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Post by mosher on Dec 8, 2023 11:13:48 GMT 1
Can we please stop referring to Mbenza and Diakhaby as 'The African Wingers' Whilst both of them have African heritage, which they may very well be proud of, neither of them were born in Africa and neither have they represented either DR Congo or Senegal. My wife is African and our eldest was born in South Africa, but I wouldn't really like to read or hear people calling either of our 2 boys, those African lads. As far as I know, it's a bit of an in joke aimed mainly at the old bloke at the Phil Hodgkinson Odeon Q&A who wrongly referred to them as the 'African wingers' Aaaah gotcha, I hope that's the case, rather than the alternative.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 8, 2023 11:41:28 GMT 1
Old enough then to know the difference between 'dislike intensely' and 'hate'
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Post by royrace on Dec 8, 2023 12:04:24 GMT 1
Don't forget the masterstroke of taking the captaincy from Smith and giving it to Schindler. He was completely clueless but granted he had a few absolute wnkers in the squad and nowhere near enough quality for the PL. Idiotic appointment. Same Tommy Smith that stupidly got sent off at Newcastle? Same Tommy Smith that was causing strife in the dressing room? Siewert wanted his own captain, so he appointed one. He was the fucking manager. Calm down dear It was a stupid decision imo and did absolutely nothing for morale. Changing captains at that stage in the season was idiotic. He got sent off??? FFS I didn't realise that meant immediate stripping of the captaincy Siewart was a terrible appointment, probably the worst in premier League history, it's not even a debate but you carry on arguing black is white, you seem to enjoy it.
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 8, 2023 12:05:33 GMT 1
Old enough then to know the difference between 'dislike intensely' and 'hate' It did seem like an OTT statement but, then again, who are you to tell him how he feels ? 🤷
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Post by Porrohman on Dec 8, 2023 12:06:45 GMT 1
Same Tommy Smith that stupidly got sent off at Newcastle? Same Tommy Smith that was causing strife in the dressing room? Siewert wanted his own captain, so he appointed one. He was the fucking manager. Calm down dear It was a stupid decision imo and did absolutely nothing for morale. Changing captains at that stage in the season was idiotic. He got sent off??? FFS I didn't realise that meant immediate stripping of the captaincy Siewart was a terrible appointment, probably the worst in premier League history, it's not even a debate but you carry on arguing black is white, you seem to enjoy it. Tbf, Schindler got "stupidly" sent off twice too 🤷
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Post by royrace on Dec 8, 2023 12:10:33 GMT 1
We were winless in 11 before Siewert took over. Some people seem to conveniently forget that. We were but we weren't actually that bad. In that run there's - Brighton at home, couple of dodgy decisions. Bournemouth away we lost but played well and deserved at least a point probably more. Arsenal away lost to a very late goal. Newcastle at home again deserved at least a draw. Southampton at home not great. Man United away we had chances and could easily have drawn. Fulham away lost in 90th minute. Burnley at home played most of the game with 10 men. Cardiff away should have won. The results themselves were shit but we weren't played bad and very much competing in every game. Exactly this. Some people seem very confused about that season. Actually played well in a lot of the games despite having a weaker squad than the season before and a dodgy dressing room due to the worst transfer window in the history of the club.
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Post by space hardware on Dec 8, 2023 12:24:28 GMT 1
We were but we weren't actually that bad. In that run there's - Brighton at home, couple of dodgy decisions. Bournemouth away we lost but played well and deserved at least a point probably more. Arsenal away lost to a very late goal. Newcastle at home again deserved at least a draw. Southampton at home not great. Man United away we had chances and could easily have drawn. Fulham away lost in 90th minute. Burnley at home played most of the game with 10 men. Cardiff away should have won. The results themselves were shit but we weren't played bad and very much competing in every game. Exactly this. Some people seem very confused about that season. Actually played well in a lot of the games despite having a weaker squad than the season before and a dodgy dressing room due to the worst transfer window in the history of the club. "Summer 2023 has entered the chat" 😁 Only joking, summer 2018 was a fuck up for the ages.
