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Post by JonsonClarkParis on Jul 27, 2023 11:26:19 GMT 1
My mate at barnsley says he's absolutely shite
How underwhelming....
Same old town with not a pot to piss in even after a takeover.
Loaning players of rivals in the same league who can't get a kick for there club.
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Post by Sio on Jul 27, 2023 11:26:49 GMT 1
Stoke and Barnsley fans don't have much good to say about him. Hopefully Warnock can work his magic again I give zero thought to what other fans say about players leaving. It’s a bit like people who leave reviews online, the majority who voice have beef. How often are they wrong? Football fans can be daft but they're usually a decent gauge when it comes to calling out players, managers, staff etc, unless they've left on genuinely bad terms. |
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Post by mosher on Jul 27, 2023 11:31:17 GMT 1
My mate at barnsley says he's absolutely shite How underwhelming.... Same old town with not a pot to piss in even after a takeover. Loaning players of rivals in the same league who can't get a kick for there club. He's probably as positive about his team as often as you usually are about ours. Edit: Oops, forgot the  |
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Post by wildhogg on Jul 27, 2023 11:32:34 GMT 1
Underwhelming in terms of him not being the 'name' we were hoping for, but potentially a decent acquisition in a position we were short in.
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Post by Kirchenglocken on Jul 27, 2023 11:33:44 GMT 1
A very strange signing. Yes we need a right back, but this lad has hardly got a kick for Stoke. Who else do we want? A young kid from the top level costs and can go either way as we saw last season. An older head like Lowton on a 1 year deal? Or a 26-27 year old primed championship quality fullback? Come on, the last option won't even be under consideration. Turton improved and became a very solid and dependable player for us, I assume the club expect him to become our starting rb again. If he's not the same after injury or this lad from Stoke does a good job we can likely look to make it permanent. More than a top rb we need someone to fill in for a few months and offer good competition. This guy does that on paper while reducing the need for us to bring in just any old central midfielder. |
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Post by bentley316 on Jul 27, 2023 11:38:29 GMT 1
2 years playing in the MLS...Wondering if thats going to be a theme for new additions moving forward.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Jul 27, 2023 11:40:40 GMT 1
Shame it's not Yan Valery. Out of our pauper's price range, I presume.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 27, 2023 11:42:12 GMT 1
Certainly uderwhelming, but a far less influential position than CM and CF, so not gonna lose my shit 😃......yet.
Note - my mate, and one I respect the opinion of, says the worst Oldham player ever was Phil Starbuck.....
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2023 11:50:02 GMT 1
Stoke and Barnsley fans don't have much good to say about him. Hopefully Warnock can work his magic again MK Dons fans were slating and happy to get rid of Nicholas too.... Good signing and I expect a few more like this in the next week or so. That's not how I remember it. www.sitdownorwellstealyourclub.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6365 |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 27, 2023 11:53:12 GMT 1
My mate at barnsley says he's absolutely shite How underwhelming.... Same old town with not a pot to piss in even after a takeover. Loaning players of rivals in the same league who can't get a kick for there club. Remember the Wednesday fans saying the same with Lees. Going off their reviews we thought we were getting a dud. Same with Pearson at Luton and Turton at Blackpool. They haven't done too badly here, have they? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 11:56:41 GMT 1
ooof...
Well..anyone surprised? I've been saying it for a while that the money has been stripped out of the club and finally i think everyone is smelling the coffee..
Anyway it has been done to death.
I'm not really worried about this signing; I hope long term we intend to go for 3 at the back and Sorba as a RWB (until Turton is back) and Headley on the other side.
We were very good under Carlos with that system, people forget we won at Fulham, Forest, Boro - beat Blackburn etc etc
I think this is plugging the gaps and this signing wasn't ever intended to give us a starting 11 RB; worst case until Turton is back.
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It gets conveniently swept under the carpet that we get 2.0m a year from the 16m Grant sale.
Plus we're surely getting a few million a year for the 16m Billing sale?
Also 3.5m this year from Camara/Coady.
Also increased Championship TV money
Plus the playoff run money etcc
This isn't even accounting for 200m EPL money, 80m in the last few years in player sales and another 100m in the last 3 years parachute payments
It's scandalous really that these big chunks get "forgotten" about.
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Post by crux on Jul 27, 2023 12:03:02 GMT 1
We could sign Messi, Mbappe & Ronaldo and knowing our luck they'd all be shite playing for Town. Any transfer is a gamble, this is a slightly underwhelming but low cost gamble. It's an area of the pitch we needed cover for and he's a decent age. According to our friendly Stoke fan Chadders, he's not a bad player but has lost his way a bit recently. Hopefully NW & RJ can get him playing his best.
