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Post by htfcfcfc on Feb 3, 2024 11:30:50 GMT 1
Absolute garbage. For someone thrown into the spotlight with little notice it was a great start it's Worthy - I don't think anyone was expecting an interview with Dame Judi Bench! Errs and Erms are not the same thing as excessive waffling with deeply wrong malapropisms and a word salad of hackneyed buzz words. Worthy has conviction, Moore often sounded like he was still trying to wing his way through a job interview. Agree. It’s nice not having to switch off the TV when a Town manager speaks again. Moore and Fotheringham are the only 2 Town managers I just couldn’t watch |
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Post by willo on Feb 3, 2024 11:45:44 GMT 1
it's Worthy - I don't think anyone was expecting an interview with Dame Judi Bench! Errs and Erms are not the same thing as excessive waffling with deeply wrong malapropisms and a word salad of hackneyed buzz words. Worthy has conviction, Moore often sounded like he was still trying to wing his way through a job interview. Agree. It’s nice not having to switch off the TV when a Town manager speaks again. Moore and Fotheringham are the only 2 Town managers I just couldn’t watch Wadsworth used to drone on (if you go that far back). Proper boring. |
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Post by willo on Feb 3, 2024 11:47:55 GMT 1
Very eloquent interview Mr Worthington 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 We have low standards if we're thinking it was eloquent. It was enthusiastic yes, but eloquent not really. Not wanting to beat down Worthington he had more errs and erms than DM had in all of his pressers combined. Worthy’s press conference, whilst it won’t win any awards, was a thousand times better than anything Moore put out. The difference was you could listen to it whilst with Moore, you really couldn’t. |
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Post by drayltonboy (independent) on Feb 3, 2024 14:43:55 GMT 1
I wonder what he will be doing this aft? Bit early to start gardening. Does he send good luck messages to JW and his favourite players?
He’s still being paid, so, other than professional pride, no axe to grind.
Maybe pop down to spend weekend with NW, saying how they would have done differently to JW.
No point in waiting to see. We’ll never know.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2024 17:59:39 GMT 1
Hang your head in shame DM
A worse availability of players today, no Helik, No Kasumu, No Rudoni and again no strikers
Should've chopped the idiot long before the PLymouth, Blackburn and QPR games
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Post by waggers on Feb 3, 2024 18:02:22 GMT 1
Hang your head in shame DM A worse availability of players today, no Helik, No Kasumu, No Rudoni and again no strikers Should've chopped the idiot long before the PLymouth, Blackburn and QPR games 1st half was poor for both sides, instead of sitting on a 0-0 JW went for the win. Like you bloody should do. Well done to the players and manager. |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Feb 3, 2024 18:07:57 GMT 1
Hang your head in shame DM A worse availability of players today, no Helik, No Kasumu, No Rudoni and again no strikers Should've chopped the idiot long before the PLymouth, Blackburn and QPR games But but but he had no strikers! But but but he had injuries! No he was just shite! As you say should have gone long before. |
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 3, 2024 18:14:05 GMT 1
Even at 1-0 I don't think we'd have won that under Moore. No chance we go hunting for the second that quickly, he'd have got us to sit back and probably let them back into it rather than killing the game off
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Post by waggers on Feb 3, 2024 18:51:40 GMT 1
Even at 1-0 I don't think we'd have won that under Moore. No chance we go hunting for the second that quickly, he'd have got us to sit back and probably let them back into it rather than killing the game off Exactly. Once our first went in he'd have pulled them all back to stand on the line. We'd have shipped one 85 mins or later. Poor manager, up there with the toughest games of the season next. Let's hope we find the right long term gaffer. |
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Post by Floyds on Feb 3, 2024 19:43:58 GMT 1
What a useless waste of space Moore is/was.
With the “football” he had us playing and the results he got, he should have been sacked ages ago.
There’s not one redeeming or positive feature about him as a manager.
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Post by goodbet on Feb 3, 2024 19:59:58 GMT 1
What a useless waste of space Moore is/was. With the “football” he had us playing and the results he got, he should have been sacked ages ago. There’s not one redeeming or positive feature about him as a manager. I thought of one redeeming feature, he is no longer at our club. |
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Post by joek on Feb 3, 2024 20:07:34 GMT 1
Town win 4-0 and people still steaming in on Moore. Move on. Can guarantee absolutely no-one was complimentary about Worthington before the 67th minute today. Thomas and Koroma were getting pelters around me all game up to that point all day too and both end the day as heroes. Football is a fickle game.