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 8, 2023 12:42:21 GMT 1
We were winless in 11 before Siewert took over. Some people seem to conveniently forget that. We were but we weren't actually that bad. In that run there's - Brighton at home, couple of dodgy decisions. Bournemouth away we lost but played well and deserved at least a point probably more. Arsenal away lost to a very late goal. Newcastle at home again deserved at least a draw. Southampton at home not great. Man United away we had chances and could easily have drawn. Fulham away lost in 90th minute. Burnley at home played most of the game with 10 men. Cardiff away should have won. The results themselves were shit but we weren't played bad and very much competing in every game. Always excuses 😂 We didn't compete in every game at all.
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 8, 2023 12:43:31 GMT 1
Same Tommy Smith that stupidly got sent off at Newcastle? Same Tommy Smith that was causing strife in the dressing room? Siewert wanted his own captain, so he appointed one. He was the fucking manager. Calm down dear It was a stupid decision imo and did absolutely nothing for morale. Changing captains at that stage in the season was idiotic. He got sent off??? FFS I didn't realise that meant immediate stripping of the captaincy Siewart was a terrible appointment, probably the worst in premier League history, it's not even a debate but you carry on arguing black is white, you seem to enjoy it. It was a terrible appointment. He was terrible. But so was Wagner that season but people like you try and pretend that he wasn't. We were down before we'd even heard of Jan Siewert.
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Post by waggers on Dec 8, 2023 12:48:47 GMT 1
We were but we weren't actually that bad. In that run there's - Brighton at home, couple of dodgy decisions. Bournemouth away we lost but played well and deserved at least a point probably more. Arsenal away lost to a very late goal. Newcastle at home again deserved at least a draw. Southampton at home not great. Man United away we had chances and could easily have drawn. Fulham away lost in 90th minute. Burnley at home played most of the game with 10 men. Cardiff away should have won. The results themselves were shit but we weren't played bad and very much competing in every game. Always excuses 😂 We didn't compete in every game at all. You can disagree with his opinion on some of those games but the point is we weren't actually that bad before Siewert. It was a disgraceful season but the complete nosedive occurred after the managerial switch. I think we would have gone down anyway but with a bit more grace.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 8, 2023 13:01:15 GMT 1
Calm down dear It was a stupid decision imo and did absolutely nothing for morale. Changing captains at that stage in the season was idiotic. He got sent off??? FFS I didn't realise that meant immediate stripping of the captaincy Siewart was a terrible appointment, probably the worst in premier League history, it's not even a debate but you carry on arguing black is white, you seem to enjoy it. It was a terrible appointment. He was terrible. But so was Wagner that season but people like you try and pretend that he wasn't. We were down before we'd even heard of Jan Siewert. It was one of the most forgettable seasons I can remember. Ridiculous recruitment, tactics, managerial appointments and players strolling around like they were on a Sunday walk with the family. Top to bottom it was an absolute shitshow. Unbelievably, it this stage (matchday 15) that season, we had double the amount of points that Sheffield United currently have and were 1 point clear of the relegation zone. We only managed 6 more points until the end of the season, 1 win with 3 draws.
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 8, 2023 13:02:24 GMT 1
Always excuses 😂 We didn't compete in every game at all. You can disagree with his opinion on some of those games but the point is we weren't actually that bad before Siewert. It was a disgraceful season but the complete nosedive occurred after the managerial switch. I think we would have gone down anyway but with a bit more grace. We hadn't won a game in 11 before he arrived 😂 Before Siewert arrived, we'd only won seven games in 12 months, two of which were FA Cup games. We were going down a whimper no matter who the manager was. There were a couple of decent performances under Siewert, to be fair, but these get swept under the rug because it doesn't suit the narrative.