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Post by mosher on Jul 27, 2023 12:03:29 GMT 1
ooof... Well..anyone surprised? I've been saying it for a while that the money has been stripped out of the club and finally i think everyone is smelling the coffee.. Anyway it has been done to death. I'm not really worried about this signing; I hope long term we intend to go for 3 at the back and Sorba as a RWB (until Turton is back) and Headley on the other side. We were very good under Carlos with that system, people forget we won at Fulham, Forest, Boro - beat Blackburn etc etc I think this is plugging the gaps and this signing wasn't ever intended to give us a starting 11 RB; worst case until Turton is back. ... It gets conveniently swept under the carpet that we get 2.0m a year from the 16m Grant sale. Plus we're surely getting a few million a year for the 16m Billing sale? Also 3.5m this year from Camara/Coady. Also increased Championship TV money Plus the playoff run money etcc This isn't even accounting for 200m EPL money, 80m in the last few years in player sales and another 100m in the last 3 years parachute payments It's scandalous really that these big chunks get "forgotten" about.Nobody's forgotten a thing. But some of us actually READ the post months ago that detailed the wages, operating costs, outgoing transfer fees and other costs that swallowed ALL the PL money, including the parachute payments. If you (and others obviously) choose to ignore that breakdown that's not the club's fault. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2023 12:10:44 GMT 1
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 27, 2023 12:13:52 GMT 1
We could sign Messi, Mbappe & Ronaldo and knowing our luck they'd all be shite playing for Town. Any transfer is a gamble, this is a slightly underwhelming but low cost gamble. It's an area of the pitch we needed cover for and he's a decent age. According to our friendly Stoke fan Chadders, he's not a bad player but has lost his way a bit recently. Hopefully NW & RJ can get him playing his best. If any manager can get a player firing again it's Warnock. |
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Post by uw2ba on Jul 27, 2023 12:14:17 GMT 1
I'm confused as to why there is so much whinging on this forum.
We were doomed for administration and league one, we have managed to stay in the championship.
We have managed to keep the same 2 legends who kept us up for one more season. We will be nowhere near the relegation zone.
Warnock teams are built on hunger and desire and being tactically astute. Tom Edwards has not kicked a ball for us yet but if he's hungry and passionate and will run through brick walls for Warnock this season then how can we grumble already? Warnock has already proven that he can turn players around with his man management skills. If he is good enough he will play if he isn't he won't.
I know the pre season opposition hasnt been the toughest but what reason have people got for suddenly moaning again? We have won all but one and our young players look capable.
We had top 6 form under warnock without sorba Thomas, lee Nicholls etc. We now have hudlin and others who are all keen to work for Warnock and who so far have looked good.
We are clearly going to sign some players in more influential positions (CF and CM) so if the budget is tight for this season then id rather we don't spend much on a right back
Come on guys let's at least give the club the benefit of the doubt before we start complaining and changing the euphoric atmosphere from the end of last season back to the negative one
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 27, 2023 12:15:59 GMT 1
some people writing him off before he's even played a game for us.
if we get a starting 11 that will run through brick walls for Warnock that will do me.
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2023 12:16:54 GMT 1
Give the lad a chance, we're clearly skint (don't think i've ever known a club be bought and have less money to spend than before). Its a solid addition, not many are going to want to come and be backup right back/rotational. Think its a good addition personally that could be a permanent relatively cheap at the end of the season. Seems he can also cover RCB too. Completely free at end of season. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50181844With that in mind it seems strange that we've got him on loan as opposed to just giving him a one year contract. Nice that he can cover RCB but I can't see that being terribly useful given the number of right footed CBs we already have. |
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Post by crux on Jul 27, 2023 12:18:28 GMT 1
Give the lad a chance, we're clearly skint (don't think i've ever known a club be bought and have less money to spend than before). Its a solid addition, not many are going to want to come and be backup right back/rotational. Think its a good addition personally that could be a permanent relatively cheap at the end of the season. Seems he can also cover RCB too. Completely free at end of season. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50181844With that in mind it seems strange that we've got him on loan as opposed to just giving him a one year contract. Nice that he can cover RCB but I can't see that being terribly useful given the number of right footed CBs we already have. We've obviously got Stoke to pay a decent portion of his wages 😗😉👍 |
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Post by mosher on Jul 27, 2023 12:21:50 GMT 1
Only had a quick glance, but what I saw seemed to split fairly evenly between billy big bollocks and give the lad a chance. Only noticed two saying he was shit, most seemed to think he'd be reliable back-up. Seems that's what we've brought him in for. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 27, 2023 12:22:40 GMT 1
With NW predominantly playing 352 in pre-season I suspect he'll be cover for Sorba playing RWB.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 27, 2023 12:24:19 GMT 1
"So Edwards is represented by Beswicks and now he ends up at Huddersfield where their pal Cartwright is. It stinks.
