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Post by Torquayterrier on Jun 28, 2023 22:54:15 GMT 1
And then the fans will moan like hell when the players are rotated nonsensically to get games into their legs and as new tactics are practised. It's the same every year - Town play friendlies and the fans whinge about being short-changed because the team doesn't wipe the floor with perceived weaker opponents. Then the moaning and wailing about how poor we look and how we'll be nailed-on for relegation will begin. You can't - and shouldn't - read anything into these basically fitness activities - but many will. It's no good denying it - it's what always happens. These games should all be behind closed doors so that the two managers/coaches can crack on and do what they feel is necessary without fans booing, cat-calling and sniping. I know it's an unpopular view, but you'll never catch me going to these events because I know exactly how it's going to pan out. First time we ever met was at a pre season friendly, away at Mansfield but back then it was probably about walking distance for you. It was a while back though to be fair.😄 |
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Post by conman on Jun 29, 2023 6:46:34 GMT 1
Steam railway as well. From town down to Bodmin Parkway. Nice little trip. And well within reach of Trago Mills a mere 6 miles or so away! 🙂 Sounds good , but unfortunately they don't run on a Monday.. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 29, 2023 10:00:22 GMT 1
And then the fans will moan like hell when the players are rotated nonsensically to get games into their legs and as new tactics are practised. It's the same every year - Town play friendlies and the fans whinge about being short-changed because the team doesn't wipe the floor with perceived weaker opponents. Then the moaning and wailing about how poor we look and how we'll be nailed-on for relegation will begin. You can't - and shouldn't - read anything into these basically fitness activities - but many will. It's no good denying it - it's what always happens. These games should all be behind closed doors so that the two managers/coaches can crack on and do what they feel is necessary without fans booing, cat-calling and sniping. I know it's an unpopular view, but you'll never catch me going to these events because I know exactly how it's going to pan out. First time we ever met was at a pre season friendly, away at Mansfield but back then it was probably about walking distance for you. It was a while back though to be fair.😄 It was, Kev, you're right, but back then the friendlies weren't such a training exercise as they seem to be nowadays. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jun 29, 2023 12:31:53 GMT 1
First time we ever met was at a pre season friendly, away at Mansfield but back then it was probably about walking distance for you. It was a while back though to be fair.😄 It was, Kev, you're right, but back then the friendlies weren't such a training exercise as they seem to be nowadays. The friendlies Town used to have during the season in the 60’s were great. Proper games. Nowadays I wouldn’t cross the road to watch a friendly. Werder Bremen, Lubeck, Vejle, Twente Enschede, Borussia Dortmund, Kilmarnock, Dundee United, Falkirk. Any I’ve missed? |
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Post by westislandterrier on Jun 29, 2023 13:36:52 GMT 1
It was, Kev, you're right, but back then the friendlies weren't such a training exercise as they seem to be nowadays. The friendlies Town used to have during the season in the 60’s were great. Proper games. Nowadays I wouldn’t cross the road to watch a friendly. Werder Bremen, Lubeck, Vejle, Twente Enschede, Borussia Dortmund, Kilmarnock, Dundee United, Falkirk. Any I’ve missed? These would indeed have been excellent ‘challenge’ matches as they were possibly known as then and in the 70’s (well in Scotland anyway) and Kilmarnock were a very successful team both domestically and in Europe in The Swinging 60’s as well... Yep - we have the technology now (not that I can grasp it that well) and medical science means people have a better chance of living longer etc but in a lot of other ways (pre season friendly’s being an example) things can and have in some instances taken a backward turn for the worst ! |
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Post by Tiro on Jun 29, 2023 13:39:26 GMT 1
It was, Kev, you're right, but back then the friendlies weren't such a training exercise as they seem to be nowadays. The friendlies Town used to have during the season in the 60’s were great. Proper games. Nowadays I wouldn’t cross the road to watch a friendly. Werder Bremen, Lubeck, Vejle, Twente Enschede, Borussia Dortmund, Kilmarnock, Dundee United, Falkirk. Any I’ve missed? Even Alty are taking a trip to Nijmegen. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 29, 2023 15:21:57 GMT 1
It was, Kev, you're right, but back then the friendlies weren't such a training exercise as they seem to be nowadays. The friendlies Town used to have during the season in the 60’s were great. Proper games. Nowadays I wouldn’t cross the road to watch a friendly. Werder Bremen, Lubeck, Vejle, Twente Enschede, Borussia Dortmund, Kilmarnock, Dundee United, Falkirk. Any I’ve missed? Those I've highlighted were mid-season almost prestige games though, Chris - hardly pre-season friendlies. The players were already fit enough at that stage of the season. I know that they were played around the February/March time as I was there and had the programmes. |
