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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 27, 2023 16:25:22 GMT 1
everybody, stoke lose a wage we get cheap cover he gets a chance to regain his reputation. as for a loan, he may not be good enough for what we are planning for 2024/25! Al of those benefits would come with us just taking over his contract on a 1 year permanent deal though. Only difference I can see is that it limits our loan options. Can you see another 5 loanees coming in? If stoke have subsidised his wages why would they if we signed him? |
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Post by Flowerdisco on Jul 27, 2023 16:42:50 GMT 1
Apparently we've been after him for a while. Bromby made a clerical error as he was wanting to re sign another ex terrier Rob Edwards.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 16:49:18 GMT 1
My concern is that he has had a serious knee injury,and as a loan player,are we just there to get him fit,and then he goes back to Stoke.But if he is fit enough to start playing,with Turton out beggars can,t be choosers My concern is that we've used a valuable loan slot for him. The plus for me this season is I don't think we need many loans. I get the feeling the new owner and management would rather work with our own players than someone elses. Edwards contract is up next summer so if he proves a good addition we could get him on a free. Unless he is really good then someone else will snaffle him but it has to be a reasonable punt. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 16:50:07 GMT 1
Anybody else think that this seasons championship is looker harder than it has been for many a year. If you simply look at the other 23 teams as 'names' perhaps yes, but is the actual strength of the squads / management of those clubs up to much ? I'm not so sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 17:01:18 GMT 1
Seems fairly unanimously in favour on the link I just posted. They've under-rated him but none have said he was shit. That's how I remember it with Nicholls. The vast majority of Stoke fans on that board are pleased he's going and amazed it's to a champ club. They must have shaved tens of thousands from the wage bill now not to mention sell ons and fees. Sign some quality please FFS. I'm amazed they know enough to post about him. He hasn't played a league game for Stoke since December 2019. That is over 3 and a half years ago. He was a lot younger and less experienced back then. This is new start for him in the UK. If Warnock thinks he can do a decent job then that is enough for me. |
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Post by jackandjillupthehill on Jul 27, 2023 17:18:34 GMT 1
so funny people are saying good signing,how you know like
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 27, 2023 17:39:59 GMT 1
He's only copy and pasting from the Stoke forum 😂😂😂 Ffs, you’re going to blow Prepares mind mentioning “copy and paste”. He’s only just finally mastered “quoting”  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
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Post by Flowerdisco on Jul 27, 2023 17:41:24 GMT 1
I give zero thought to what other fans say about players leaving. It’s a bit like people who leave reviews online, the majority who voice have beef. I'm the complete opposite, if there's a strong opinion a player is crap it's usually the case, works if they think he's good too. I don't remember any exceptions. Signing cast offs from our rivals basically, disappointing. The only consolation being he is just cover for Turton so no point breaking the bank. If he was one of a few more ambitious signings it probably wouldn't be so underwhelming. Zzzzzzzz I'd rather go with Warnocks knowledge and god knows how many years of football experience and getting the best out of players than fickle ex clubs "fans" opinions. Don't think NW would put up with signing players he didn't want |
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 27, 2023 17:42:00 GMT 1
31 now, no doubt we’d offer him 3 of our finest years on a contract Warnock is here for one season, most of our signings are going to be relatively short term as we will have a new coach within the next 9 months. And to point out , it’s a rumour, but he is a striker, tall and reasonably mobile , experienced and a typical Warnock style of player. Would he have been at Rotherham when Colin was 🤔 |
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Post by portugalterrier on Jul 27, 2023 17:45:53 GMT 1
Warnock is here for one season, most of our signings are going to be relatively short term as we will have a new coach within the next 9 months. And to point out , it’s a rumour, but he is a striker, tall and reasonably mobile , experienced and a typical Warnock style of player. Would he have been at Rotherham when Colin was 🤔 Possibly, Warnock and Jepson were very involved in selecting Edwards, it was their decision. |
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Post by marshterrier on Jul 27, 2023 17:55:31 GMT 1
Watched the interview and looks genuinely enthusiastic and excited to be joining Town.
Compare that to some of the big time charlies weve had who just come for money.
Time will tell, i hope the doom mongers will be proved wrong.
