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Post by Porrohman on Jul 27, 2023 12:44:12 GMT 1
"So Edwards is represented by Beswicks and now he ends up at Huddersfield where their pal Cartwright is. It stinks. No way has Warnock signed Edwards. God help Huddersfield" god help you for posting such bullshine !! Utt It's a post from Stokes forum 🙄 |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 27, 2023 12:47:35 GMT 1
"So Edwards is represented by Beswicks and now he ends up at Huddersfield where their pal Cartwright is. It stinks. No way has Warnock signed Edwards. God help Huddersfield" god help you for posting such bullshine !! Utt He's only copy and pasting from the Stoke forum 😂😂😂 |
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Post by mosher on Jul 27, 2023 12:47:38 GMT 1
Only had a quick glance, but what I saw seemed to split fairly evenly between billy big bollocks and give the lad a chance. Only noticed two saying he was shit, most seemed to think he'd be reliable back-up. Seems that's what we've brought him in for. 🤔🤔🤔 "So Edwards is represented by Beswicks and now he ends up at Huddersfield where their pal Cartwright is. It stinks. No way has Warnock signed Edwards. God help Huddersfield" "As long as we don't see him on the pitch again in a Stoke kit I'm pleased!" "Just had a nosey on their board. They think he's an excellent signing and very versatile. I almost feel sorry for them." "As I intimated yesterday mate about the club he was going to I’m absolutely amazed Warnock of all managers thinks he’s good enough🤔Time will tell how it works out but reading their board it seems like their fans are desperate for new signings" But that's only 3 from god knows how many posts on the thread. There weren't JUST negative posts on the link. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 27, 2023 12:49:24 GMT 1
🤔🤔🤔 "So Edwards is represented by Beswicks and now he ends up at Huddersfield where their pal Cartwright is. It stinks. No way has Warnock signed Edwards. God help Huddersfield" "As long as we don't see him on the pitch again in a Stoke kit I'm pleased!" "Just had a nosey on their board. They think he's an excellent signing and very versatile. I almost feel sorry for them." "As I intimated yesterday mate about the club he was going to I’m absolutely amazed Warnock of all managers thinks he’s good enough🤔Time will tell how it works out but reading their board it seems like their fans are desperate for new signings" But that's only 3 from god knows how many posts on the thread. There weren't JUST negative posts on the link. There weren't any overly positive ones though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 12:55:09 GMT 1
Strange one. The info on the Town site says he started his career at Stoke really well, twice being named Stoke’s Under-18 Player of the Year. "His form under Mark Hughes led to a new long-term contract being signed in February 2018, and Edwards soon established himself as a regular. In the 2018/19 Sky Bet Championship campaign, Tom played 30 games across all competitions and earned his first England call-up, gaining three caps for the Under-20 national side."
This isn't someone who just hasn't managed to take the step up. Since Hughes left in 2018 Stoke have had 9 managers since then. He played 40 Championship games and 6 Premier League games, plus cup games, before he was 21, then it all seemed to go sideways at Stoke just after Michael O'Neill took over. O'Neill stayed there until Alex Neil took over last year but it looks like Edward's Stoke career was done by then.
You don't play that well as a youngster then suddenly become crap. There must be a decent player in there and if anyone can tease that player out it is Warnock.
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Post by mosher on Jul 27, 2023 12:56:02 GMT 1
But that's only 3 from god knows how many posts on the thread. There weren't JUST negative posts on the link. There weren't any overly positive ones though. Yeah, I'll admit there weren't any saying he was the reincarnation of Roberto Carlos, but there were a fair few saying he was a good prospect when he came through but injuries have fucked him. And even more that said he was a decent squad player and backup, which is what we appear to have brought him in for. Chadders seems to think it's an okay signing and he's usually been fairly even-handed when dealing with us on this board. I'm not saying I think he's going to be Tom Cowan-esque (or even Chris Billy-esque  ) but I'm willing to give him a shot. Especially with King Colin's history of getting the most out of average players. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 27, 2023 12:58:00 GMT 1
There weren't any overly positive ones though. Yeah, I'll admit there weren't any saying he was the reincarnation of Roberto Carlos, but there were a fair few saying he was a good prospect when he came through but injuries have fucked him. And even more that said he was a decent squad player and backup, which is what we appear to have brought him in for. Chadders seems to think it's an okay signing and he's usually been fairly even-handed when dealing with us on this board. I'm not saying I think he's going to be Tom Cowan-esque (or even Chris Billy-esque ) but I'm willing to give him a shot. Especially with King Colin's history of getting the most out of average players. Yeah, fair enough. I was just disappointed that it wasn't an exciting signing. |
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Post by townatheart on Jul 27, 2023 12:58:42 GMT 1
But that's only 3 from god knows how many posts on the thread. There weren't JUST negative posts on the link. There weren't any overly positive ones though. But there were positives, and you have chosen to highlight only negatives, is that correct? If so, what does it say? |
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Post by Drew Peacock on Jul 27, 2023 12:58:51 GMT 1
In terms of Right backs in the last few seasons we've signed;
Turton - Don't think anyone was particularly excited by this one initially and most fans thought he was shit to start with. Ended up being a solid 7 player.