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Post by sabailand on Jun 29, 2023 15:27:38 GMT 1
^^ Banik Ostrava, but again that was a midweek friendly.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jun 29, 2023 15:31:01 GMT 1
The friendlies Town used to have during the season in the 60’s were great. Proper games. Nowadays I wouldn’t cross the road to watch a friendly. Werder Bremen, Lubeck, Vejle, Twente Enschede, Borussia Dortmund, Kilmarnock, Dundee United, Falkirk. Any I’ve missed? Those I've highlighted were mid-season almost prestige games though, Chris - hardly pre-season friendlies. The players were already fit enough at that stage of the season. I know that they were played around the February/March time as I had the programmes. I’m not sure Lubeck (or Lubecker Ballspiel Verein Phoenix to give them their full name) or Vejle Boldklub could ever be described as “prestige”, they were both part-time. The Werder game was great and the Killie game was also good despite being 0-0. Falkirk was a pre-season game. Saw them all. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jun 29, 2023 15:43:24 GMT 1
Those I've highlighted were mid-season almost prestige games though, Chris - hardly pre-season friendlies. The players were already fit enough at that stage of the season. I know that they were played around the February/March time as I had the programmes. I’m not sure Lubeck (or Lubecker Ballspiel Verein Phoenix to give them their full name) or Vejle Boldklub could ever be described as “prestige”, they were both part-time. The Werder game was great and the Killie game was also good despite being 0-0. Falkirk was a pre-season game. Saw them all. Well, whatever. I didn't know that; I just saw them as European teams. But the point of my argument still stands; they were mid-season and in no way designed to get players up to speed after a 2 month lay-off, or to try out innovative tactics. Modern pre-season games - Town games especially - are not designed as spectator events and should never be viewed as such. There are, of course, exceptions, and here I mean the final pre-season game, usually played at home, by which time the team is expected to be fully functioning and is generally against top-class opposition. Such games tend to have fewer substitutions and the players are much more "at it" with the new season only a week or less away. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jun 29, 2023 15:50:47 GMT 1
I’m not sure Lubeck (or Lubecker Ballspiel Verein Phoenix to give them their full name) or Vejle Boldklub could ever be described as “prestige”, they were both part-time. The Werder game was great and the Killie game was also good despite being 0-0. Falkirk was a pre-season game. Saw them all. Well, whatever. I didn't know that; I just saw them as European teams. But the point of my argument still stands; they were mid-season and in no way designed to get players up to speed after a 2 month lay-off, or to try out innovative tactics. Modern pre-season games - Town games especially - are not designed as spectator events and should never be viewed as such. There are, of course, exceptions, and here I mean the final pre-season game, usually played at home, by which time the team is expected to be fully functioning and is generally against top-class opposition. Such games tend to have fewer substitutions and the players are much more "at it" with the new season only a week or less away. Despite saying I wouldn’t cross the road to watch a friendly these days there’s actually half a chance I could make it to the Heerenveen game on 29th July. |
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Post by morrisraspass on Jul 1, 2023 10:46:00 GMT 1
When are the players actually back in for pre-season? Sorry, probably discussed elsewhere but I can't find a date
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Jul 1, 2023 13:40:18 GMT 1
When are the players actually back in for pre-season? Sorry, probably discussed elsewhere but I can't find a date Monday 3rd? 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Post by rubicon on Jul 2, 2023 6:37:45 GMT 1
The friendlies Town used to have during the season in the 60’s were great. Proper games. Nowadays I wouldn’t cross the road to watch a friendly. Werder Bremen, Lubeck, Vejle, Twente Enschede, Borussia Dortmund, Kilmarnock, Dundee United, Falkirk. Any I’ve missed? These would indeed have been excellent ‘challenge’ matches as they were possibly known as then and in the 70’s (well in Scotland anyway) and Kilmarnock were a very successful team both domestically and in Europe in The Swinging 60’s as well... Yep - we have the technology now (not that I can grasp it that well) and medical science means people have a better chance of living longer etc but in a lot of other ways (pre season friendly’s being an example) things can and have in some instances taken a backward turn for the worst ! We played Kilmarnock in a pre-season friendly 68 as well. Ended in a 0-0 draw and the only game I've ever been thrown out of. Now before anyone worries, I was 16, a grammar school kid, and did absolutely nothing. Come half time, the cowshed was having one of those days where they were so bored, there was much rushing down the terrace and then of course back up. Nothing one could do but move with the crowd. Huddersfield's finest seemed to think they needed to come out en masse in a line behind