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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 8, 2024 18:10:28 GMT 1
Someone left a good comment the other day basically saying that apart from being run ragged by Sunnerville v Leeds whats he done thats particlarly bad, ok he was out of condition and all the rest, hes come on as sub a few times and had an impact once (assist v watford), hes not the devil incarnate and anyone who boos their own players should just go jump in the sewerage works with all the rest of the shit. Playing like he did against Leeds, claiming a concussion so he could come off at half time and then going out on the piss that evening means I'll never have much time for him Plus this is a footballer clearly over weight, yet as stated used a head injury to get off then go on the piss? if Edwards cared about what he was doing, or his career he would have lost some weight , he has being under our banner as it were for what 9 months now and he is still i would say massivley over weight for a pro football. The fact the club or more importantly himself have not sorted that out shows a lack of care or interst on both parts. |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Apr 8, 2024 18:40:20 GMT 1
It doesn't matter if he is the most over weight player ever you do not boo your own players it is Appalling and childish. And while we are on the subject, i have heard several rumor's or call them what you want about one of our injured players who is out on the lash regular and big time when he was playing, i wouldn't boo them if they came on i would just call them a fecking idiot because you give these people enough rope and they will hang them selves.
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Post by chadders51 on Apr 8, 2024 19:59:11 GMT 1
When he got into the Stoke team he seemed the real deal. Just like now however there started to be rumours that he was as to fond of being out on the Town Can’t remember when it all went wrong at Stoke , he was out injured and never really came back. Certainly never lacked effort at Stoke. Always gave 100%Seemed to do ok in the States
He’s still only 25. Obviously his career hasn’t gone as well as it looked like it might but having seen him at his best I know there’s a bloody good full back in there
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 8, 2024 20:29:04 GMT 1
When he got into the Stoke team he seemed the real deal. Just like now however there started to be rumours that he was as to fond of being out on the Town Can’t remember when it all went wrong at Stoke , he was out injured and never really came back. Certainly never lacked effort at Stoke. Always gave 100%Seemed to do ok in the States He’s still only 25. Obviously his career hasn’t gone as well as it looked like it might but having seen him at his best I know there’s a bloody good full back in there Never understand these footballers who fail to make the most of their ability for the sake of getting pissed. Your career is over mid 30s, get pissed then |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Apr 8, 2024 20:35:37 GMT 1
When he got into the Stoke team he seemed the real deal. Just like now however there started to be rumours that he was as to fond of being out on the Town Can’t remember when it all went wrong at Stoke , he was out injured and never really came back. Certainly never lacked effort at Stoke. Always gave 100%Seemed to do ok in the States He’s still only 25. Obviously his career hasn’t gone as well as it looked like it might but having seen him at his best I know there’s a bloody good full back in there Never understand these footballers who fail to make the most of their ability for the sake of getting pissed. Your career is over mid 30s, get pissed then Absolutely this. James Milner has famously never touched a drop. His rationale is that not drinking makes him a better professional, and that he has plenty of time to have a drink when he's retired. (For the avoidance of doubt, this post has been written by a bloke he has had a drink most days since turning 17. Maybe if I'd never tried, I might have 600 PL appearances by now 😉) |
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 8, 2024 21:16:03 GMT 1
I think you're transferring your own thoughts. Most fans in the ground won't have a clue or indeed a care what Cartwright is responsible for, if they even know who he is. I don't think you'd find many who don't know who the DoF is?! I think you'd be surprised. Most fans unlike us are not the type who pore over every bit of info and sit on a forum every day soaking up whatever they can about Town! |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 8, 2024 21:58:06 GMT 1
Is Tom Edwards out of contract at Stoke in the summer?
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 8, 2024 22:02:10 GMT 1
Is Tom Edwards out of contract at Stoke in the summer? I'm sure Mark Cartwright will want to know whether we'll need to pay a fee to bring his son here full time |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 8, 2024 23:51:43 GMT 1
He's not even that bad compared to some of the absolute crap we've seen down there.
I've seen some say he's one of the worst ever, which is hilarious when the current squad contains the likes of Kyle Hudlin and Tyreece Simpson.
But then it's like how Ollie Turton went from being "a Conference player" to "the Ginger Cafu" within about two months.
Yeah, he's not great, but apart from getting rinsed at Leeds, what has he actually done?
Being booed onto the pitch is laughable, but I expect nothing less from a group of supporters that were booing our best player onto the pitch and chanting "PAEDO" at him just months ago.
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Post by htfcterry on Apr 9, 2024 6:55:19 GMT 1
I thought the booing was relating to the managers decision to bring him on and the situation of the game with us needing a win rather than been aimed directly at Tom Edwards.
