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Post by Wingman on Jun 1, 2024 16:55:13 GMT 1
Great notes htafcokay. However, if Warnock and Jeppo are contacting former players to comment on a current manager, as much as I love them, that’s overstepping the mark. Even if they didn’t like the methods they should respect the fact there is someone in a role working. I doubt they would have appreciated ex-managers at clubs contacting players they were working at. From what they said, it was players that were contacting Warnock and Jepson about the manager, not the other way around. Fair enough, I stand corrected. 👍🏼 I agree with a few others on this topics, as in Warnock was superb for us twice but we need to move on now and try rebuild after the storm. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 1, 2024 16:57:16 GMT 1
From what they said, it was players that were contacting Warnock and Jepson about the manager, not the other way around. Fair enough, I stand corrected. 👍🏼 I agree with a few others on this topics, as in Warnock was superb for us twice but we need to move on now and try rebuild after the storm. Agreed. But Warnock hasn't put his side of the story across until yesterday, so naturally there's been speculation up until now. Now he has responded hopefully it will be put to bed. |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 1, 2024 17:01:20 GMT 1
So it's exactly what a lot of us thought it were...kev spitting his dummy out and getting us relegated in the process
He,s a lot of making up to do
No promotion this next season and the knifes will be out!!!
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Post by crux on Jun 1, 2024 17:05:56 GMT 1
I wonder who filled AB in on the poor pre season etc etc.. Someone was clearly giving him the info and wanting it to point at Warnock, not Moore or possibly themselves ? That was going to be my point. AB didn't call out Warnock at all, or not directly at least. He had already made comments about the overall fitness of the players and yes I know every incoming manager does that, but we all know they weren't fit enough. AB then said that he'd been told by the/some/a player(s) (I can't remember his exact wording), that pre-season had involved a lot of golf and going to the pub. PS: There was never any point practicing set pieces at the end of the season anyway. From about October Sorba over or under hit almost every one of them anyway! |
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Post by impact on Jun 1, 2024 17:19:53 GMT 1
Or they are inexperienced players short of confidence for 2 years apart from 3 months where Warnock took them under his wing. You are assuming they're just ringing him up to complain about the manager. If they speak to him and he boosts their confidence, gives them some advice and gets them smiling, how is that a bad thing? Rudoni is 22 years old in his 2nd championship season FFS. There is not a chance in hell Warnock would have treated him like Andre did, and that's why Rudoni will look to Warnock for advice and guidance. Andre's treatment of him was disgraceful. If the last sentence relates to the early substitution at Ipswich, then I think you're wrong. Rudoni deserved that, his 'performance' that day was a disgrace. A 22 year old being publically embarrassed in front of millions. He's still starting out in football. That was well out of order and will take a lot of getting over. |
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Post by impact on Jun 1, 2024 17:23:48 GMT 1
Or they are inexperienced players short of confidence for 2 years apart from 3 months where Warnock took them under his wing. You are assuming they're just ringing him up to complain about the manager. If they speak to him and he boosts their confidence, gives them some advice and gets them smiling, how is that a bad thing? Rudoni is 22 years old in his 2nd championship season FFS. There is not a chance in hell Warnock would have treated him like Andre did, and that's why Rudoni will look to Warnock for advice and guidance. Andre's treatment of him was disgraceful. Jack Rudonis performance at Ipswich was a disgrace, AB did what should have been done. Please stop making excuses for these underperforming fannys. Also, the poster who did the write up said “He then added, “the lads kept ringing us. They said towards the end of the season, they didn’t do any set-pieces in training and then he comes out with all this about pubs and golf. The guy hasn’t a clue. It’s a good job he’s gone as he’d be getting them relegated even further, because he’d lost the dressing room” So the players told him they didn’t do set pieces and AB had lost the dressing room - that isn’t advice, that’s called being a bitch. And once again, you're assuming that's all that was talked about. If someone at work comes up to me and says they're down, under pressure, confused etc the first thing I do is ask them to explain what's going on. Then I'll see what I can do to help after letting them unload. Unlike Warnock I wouldn't have made that public. Rudoni is 22 years old. He didn't play well in a nothing game. Take him off at half time, don't embarrass a young lad in front of millions. |