the goal, and pick and choose who they wanted to chuck out. Fat copper duly sets off up the terrace, and I mean fat, and I say to my mate there's one heading this way. Sure enough he decides on me, mates shouting, "what's he done" but bully boy was having his way. Being marched round the track, I'll admit almost tearful, I asked him, and all I got was "You know what you've done, and don't try and get back in" These days kids would just tell their dad, and dad would want an explanation. Back then dads for some unknown reason seemed to think that you must have done something. Also mums bloody fault. Bought me a sky blue, think City, Levis jacket, when every other bugger was wearing a normal dark blue. That arsehole copper must have just decided he'd go for an easy visible, standout target. Next day, I burnt all my programmes.....stupid sod. I suppose these days, I'd be what they call traumatised, maybe I am, because I've never forgotten it, and it was the day I realised that my parents were also bloody liars. The Police are not always there to help you, sometimes the bastards are just having a night out. PS. There was no trouble from Killie fans whatsoever. I don't think there were any in the cowshed even. |
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Post by bluemond on Jul 2, 2023 11:12:47 GMT 1
These would indeed have been excellent ‘challenge’ matches as they were possibly known as then and in the 70’s (well in Scotland anyway) and Kilmarnock were a very successful team both domestically and in Europe in The Swinging 60’s as well... Yep - we have the technology now (not that I can grasp it that well) and medical science means people have a better chance of living longer etc but in a lot of other ways (pre season friendly’s being an example) things can and have in some instances taken a backward turn for the worst ! We played Kilmarnock in a pre-season friendly 68 as well. Ended in a 0-0 draw and the only game I've ever been thrown out of. Now before anyone worries, I was 16, a grammar school kid, and did absolutely nothing. Come half time, the cowshed was having one of those days where they were so bored, there was much rushing down the terrace and then of course back up. Nothing one could do but move with the crowd. Huddersfield's finest seemed to think they needed to come out en masse in a line behind the goal, and pick and choose who they wanted to chuck out. Fat copper duly sets off up the terrace, and I mean fat, and I say to my mate there's one heading this way. Sure enough he decides on me, mates shouting, "what's he done" but bully boy was having his way. Being marched round the track, I'll admit almost tearful, I asked him, and all I got was "You know what you've done, and don't try and get back in" These days kids would just tell their dad, and dad would want an explanation. Back then dads for some unknown reason seemed to think that you must have done something. Also mums bloody fault. Bought me a sky blue, think City, Levis jacket, when every other bugger was wearing a normal dark blue. That arsehole copper must have just decided he'd go for an easy visible, standout target. Next day, I burnt all my programmes.....stupid sod. I suppose these days, I'd be what they call traumatised, maybe I am, because I've never forgotten it, and it was the day I realised that my parents were also bloody liars. The Police are not always there to help you, sometimes the bastards are just having a night out. PS. There was no trouble from Killie fans whatsoever. I don't think there were any in the cowshed even. I went to the Kilmarnock friendly game as well, 11 years old and was in Bradley Mills open end, don’t recall any Kilmarnock fans in there at all to be honest. What I do remember is that Kilmarnock played a lot better than ourselves though, think there was about 8500 in for the game. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Jul 2, 2023 19:25:24 GMT 1
Pre season friendlies have started in Scotland once again... Yesterday it was Dumbarton FC 2 v Hebburn Town 3 (Hebburn Town are apparently from a The Tyne and Weir area near Newcastle) and are non-league, so a good win for them ‘Doon at the Rock’ - Also off interest to me was a good win for The favourite Highland League team Clachnacuddin away to the beautifully named Loch Ness FC by five goals to nil (0-5)... They have a few more friendlies over the next few weeks before concluding their pre season build up with a visit to Fort William on Sat 22nd July and today I’ve booked up accommodation overnight there to enjoy a few jugs before the match and a good munchi and live music in the pubs for the evening after it which was worth doing as I’ll be at the family home in Connel then anyway ! 😊
While I’m enjoying the break after that ardious but ultimately sensational finish to 2022/23 for Town, competitive footy will be back before we know it and tomorrow sees HTAFC back in pre season training and their first pre season friendly a week later...
That’s us all into the second half of the year already and before we know it it’ll be bloody Hogmanay !!! 😬
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jul 3, 2023 11:14:32 GMT 1
I think the last 2 pre seasons I've done were Barnsley and before that Eastwood Town which is going back a bit as I remember Alan Lee doing a half. Not sure about Barnsley, more recent but can't recall season I'm sure someone will put me right. Don't think it was after we'd gone to prem I think by then we were doing preseasons abroad?