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Post by utttrooper on Apr 9, 2024 7:29:57 GMT 1
I thought the booing was relating to the managers decision to bring him on and the situation of the game with us needing a win rather than been aimed directly at Tom Edwards. It was probably both. Just frustration at bringing on a defender and frustration it was Tom Edwards whose had quite a few crap displays |
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Apr 9, 2024 8:00:20 GMT 1
When he got into the Stoke team he seemed the real deal. Just like now however there started to be rumours that he was as to fond of being out on the Town Can’t remember when it all went wrong at Stoke , he was out injured and never really came back. Certainly never lacked effort at Stoke. Always gave 100%Seemed to do ok in the States He’s still only 25. Obviously his career hasn’t gone as well as it looked like it might but having seen him at his best I know there’s a bloody good full back in there Never understand these footballers who fail to make the most of their ability for the sake of getting pissed. Your career is over mid 30s, get pissed then Years ago I probably had the same opinion but these days I understand things are not as one dimensional or as black and white as that. Human beings are complex, as is the brain - I would never criticise him for that. For his sake, I hope he ends up having a decent career as young enough to turn it round. Would I like to see us sign him permanently? No, but that is just because of performances and thinking we can sign better. However, I have no ill feeling towards him and wish him all the best. I would never boo one of our own players (especially when coming on) - that thought process is completely alien to me. That said, I’ve never booed full stop…not gonna start now as a middle-aged man…I think I would die of cringe if I did! |
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Apr 9, 2024 8:36:31 GMT 1
I thought the booing was relating to the managers decision to bring him on and the situation of the game with us needing a win rather than been aimed directly at Tom Edwards. It was probably both. Just frustration at bringing on a defender and frustration it was Tom Edwards whose had quite a few crap displays Maybe the manager knows what he's doing by bringing him on late in a game. Brought him on twice, Watford away, Millwall home, 1 point turned into 6. |
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 9, 2024 10:24:56 GMT 1
I thought the booing was relating to the managers decision to bring him on and the situation of the game with us needing a win rather than been aimed directly at Tom Edwards. It was probably both. Just frustration at bringing on a defender and frustration it was Tom Edwards whose had quite a few crap displays Also there's an element of an exasperated groan (like happened after his ridiculously miss-hit passes) rather than an actual concious BOOO. Similar to the groan thats heard when a shot zooms miles over or pings off a post. Its not, "you're shit get out of the club", its just frustration at the 'could have been' - and the players do it too...Healey slapping the floor after seeing what was not even a half chance get away from him, Thomas throwing his arms up at Koroma for not getting a shot off or not finding him (despite being in a crowd of players). It's football, and its FINE and actually GOOD to groan and moan at your team mates on the pitch or from the stands in those moments. Take away that invested passion and desire to do well and you might as well stop watching. |
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Post by philstarbuckscoffee on Apr 9, 2024 13:09:07 GMT 1
Tom Edwards may be overweight and a terrible pro, but he can put in a decent cross. Andre mentioned this in a recent press conference. Shame it is not American Football and he can't be brought on just to make a delivery!
If the above is the case about his professionalism, then what a waste if he has the ability to be a pro at this level and it is his actual fitness (not injuries) holding him back! Mental.
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Post by willo on Apr 9, 2024 14:18:30 GMT 1
I’m still surprised he wasn’t sent back to Stoke in January (unless we couldn’t) which would have killed this thread. I’d never boo a Town player but I couldn’t applaud Edwards coming on on Saturday as I think for a pro footballer, he’s overweight, out of shape and just not very good. He then proceeded to prove me correct.