Kesler-Hayden - Exciting signing from a Premier League club who most fans would have been delighted about at the time. He was dogshit 90% of the time let's be honest.
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Post by k1man999 on Jul 27, 2023 12:59:28 GMT 1
Warnock has turned players like Logan into footballers and many others
Reignited koroma last season if anyone had seen our board before that they wouldn't want him.
Let's give the lad a chance
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 27, 2023 13:01:09 GMT 1
"So Edwards is represented by Beswicks and now he ends up at Huddersfield where their pal Cartwright is. It stinks. No way has Warnock signed Edwards. God help Huddersfield" This comment is the one that caught my eye, too, on that thread. On one hand it makes sense for a DoF to use tried & trusted contacts but there is also the concern that it's done for the wrong reasons. Bit worrying that Chadders has said these links were quite common to Stoke under Cartwright but again, we have to initially give him the benefit of the doubt. That being said, we have to give the lad a chance, he's obviously been highly rated earlier in his career, he's still only 24 &, as we should know better than anyone, if anyone can turn a career round it's Neil. I would imagine that we will play 3-5-2 anyway, so he will be back up for Sorba. Good luck Tom. |
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Post by bblueterrier on Jul 27, 2023 13:01:32 GMT 1
Stoke rejected a 7 figure bid from NYRB last year who really liked him. He wanted a move back to England last season for family reasons. Impressed at Barnsley who were willing to take him on a perm despite injury issues. For me it's a similar signing to Turton competent if unspectacular. Rocket Ron is a big fan apparently. Expect more Beswicks Clients in the future - they played a big part in Nagle coming in.
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Post by Flowerdisco on Jul 27, 2023 13:03:18 GMT 1
Stoke and Barnsley fans don't have much good to say about him. Hopefully Warnock can work his magic again I give zero thought to what other fans say about players leaving. It’s a bit like people who leave reviews online, the majority who voice have beef. Just a thought if a Vegan is annoyed can he have beef? |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 27, 2023 13:05:19 GMT 1
There weren't any overly positive ones though. Yeah, I'll admit there weren't any saying he was the reincarnation of Roberto Carlos, but there were a fair few saying he was a good prospect when he came through but injuries have fucked him. And even more that said he was a decent squad player and backup, which is what we appear to have brought him in for. Chadders seems to think it's an okay signing and he's usually been fairly even-handed when dealing with us on this board. I'm not saying I think he's going to be Tom Cowan-esque (or even Chris Billy-esque ) but I'm willing to give him a shot. Especially with King Colin's history of getting the most out of average players. So we've signed a right back on loan from stoke, as back up, and he's not as good as Roberto Carlos?? I demand a refund on my season ticket!!! |
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Post by ldotm on Jul 27, 2023 13:07:08 GMT 1
My mate at barnsley says he's absolutely shite How underwhelming.... Same old town with not a pot to piss in even after a takeover. Loaning players of rivals in the same league who can't get a kick for there club. You don’t have mates, so don’t believe this one |
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Post by Tiro on Jul 27, 2023 13:19:05 GMT 1
I’ve never heard of him.
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Post by Richard1986 on Jul 27, 2023 13:28:08 GMT 1
And already there's posts on the summer thread saying how underwhelmed people are. Numerous posts saying how we desperately need a right back, sign a right back and still unhappy? How many good reports did we get about Lee Nicholls, the reserve keeper from MK Dons? I thought people would have learnt from that before decrying an inbound Terrier.  Very different to Nicholls. MK Dons fans were saying he was a good keeper who didn’t fit the system of playing it out from the back, whereas the comments of fans of Edwards former clubs are overwhelmingly negative. I don’t think it really matters as long as he’s a backup. He also has a long throw so maybe Warnock wants to utilise that if we’re chasing a game. Hudlin and Edwards double sub? It’s not just going to be when we’re chasing a game. Warnock always sets up hardworking organised and defensively solid teams playing direct balls into the box. |
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Post by RickDangerous on Jul 27, 2023 13:29:32 GMT 1
Same, so much for the Yankee Dollar. Interesting that he had a spell at New York Red Bulls |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Jul 27, 2023 13:43:35 GMT 1
Warnock "he is exactly what we were looking for" - cheap? smacks of Cartwright doing a friend a favour here. I will happily be proven wrong , i mean that happily. He hasn't kicked a ball for stoke since 2020, played for barnsley for a bit, then got injured and has played in America. The way the chap described himself, i was thinking hmm why have stoke loanedh im out then ? great cross going forward, loves defending ? yet are happy for him to come to us?
I love the idea that Warnock is magic and can turn any player around, but i feel its unfair to expect him to turn every single player around. Prove me wrong Tom. UTT
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Post by westislandterrier on Jul 27, 2023 13:58:43 GMT 1
Football is littered with players that just need the correct club to fit in and kick start the fire in their bellies and hopefully that’ll be the case with Tom at Huddersfield Town !
