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Post by aksaiblue on Jan 22, 2024 12:44:03 GMT 1
I listened to the KN interview and going by what he said, concerning promotion to the premiership, Helik would be one of the last players we would put up for sale.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 22, 2024 12:53:15 GMT 1
If someone is prepared to pay very big money for a player who is one of the championships best centre backs it might make sense in the summer. The fee could bring in a replacement and improve the squad in other areas. Definitely not in January though. If it's not very big money keep him. Hopefully the days of selling players as soon as we get an offer are over. The days of selling a player as soon as we get an offer? Do you really think we don’t negotiate? Do you think agents have an influence?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 22, 2024 12:54:04 GMT 1
Where has this rumour started? Doesn’t seem to come from any credible source. Down at the Mill…
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 22, 2024 13:45:37 GMT 1
I did post on here the other day I heard from a very reputable source we were in for a central defender who I felt was very unrealistic based on price/age/calibre. Putting 2 and 2 together, if the Leicester rumour in for Helik was true then the sums of money we’re talking about would likely be more realistic to replace with the guy I’m talking about. Certainly not fact. Just a theory. Im rarely ITK and can’t share name before the keyboard warriors who’ll no doubt criticise. Just don’t want to lose my source So straight swap for Souttar? Or Souttar plus cash? Or cash amount and loan of Souttar for rest of season? I think I'd rather bring Coady back
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2024 14:08:39 GMT 1
Selling your best players is not the way when you're aiming to get to the Premier League
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Post by Ladaphosen on Jan 22, 2024 14:36:10 GMT 1
Selling your best players is not the way when you're aiming to get to the Premier League If you re-invest that money on the pitch, I would argue it is almost a necessity to get back to the PL
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Post by calken on Jan 22, 2024 14:51:47 GMT 1
Selling your best players is not the way when you're aiming to get to the Premier League If you re-invest that money on the pitch, I would argue it is almost a necessity to get back to the PL It also shows talented players that you bring into club that we won't stop the progression in their career.
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Post by royrace on Jan 22, 2024 17:17:28 GMT 1
If someone is prepared to pay very big money for a player who is one of the championships best centre backs it might make sense in the summer. The fee could bring in a replacement and improve the squad in other areas. Definitely not in January though. If it's not very big money keep him. Hopefully the days of selling players as soon as we get an offer are over. The days of selling a player as soon as we get an offer? Do you really think we don’t negotiate? Do you think agents have an influence? Erm, I didn't mean literally We have however, in recent times, been very quick to cash in. LOB and Toff most recent examples and yes I know about the contract situation. Mooy another example. Hopefully those days are over and we can build a team around such players or at least use the money to strengthen the squad and extract a fair price at a time that suits.
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Post by royrace on Jan 22, 2024 17:19:33 GMT 1
Selling your best players is not the way when you're aiming to get to the Premier League If you re-invest that money on the pitch, I would argue it is almost a necessity to get back to the PL Yes if it's wisely reinvested it's a good strategy. Brentford did very well at it.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 22, 2024 17:39:15 GMT 1
The days of selling a player as soon as we get an offer? Do you really think we don’t negotiate? Do you think agents have an influence? Erm, I didn't mean literally :D We have however, in recent times, been very quick to cash in. LOB and Toff most recent examples and yes I know about the contract situation. Mooy another example. Hopefully those days are over and we can build a team around such players or at least use the money to strengthen the squad and extract a fair price at a time that suits. Apologies… I thought LOB was always going to be a difficult one anyway, wasn’t he at the end of his contract, so arguably held all the aces? I think there were also extenuating circumstances around the transfer of the daft twins, namely a large Greek bloke… I think transfers are a lot more difficult than we think though, the influence of agents is downplayed a lot, if the game could bring them under control we might see less of the snake oil behaviours we do see in the game. On a positive note, it does appear that KN is in it for the long haul, but it’ll be interesting to see how his stewardship develops in the next 18 months, because most English/UK supporters are a hard bunch to please.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Jan 22, 2024 20:00:47 GMT 1
I did post on here the other day I heard from a very reputable source we were in for a central defender who I felt was very unrealistic based on price/age/calibre. Putting 2 and 2 together, if the Leicester rumour in for Helik was true then the sums of money we’re talking about would likely be more realistic to replace with the guy I’m talking about. Certainly not fact. Just a theory. Im rarely ITK and can’t share name before the keyboard warriors who’ll no doubt criticise. Just don’t want to lose my source So straight swap for Souttar? Or Souttar plus cash? Or cash amount and loan of Souttar for rest of season? I havent kept up with developments today but haven’t heard anything on Souttar
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Jan 23, 2024 0:35:10 GMT 1
Selling your best players is not the way when you're aiming to get to the Premier League If you re-invest that money on the pitch, I would argue it is almost a necessity to get back to the PL Not when you sell your best assets in January.
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Post by htfcterry on Jan 23, 2024 10:00:08 GMT 1
Just listening to AHTTC pod and he’s 3 goals off breaking the record for the most goals in a season for a Town defender. Incredible. I wonder what the record is for the most goals scored by a defender in the Championship.
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Post by rockwall on Jan 23, 2024 10:07:10 GMT 1
Bottom line is Helik has to stay.
