a penalty. Watched it at home and had the benefit of replays. The Sunderland commentators stated they didn't feel it was a penalty and noted that the Sunderland players were not appealing either. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2023 13:00:24 GMT 1
The same way we beat Millwall, Boro and Watford following a run of 1 win in 13. Not saying it will happen, but we can't discount any of the teams below us going on a mad run We didn’t appoint a hippy as a new manager though 😉 You've little idea of genre's if you think Ainsworth is a 'Hippy' ! |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 19, 2023 13:06:15 GMT 1
I haven't seen it back, but in real time I thought it was a penalty to Sunderland last night and I thought the ref gave us a couple of soft free kicks on the edge of our box when we were a bit against it. It felt to me as thought we got that point back last night. If you're referring to the shoulder charge on Pritchard then it wasn't a penalty. Watched it at home and had the benefit of replays. The Sunderland commentators stated they didn't feel it was a penalty and noted that the Sunderland players were not appealing either. That’s why I missed it. It was clearly a calf to shoulder challenge. No pen… 😉 |
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Post by boooothy on Apr 19, 2023 13:10:08 GMT 1
I think tonight is a big night for us, particularly QPR’s game against Norwich. Despite Burnley dicking about with their team you’d expect them win at home Saturday. That would leave them with only 2 games.
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Post by runner76 on Apr 19, 2023 13:27:52 GMT 1
I think we'll win all 3 of our remaining games. tend to agree with Gledholt though, in that we might even already have enough points. I think we'll draw all three and it'll be enough. Win one , lose one , draw one This is the way It’s the stats under Warnock |
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Post by brighousebandbred on Apr 19, 2023 13:55:00 GMT 1
Have to see with Burnley keep putting reserves out.Didn't we get lambasted and fined for that and was only one game. I’m hoping surely that they’ll finally clinch being champions at home to QPR on Saturday and surely want to put on a show at home in front of their fans in doing it (5-0 would be nice) - they then have two nothing matches away to Blackburn and Bristol City to play all the reserves and swifts that they want to - And then finish up at home to Cardiff on presentation day where once again surely they’d wanna go out with a bang and put on another good show for their supporters (4-0 has a nice ring to that one) ! Ah well... we can but dream ! 🙏 Unfortunately the big one left for Burnley is beating their hated rivals and stopping them getting in playoffs the rest expect the shit show turn out of reserve players , cheers Burnley . |
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Post by DATM Travel Agent on Apr 19, 2023 14:09:11 GMT 1
Teams at the bottom always pull off at least one surprise win in the run in. Especially when playing teams on the beach and with nothing to play for. I think Cardiff will pick up more points over us before the end of the season and it will come down to us, QPR and reading. Tend to agree with this..despite getting whopped 4-1 Cardiff played quite well at Sheffield Utd....QPR are yet to show though and with Burnley then Stoke away after tonights visit of Norwich, desperately need points. With that in mind it might be better if Cardiff are already safe by the time they play us if they perform in their next 3 games . Reading are the dark horses who can regularly pick up draws..hopefully Luton and Coventry will have enough desire to beat them..
My darkest thoughts are we could be in the bottom 3 by tonight...and with another round of fixtures to be played before we play again...we could theoretically be relegated at Cardiff.
Theoretically Cardiff could send us down, but for that to happen we'd need both Reading and QPR to win all of their next 3 games and Cardiff to win at least 2 of their next 3. If we assume average odds of each of those 8 wins being at best 6/4, but in reality longer than that, you're looking at odds of at least 1,500/1. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Apr 19, 2023 14:15:27 GMT 1
We didn’t appoint a hippy as a new manager though 😉 You've little idea of genre's if you think Ainsworth is a 'Hippy' ! You’re not wrong - hair based appraisal with no other evidence. |
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Post by detox on Apr 19, 2023 14:46:39 GMT 1
I have looked at the remaining fixtures and have given all the teams a couple of wins each...being realistic that teams will now be in survival mode and get the odd result I have given town 4 points from the remaining games and here's what I think the points tallys will be Reading 48 Cardiff 49 Qpr 49 Rotherham 52 TOWN 48 IMO it's us or reading who go down depending on goal difference
9.2 If two or more Clubs have the same number of points, goal difference and goals scored the highest placed Club shall be determined by the respective League records against each other, taking into account in order of precedence, points gained, goal difference and goals scored. 9.3 If the above procedures do not separate the Clubs then the highest placed Club shall be determined by reference to the following criteria, in the order prescribed: 9.3.1 number of wins; 9.3.2 goals scored in away games; or 9.3.3 in accordance with the provisions of Regulation 9.4. 9.4 Where two or more Clubs are tied after the procedures set out in Regulations 9 .1 to 9 .3 inclusive then the highest placed Club shall be the Club which has accumulated the lowest total number of penalty points (as determined in accordance with Regulations 9.5 and 9.6) following the completion of 42 League Matches in the relevant Season. 9.5 Each cautionable or sending-off offence committed by a Club’s Players in each League Match during a playing season will incur that Club a set number of penalty points in accordance with the following table: |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Apr 19, 2023 15:25:47 GMT 1
I have looked at the remaining fixtures and have given all the teams a couple of wins each...being realistic that teams will now be in survival mode and get the odd result I have given town 4 points from the remaining games and here's what I think the points tallys will be Reading 48 - 42Cardiff 49 - 45Qpr 49 - 45Rotherham 52 - 49TOWN 48 - 49IMO it's us or reading who go down depending on goal difference I think the teams quoted are all worse than you  except town. |
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Post by sabailand on Apr 19, 2023 15:43:18 GMT 1
Can drive yourself mad thinking of what might be. Main thing is we still have Reading to play so it’s entirely in our hands as it stands to stay up…..something we couldn’t say a few weeks ago!!! UTT Yeah i said similar somewhere else, overthinking stuff cand send you mad, worrying isnt good for you, at the same time its good to be involved as a few weeks ago we were looking dead certs for the drop. |
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except town.