It may or may not work but Football transfers / loans are always like that and with the loan system it’s not never too much of a disaster for the club if a loan fails...
It’s not always about a big name and big cash and for example Celtic paid £5.5 million (a lot for a Scottish club in 1998) for a Brazilian disaster called Rafael Phillips Scheidt (actually seriously his surname was pronounced as Shite ! 😊 He turned out to be as big a disaster as the manager that signed him - John Barnes) ! They also in Covid season took the captain of Ireland Shane Duffy and he also was an unmitigated disaster in the backwater that is Scottish Football an environment that by their CV they should have ‘scooshed’ - That’s a Scottish word for dominated ! - For balance Rangers had the exact same scenario with Joey Barton -
Yet both clubs unearthed unheard of superstars and gems - Celtic picked up a superstar in Henrick Larsson a gueinue superstar that played for Barcelona and Manchester United and was a Champions League winner and they got him for £650,000 and Rangers picked up an unknown guy from Norwich City reserves in January called Todd Cantwell and he has shone very brightly in this backwater of football as well... so these are some examples of expensive and big reputational flops shown up against hugely economical gems !
So best wishes Tom - Welcome to Huddersfield Town and here’s hoping that you turn out to be our economical gem and have a pure fab season and perhaps beyond at HTAFC ! 👍
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jul 27, 2023 14:07:42 GMT 1
My concern is that he has had a serious knee injury,and as a loan player,are we just there to get him fit,and then he goes back to Stoke.But if he is fit enough to start playing,with Turton out beggars can,t be choosers My concern is that we've used a valuable loan slot for him. |
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Post by drewden on Jul 27, 2023 14:09:31 GMT 1
I've got faith that Neil knows what he's doing. Same here, have faith everyone. |
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Post by crux on Jul 27, 2023 14:10:55 GMT 1
My concern is that he has had a serious knee injury,and as a loan player,are we just there to get him fit,and then he goes back to Stoke.But if he is fit enough to start playing,with Turton out beggars can,t be choosers My concern is that we've used a valuable loan slot for him. We can have 5 loan slots, or only 5 in the match day squad - unless this has increased with more substitutes. I can't see us getting to this many any time soon and even if we did we could convert this to a permanent deal as he's in his last year at Stoke. |
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Post by mosher on Jul 27, 2023 14:18:29 GMT 1
My concern is that we've used a valuable loan slot for him. We can have 5 loan slots, or only 5 in the match day squad - unless this has increased with more substitutes. I can't see us getting to this many any time soon and even if we did we could convert this to a permanent deal as he's in his last year at Stoke. I'm sure that's the rule, not 5 loanees overall. I'm sure you can have as many as you want but only 5 in the matchday squad? |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jul 27, 2023 14:19:18 GMT 1
Does fit the bill of a Warnock signing in the sense that he's under performed and has something to prove.
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Post by crux on Jul 27, 2023 14:21:31 GMT 1
Does fit the bill of a Warnock signing in the sense that he's under performed and has something to prove. Plus, he's got a proper long throw rather than the 'Holmes throw' we used to have. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2023 14:24:32 GMT 1
Yeah, I'll admit there weren't any saying he was the reincarnation of Roberto Carlos, but there were a fair few saying he was a good prospect when he came through but injuries have fucked him. And even more that said he was a decent squad player and backup, which is what we appear to have brought him in for. Chadders seems to think it's an okay signing and he's usually been fairly even-handed when dealing with us on this board. I'm not saying I think he's going to be Tom Cowan-esque (or even Chris Billy-esque ) but I'm willing to give him a shot. Especially with King Colin's history of getting the most out of average players. So we've signed a right back on loan from stoke, as back up, and he's not as good as Roberto Carlos?? I demand a refund on my season ticket!!! Worrying. Roberto Carlos must be in his 50s by now! |
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Post by waggers on Jul 27, 2023 14:26:24 GMT 1
Plenty quotes from MK Dons fans at the time happy to see him go, and comments on DATM thinking he was going to be tripe because of this. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2023 14:28:06 GMT 1
My concern is that he has had a serious knee injury,and as a loan player,are we just there to get him fit,and then he goes back to Stoke.But if he is fit enough to start playing,with Turton out beggars can,t be choosers My concern is that we've used a valuable loan slot for him. This is the head scratcher for me as well. The loan takes him to the end of his contract at Stoke. Why loan instead of us just (Vaclik-esque) taking over his contract to the end of the season? Who benefits from that arrangement? |
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Post by stable on Jul 27, 2023 14:30:27 GMT 1
The way I’m looking at it - who fills me with most confidence filling in until Turton is fit and/or we’re not playing Thomas as wing back in that game/Thomas is injured? - An academy prospect who has shown promise but also that he’s probably not ready for the championship just yet, or someone with premier league and championship experience?
The fact that he can play a number of positions also helps with bench options, as I can’t see us having a huge squad
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