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Post by mosher on Apr 9, 2024 15:34:40 GMT 1
Never understand these footballers who fail to make the most of their ability for the sake of getting pissed. Your career is over mid 30s, get pissed then Years ago I probably had the same opinion but these days I understand things are not as one dimensional or as black and white as that. Human beings are complex, as is the brain - I would never criticise him for that. For his sake, I hope he ends up having a decent career as young enough to turn it round. Would I like to see us sign him permanently? No, but that is just because of performances and thinking we can sign better. However, I have no ill feeling towards him and wish him all the best. I would never boo one of our own players (especially when coming on) - that thought process is completely alien to me. That said, I’ve never booed full stop…not gonna start now as a middle-aged man…I think I would die of cringe if I did! Are you SURE you're middle aged, that's the most "today's youth" thing I've read on here all day  |
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Post by pauldaltonsboots on Apr 9, 2024 16:20:18 GMT 1
Years ago I probably had the same opinion but these days I understand things are not as one dimensional or as black and white as that. Human beings are complex, as is the brain - I would never criticise him for that. For his sake, I hope he ends up having a decent career as young enough to turn it round. Would I like to see us sign him permanently? No, but that is just because of performances and thinking we can sign better. However, I have no ill feeling towards him and wish him all the best. I would never boo one of our own players (especially when coming on) - that thought process is completely alien to me. That said, I’ve never booed full stop…not gonna start now as a middle-aged man…I think I would die of cringe if I did! Are you SURE you're middle aged, that's the most "today's youth" thing I've read on here all day Haha not every day I get called young, so thank you, I will take it! |
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Post by andyeastleake on Apr 9, 2024 19:24:14 GMT 1
Never understand these footballers who fail to make the most of their ability for the sake of getting pissed. Your career is over mid 30s, get pissed then Absolutely this. James Milner has famously never touched a drop. His rationale is that not drinking makes him a better professional, and that he has plenty of time to have a drink when he's retired. (For the avoidance of doubt, this post has been written by a bloke he has had a drink most days since turning 17. Maybe if I'd never tried, I might have 600 PL appearances by now 😉) Personally I believe there were factors* other than alcohol which prevented me from playing for Town. On the subject of Tom Edwards I can't believe the (out of) condition he has allowed himself to fall into. Whilst he's wearing Blue & White he shouldn't be booed onto the pitch but in that condition I'm amazed we're in the position we cannot improve his fitness and we feel we have to put him on the pitch. * The factor was primarily I'm a bit sh8*te. Although TBF this hasn't stopped some others wearing the Blue and white. |
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Post by chadders51 on Apr 9, 2024 20:07:40 GMT 1
Is Tom Edwards out of contract at Stoke in the summer? I believe he has another year. Could be wrong |
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Post by wildhogg on Apr 9, 2024 20:44:27 GMT 1
Edwards actually has good ability. A nice passer, good crosser and he can defend. Unfortunately he's choosing to be a bloater.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Apr 9, 2024 20:56:12 GMT 1
I’d never boo one of our own players…
…except for Lukas Jutkiewicz
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Post by FloridaTerrier on May 4, 2024 13:25:44 GMT 1
I'll put my tinhat on for this. but Edwards has top end championship/bottom prem level technical ability. But, fitness levels and weight management of a 9th tier semi pro. It's a shame.
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Post by htfcfcfc on May 4, 2024 13:27:24 GMT 1
I'll put my tinhat on for this. but Edwards has top end championship/bottom prem level technical ability. But, fitness levels and weight management of a 9th tier semi pro. It's a shame. Thought exactly the same. He must have something to be able to look comfortable. Hard to understand a players mentality to not rinse every ounce of ability in a short career (probably not an ideal phrase for this topic) |
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Post by prepare on May 4, 2024 13:31:11 GMT 1
I'll put my tinhat on for this. but Edwards has top end championship/bottom prem level technical ability. But, fitness levels and weight management of a 9th tier semi pro. It's a shame. Thought exactly amthe same. He must have something to be able to look comfortable. Hard to understand a players mentality to not rinse every ounce of ability in a short career (probably not an ideal phrase for this topic) he has had a decent first half |
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Post by mickydombat on May 4, 2024 13:35:03 GMT 1
He's effing awful and also like others can't pass.
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Post by turbo2 on May 4, 2024 13:35:48 GMT 1
I'll put my tinhat on for this. but Edwards has top end championship/bottom prem level technical ability. But, fitness levels and weight management of a 9th tier semi pro. It's a shame. Thought exactly the same. He must have something to be able to look comfortable. Hard to understand a players mentality to not rinse every ounce of ability in a short career (probably not an ideal phrase for this topic) I always laugh at ex pros who pile weight on after finishing but this lad is in the middle of his career. What is he thinking about. It’s just incredible |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on May 4, 2024 13:50:49 GMT 1
Thought exactly the same. He must have something to be able to look comfortable. Hard to understand a players mentality to not rinse every ounce of ability in a short career (probably not an ideal phrase for this topic) I always laugh at ex pros who pile weight on after finishing but this lad is in the middle of his career. What is he thinking about. It’s just incredible I do wonder if he does has weight issues. Similar to Goetze that Dortmund had? Or something similar. |
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Post by Wingman on May 4, 2024 13:57:24 GMT 1
I always laugh at ex pros who pile weight on after finishing but this lad is in the middle of his career. What is he thinking about. It’s just incredible I do wonder if he does has weight issues. Similar to Goetze that Dortmund had? Or something similar. Only time Goetze and Tom Edwards will be mentioned in the same conversation. |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on May 4, 2024 14:03:27 GMT 1
I do wonder if he does has weight issues. Similar to Goetze that Dortmund had? Or something similar. Only time Goetze and Tom Edwards will be mentioned in the same conversation.  |
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