joek
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Post by joek on Feb 3, 2024 21:23:15 GMT 1
Think my opinion is irrelevant really as it’s worth nowt because we don’t know. Appreciate that a footy message board would be dull if everyone took this stance! Just don’t like seeing a decent human being ridiculed. That’s it really. I'm not going after Moore as a man and don't like any personal attacks on his character being made. I'm criticising his ability as a football manager. We can make very well educated guesses on what would have happened in that game, if Moore was manager based off a lot of evidence. It isn't guesswork. I'm not saying we were great up to our first goal but the point is Moore wouldn't have gone for 2, 3 and 4. He'd have shut up shot hoping for 1-0, which didn't tend to end well for us. His ability as a football manager seemed good based on performance at WBA, Donny and Wednesday though didn’t it? Wikipedia says WBA were fourth, Donny were in L1 play off positions and Wednesday had just been promoted from L1 when he left each of those jobs. If he’s as shit as everyone says, how did he do that? Not trying to defend his record at Town as was very poor, but this was his first ‘miss’ as a manager, no? |
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Post by goodbet on Feb 3, 2024 21:29:08 GMT 1
No one get's it right all of the time. you could tell from the off that Schofield wasn't up to the job more or less straight away. Buzz and DM you could see they had very little idea after about 6 games and it took the management a long time to see what we could see from the sidelines. Warnock was and still is a one off, maybe keeping him on was an error but not as big an error as removing him. The constant rumors about how everything was his fault was just making Cartwright and Co look like cowards. 3 wins from 23 games and you can't work out what would have happened if DM was still here, what does it take for you to make a decision? Don’t disagree with much of that about Schofield and Fotheringham who were very wet behind the ears. Regarding Moore, who did well at WBA, Donny and Wednesday, I just think it’s too easy to say ‘he was shite and would never have done owt.’ Can’t defend his record with us and not trying to. Just wonder if 23 games is enough of an evidence base for people to be able to make grand predictions about the future. When is enough? We have to make decisions all the time and if we can't decide what is what after a lot less games than 23, you are going to have a miserable life dragging losers around bringing you down, keeping you poor and miserable. It is a tough world and dragging your heels over decisions will not make your life easier or better. |
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Post by waggers on Feb 3, 2024 21:32:51 GMT 1
I'm not going after Moore as a man and don't like any personal attacks on his character being made. I'm criticising his ability as a football manager. We can make very well educated guesses on what would have happened in that game, if Moore was manager based off a lot of evidence. It isn't guesswork. I'm not saying we were great up to our first goal but the point is Moore wouldn't have gone for 2, 3 and 4. He'd have shut up shot hoping for 1-0, which didn't tend to end well for us. His ability as a football manager seemed good based on performance at WBA, Donny and Wednesday though didn’t it? Wikipedia says WBA were fourth, Donny were in L1 play off positions and Wednesday had just been promoted from L1 when he left each of those jobs. If he’s as shit as everyone says, how did he do that? Not trying to defend his record at Town as was very poor, but this was his first ‘miss’ as a manager, no? I'm talking about his performance at Huddersfield Town. Which was terrible. There are arguments about his record at the clubs you mentioned, I didn't watch many of his games in charge of either. I could talk about things said by fans of each of those clubs but those could be bias. I didn't want Moore but I'm basing my opinion off what I've seen. And it was terrible management. |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 3, 2024 21:33:49 GMT 1
I'm not going after Moore as a man and don't like any personal attacks on his character being made. I'm criticising his ability as a football manager. We can make very well educated guesses on what would have happened in that game, if Moore was manager based off a lot of evidence. It isn't guesswork. I'm not saying we were great up to our first goal but the point is Moore wouldn't have gone for 2, 3 and 4. He'd have shut up shot hoping for 1-0, which didn't tend to end well for us. His ability as a football manager seemed good based on performance at WBA, Donny and Wednesday though didn’t it? Wikipedia says WBA were fourth, Donny were in L1 play off positions and Wednesday had just been promoted from L1 when he left each of those jobs. If he’s as shit as everyone says, how did he do that? Not trying to defend his record at Town as was very poor, but this was his first ‘miss’ as a manager, no? Does Wiki also say he got relegated with 2 of them ? |
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Post by waggers on Feb 3, 2024 21:35:21 GMT 1
No one get's it right all of the time. you could tell from the off that Schofield wasn't up to the job more or less straight away. Buzz and DM you could see they had very little idea after about 6 games and it took the management a long time to see what we could see from the sidelines. Warnock was and still is a one off, maybe keeping him on was an error but not as big an error as removing him. The constant rumors about how everything was his fault was just making Cartwright and Co look like cowards. 3 wins from 23 games and you can't work out what would have happened if DM was still here, what does it take for you to make a decision? Don’t disagree with much of that about Schofield and Fotheringham who were very wet behind the ears. Regarding Moore, who did well at WBA, Donny and Wednesday, I just think it’s too easy to say ‘he was shite and would never have done owt.’ Can’t defend his record with us and not trying to. Just wonder if 23 games is enough of an evidence base for people to be able to make grand predictions about the future. 23 games is plenty. Especially with what the vast majority of those 23 games included. |
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Post by htafcokay on Feb 3, 2024 21:42:21 GMT 1
Should have got rid a lot sooner. Bradfords his level. Park Avenue? |
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Post by fredcarno1 on Feb 3, 2024 22:12:40 GMT 1
Erm, part and partial, in terms of - let’s be honest Darren Moore is an absolute fraud of a football manager, for those that feel sorry for him he’ll probably walk away from Town with a million quid for 6 months of abject failure.
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Post by dugnet on Feb 3, 2024 22:26:10 GMT 1
Time to move on, DM is the past.
