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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jul 31, 2023 8:02:59 GMT 1
I thought Tom Edwards had a decent game yesterday for his debut but the game turned out to be a bit of a non-event with the sending-off. The lad I was impressed with for them yesterday was the mid-fielder Sahraoui I think it was, very technically gifted and comfortable on the ball. He's just the sort of playmaker Town needs Mr. Warnock
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Post by Porrohman on Jul 31, 2023 8:50:47 GMT 1
I thought Tom Edwards had a decent game yesterday for his debut but the game turned out to be a bit of a non-event with the sending-off. The lad I was impressed with for them yesterday was the mid-fielder Sahraoui I think it was, very technically gifted and comfortable on the ball. He's just the sort of playmaker Town needs Mr. Warnock He might not fancy coming in to training to get 2 footed by Pearson again š
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Jul 31, 2023 11:51:18 GMT 1
I thought Tom Edwards had a decent game yesterday for his debut but the game turned out to be a bit of a non-event with the sending-off. The lad I was impressed with for them yesterday was the mid-fielder Sahraoui I think he was, very technically gifted and comfortable on the ball. He's just the sort of playmaker Town needs Mr. Warnock He might not fancy coming into training to get 2 footed by Pearson again š Pearson was very lucky to not get sent off for that challenge, league game he would have been off. Pity about the sending off for them, would have liked Town to have had a more sterner test before the Plymouth game.
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Post by ACW on Jul 31, 2023 18:06:59 GMT 1
No, you are wrong. I watched him play when he first signed with my own eyes. I was at the matches. He was abysmal. Fans changed their opinions of him when he started to improve, and eventually became one of our most reliable and consistent performers. But if you want to re-write history, you crack on. Just a silly use of the word 'abysmal' isnt it because he was nothing like that. Total over-exaggeration that makes the point youre making nonsense. he struggled initially with the step up and was perhaps 'poor' until he got up to speed. Then he was surprisingly good. I stand by my original point. I don't think it was silly or nonsense. I have explained clearly why I thought Turton's early performances were "abysmal". I have given Turton plenty of credit for his improvement at Town in this and other threads. I have given what I consider an honest and balanced assessment. We'll agree to disagree. As I often do with you.
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Post by htafcdreams on Jul 31, 2023 22:46:26 GMT 1
Heard on the HTTC pod he likes a beer ?
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Post by rockwall on Aug 1, 2023 8:35:14 GMT 1
Heard on the HTTC pod he likes a beer ? It was rumoured when he came through at Stoke he was seen out most Saturday nights.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Apr 8, 2024 6:18:31 GMT 1
You can understand our manager being a bit non-plussed by the booing of Edwards - his stats under AB ...
- Has come on as sub in 4 games - Played 50 minutes in total - No goals conceded - Town have scored 3 - 2 wins from losing/drawing positions (AB's only 2 wins!) - An assist for one of those wins
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Post by conman on Apr 8, 2024 7:02:45 GMT 1
Heard on the HTTC pod he likes a beer ? It was rumoured when he came through at Stoke he was seen out most Saturday nights. So was Frankie Worthington and the rest of that late 60s 2nd division team . Probably one or two made it out Friday night too š
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Post by softboy on Apr 8, 2024 10:50:59 GMT 1
You can understand our manager being a bit non-plussed by the booing of Edwards - his stats under AB ... - Has come on as sub in 4 games - Played 50 minutes in total - No goals conceded - Town have scored 3 - 2 wins from losing/drawing positions (AB's only 2 wins!) - An assist for one of those wins I think you are letting facts get in the way of opinions. You forget to add that he did a solid job when he came on Saturday and allowed Headley the space to get forward for the corner that won it. Letās hope he never scores as the boos will reach fever pitch.
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Post by irverino on Apr 8, 2024 11:04:36 GMT 1
You can understand our manager being a bit non-plussed by the booing of Edwards - his stats under AB ... - Has come on as sub in 4 games - Played 50 minutes in total - No goals conceded - Town have scored 3 - 2 wins from losing/drawing positions (AB's only 2 wins!) - An assist for one of those wins I think you are letting facts get in the way of opinions. You forget to add that he did a solid job when he came on Saturday and allowed Headley the space to get forward for the corner that won it. Letās hope he never scores as the boos will reach fever pitch. I sit in the KB stand & initially presumed the boos/groans were because Pat Jones was not the final sub that I think most wanted or expected.......Comments around me were directed mainly at AB, rather than TE.