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Post by morleyterrier on Feb 3, 2024 20:10:57 GMT 1
Well done Town, you have managed to destroy a unified fan base, all behind the same Manager. You have created a division. A division there didn’t need to be. The support is now divided and falling out, big time. Two camps all at each others throats. This from such a positive position. Great way to run a club or business that. Fuck me, talk about overreacting. You’d have thought Darren Moore shot Neil from the sounds of it. How’s it going?. |
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Post by waggers on Feb 3, 2024 20:13:09 GMT 1
Town win 4-0 and people still steaming in on Moore. Move on. Can guarantee absolutely no-one was complimentary about Worthington before the 67th minute today. Thomas and Koroma were getting pelters around me all game up to that point all day too and both end the day as heroes. Football is a fickle game. We don't win that game with Moore in charge. I know some will still cling to excuses for him but not a chance. After our first went in he would have done what he always did, and we'd have drawn. He's gone thankfully. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Feb 3, 2024 20:13:27 GMT 1
Should have got rid a lot sooner. Bradfords his level.
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Post by joek on Feb 3, 2024 20:22:53 GMT 1
Fuck me, talk about overreacting. You’d have thought Darren Moore shot Neil from the sounds of it. How’s it going?. That post was still a massive overreaction. Not surprised to see you lording it up now though! |
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Post by joek on Feb 3, 2024 20:24:29 GMT 1
Town win 4-0 and people still steaming in on Moore. Move on. Can guarantee absolutely no-one was complimentary about Worthington before the 67th minute today. Thomas and Koroma were getting pelters around me all game up to that point all day too and both end the day as heroes. Football is a fickle game. We don't win that game with Moore in charge. I know some will still cling to excuses for him but not a chance. After our first went in he would have done what he always did, and we'd have drawn. He's gone thankfully. Opinion masquerading as fact again. No one knows do they? Good brass neck on you though. |
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Post by goodbet on Feb 3, 2024 20:28:54 GMT 1
We don't win that game with Moore in charge. I know some will still cling to excuses for him but not a chance. After our first went in he would have done what he always did, and we'd have drawn. He's gone thankfully. Opinion masquerading as fact again. No one knows do they? Good brass neck on you though. Your opinion defending DM has more brass neck. |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Feb 3, 2024 20:31:51 GMT 1
We don't win that game with Moore in charge. I know some will still cling to excuses for him but not a chance. After our first went in he would have done what he always did, and we'd have drawn. He's gone thankfully. Opinion masquerading as fact again. No one knows do they? Good brass neck on you though. No it is not a fact, but do you honestly think we win that 4-0 with Moore in charge ? |
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Post by joek on Feb 3, 2024 20:35:49 GMT 1
Opinion masquerading as fact again. No one knows do they? Good brass neck on you though. Your opinion defending DM has more brass neck. Not defending him. Wouldn’t have reappointed Warnock this summer. Wouldn’t have sacked Warnock. Wouldn’t have appointed Moore. Wouldn’t have sacked him either to be fair but understand why they did. Just find his vilification very unpleasant. That’s it. People are very good at knowing what would have happened if Warnock was still here or if Moore was still here when it’s unknowable. Can anyone tell me that the first half was good? The first half of the second half? It was shite but we won 4-0. That’s football isn’t it? |
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Post by joek on Feb 3, 2024 20:38:40 GMT 1
Opinion masquerading as fact again. No one knows do they? Good brass neck on you though. No it is not a fact, but do you honestly think we win that 4-0 with Moore in charge ? Think my opinion is irrelevant really as it’s worth nowt because we don’t know. Appreciate that a footy message board would be dull if everyone took this stance! Just don’t like seeing a decent human being ridiculed. That’s it really. |
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Post by waggers on Feb 3, 2024 20:42:22 GMT 1
We don't win that game with Moore in charge. I know some will still cling to excuses for him but not a chance. After our first went in he would have done what he always did, and we'd have drawn. He's gone thankfully. Opinion masquerading as fact again. No one knows do they? Good brass neck on you though. We know due to multiple games watching Darren Moore. Why does that give me a brass neck? I don't think you've used a noun that makes any sense there. |
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Post by goodbet on Feb 3, 2024 20:50:50 GMT 1
Your opinion defending DM has more brass neck. Not defending him. Wouldn’t have reappointed Warnock this summer. Wouldn’t have sacked Warnock. Wouldn’t have appointed Moore. Wouldn’t have sacked him either to be fair but understand why they did. Just find his vilification very unpleasant. That’s it. People are very good at knowing what would have happened if Warnock was still here or if Moore was still here when it’s unknowable. Can anyone tell me that the first half was good? The first half of the second half? It was shite but we won 4-0. That’s football isn’t it? No one get's it right all of the time. you could tell from the off that Schofield wasn't up to the job more or less straight away. Buzz and DM you could see they had very little idea after about 6 games and it took the management a long time to see what we could see from the sidelines. Warnock was and still is a one off, maybe keeping him on was an error but not as big an error as removing him. The constant rumors about how everything was his fault was just making Cartwright and Co look like cowards. 3 wins from 23 games and you can't work out what would have happened if DM was still here, what does it take for you to make a decision? |
