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Post by sabailand on May 9, 2023 18:08:50 GMT 1
Once he got setteld he was dependable, no qualms at all when he was in goal.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 9, 2023 18:08:51 GMT 1
For me, our entire budget needs to go on attacking players. Providing we keep Nicholls, Turton, Lees, Helik, Pearson, Yuta & Headley, we should be well covered at the back. Hoggy will probably need to take a back seat next season (he fully deserves a rest after all he has done for us) but Camara, Kasumu, Rudoni & him should have us covered in defensive midfield.
If we lose Koroma (I suspect he was told a while a go he could go, which to be fair to the club, was the right decision before Warnock got hold of him) we have to replace Ward, Rhodes, Holmes, Hungbo & everyone involved this season,in the very poor attacking play, if we want to compete & not just survive.
I know it's not as simple as that, as people have contracts etc., but my basic point is I'd happily take this season's defenders, especially once they settled down & sorted themselves out but the attack was woefully short of even basic passing, movement & shooting until Warnock came in.
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Post by Detective Boyle on May 9, 2023 18:14:16 GMT 1
For me, our entire budget needs to go on attacking players. Providing we keep Nicholls, Turton, Lees, Helik, Pearson, Yuta & Headley, we should be well covered at the back. Hoggy will probably need to take a back seat next season (he fully deserves a rest after all he has done for us) but Camara, Kasumu, Rudoni & him should have us covered in defensive midfield. If we lose Koroma (I suspect he was told a while a go he could go, which to be fair to the club, was the right decision before Warnock got hold of him) we have to replace Ward, Rhodes, Holmes, Hungbo & everyone involved this season,in the very poor attacking play, if we want to compete & not just survive. I know it's not as simple as that, as people have contracts etc., but my basic point is I'd happily take this season's defenders, especially once they settled down & sorted themselves out but the attack was woefully short of even basic passing, movement & shooting until Warnock came in. I really think we’re in trouble if we stick with a midfield of Cámara, Hogg, Kasumu and Rudoni. A massive part of it being such an appalling season is that midfield which we’ve assembled, we have paid the price by not replacing O’brien’s energy and ball carrying ability. Kasumu has energy but very low quality on the ball. Rudoni is a CAM and only a CAM. This should be Hogg’s last season as a starter (I say this as a huge admirer of Hogg). Cámara will be gone and IMO is not up to the level yet anyway. For me, we have to spend on a midfielder to replace the attributes we’ve lost.
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Post by bluesandtwos on May 9, 2023 18:19:05 GMT 1
What on earth do we do with Mahoney ? Presumably he has another year left. Boyle ? - didn’t feature at all under warnock. Boyle is a back up centre half, there was no need for him to feature as the centre halves we had were all fit and playing well. He's done okay whenever he's had to fill in. No need to move him on in my opinion. Boyle got the wrong side of Warnock when he came out to applaud the fans after being sent off for a stupid foul. Warnock did not think it was appropriate after letting the team down.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 9, 2023 18:21:32 GMT 1
For me, our entire budget needs to go on attacking players. Providing we keep Nicholls, Turton, Lees, Helik, Pearson, Yuta & Headley, we should be well covered at the back. Hoggy will probably need to take a back seat next season (he fully deserves a rest after all he has done for us) but Camara, Kasumu, Rudoni & him should have us covered in defensive midfield. If we lose Koroma (I suspect he was told a while a go he could go, which to be fair to the club, was the right decision before Warnock got hold of him) we have to replace Ward, Rhodes, Holmes, Hungbo & everyone involved this season,in the very poor attacking play, if we want to compete & not just survive. I know it's not as simple as that, as people have contracts etc., but my basic point is I'd happily take this season's defenders, especially once they settled down & sorted themselves out but the attack was woefully short of even basic passing, movement & shooting until Warnock came in. I really think we’re in trouble if we stick with a midfield of Cámara, Hogg, Kasumu and Rudoni. A massive part of it being such an appalling season is that midfield which we’ve assembled, we have paid the price by not replacing O’brien’s energy and ball carrying ability. Kasumu has energy but very low quality on the ball. Rudoni is a CAM and only a CAM. This should be Hogg’s last season as a starter (I say this as a huge admirer of Hogg). Cámara will be gone and IMO is not up to the level yet anyway. For me, we have to spend on a midfielder to replace the attributes we’ve lost. I should have pointed out the defensive midfield I mentioned is 2 places, we do need a better passer if it's a 3
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on May 9, 2023 19:54:05 GMT 1
As I've said earlier in the thread, there's only one reason why these players are looking half-decent and that's Neil Warnock. If Warnock was 10 or even five years younger, I'd be signing him up. It's such a shame he's 74 years old and probably doesn't have the stomach to take it on for one or two seasons. This new king is 74 and his career is only just starting. God help us
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on May 9, 2023 20:59:30 GMT 1
Boyle is a back up centre half, there was no need for him to feature as the centre halves we had were all fit and playing well. He's done okay whenever he's had to fill in. No need to move him on in my opinion. Boyle got the wrong side of Warnock when he came out to applaud the fans after being sent off for a stupid foul. Warnock did not think it was appropriate after letting the team down. I’m sure he’d have bollocked him for that and they’d have moved on. It won’t be the reason he hasn’t played. His job as a manager is to correct these issues as and when he sees them. The only player I can see has been likely bombed out because of attitude is Knockhaert.