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Post by duncfost01 on Apr 8, 2024 11:05:30 GMT 1
I think the boos are as much aimed at Cartwright as they were Edwards.
He was embarrassing at Leeds Away.
Cartwright is on his 4th manager in less than a year.
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Post by dugnet on Apr 8, 2024 11:09:29 GMT 1
I don't particularly like digging individual players out but I would make this observation; If Tom Edwards is the answer I don't think we have really understood the question.
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Post by boooothy on Apr 8, 2024 11:09:57 GMT 1
Hurry back Ollie Turton
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Apr 8, 2024 11:30:39 GMT 1
I think the boos are as much aimed at Cartwright as they were Edwards. He was embarrassing at Leeds Away. Cartwright is on his 4th manager in less than a year. I know itās all about levels and this is a shit comparison by me. I remember Lowe got absolutely rinsed by Antonio at West Ham. I mean really rinsed, looked like a pub player.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 8, 2024 11:33:27 GMT 1
Between us all there are hundreds of things we are not happy with but surely when we are in the middle of a fight to avoid dropping into the football backwater of League 1,there is currently only one thing that matters. Getting behind the team.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 8, 2024 11:37:40 GMT 1
Its irrelevant if hes not very good ( he isnt but nowhere near as poor as some make out ) .. if hes wearing a town shirt out on that pitch then booing him is about as dateless as it gets. Any Town 'fan' doing that is a damned sight more embarrassing than Edwards performance was at Leeds.
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 8, 2024 11:44:59 GMT 1
I think the boos are as much aimed at Cartwright as they were Edwards. He was embarrassing at Leeds Away. Cartwright is on his 4th manager in less than a year. I think you're transferring your own thoughts. Most fans in the ground won't have a clue or indeed a care what Cartwright is responsible for, if they even know who he is.
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Post by drumriggend on Apr 8, 2024 12:30:15 GMT 1
I donāt boo my own players..
Heās done ok as a sub when needed recently..
However how does a professional footballer in his 20s have a beer belly..
I could see his paunch from the top tier of the family stand..
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Post by ldotm on Apr 8, 2024 12:35:57 GMT 1
Between us all there are hundreds of things we are not happy with but surely when we are in the middle of a fight to avoid dropping into the football backwater of League 1,there is currently only one thing that matters. Getting behind the team. Blows my mind that fans think it does anything else than add pressure. Oh but āthey are paid well enough to deal with the pressureā is what often then gets said, but itās not the point. We want to help build confidence as a fan, not make them feel on edge. Completely understand booāing a player for being half arsed, thatās not acceptable but for being in bad form/not good enough isnāt one.
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Post by Detective Boyle on Apr 8, 2024 12:38:04 GMT 1
His cameo on Saturday was one of the worst Iād ever seen, genuinely, lost the ball twice in the middle of the pitch attempting a lofted pass which he couldnāt get above waste height. Letās not sugar coat it. The boos though do absolutely nothing to help us, itās just not what you need.
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Apr 8, 2024 13:11:08 GMT 1
Me and my mate were having a right moan on Saturday during the match. Moaning at Millwallās tactics; moaning about our failure to put the ball in the net; moaning at various attempts by players to pass the ball to team members; moaning at the manager for not making changes although he did eventually and they were by and large successful although I still donāt know why Koroma is the fall guy of so many managers. To me he is one of the few who can actually score. Anyway it came as a shock when the boos started when Edwards came on. Moaning amongst friends is one thing but booing a Town player, no matter how poor is not helpful.
PS no complaints this week on the ref. He was far better than some we have had in recent weeks. If we had him against Rotherham we might have won.
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Post by Mastercracker on Apr 8, 2024 13:28:10 GMT 1
I still couldn't be arsed to do it but I think it's only acceptable to boo players if they are blatantly taking the piss. Think Kongolo after we got relegated.
I don't think Edwards is doing that, he's just crap. Middling L1 at absolute best.
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Post by townarentbest on Apr 8, 2024 14:19:56 GMT 1
His cameo on Saturday was one of the worst Iād ever seen, genuinely, lost the ball twice in the middle of the pitch attempting a lofted pass which he couldnāt get above waste height. Letās not sugar coat it. The boos though do absolutely nothing to help us, itās just not what you need. And he knew it - he immediately apologised to his team mates both times...and got on with getting involved. I think we underestimate the impact the blustery wind had - especially as a player coming into a game where everyone else has got used to the conditions. Has a keeper repeatedly booted the ball into touch as many times as the Millwall keeper did - and I've no real idea what we were doing in the last minute hoofing it into the south end of the Kilner Bank, it almost seemed like some kind of bizarre tactical choice but I'm sure it was just the wind?! All the subs seemed to struggle with actually finding a Town player...except when Wiles had the vision and ability to complete this Mooy-esque pass...maybe there's hope for him to contribute to the future yet š¤
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Post by bells ringing :) on Apr 8, 2024 14:34:19 GMT 1
I respect AB for defending his players, it shows a possible connection building which is good to see. The players would rather be defended by their bosss, than being left out to dry. This may help in the full team effort we need to stay up.