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Post by sabailand on Jun 1, 2024 17:24:42 GMT 1
If the last sentence relates to the early substitution at Ipswich, then I think you're wrong. Rudoni deserved that, his 'performance' that day was a disgrace. A 22 year old being publically embarrassed in front of millions. He's still starting out in football. That was well out of order and will take a lot of getting over. Aaw, hes an adult earning we assume good money, he'll get over it. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jun 1, 2024 17:28:34 GMT 1
I think Neil Warnock is self serving and I 100% believe that whatever he said does not tell the whole story. He has openly discussed things there that didn't need to be discussed, and against a club he claims to have great affection for. We have just been relegated and the supporters and club need to be united, what he has said is only going to create resentment. He's gone and needs to be forgotten. do you not agree that after being publicly slaughtered by Brieten he was always going to publicly defend himself you may choose to forget the promotion the Wembley auto glass final and the championship survival last year many of us will choose to remember those achievements I'm not saying forget the great things he has done for the club, I'm saying forget the fact he has now left and we need to move on. Maybe it wasn't made clear. NW is a legend in my eyes for the things he has done for this club. I just feel the ghosts of last season need to be laid to rest. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 1, 2024 17:30:20 GMT 1
Jack Rudonis performance at Ipswich was a disgrace, AB did what should have been done. Please stop making excuses for these underperforming fannys. Also, the poster who did the write up said “He then added, “the lads kept ringing us. They said towards the end of the season, they didn’t do any set-pieces in training and then he comes out with all this about pubs and golf. The guy hasn’t a clue. It’s a good job he’s gone as he’d be getting them relegated even further, because he’d lost the dressing room” So the players told him they didn’t do set pieces and AB had lost the dressing room - that isn’t advice, that’s called being a bitch. And once again, you're assuming that's all that was talked about. If someone at work comes up to me and says they're down, under pressure, confused etc the first thing I do is ask them to explain what's going on. Then I'll see what I can do to help after letting them unload. Unlike Warnock I wouldn't have made that public. Rudoni is 22 years old. He didn't play well gave up in a nothing game. Take him off at half time, don't embarrass a young lad in front of millions. I've fixed that for you. |
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Post by terriers321 on Jun 1, 2024 17:41:20 GMT 1
Point one. Anybody whos paying to go to an evening with Neil Warnock and Ronnie Jepson needs to get a life.
Point two. Who gives a shit what they are saying. He was here, hes gone and they aint coming back. Move on. The club needs a clean slate. Not fans droning on about the past and keeping a cloud of negativity over it.
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Post by mrg on Jun 1, 2024 17:44:00 GMT 1
So now we know 100% without question Cartwright is the problem, which most people will have been fairly sure about already. We were warned about him by our friend from Stoke chadders.
What concerns me most moving forwards is will duff have enough control to assert his authority on the playing squad? I hope he can be ballsy and stand up to this none sense by our DOF and CEO.
Kevin made a mistake. He's made a few and admitted it. The biggest one I forsee moving forwards is not having Directors who can create a high performance environment with the manager/Head Coach and/or someone without that ability sitting in the managers office.
There are plenty of options out there for good DOFs with a good book of upto date players. This game changes so quickly you have to run hard to keep up.
I just hope the club can Direct itself out of the self created pickle and learn to make better long term decisions for the club, like having some balls and standing upto a manager or Director rather than taking the cowards way out and going around them. That sort of environment will win nowhere.