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Post by bluesandtwos on May 9, 2023 22:14:44 GMT 1
Boyle got the wrong side of Warnock when he came out to applaud the fans after being sent off for a stupid foul. Warnock did not think it was appropriate after letting the team down. I’m sure he’d have bollocked him for that and they’d have moved on. It won’t be the reason he hasn’t played. His job as a manager is to correct these issues as and when he sees them. The only player I can see has been likely bombed out because of attitude is Knockhaert. You could be right. It stuck in my mind because Boyle, as far as I remember, was the only player he got pissed at and named. Any other digs were done with humour.
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Post by bigfatmonkey on May 9, 2023 22:17:14 GMT 1
I’m sure he’d have bollocked him for that and they’d have moved on. It won’t be the reason he hasn’t played. His job as a manager is to correct these issues as and when he sees them. The only player I can see has been likely bombed out because of attitude is Knockhaert. You could be right. It stuck in my mind because Boyle, as far as I remember, was the only player he got pissed at and named. Any other digs were done with humour. Warnock has actually spoken about Boyle this week (from Examiner): On Helik's POTY "I said to him yesterday he should be playing at the top level, when you see what Chelsea or Tottenham have got...my back four have been as good as any of them. Leeds as well, Steven, just to spice your story up. "He's a worthy winner. Lees and Helik have been fantastic. I feel a bit sorry for Boyley because he's not had a look-in but his attitude has been fantastic. And what can you say about Matty Pearson?
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Post by goodbet on May 9, 2023 22:34:49 GMT 1
Boyle for me was so easy for the forward to wind him up and then low and behold he got sent off 2min later fowling the same forward.
I would have taken a schoolboy to task after that and hoped he had the sense never to be such a chump ever again.
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Post by royalflush on May 10, 2023 6:42:40 GMT 1
Boyle didn't play because Helik, Lees and Pearson all stayed fit throughout Warnock's stint. Nothing sinister. Which is how it should be because he was signed as cover and is inferior to all three of them. Perhaps the only change was REG stepping up and providing that cover under Warnock as REG could cover two positions
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 10, 2023 6:48:54 GMT 1
Boyle didn't play because Helik, Lees and Pearson all stayed fit throughout Warnock's stint. Nothing sinister. Which is how it should be because he was signed as cover and is inferior to all three of them. Perhaps the only change was REG stepping up and providing that cover under Warnock as REG could cover two positions Not to mention Boyle is shite as well.
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Post by Kenny irons on May 10, 2023 11:38:32 GMT 1
Koroma is highly sought after by Atleast 6 championship sides including stoke and millwall
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Post by rockwall on May 10, 2023 12:04:15 GMT 1
Boyle didn't play because Helik, Lees and Pearson all stayed fit throughout Warnock's stint. Nothing sinister. Which is how it should be because he was signed as cover and is inferior to all three of them. Perhaps the only change was REG stepping up and providing that cover under Warnock as REG could cover two positions Not to mention Boyle is shite as well. Always looks like he has won a prize to play. If we want to kick on, we need better back ups.
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Post by Tinpot on May 10, 2023 14:08:51 GMT 1
Luton is an absolute bizzhole in the middle of Hertfordshire with a capacity stadium of a grand 10,356. There is no way they should be able to pay top dollar for anyone compared to others in this league. They are where they are because their owners are invested in the club and recognise that to compete you can't do it on a league 1/2 budget Luton is largely a shithole but I doubt the players live there. Moss Side is bloody awful. Why would anyone sign for Man City? Bottom line is everywhere has nice areas and shit areas. Huddersfield has some lovely scenery nearby, and it's convenient for Leeds and Manchester if you prefer city life. Most places will have something like that. Luton is only a half hour train ride to London.