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Post by conman on Jul 3, 2023 13:31:46 GMT 1
Got our match tickets for Tavistock , but the Bodmin tickets haven't been released yet . Our lass said it's a long way to go without tickets . It holds 4,000 , so we should be safe 😄
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 4, 2023 11:18:52 GMT 1
Confirming I’ll be up for the Heerenveen friendly 29th July. Actually looking forward to what must be my first Town friendly in 40 years!
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 5, 2023 8:41:21 GMT 1
Do we think we’re sticking with the 5 official pre-season games? The 3 in Cornwall and then Stockport and Heerenveen?
Seems a bit light to only be playing 2 professional teams.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jul 5, 2023 8:58:13 GMT 1
Do we think we’re sticking with the 5 official pre-season games? The 3 in Cornwall and then Stockport and Heerenveen? Seems a bit light to only be playing 2 professional teams. After the shambles of last preseason - playing two games at the same time, players not doing more than 60 mins in a game, never playing our first 11 together and playing all lower league opposition (and losing) then any preseason is a step up! Just googled it and we played Harrogate and Donnie last season on the same day. Some of the lads who played in one game then jumped on a bus to play the second half at Donnie. I mean that's simply a farce and not how you prepare an elite sports team! People like Diarra played in both! 16th July Harrogate www.htafc.com/matches/fixtures/first-team/202223/july/-vs-huddersfield-town-on-16-jul-22/Donnie www.htafc.com/news/2022/july/team-news-doncaster-vs-town/ |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 5, 2023 9:54:18 GMT 1
Do we think we’re sticking with the 5 official pre-season games? The 3 in Cornwall and then Stockport and Heerenveen? Seems a bit light to only be playing 2 professional teams. After the shambles of last preseason - playing two games at the same time, players not doing more than 60 mins in a game, never playing our first 11 together and playing all lower league opposition (and losing) then any preseason is a step up! Just googled it and we played Harrogate and Donnie last season on the same day. Some of the lads who played in one game then jumped on a bus to play the second half at Donnie. I mean that's simply a farce and not how you prepare an elite sports team! People like Diarra played in both! 16th July Harrogate www.htafc.com/matches/fixtures/first-team/202223/july/-vs-huddersfield-town-on-16-jul-22/Donnie www.htafc.com/news/2022/july/team-news-doncaster-vs-town/Last season was a complete mess and pre-season perfectly summed that up. I’d like to think we’re aiming higher than ‘better than a complete mess’ though, it feels we’re a game or two light. But Warnock knows best I suppose - the work on the training ground is more important as well. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 5, 2023 21:03:37 GMT 1
For anybody making the trip, Bodmin are looking for foodbank donations when they play us on the 10th July.
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Post by conman on Jul 5, 2023 21:28:15 GMT 1
For anybody making the trip, Bodmin are looking for foodbank donations when they play us on the 10th July. Sure we can find or buy some items to take down with us.. |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jul 7, 2023 8:35:11 GMT 1
Has the club said anything about these being streamed on YouTube, or ifollow, or anywhere?
Haven't seen anything but don't know if I missed it.
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Post by artysid on Jul 7, 2023 10:08:05 GMT 1
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Post by rooo on Jul 7, 2023 10:28:27 GMT 1
Do we think we’re sticking with the 5 official pre-season games? The 3 in Cornwall and then Stockport and Heerenveen? Seems a bit light to only be playing 2 professional teams. There will, no doubt, be some behind-closed-doors games, as well |
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Post by rooo on Jul 7, 2023 10:32:22 GMT 1
Has the club said anything about these being streamed on YouTube, or ifollow, or anywhere? Haven't seen anything but don't know if I missed it. I don't think they will be streamed, as I think NW wants to support the local teams and get as many locals in to the grounds rather than watching HTAFC's YouTube stream! |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jul 7, 2023 14:12:25 GMT 1
Cheers. That sounds like Twitter updates then rather than a stream! |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jul 7, 2023 14:15:05 GMT 1
Has the club said anything about these being streamed on YouTube, or ifollow, or anywhere? Haven't seen anything but don't know if I missed it. I don't think they will be streamed, as I think NW wants to support the local teams and get as many locals in to the grounds rather than watching HTAFC's YouTube stream! Wouldn't have thought many local Cornish folk would bother turning into a stream, if they're not bothered enough to go and see their local non-league team play a Championship side. Could be wrong though. |
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