Happy holidays:)
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Post by mrg on Jun 1, 2024 17:47:47 GMT 1
Point one. Anybody whos paying to go to an evening with Neil Warnock and Ronnie Jepson needs to get a life. Point two. Who gives a shit what they are saying. He was here, hes gone and they aint coming back. Move on. The club needs a clean slate. Not fans droning on about the past and keeping a cloud of negativity over it. Agree to an extent. The problem is the people making the decisions, if they are in it for themselves rather than the club or the team, which every big decision suggests they are (Im talking Directors here not chairman), then how do we expect 1 manager and coaching staff to pull everyone around with these 2 shit decision makers are Directing everyone? Its only going to create resentment, which is no recepie for success. Lets pray duff is strong enough to fix that obvious problem. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 1, 2024 17:53:27 GMT 1
Point one. Anybody whos paying to go to an evening with Neil Warnock and Ronnie Jepson needs to get a life. Point two. Who gives a shit what they are saying. He was here, hes gone and they aint coming back. Move on. The club needs a clean slate. Not fans droning on about the past and keeping a cloud of negativity over it. Some of us are interested in what former players and managers have to say about their time at Huddersfield Town. It might not be to everyone's taste, but if that's what people want to do, what does it matter to you? |
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Post by crux on Jun 1, 2024 17:55:09 GMT 1
If the last sentence relates to the early substitution at Ipswich, then I think you're wrong. Rudoni deserved that, his 'performance' that day was a disgrace. A 22 year old being publically embarrassed in front of millions. He's still starting out in football. That was well out of order and will take a lot of getting over. He was awful that day, it was such a half arsed performance we'd have been better without him on the pitch and playing with 10 men. I've just been back and had a look on our WhatsApp group to find the exact wording of what I'd typed BEFORE he'd made the balls up for the goal. "Rudoni appears to have fucked off to the beach today 🤬" |
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Post by irverino on Jun 1, 2024 18:05:57 GMT 1
I understand Neil getting annoyed by the comments made by AB but calling him a buffoon (one of the best paid since IM/AD) is stooping a bit to his level, the quotes about the Leicester game & his own record were all he needed to say really.....Lets see where AB ends up (if anywhere) after Summer with plenty Bundesliga jobs on offer, mind you Vinny snapped up the best one!
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Post by terriers321 on Jun 1, 2024 18:10:58 GMT 1
Point one. Anybody whos paying to go to an evening with Neil Warnock and Ronnie Jepson needs to get a life. Point two. Who gives a shit what they are saying. He was here, hes gone and they aint coming back. Move on. The club needs a clean slate. Not fans droning on about the past and keeping a cloud of negativity over it. Some of us are interested in what former players and managers have to say about their time at Huddersfield Town. It might not be to everyone's taste, but if that's what people want to do, what does it matter to you? What you choose to do in your social life is upto you. The reason it matters to me is because you are posting it on here with another stick to beat the club with. All Warnock cares about is people like you lining his pockets, not Huddersfield Town football club. We need a bit of Unity amongst the fanbase this season. |
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Post by Rigodon on Jun 1, 2024 18:16:04 GMT 1
So now we know 100% without question Cartwright is the problem, which most people will have been fairly sure about already. We were warned about him by our friend from Stoke chadders. What concerns me most moving forwards is will duff have enough control to assert his authority on the playing squad? I hope he can be ballsy and stand up to this none sense by our DOF and CEO. Kevin made a mistake. He's made a few and admitted it. The biggest one I forsee moving forwards is not having Directors who can create a high performance environment with the manager/Head Coach and/or someone without that ability sitting in the managers office. There are plenty of options out there for good DOFs with a good book of upto date players. This game changes so quickly you have to run hard to keep up. I just hope the club can Direct itself out of the self created pickle and learn to make better long term decisions for the club, like having some balls and standing upto a manager or Director rather than taking the cowards way out and going around them. That sort of environment will win nowhere. Happy holidays:) Why, cause the guy who couldn't even manage in Aberdeen said so?  Love Warnock for what he's done for Town, but part of his charm is the bravado and bullshit. He's called Colin for a reason. Are you with me? I... Certainly wouldn't buy a used car off him. All this love for Town didn't stop him fucking us off for Plymouth after promotion in the 90's. I was gutted then and never forgot it. IMO.. Whatever the tale was then, is the same as now, I expect. Ego(s) clash. No one can be 'certain' we were to stay up with him, IMO. For all his success, he has been sacked and not missed by half a dozen other teams that I can think of off the top of my head... Either way.. Past is the past. Some, usual suspects, thriving on the potential for negativity like flies around shit. When the rest of the board appears in general upbeat mode looking forward the new season! UTT etc |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 1, 2024 18:26:38 GMT 1