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Post by Tinpot on May 10, 2023 14:40:43 GMT 1
For me, our entire budget needs to go on attacking players. Providing we keep Nicholls, Turton, Lees, Helik, Pearson, Yuta & Headley, we should be well covered at the back. Hoggy will probably need to take a back seat next season (he fully deserves a rest after all he has done for us) but Camara, Kasumu, Rudoni & him should have us covered in defensive midfield. If we lose Koroma (I suspect he was told a while a go he could go, which to be fair to the club, was the right decision before Warnock got hold of him) we have to replace Ward, Rhodes, Holmes, Hungbo & everyone involved this season,in the very poor attacking play, if we want to compete & not just survive. I know it's not as simple as that, as people have contracts etc., but my basic point is I'd happily take this season's defenders, especially once they settled down & sorted themselves out but the attack was woefully short of even basic passing, movement & shooting until Warnock came in. I really think we’re in trouble if we stick with a midfield of Cámara, Hogg, Kasumu and Rudoni. A massive part of it being such an appalling season is that midfield which we’ve assembled, we have paid the price by not replacing O’brien’s energy and ball carrying ability. Kasumu has energy but very low quality on the ball. Rudoni is a CAM and only a CAM. This should be Hogg’s last season as a starter (I say this as a huge admirer of Hogg). Cámara will be gone and IMO is not up to the level yet anyway. For me, we have to spend on a midfielder to replace the attributes we’ve lost. Or maybe he expects to stay.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on May 10, 2023 15:40:53 GMT 1
I really think we’re in trouble if we stick with a midfield of Cámara, Hogg, Kasumu and Rudoni. A massive part of it being such an appalling season is that midfield which we’ve assembled, we have paid the price by not replacing O’brien’s energy and ball carrying ability. Kasumu has energy but very low quality on the ball. Rudoni is a CAM and only a CAM. This should be Hogg’s last season as a starter (I say this as a huge admirer of Hogg). Cámara will be gone and IMO is not up to the level yet anyway. For me, we have to spend on a midfielder to replace the attributes we’ve lost. Or maybe he expects to stay. He's still got another year on his contract so I suppose he will, unless Leicester offer £10m for him
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Post by sabailand on May 10, 2023 16:41:54 GMT 1
Luton is largely a shithole but I doubt the players live there. Moss Side is bloody awful. Why would anyone sign for Man City? Bottom line is everywhere has nice areas and shit areas. Huddersfield has some lovely scenery nearby, and it's convenient for Leeds and Manchester if you prefer city life. Most places will have something like that. Luton is only a half hour train ride to London. Got a mate whos a Watford fan, came up with his girlfriend at the time for the prem game when we beat them 1-0, when i saw him again he was pretty impressed by the countryside and the country roads near Hudds.
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Post by Tinpot on May 10, 2023 16:49:41 GMT 1
Moss Side is bloody awful. Why would anyone sign for Man City? Bottom line is everywhere has nice areas and shit areas. Huddersfield has some lovely scenery nearby, and it's convenient for Leeds and Manchester if you prefer city life. Most places will have something like that. Luton is only a half hour train ride to London. Got a mate whos a Watford fan, came up with his girlfriend at the time for the prem game when we beat them 1-0, when i saw him again he was pretty impressed by the countryside and the country roads near Hudds. Yep. When the woman who is now my wife first came up to Huddersfield I met her at the train station. First thing she said was how beautiful the countryside was around Huddersfield. Up to then (I was 24 years old at the time) I genuinely hadn't noticed or appreciated it. It's a shame how few people recognise the beauty on their own doorstep.
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Post by tepidterrier on May 10, 2023 16:50:04 GMT 1
Boyle didn't play because Helik, Lees and Pearson all stayed fit throughout Warnock's stint. Nothing sinister. Which is how it should be because he was signed as cover and is inferior to all three of them. Perhaps the only change was REG stepping up and providing that cover under Warnock as REG could cover two positions Not to mention Boyle is shite as well. thought he was pretty solid at times this season. Not as good as the other 4 at their best, but was pretty dependable and played better than Lees for a good couple of months during the Buzz era.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 10, 2023 18:05:48 GMT 1
Got a mate whos a Watford fan, came up with his girlfriend at the time for the prem game when we beat them 1-0, when i saw him again he was pretty impressed by the countryside and the country roads near Hudds. Yep. When the woman who is now my wife first came up to Huddersfield I met her at the train station. First thing she said was how beautiful the countryside was around Huddersfield. Up to then (I was 24 years old at the time) I genuinely hadn't noticed or appreciated it. It's a shame how few people recognise the beauty on their own doorstep. We have beautiful countryside in every direction from the Town Centre. I can see for miles from the back of my house and fortunately never ever take it for granted.
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Post by richhtfc on May 10, 2023 18:16:49 GMT 1
Koroma is highly sought after by Atleast 6 championship sides including stoke and millwall Is one of them Town?
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Post by dbterrier32 on May 10, 2023 23:06:14 GMT 1
From what I’ve heard, a few players were a while ago (at the time Warnock) came in they wouldn’t be getting another deal. Presume by Bromby or Baldwin. However, Warnock came in a had a go saying why are you telling these players that. Then told the players to ignore and play for another contract
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Post by VLP Fan Club on May 11, 2023 1:21:08 GMT 1
From what I’ve heard, a few players were a while ago (at the time Warnock) came in they wouldn’t be getting another deal. Presume by Bromby or Baldwin. However, Warnock came in a had a go saying why are you telling these players that. Then told the players to ignore and play for another contract Have to admit in the midst of a relegation scrap telling lads they’re leaving is pure stupidity but then again nothing surprises me pre Warnock arriving.
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Post by dbterrier32 on May 11, 2023 9:31:45 GMT 1
From what I’ve heard, a few players were a while ago (at the time Warnock) came in they wouldn’t be getting another deal. Presume by Bromby or Baldwin. However, Warnock came in a had a go saying why are you telling these players that. Then told the players to ignore and play for another contract Have to admit in the midst of a relegation scrap telling lads they’re leaving is pure stupidity but then again nothing surprises me pre Warnock arriving. Yeah it’s staggering isn’t it. Ruffels was one of the players I was told about. Not sure about who else.
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