Makes me laugh when people say it shows we are a stepping stone etc. Players will go where the money is.
We have made the mistake of selling our better players more than once. For once, it would be nice to build a team around players like helik.
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Post by rockwall on Jan 23, 2024 10:11:17 GMT 1
Just listening to AHTTC pod and he’s 3 goals off breaking the record for the most goals in a season for a Town defender. Incredible. I wonder what the record is for the most goals scored by a defender in the Championship. Remember Blackburns commentary team saying Mulgrew got 10 back 2018.
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Post by boooothy on Jan 23, 2024 10:13:35 GMT 1
Bottoming is Helik has to stay. Makes me laugh when people say it shows we are a stepping stone etc. Players will go where the money is. We have made the mistake of selling our better players more than once. For once, it would be nice to build a team around players like helik. Is Bottoming the same as Bumming?
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Post by rockwall on Jan 23, 2024 10:53:31 GMT 1
Bottoming is Helik has to stay. Makes me laugh when people say it shows we are a stepping stone etc. Players will go where the money is. We have made the mistake of selling our better players more than once. For once, it would be nice to build a team around players like helik. Is Bottoming the same as Bumming? Edited... bloody hell, fat fingers on the phone!!
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Post by cyberman on Jan 23, 2024 11:26:11 GMT 1
Bottoming is Helik has to stay. Makes me laugh when people say it shows we are a stepping stone etc. Players will go where the money is. We have made the mistake of selling our better players more than once. For once, it would be nice to build a team around players like helik. I s Bottoming the same as Bumming?Not sure - ask your dad
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Post by htfcterry on Jan 23, 2024 11:50:00 GMT 1
Just listening to AHTTC pod and he’s 3 goals off breaking the record for the most goals in a season for a Town defender. Incredible. I wonder what the record is for the most goals scored by a defender in the Championship. Remember Blackburns commentary team saying Mulgrew got 10 back 2018. Helik was the Championships top scorer for a defender in 20/21 for Barnsley too with 5 Hope he breaks records for the rest of the season, only if he is staying of course.
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Post by Tiro on Jan 23, 2024 19:18:28 GMT 1
Just listening to AHTTC pod and he’s 3 goals off breaking the record for the most goals in a season for a Town defender. Incredible. I wonder what the record is for the most goals scored by a defender in the Championship. Remember Blackburns commentary team saying Mulgrew got 10 back 2018. 14 and 5 assists the season before in L1. 24 over two seasons. We can only hope for that return from a striker.
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Post by Fish & Chips on Jan 23, 2024 21:29:53 GMT 1
If you re-invest that money on the pitch, I would argue it is almost a necessity to get back to the PL It also shows talented players that you bring into club that we won't stop the progression in their career. But you don't let your talent go in January, especially when your on the verge of relegation.
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Post by utttrooper on Jan 23, 2024 22:03:53 GMT 1
Remember Blackburns commentary team saying Mulgrew got 10 back 2018. 14 and 5 assists the season before in L1. 24 over two seasons. We can only hope for that return from a striker. Now let's be realistic here
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Post by Porrohman on Jan 23, 2024 22:23:00 GMT 1
Just listening to AHTTC pod and he’s 3 goals off breaking the record for the most goals in a season for a Town defender. Incredible. I wonder what the record is for the most goals scored by a defender in the Championship. Remember Blackburns commentary team saying Mulgrew got 10 back 2018. 14, according to wiki. He was a free kick specialist though and I'm not sure whether he took pens.
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Post by King Curtis on Jan 23, 2024 22:23:38 GMT 1
If Helik goes it will completely undo our January business...
When a centre half is your top scorer you've an issue
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Post by Tiro on Jan 23, 2024 22:47:46 GMT 1
If Helik goes it will completely undo our January business... When a centre half is your top scorer you've an issue Especially if we’re to continue playing three CBs. No way will he go without an immediate replacement at the very least, surely.
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Post by cuz on Jan 23, 2024 22:49:02 GMT 1
If Helik goes it will completely undo our January business... When a centre half is your top scorer you've an issue Especially if we’re to continue playing three CBs. No way will he go without an immediate replacement at the very least, surely. Ermmmm this is HTFC
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Post by King Curtis on Jan 23, 2024 23:08:29 GMT 1
If Helik goes it will completely undo our January business... When a centre half is your top scorer you've an issue Especially if we’re to continue playing three CBs. No way will he go without an immediate replacement at the very least, surely. Surely? You followed town much?
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Post by runner76 on Jan 24, 2024 0:04:34 GMT 1
After getting rid of Warnock, can you imagine our new owner the. Letting the best defender and top scorer go……not happening!!!
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Post by willo on Jan 24, 2024 1:03:43 GMT 1
It also shows talented players that you bring into club that we won't stop the progression in their career. But you don't let your talent go in January, especially when your on the verge of relegation. Or on the verge of the play offs like 20 odd years ago. Oh wait!
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Post by rockwall on Jan 24, 2024 7:42:55 GMT 1
Remember Blackburns commentary team saying Mulgrew got 10 back 2018. 14, according to wiki. He was a free kick specialist though and I'm not sure whether he took pens. That was League 1 wasn't it? I meant in the Championship. But yeah, think he was a set piece specialist.
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