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 8, 2023 13:04:10 GMT 1
It was a terrible appointment. He was terrible. But so was Wagner that season but people like you try and pretend that he wasn't. We were down before we'd even heard of Jan Siewert. It was one of the most forgettable seasons I can remember. Ridiculous recruitment, tactics, managerial appointments and players strolling around like they were on a Sunday walk with the family. Top to bottom it was an absolute shitshow. Unbelievably, it this stage (matchday 15) that season, we had double the amount of points that Sheffield United currently have and were 1 point clear of the relegation zone. We only managed 6 more points until the end of the season, 1 win with 3 draws. We didn't win a match until November. We went 10 without a win at the start of the season. The whole season was a load of bollocks, from start to finish.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 8, 2023 13:08:48 GMT 1
It was one of the most forgettable seasons I can remember. Ridiculous recruitment, tactics, managerial appointments and players strolling around like they were on a Sunday walk with the family. Top to bottom it was an absolute shitshow. Unbelievably, it this stage (matchday 15) that season, we had double the amount of points that Sheffield United currently have and were 1 point clear of the relegation zone. We only managed 6 more points until the end of the season, 1 win with 3 draws. We didn't win a match until November. We went 10 without a win at the start of the season. The whole season was a load of bollocks, from start to finish. Bonfire night at home to Fulham, it was an own goal that won it aswell 🤣 The only people that came out of that season with any credit were the fans.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 8, 2023 13:36:03 GMT 1
Reading between the lines of castlehill terriers post,"owner of the Stadium or Stadium" does this mean if Kevin cannot buy the John Smiths Stadium,he is prepared to build a new one? That's the first thing I thought when I read that, but thought I was perhaps reading too much into it. I was thinking more if he doesn't buy it, sponsor it. Pump his money into naming rights of the stadium.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 8, 2023 13:41:09 GMT 1
Calm down dear It was a stupid decision imo and did absolutely nothing for morale. Changing captains at that stage in the season was idiotic. He got sent off??? FFS I didn't realise that meant immediate stripping of the captaincy Siewart was a terrible appointment, probably the worst in premier League history, it's not even a debate but you carry on arguing black is white, you seem to enjoy it. It was a terrible appointment. He was terrible. But so was Wagner that season but people like you try and pretend that he wasn't. We were down before we'd even heard of Jan Siewert. People also forget JS lost narrowly a lot of the time. 1-0 Brighton 2-1 Arsenal 4-3 West Ham Beat wolves home Drew UTD and ouuthampton away (edit We got hammered by Chelsea Spurs and Liverpool)
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Post by htafcokay on Dec 8, 2023 13:45:29 GMT 1
It was a terrible appointment. He was terrible. But so was Wagner that season but people like you try and pretend that he wasn't. We were down before we'd even heard of Jan Siewert. People also forget JS lost narrowly a lot of the time. 1-0 Brighton 2-1 Arsenal 4-3 West Ham Beat wolves home Drew UTD and ouuthampton away We got hammered But it doesn't suit the narrative, does it? Wagner = untouchable. Siewert = bag of shite. In reality, Wagner took charge of 22 games that season and won two. Siewert took charge of 15 games and won one. Both were a bag of shite that season.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Dec 8, 2023 13:54:25 GMT 1
It was a terrible appointment. He was terrible. But so was Wagner that season but people like you try and pretend that he wasn't. We were down before we'd even heard of Jan Siewert. People also forget JS lost narrowly a lot of the time. 1-0 Brighton 2-1 Arsenal 4-3 West Ham Beat wolves home Drew UTD and ouuthampton away We got hammered All town managers beat Wolves.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 8, 2023 14:05:07 GMT 1
People also forget JS lost narrowly a lot of the time. 1-0 Brighton 2-1 Arsenal 4-3 West Ham Beat wolves home Drew UTD and ouuthampton away We got hammered All town managers beat Wolves. I remember Powell losing 4-1 at home No idea if he managed against them away. We do seem to be a bit of a bogey team for Wolves though.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Dec 8, 2023 14:42:43 GMT 1
All town managers beat Wolves. I remember Powell losing 4-1 at home No idea if he managed against them away. We do seem to be a bit of a bogey team for Wolves though. Powell beat them 3-1 away, Conor Coady scored a wonderstrike, Town were awesome that night.