I have a good feeling about it as I trust Neil and Ronnie's judgement. UTT
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Post by Leporid on Jul 27, 2023 18:34:04 GMT 1
Apparently we've been after him for a while. Bromby made a clerical error as he was wanting to re sign another ex terrier Rob Edwards. There was a rumour it was to be Jimmy Edwards. There was a thread on Whack-O, the Leeds United flagellists' forum, about it. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2023 18:59:33 GMT 1
Al of those benefits would come with us just taking over his contract on a 1 year permanent deal though. Only difference I can see is that it limits our loan options. We will presumably have the option to send him back in January if he hasn't done well/Turton is back/we can get somebody better or any combination of the 3. That's a huge benefit to us Good point. Hadn't thought of a recall clause (in either direction). |
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Post by Orinoco on Jul 27, 2023 19:00:12 GMT 1
I'm neither creaming my pants nor vomiting in them. Mixed reviews for a position we needed = I'm keeping an open mind. Both ways. Exactly, give the lad chance to even kick or head a ball👍 |
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Post by morleyterrier on Jul 27, 2023 19:02:37 GMT 1
I'm the complete opposite, if there's a strong opinion a player is crap it's usually the case, works if they think he's good too. I don't remember any exceptions. Signing cast offs from our rivals basically, disappointing. The only consolation being he is just cover for Turton so no point breaking the bank. If he was one of a few more ambitious signings it probably wouldn't be so underwhelming. Zzzzzzzz I'd rather go with Warnocks knowledge and god knows how many years of football experience and getting the best out of players than fickle ex clubs "fans" opinions. Don't think NW would put up with signing players he didn't want Agreed. We need a great dressing room, some proper Team spirit and see where it can take us. Give me Players that want to be here and play here over some of the utter shower of shit that has sadly been allowed to ‘represent’ this great football club over the last 5 or 6 years. |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2023 19:02:48 GMT 1
Al of those benefits would come with us just taking over his contract on a 1 year permanent deal though. Only difference I can see is that it limits our loan options. Can you see another 5 loanees coming in? If stoke have subsidised his wages why would they if we signed him? I suspect we're unlikely to get more than 5 loanees tbf. Although Stoke paying a proportion of his wages seems equally reasonable regardless of whether he's on loan or permanent. They might have agreed to subsidize his wages to get a proportion of his wages off their outgoings, whether loan or permanent (as we reportedly have with Duane Holmes). |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2023 19:05:39 GMT 1
Watched the interview and looks genuinely enthusiastic and excited to be joining Town. Compare that to some of the big time charlies weve had who just come for money. Time will tell, i hope the doom mongers will be proved wrong. I have a good feeling about it as I trust Neil and Ronnie's judgement. UTT Some players have been better than others but I don't think we've had any big time Charlies since the summer we ditched Mbenza, Pritchard et al. |
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Post by rickrast on Jul 27, 2023 19:06:05 GMT 1
I gather we beat Al-Hilal to this signing.....cool.
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 27, 2023 19:33:16 GMT 1
Does fit the bill of a Warnock signing in the sense that he's under performed and has something to prove. Plus, he's got a proper long throw rather than the 'Holmes throw' we used to have. Are you saying he has a huge Wang? |
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Post by Tiro on Jul 27, 2023 19:44:26 GMT 1
I’ll wait to reserve my judgement given I’d never heard of him until today, but, on paper, I don’t see how he adds the quality that fits our narrative.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jul 27, 2023 19:47:41 GMT 1
Another defender but good luck Tom for the season.
This striker and attacking mid-fielder better be worth waiting for
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2023 19:54:53 GMT 1
Al of those benefits would come with us just taking over his contract on a 1 year permanent deal though. Only difference I can see is that it limits our loan options. We will presumably have the option to send him back in January if he hasn't done well/Turton is back/ we can get somebody better or any combination of the 3. That's a huge benefit to us Why are you writing the lad off before he has kicked a ball for us? Nobody was saying that about the two premier league signings we got, and did send back, last season. Welcome to Town Tom. Looking forward to watching you play. |
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Post by crux on Jul 27, 2023 19:56:25 GMT 1
Plus, he's got a proper long throw rather than the 'Holmes throw' we used to have. Are you saying he has a huge Wang? You may well say that, I couldn't possibly comment 😉 |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jul 27, 2023 19:56:44 GMT 1
Wagner built a unit.
Cowley signed great individuals.
Carlos built a unit.
Warnock will build a unit.