Some of us are interested in what former players and managers have to say about their time at Huddersfield Town. It might not be to everyone's taste, but if that's what people want to do, what does it matter to you? What you choose to do in your social life is upto you. The reason it matters to me is because you are posting it on here with another stick to beat the club with.All Warnock cares about is people like you lining his pockets, not Huddersfield Town football club. We need a bit of Unity amongst the fanbase this season. Completely wrong. I'm not beating the club at all. I was at the event, and have posted exactly what was said so it now puts the debate to bed as everyone has had their say, Nagle, Breitenreiter and Warnock. I'd have been just as interested if it was an Evening With Lou Macari [or any other random ex Town manager]. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 1, 2024 18:27:44 GMT 1
So now we know 100% without question Cartwright is the problem, which most people will have been fairly sure about already. We were warned about him by our friend from Stoke chadders. What concerns me most moving forwards is will duff have enough control to assert his authority on the playing squad? I hope he can be ballsy and stand up to this none sense by our DOF and CEO. Kevin made a mistake. He's made a few and admitted it. The biggest one I forsee moving forwards is not having Directors who can create a high performance environment with the manager/Head Coach and/or someone without that ability sitting in the managers office. There are plenty of options out there for good DOFs with a good book of upto date players. This game changes so quickly you have to run hard to keep up. I just hope the club can Direct itself out of the self created pickle and learn to make better long term decisions for the club, like having some balls and standing upto a manager or Director rather than taking the cowards way out and going around them. That sort of environment will win nowhere. Happy holidays:) Why, cause the guy who couldn't even manage in Aberdeen said so? Love Warnock for what he's done for Town, but part of his charm is the bravado and bullshit. He's called Colin for a reason. Are you with me? I... Certainly wouldn't buy a used car off him. All this love for Town didn't stop him fucking us off for Plymouth after promotion in the 90's. I was gutted then and never forgot it. IMO.. Whatever the tale was then, is the same as now, I expect. Ego(s) clash. No one can be 'certain' we were to stay up with him, IMO. For all his success, he has been sacked and not missed by half a dozen other teams that I can think of off the top of my head... Either way.. Past is the past. Some, usual suspects, thriving on the potential for negativity like flies around shit. When the rest of the board appears in general upbeat mode looking forward the new season! UTT etc I do hope you're not meaning me, because if you are you're very wide of the mark. |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 1, 2024 18:35:51 GMT 1
Point one. Anybody whos paying to go to an evening with Neil Warnock and Ronnie Jepson needs to get a life. Point two. Who gives a shit what they are saying. He was here, hes gone and they aint coming back. Move on. The club needs a clean slate. Not fans droning on about the past and keeping a cloud of negativity over it. I give Warnock and Jepson more credit than AB. we have all seen that AB failed worse than DM & Buzz so who gives anything he cares to say any credibility at all? He just showed us that he did not give a fig and then jumped ship. As to point two we can't give the club a clean slate when they have messed up in such a poor way and the half-wits that dropped us to League one are still making decisions about our future. |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 1, 2024 18:43:58 GMT 1
AB was the worst manager we have had for some time, at the end of his tenure calling the players out after he failed to bring anything to the party is just building himself an excuse. In a group of any workers you get the full range of different types of personality and if you are in chage you have to be able to deal with them. AB calling Warnock out for the pre season after DM had been in place for months after then is laughable. Warnock has his faults but taking anything as gospel from AB is just showing your own bias. Oh, the irony. Ben, like most of us has actually watched the players this season. No bias whatsoever. He may have watched, but did he watch last season? DM and even worse AB, completely useless. So you rate AB's history higher than his actual performance at town and more than Warnock's efforts, if so shame on you. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 1, 2024 18:47:14 GMT 1