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Post by Amigo on Dec 8, 2023 16:04:17 GMT 1
We were but we weren't actually that bad. In that run there's - Brighton at home, couple of dodgy decisions. Bournemouth away we lost but played well and deserved at least a point probably more. Arsenal away lost to a very late goal. Newcastle at home again deserved at least a draw. Southampton at home not great. Man United away we had chances and could easily have drawn. Fulham away lost in 90th minute. Burnley at home played most of the game with 10 men. Cardiff away should have won. The results themselves were shit but we weren't played bad and very much competing in every game. Always excuses 😂 We didn't compete in every game at all. Ok resident negative, which of those games were we not competitive? Most of those we had more shots and chances, I'd say that's being competitive. Guess it's easier to laugh and just say "always excuses" and say we didn't compete.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 8, 2023 16:07:02 GMT 1
I remember Powell losing 4-1 at home No idea if he managed against them away. We do seem to be a bit of a bogey team for Wolves though. Powell beat them 3-1 away, Conor Coady scored a wonderstrike, Town were awesome that night. Speaking of Coady, surely we got a decent sell-on fee when he joined Leicester for a reported £7.5m?
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Post by mosher on Dec 8, 2023 16:59:02 GMT 1
Powell beat them 3-1 away, Conor Coady scored a wonderstrike, Town were awesome that night. Speaking of Coady, surely we got a decent sell-on fee when he joined Leicester for a reported £7.5m? No, Dean did. [runs and hides after chucking THAT grenade]
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Post by rockwall on Dec 8, 2023 17:00:31 GMT 1
I remember Powell losing 4-1 at home No idea if he managed against them away. We do seem to be a bit of a bogey team for Wolves though. Powell beat them 3-1 away, Conor Coady scored a wonderstrike, Town were awesome that night. Now you mention the Coady goal, I remember it!!
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Post by Teddington Ted on Dec 8, 2023 18:15:02 GMT 1
Hamer started the season ahead of Lossl due to DW having a hissy fit about his contract negotiations. Wagner bought the ‘African wingers’ for £27m, selling Ince in the process. Siewart playing them is a far lesser crime. The squad was a mess, the team in free fall and the whole club an absolute car crash. Siewart picking Rowe had very little to do with that. One was french and one was belgian so think you should get rid of that ridiculous post that just screams you’re a massive racist I agree. Sorry I didn’t make it clear but the quotation marks around the words were meant to show my disdain for the phrase used by a previous poster.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Dec 8, 2023 20:01:21 GMT 1
Old enough then to know the difference between 'dislike intensely' and 'hate' It did seem like an OTT statement but, then again, who are you to tell him how he feels ? 🤷 I'm Shortbread Pete but I wasn't telling him how he feels but rather how to express himself without sounding ridiculous
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Post by boooothy on Dec 8, 2023 21:04:04 GMT 1
One was french and one was belgian so think you should get rid of that ridiculous post that just screams you’re a massive racist I agree. Sorry I didn’t make it clear but the quotation marks around the words were meant to show my disdain for the phrase used by a previous poster. My post also had quotation marks which as someone has already pointed out was reference to a silly old man at Odeon cinema.
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Post by boooothy on Dec 8, 2023 21:08:48 GMT 1
It did seem like an OTT statement but, then again, who are you to tell him how he feels ? 🤷 I'm Shortbread Pete but I wasn't telling him how he feels but rather how to express himself without sounding ridiculous I don’t wish any ills on the man so maybe hate is a daft word to use. However i’m convinced he cost our club millions of pounds by simply acting like an absolute tool. Nothing to do with notepads and who wants to leave. Just shouting down at players like Billing, Lossl, Zanka who have had careers that joker can only dream of. Apologies for knocking this thread completely off track. I have really enjoyed the documentary series!!! Kev looks like a good guy to me who really wants to help the town of Huddersfield.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Dec 8, 2023 21:17:46 GMT 1
That's the first thing I thought when I read that, but thought I was perhaps reading too much into it. I was thinking more if he doesn't buy it, sponsor it. Pump his money into naming rights of the stadium. Kev’s Kingdom by the Colne?
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Post by Teddington Ted on Dec 8, 2023 21:21:31 GMT 1
I agree. Sorry I didn’t make it clear but the quotation marks around the words were meant to show my disdain for the phrase used by a previous poster. My post also had quotation marks which as someone has already pointed out was reference to a silly old man at Odeon cinema. Apologies again - I was unaware of the origin of this.
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