The Championship is escaped as much on team work, work ethic and discipline as it is via talent and wage bills.
Pearson or Kongolo?
Rudoni or Pritchard?
Koroma or Mbenza?
It’s like folk have forgotten every lesson we learned in the past 6 years 🤷♂️
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 27, 2023 19:58:01 GMT 1
Good luck to the lad, in all honesty I've never heard of him but he fills a position we very much need cover for.
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Post by rockwall on Jul 27, 2023 19:59:17 GMT 1
Stable signing. Perfect for what we need right now.
Those moaning about it. Jog on and support someone else.
It has been made perfectly clear what we are dealing with in regards to recruitment, so just face the facts.
I really do not know what kind of signings you are expecting.
We have brought 2 people in that improve the squad. Experience alone.
So many teams get players from clubs in the same division for one reason or another.
Look at Hungbo for example.
Sorba to Blackburn.
Djed Spence the season at Forest.
Another clubs cast offs could be another's gain.
Imagine Portsmouth fans reading about Koroma, he is a changed pkayer now.
Guaranteed we finish above some of the teams apparently 'splashing' the cash.
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Post by goodbet on Jul 27, 2023 20:14:23 GMT 1
Stable signing. Perfect for what we need right now. Those moaning about it. Jog on and support someone else. It has been made perfectly clear what we are dealing with in regards to recruitment, so just face the facts. I really do not know what kind of signings you are expecting. We have brought 2 people in that improve the squad. Experience alone. So many teams get players from clubs in the same division for one reason or another. Look at Hungbo for example. Sorba to Blackburn. Djed Spence the season at Forest. Another clubs cast offs could be another's gain.Imagine Portsmouth fans reading about Koroma, he is a changed pkayer now. Guaranteed we finish above some of the teams apparently 'splashing' the cash. Another clubs cast offs could well be another ones gain, unfortunately we have tried to do this several times in the past and ended up with you guessed it, cast offs. We have tried buying injured players and they guess what they did not get much game time. Let's just hope we have broken our trend. |
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Post by rockwall on Jul 27, 2023 20:19:13 GMT 1
Stable signing. Perfect for what we need right now. Those moaning about it. Jog on and support someone else. It has been made perfectly clear what we are dealing with in regards to recruitment, so just face the facts. I really do not know what kind of signings you are expecting. We have brought 2 people in that improve the squad. Experience alone. So many teams get players from clubs in the same division for one reason or another. Look at Hungbo for example. Sorba to Blackburn. Djed Spence the season at Forest. Another clubs cast offs could be another's gain.Imagine Portsmouth fans reading about Koroma, he is a changed pkayer now. Guaranteed we finish above some of the teams apparently 'splashing' the cash. Another clubs cast offs could well be another ones gain, unfortunately we have tried to do this several times in the past and ended up with you guessed it, cast offs. We have tried buying injured players and they guess what they did not get much game time. Let's just hope we have broken our trend. We have also several times not ended up like that either. Honestly, explain, what are you expecting with what we have been told openly by the club? |
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Post by Tinpot on Jul 27, 2023 20:26:48 GMT 1
I give zero thought to what other fans say about players leaving. It’s a bit like people who leave reviews online, the majority who voice have beef. I'm the complete opposite, if there's a strong opinion a player is crap it's usually the case, works if they think he's good too. I don't remember any exceptions. Signing cast offs from our rivals basically, disappointing. The only consolation being he is just cover for Turton so no point breaking the bank. If he was one of a few more ambitious signings it probably wouldn't be so underwhelming. Zzzzzzzz Ask Forest fans (if you can bear to speak to the bloody reprobates) what they thought of Joe Lolley and Hef. Further back, my cousin is an Oldham fan. His opinions of Phil Starbuck and David Beresford don't match mine! Lossl was absolute dogshit the season before he came here. Nakhi Wells was utterly reliant on playing off a big man (hence my former moniker on here - "Useless Without Hanson"). Darren Bullock was shit anywhere other than here. Scott Arfield at Burnley. Alex Pritchard was highly rated before coming here. |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 27, 2023 20:28:07 GMT 1
One, I don't swallow everything the club tells me.
Two, I don't think that we can put all of our hope on Neil to build them a team and turn every cast off into a diamond and lift the whole squad into keeping us up for the full season.
I don't think that it is too much to ask to give him a little help in the way of a few quality transfers.
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