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Post by royrace on Apr 8, 2024 15:00:00 GMT 1
I think the boos are as much aimed at Cartwright as they were Edwards. He was embarrassing at Leeds Away. Cartwright is on his 4th manager in less than a year. I think you're transferring your own thoughts. Most fans in the ground won't have a clue or indeed a care what Cartwright is responsible for, if they even know who he is. I don't think you'd find many who don't know who the DoF is?! Edwards is unfortunately the fall guy since he just looked such a poor signing from one of MCs old clubs. Other fans saying he struggled in L1 and Stoke not wanting him. Seemed he'd be substandard and that seems to be the case. Factor in the Leeds game and he looks overweight and unfit. Booing him is bang out of order however I think a lot of fans thought they'd just witnessed town relegated and hope had turned to anger like it does. I'm not excusing it at all, I let out a quiet groan myself mainly because I thought Jones would be coming on!
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Post by duncfost01 on Apr 8, 2024 15:12:03 GMT 1
I think you're transferring your own thoughts. Most fans in the ground won't have a clue or indeed a care what Cartwright is responsible for, if they even know who he is. I don't think you'd find many who don't know who the DoF is?! Edwards is unfortunately the fall guy since he just looked such a poor signing from one of MCs old clubs. Other fans saying he struggled in L1 and Stoke not wanting him. Seemed he'd be substandard and that seems to be the case. Factor in the Leeds game and he looks overweight and unfit. Booing him is bang out of order however I think a lot of fans thought they'd just witnessed town relegated and hope had turned to anger like it does. I'm not excusing it at all, I let out a quiet groan myself mainly because I thought Jones would be coming on! Agree.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Apr 8, 2024 16:56:22 GMT 1
I think you're transferring your own thoughts. Most fans in the ground won't have a clue or indeed a care what Cartwright is responsible for, if they even know who he is. I don't think you'd find many who don't know who the DoF is?! Edwards is unfortunately the fall guy since he just looked such a poor signing from one of MCs old clubs. Other fans saying he struggled in L1 and Stoke not wanting him. Seemed he'd be substandard and that seems to be the case. Factor in the Leeds game and he looks overweight and unfit. Booing him is bang out of order however I think a lot of fans thought they'd just witnessed town relegated and hope had turned to anger like it does. I'm not excusing it at all, I let out a quiet groan myself mainly because I thought Jones would be coming on! Iāve been watching Town for longer than I care to remember and if Cartwright was stood right in front of me Iād have no idea who he is. The players, the manager, the owner. Thatās all I want to know. I know itās a totally selfish outlook and I know Iām in a minority of one.
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Post by sabailand on Apr 8, 2024 17:46:51 GMT 1
Someone left a good comment the other day basically saying that apart from being run ragged by Summerville v Leeds whats he done thats particlarly bad, ok he was out of condition and all the rest, hes come on as sub a few times and had an impact once (assist v watford), hes not the devil incarnate and anyone who boos their own players should just go jump in the sewerage works with all the rest of the shit.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 8, 2024 18:01:30 GMT 1
Someone left a good comment the other day basically saying that apart from being run ragged by Sunnerville v Leeds whats he done thats particlarly bad, ok he was out of condition and all the rest, hes come on as sub a few times and had an impact once (assist v watford), hes not the devil incarnate and anyone who boos their own players should just go jump in the sewerage works with all the rest of the shit.Totally agree, look at a lot of the Leeds crowd at the end of last season, disgraceful how they treated their players... no doubt none of the booers then are still going though
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 8, 2024 18:01:45 GMT 1
Someone left a good comment the other day basically saying that apart from being run ragged by Sunnerville v Leeds whats he done thats particlarly bad, ok he was out of condition and all the rest, hes come on as sub a few times and had an impact once (assist v watford), hes not the devil incarnate and anyone who boos their own players should just go jump in the sewerage works with all the rest of the shit. Playing like he did against Leeds, claiming a concussion so he could come off at half time and then going out on the piss that evening means I'll never have much time for him
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