Oh, the irony. Ben, like most of us has actually watched the players this season. No bias whatsoever. He may have watched, but did he watch last season? DM and even worse AB, completely useless. So you rate AB's history higher than his actual performance at town and more than Warnock's efforts, if so shame on you. I can't win here, can I? According to some, I'm using this as an opportunity to slag the club off and I'm up Warnock's arse. According to others, I'm taking Breitenreiter's side over Warnock. In reality, I side with Warnock on some things and Breitenreiter on other things. I'm convinced that you don't actually read what anyone has said, you're just so blinded by your dislike of Breitenreiter that you just post about it in every post and don't even bother reading the posts you're replying to. |
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Post by londoncowling on Jun 1, 2024 18:56:28 GMT 1
do you not agree that after being publicly slaughtered by Brieten he was always going to publicly defend himself you may choose to forget the promotion the Wembley auto glass final and the championship survival last year many of us will choose to remember those achievements I'm not saying forget the great things he has done for the club, I'm saying forget the fact he has now left and we need to move on. Maybe it wasn't made clear. NW is a legend in my eyes for the things he has done for this club. I just feel the ghosts of last season need to be laid to rest. you’d expect him to rigorously defend himself and his methods of management Breighten should maybe have thought again before he opened his mouth in public so unprofessional and he’s now known in these parts as buffoon |
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Post by ben1987 on Jun 1, 2024 19:06:02 GMT 1
Jack Rudonis performance at Ipswich was a disgrace, AB did what should have been done. Please stop making excuses for these underperforming fannys. Also, the poster who did the write up said “He then added, “the lads kept ringing us. They said towards the end of the season, they didn’t do any set-pieces in training and then he comes out with all this about pubs and golf. The guy hasn’t a clue. It’s a good job he’s gone as he’d be getting them relegated even further, because he’d lost the dressing room” So the players told him they didn’t do set pieces and AB had lost the dressing room - that isn’t advice, that’s called being a bitch. And once again, you're assuming that's all that was talked about. If someone at work comes up to me and says they're down, under pressure, confused etc the first thing I do is ask them to explain what's going on. Then I'll see what I can do to help after letting them unload. Unlike Warnock I wouldn't have made that public. Rudoni is 22 years old. He didn't play well in a nothing game. Take him off at half time, don't embarrass a young lad in front of millions. I cba arguing this. I think they’re pathetic little bitches who need to man the fuck up and own their responsibilities. You think it’s AB’s fault. Let’s just agree to disagree. |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 1, 2024 19:17:52 GMT 1
He may have watched, but did he watch last season? DM and even worse AB, completely useless. So you rate AB's history higher than his actual performance at town and more than Warnock's efforts, if so shame on you. I can't win here, can I? According to some, I'm using this as an opportunity to slag the club off and I'm up Warnock's arse. According to others, I'm taking Breitenreiter's side over Warnock. In reality, I side with Warnock on some things and Breitenreiter on other things. I'm convinced that you don't actually read what anyone has said, you're just so blinded by your dislike of Breitenreiter that you just post about it in every post and don't even bother reading the posts you're replying to. I just don't see how anybody can take anything AB says as serious. He has been an abject failure and looked around for something to blame and we got a dig at Wornocks pre season, but no mention of DM much longer role. We also got a dig at the players. I can see that in any bunch of players there will be some that are more difficult than others, but to try and walk away pointing the finger after the results he gave us is a tall order. AB was worse than Buzz and DM he was just an out and out failure and should not be give any credence at all. |
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Post by mrg on Jun 1, 2024 19:18:11 GMT 1