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Post by joek on Feb 3, 2024 20:51:56 GMT 1
Opinion masquerading as fact again. No one knows do they? Good brass neck on you though. We know due to multiple games watching Darren Moore. Why does that give me a brass neck? I don't think you've used a term that makes any sense there. Think it just means an overconfidence in an opinion or behaviour doesn’t it? Hence you being able to accurately predict what would have happened if X, Y or Z variable had been in place today. |
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Post by waggers on Feb 3, 2024 21:04:25 GMT 1
No it is not a fact, but do you honestly think we win that 4-0 with Moore in charge ? Think my opinion is irrelevant really as it’s worth nowt because we don’t know. Appreciate that a footy message board would be dull if everyone took this stance! Just don’t like seeing a decent human being ridiculed. That’s it really. I'm not going after Moore as a man and don't like any personal attacks on his character being made. I'm criticising his ability as a football manager. We can make very well educated guesses on what would have happened in that game, if Moore was manager based off a lot of evidence. It isn't guesswork. I'm not saying we were great up to our first goal but the point is Moore wouldn't have gone for 2, 3 and 4. He'd have shut up shop hoping for 1-0, which didn't tend to end well for us. |
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Post by waggers on Feb 3, 2024 21:09:02 GMT 1
We know due to multiple games watching Darren Moore. Why does that give me a brass neck? I don't think you've used a term that makes any sense there. Think it just means an overconfidence in an opinion or behaviour doesn’t it? Hence you being able to accurately predict what would have happened if X, Y or Z variable had been in place today. It's extreme confidence in your own actions/abilities I believe. Not in your own opinion. Anyway, as mentioned in a previous post Moore would have done what he usually did. The result would have likely reflected that. |
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Post by morleyterrier on Feb 3, 2024 21:10:07 GMT 1
We know due to multiple games watching Darren Moore. Why does that give me a brass neck? I don't think you've used a term that makes any sense there. Think it just means an overconfidence in an opinion or behaviour doesn’t it? Hence you being able to accurately predict what would have happened if X, Y or Z variable had been in place today. Call it a day. |
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Post by joek on Feb 3, 2024 21:13:02 GMT 1
Not defending him. Wouldn’t have reappointed Warnock this summer. Wouldn’t have sacked Warnock. Wouldn’t have appointed Moore. Wouldn’t have sacked him either to be fair but understand why they did. Just find his vilification very unpleasant. That’s it. People are very good at knowing what would have happened if Warnock was still here or if Moore was still here when it’s unknowable. Can anyone tell me that the first half was good? The first half of the second half? It was shite but we won 4-0. That’s football isn’t it? No one get's it right all of the time. you could tell from the off that Schofield wasn't up to the job more or less straight away. Buzz and DM you could see they had very little idea after about 6 games and it took the management a long time to see what we could see from the sidelines. Warnock was and still is a one off, maybe keeping him on was an error but not as big an error as removing him. The constant rumors about how everything was his fault was just making Cartwright and Co look like cowards. 3 wins from 23 games and you can't work out what would have happened if DM was still here, what does it take for you to make a decision? Don’t disagree with much of that about Schofield and Fotheringham who were very wet behind the ears. Regarding Moore, who did well at WBA, Donny and Wednesday, I just think it’s too easy to say ‘he was shite and would never have done owt.’ Can’t defend his record with us and not trying to. Just wonder if 23 games is enough of an evidence base for people to be able to make grand predictions about the future. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Feb 3, 2024 21:16:45 GMT 1
Would've, Could've, Should've.
I'll tell you what.
Jordan Rhodes would've scored our 2nd goal today, but only 10 years ago.
Not now.
Koroma did it perfectly. Got a yard, got his body in front of the defender(so he could do nowt), slotted it home.
Perfect striker play.
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Post by tepidterrier on Feb 3, 2024 21:21:10 GMT 1
No one get's it right all of the time. you could tell from the off that Schofield wasn't up to the job more or less straight away. Buzz and DM you could see they had very little idea after about 6 games and it took the management a long time to see what we could see from the sidelines. Warnock was and still is a one off, maybe keeping him on was an error but not as big an error as removing him. The constant rumors about how everything was his fault was just making Cartwright and Co look like cowards. 3 wins from 23 games and you can't work out what would have happened if DM was still here, what does it take for you to make a decision? Don’t disagree with much of that about Schofield and Fotheringham who were very wet behind the ears. Regarding Moore, who did well at WBA, Donny and Wednesday, I just think it’s too easy to say ‘he was shite and would never have done owt.’ Can’t defend his record with us and not trying to. Just wonder if 23 games is enough of an evidence base for people to be able to make grand predictions about the future. There were mitigating factors, but he did himself no favours at all with his approach to games. It was made clear to him over a month ago that the club weren't happy with this approach, and it kept fans away. 23 games is definitely a big enough sample when he had the exact same negative game plan in all but 4 of them (Blackburn, Sunderland, QPR home, and Ipswich). |
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