No way has Warnock signed Edwards.
God help Huddersfield"
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Post by Terriersmad on Jul 27, 2023 12:29:27 GMT 1
Seems like sensible business. We have Turton as a senior right-back and needed another, with Brodie Spencer a prospect who isn't quite ready to play week-in, week-out yet. With that in mind, we weren't going to bring in a 'top' player when we already had options and needed to have cover for Turton while he's out. Low-risk, relatively low cost. Not exciting, but you don't need every signing to be exciting. If it doesn't work out, it isn't like we've brought him in on a long-term contact.
Now for a ball-player in the middle and a striker.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 27, 2023 12:30:19 GMT 1
Give the lad a chance, we're clearly skint (don't think i've ever known a club be bought and have less money to spend than before). Its a solid addition, not many are going to want to come and be backup right back/rotational. Think its a good addition personally that could be a permanent relatively cheap at the end of the season. Seems he can also cover RCB too. Completely free at end of season. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50181844With that in mind it seems strange that we've got him on loan as opposed to just giving him a one year contract. Nice that he can cover RCB but I can't see that being terribly useful given the number of right footed CBs we already have. They might be covering some of his wages. |
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Post by foxtrot666 on Jul 27, 2023 12:32:19 GMT 1
A bit underwhelming I admit and if he was that great would Stoke let him go ? Having said that maybe Warnock can improve him and he turns out to be half decent.
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 27, 2023 12:33:04 GMT 1
Only had a quick glance, but what I saw seemed to split fairly evenly between billy big bollocks and give the lad a chance. Only noticed two saying he was shit, most seemed to think he'd be reliable back-up. Seems that's what we've brought him in for. 🤔🤔🤔 "So Edwards is represented by Beswicks and now he ends up at Huddersfield where their pal Cartwright is. It stinks. No way has Warnock signed Edwards. God help Huddersfield" "As long as we don't see him on the pitch again in a Stoke kit I'm pleased!" "Just had a nosey on their board. They think he's an excellent signing and very versatile. I almost feel sorry for them." "As I intimated yesterday mate about the club he was going to I’m absolutely amazed Warnock of all managers thinks he’s good enough🤔Time will tell how it works out but reading their board it seems like their fans are desperate for new signings" |
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Post by chadders51 on Jul 27, 2023 12:35:41 GMT 1
"So Edwards is represented by Beswicks and now he ends up at Huddersfield where their pal Cartwright is. It stinks. No way has Warnock signed Edwards. God help Huddersfield" The Beswick/Cartwright thing seemed to be instrumental a few times in bringing players to Stoke |
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Post by prepare on Jul 27, 2023 12:37:01 GMT 1
"So Edwards is represented by Beswicks and now he ends up at Huddersfield where their pal Cartwright is. It stinks. No way has Warnock signed Edwards. God help Huddersfield" god help you for posting such bullshine !! Utt |
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Post by chadders51 on Jul 27, 2023 12:38:01 GMT 1
Only had a quick glance, but what I saw seemed to split fairly evenly between billy big bollocks and give the lad a chance. Only noticed two saying he was shit, most seemed to think he'd be reliable back-up. Seems that's what we've brought him in for. 🤔🤔🤔 "So Edwards is represented by Beswicks and now he ends up at Huddersfield where their pal Cartwright is. It stinks. No way has Warnock signed Edwards. God help Huddersfield" "As long as we don't see him on the pitch again in a Stoke kit I'm pleased!" "Just had a nosey on their board. They think he's an excellent signing and very versatile. I almost feel sorry for them." "As I intimated yesterday mate about the club he was going to I’m absolutely amazed Warnock of all managers thinks he’s good enough🤔Time will tell how it works out but reading their board it seems like their fans are desperate for new signings" Those quotes are a bit unfair on the lad. He’s better than that He lost his way If anyone can get him back to his best it’s probably Colin |
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 27, 2023 12:41:33 GMT 1
Reading his bio, it looks like he's always been held in high regard. Never really kicked on from all the promise. I'd be worried if he was 28/29, but he's only 24, so plenty of time to gain confidence and show some of the promise that he had as a youngster.
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