So now we know 100% without question Cartwright is the problem, which most people will have been fairly sure about already. We were warned about him by our friend from Stoke chadders. What concerns me most moving forwards is will duff have enough control to assert his authority on the playing squad? I hope he can be ballsy and stand up to this none sense by our DOF and CEO. Kevin made a mistake. He's made a few and admitted it. The biggest one I forsee moving forwards is not having Directors who can create a high performance environment with the manager/Head Coach and/or someone without that ability sitting in the managers office. There are plenty of options out there for good DOFs with a good book of upto date players. This game changes so quickly you have to run hard to keep up. I just hope the club can Direct itself out of the self created pickle and learn to make better long term decisions for the club, like having some balls and standing upto a manager or Director rather than taking the cowards way out and going around them. That sort of environment will win nowhere. Happy holidays:) Why, cause the guy who couldn't even manage in Aberdeen said so? Love Warnock for what he's done for Town, but part of his charm is the bravado and bullshit. He's called Colin for a reason. Are you with me? I... Certainly wouldn't buy a used car off him. All this love for Town didn't stop him fucking us off for Plymouth after promotion in the 90's. I was gutted then and never forgot it. IMO.. Whatever the tale was then, is the same as now, I expect. Ego(s) clash. No one can be 'certain' we were to stay up with him, IMO. For all his success, he has been sacked and not missed by half a dozen other teams that I can think of off the top of my head... Either way.. Past is the past. Some, usual suspects, thriving on the potential for negativity like flies around shit. When the rest of the board appears in general upbeat mode looking forward the new season! UTT etc I agree to an extent, certainly around leaving in the 90s etc. And yes we need to move on. My main point is that with the Directors being the same ones who made the decisions last year, how do we ensure duff has the ability to create the high performance environmental he wants. For exibit a see the tripe coming out of Cartwrights mouth at the prezzer. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 1, 2024 19:21:47 GMT 1
I can't win here, can I? According to some, I'm using this as an opportunity to slag the club off and I'm up Warnock's arse. According to others, I'm taking Breitenreiter's side over Warnock. In reality, I side with Warnock on some things and Breitenreiter on other things. I'm convinced that you don't actually read what anyone has said, you're just so blinded by your dislike of Breitenreiter that you just post about it in every post and don't even bother reading the posts you're replying to.
He has been an abject failure and looked around for something to blame and we got a dig at Wornocks pre season, but no mention of DM much longer role. We also got a dig at the players. I can see that in any bunch of players there will be some that are more difficult than others, but to try and walk away pointing the finger after the results he gave us is a tall order. AB was worse than Buzz and DM he was just an out and out failure and should not be give any credence at all. I watched the players last season. He was absolutely correct that some players weren't interested. He was only confirming what I'd been watching with my own eyes. |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 1, 2024 19:22:18 GMT 1
And once again, you're assuming that's all that was talked about. If someone at work comes up to me and says they're down, under pressure, confused etc the first thing I do is ask them to explain what's going on. Then I'll see what I can do to help after letting them unload. Unlike Warnock I wouldn't have made that public. Rudoni is 22 years old. He didn't play well in a nothing game. Take him off at half time, don't embarrass a young lad in front of millions. I cba arguing this. I think they’re pathetic little bitches who need to man the fuck up and own their responsibilities. You think it’s AB’s fault. Let’s just agree to disagree. Yes it was AB,s fault 2 wins in 13 Same players 7 in 15 under warnock I only defend people who have achieved!!! Remember that...for Town Not some prick in his 50,s wearing stone island thinking he's one of the lads!!..and got us Relegated and threw everyone under the bus!! |
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Post by rougeboy31 on Jun 1, 2024 19:22:37 GMT 1
And once again, you're assuming that's all that was talked about. If someone at work comes up to me and says they're down, under pressure, confused etc the first thing I do is ask them to explain what's going on. Then I'll see what I can do to help after letting them unload. Unlike Warnock I wouldn't have made that public. Rudoni is 22 years old. He didn't play well in a nothing game. Take him off at half time, don't embarrass a young lad in front of millions. I cba arguing this. I think they’re pathetic little bitches who need to man the fuck up and own their responsibilities. You think it’s AB’s fault. Let’s just agree to disagree. It’s because a lot of the fan base have for some reason chosen Rudoni as a fans favourite. There’s plenty of other players in the squad and in the past who are of similar age who would not be made excuses for. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jun 1, 2024 19:23:52 GMT 1
I cba arguing this. I think they’re pathetic little bitches who need to man the fuck up and own their responsibilities. You think it’s AB’s fault. Let’s just agree to disagree. It’s because a lot of the fan base have for some reason chosen Rudoni as a fans favourite. There’s plenty of other players in the squad and in the past who are of similar age who would not be made excuses for. Imagine if it had been Tom Edwards. |
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