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Post by harris on Feb 3, 2024 22:56:24 GMT 1
Erm, part and partial, in terms of - let’s be honest Darren Moore is an absolute fraud of a football manager, for those that feel sorry for him he’ll probably walk away from Town with a million quid for 6 months of abject failure. There was a point in Matty Pearsons interview where he said part and parcel, then grinned for a few seconds. Made me wonder if he was subtly taking the piss - we’ll never know 🤣 |
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 3, 2024 22:56:39 GMT 1
Time to move on, DM is the past. Thank fuck 😁 |
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Post by rockwall on Feb 4, 2024 16:35:28 GMT 1
I have heard today that Moore was going to walk before the Wednesday game anyway, but saidd he would do preparation for the game etc.
Nagel didn't see the point so relieved him straightaway.
If Moore has said that, does that mean we won't need to pay him?
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 4, 2024 17:26:30 GMT 1
Doubt it, that would be stupid, wouldn't it?🤷♂️
In other news....
It's gonna be a shame when the last of the DM threads finally dribbles out of everyday consciousness.
Only to be replaced by some other hate-fest, of course...see @turing for that, obvs?😘
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Feb 8, 2024 16:46:32 GMT 1
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Feb 8, 2024 18:14:23 GMT 1
Dear Mods, any chance you can save us from yet more suffering of the Darren Moore period by swiftly sticking it under "ex players and managers"? Ta.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Feb 8, 2024 18:33:06 GMT 1
Dear Mods, any chance you can save us from yet more suffering of the Darren Moore period by swiftly sticking it under "ex players and managers"? Ta. Nope, But I will put an anchor on it, so that only the most hardened DM haters will find it to stick some more knives in.  |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Feb 8, 2024 19:06:21 GMT 1
Dear Mods, any chance you can save us from yet more suffering of the Darren Moore period by swiftly sticking it under "ex players and managers"? Ta. Nope, But I will put an anchor on it, so that only the most hardened DM haters will find it to stick some more knives in. Out of interest, at what point does an ex manager become an ex manager on DATM ? Only when he's 6ft under and pushing up the daisies ?  |
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Post by Huddy Town Black Sox on Feb 8, 2024 20:01:52 GMT 1
His ability as a football manager seemed good based on performance at WBA, Donny and Wednesday though didn’t it? Wikipedia says WBA were fourth, Donny were in L1 play off positions and Wednesday had just been promoted from L1 when he left each of those jobs. If he’s as shit as everyone says, how did he do that? Not trying to defend his record at Town as was very poor, but this was his first ‘miss’ as a manager, no? I'm talking about his performance at Huddersfield Town. Which was terrible. There are arguments about his record at the clubs you mentioned, I didn't watch many of his games in charge of either. I could talk about things said by fans of each of those clubs but those could be bias. I didn't want Moore but I'm basing my opinion off what I've seen. And it was terrible management. This is me too Decent record, decent fella,, not worked out here, |
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Post by yappledapple on Feb 8, 2024 20:23:42 GMT 1
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Post by keithAM11532 on Feb 8, 2024 20:24:56 GMT 1
Nope, But I will put an anchor on it, so that only the most hardened DM haters will find it to stick some more knives in. Out of interest, at what point does an ex manager become an ex manager on DATM ? Only when he's 6ft under and pushing up the daisies ? Trust me, you really do not want 131 pages inserted in to the ex player manager thread, which as it happens, is pinned to the top of the board. |
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Post by efesodje23 on Feb 8, 2024 21:32:18 GMT 1
That pr*ck can f*ck off. An no, I don't mean Moore. |
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Post by terryya on Feb 8, 2024 22:08:48 GMT 1
That pr*ck can f*ck off. An no, I don't mean Moore. To be fair, play off nonsense aside, he tends to talk sense. |
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krtek
Darren Bullock Terrier
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Post by krtek on Feb 8, 2024 22:14:20 GMT 1
That pr*ck can f*ck off. An no, I don't mean Moore. tell me the lie he speaks there |
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Post by CowshedJack on Feb 13, 2024 12:31:58 GMT 1
Fuck me, talk about overreacting. You’d have thought Darren Moore shot Neil from the sounds of it. How’s it going?. Ahahaha I bet you had the post saved as a bookmark on your desktop. I said at the time I’d be happy to admit I was wrong if the appointment went tits up, but people were reacting fairly over the top at the time. Moore was tactically inept, but he did have everyone on his back from the start anyway. It doesn’t change he wasn’t good enough though. Absolute insanity of you going back to say I told you so though, grow up mate, people get stuff wrong in football. I bet if he had been a success you wouldn’t have been digging back through hundreds of comments. |
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Post by Uddersfeeled on Feb 13, 2024 16:06:59 GMT 1
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cuz
Iain Dunn Terrier
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Post by cuz on Feb 13, 2024 16:12:38 GMT 1
Does that get him off our payrole? |
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Post by Uddersfeeled on Feb 13, 2024 16:22:58 GMT 1
Does that get him off our payrole? I would certainly hope so !! |
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Post by runner76 on Feb 13, 2024 16:34:22 GMT 1
good if you can get it!
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cuz
Iain Dunn Terrier
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Post by cuz on Feb 13, 2024 16:34:32 GMT 1
Does that get him off our payrole? I would certainly hope so !! And similar with Warnock? |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 13, 2024 16:38:51 GMT 1
I hear Robbie Williams is performing live before Darren's first game!!
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Post by Essex Terrier on Feb 13, 2024 16:39:50 GMT 1
I hear Robbie Williams is performing live before Darren's first game!! I can also confirm that he will NOT be doing "Let Me Entertain You"!! You heard it hear first. |
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