Euro 2024

[htfcfcfc]

Jul 14, 2024 21:54:48 GMT 1 ilsonterrier said:

Only 4 minutes injury time was a joke. We've played barely half of that. How can he not add anything for the two "fouls" in injury time? And then blow up short even then.

They were the better team though

I reckon 1 minute in play. Very odd when you consider it was only one major tournament ago we were regularly seeing 8-10 mins +

What rules have changed?

[Oblong of Dreams]

Jul 14, 2024 22:14:10 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

We need a Venables type character to take this side forward.

I’ve not get enough brain cells to think who that might be.

Neil Warnock?

😉

[Scott Chegg]

Jul 14, 2024 21:38:38 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

Palmer is more an 'England' player than many who start games before him.?

I don't understand the question.

[themanfromatlantis]

Spain scored 15 goals in their 7 games, how many did we score in 7?

Such a wealth of talent, thankfully many have still got their best yrs ahead of them.

[scutcher]

Will Southgate be doing another Pizza advert?

[Christ in Shades (art)]

One bonus out of this debacle is that it's Southgate’s last game as England manager.

[Detective Boyle]

After the dust settles on his time as manager, we will look back on his time with us as one of massive improvement compared to previous managers. Huge improvement. You can’t say it is successful because success on an international level is judged by silverware, anything else is tinpot, but he has strengthened us as a footballing nation.
Unfortunately, I do believe our ceiling is a semi final/runner up team as we do not have the technical footballing ability of the winning nations. Athleticism will get us so far but we will always fall short because of a lack of pure footballing ability. Until we change our grass roots philosophies we will always trail Spain etc.

[stevvy]

Jul 14, 2024 22:14:00 GMT 1 alfredsterrier said:

I think he will leave.
I just feel sorry for the club that signs him on the back of his England record.
He had a team full of good or great players yet he kept the handbrake on them.
Spain much better throughout.

It's why I haven't bothered with England for years. You can tell he was a defender when he played the game.....haven't watched a game in years, but all I ever see people saying is the games/performances/style of play is boring, negative, tedious, defensive, drab, uninspiring, etc.

[Terrier Ramone]

Best team won but how embarrassing again that we've reached (God knows how this time) a second Euros final & not tried to win either.

Southgate will no doubt be claiming Spain cheated twice, the first time when they went 1 up they actually kept on playing & tried to score a second & then once we had equalised they very unfairly & unsportingly didn't waste time to try & get to extra time, they actually had the audacity to go for a win in 90 mins.

Southgate needs to go & let's get a coach who will let other teams worry about us for a change.

[ambryboy]

Jul 14, 2024 22:18:00 GMT 1 scutcher said:

Will Southgate be doing another Pizza advert?

Hopefully he will have a bit more time on his hands very soon.

[Mounie for nothing]

Jul 14, 2024 22:16:10 GMT 1 Scott Chegg said:

Jul 14, 2024 21:38:38 GMT 1 galpharm2400 said:

Palmer is more an 'England' player than many who start games before him.?

I don't understand the question.

He's white? Or am I reading too much into this "question"

[workshyfop]

Dreadful stuff all tournament.
Southgate clueless.
Picked a left back only fit enough if we got to the final.
Suddenly experimented with a full back in the centre of midfield.
Kane obviously injured.
O’Rice awful.
Cautious with substitutions.
Roll on World Cup 2026!

[utttrooper]

Tonight, I can't really blame Southgate and it was a case of Spain creating and taking their chances better than we did. However, I think it's a natural end to Southgate's time in charge. He did well but the football was never overly entertaining at all and it's time for new ideas. The Nations League games will be a good start for the new boss to get a feel for the players.

[Scott Chegg]

Jul 14, 2024 21:54:47 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

How is it a min of ‘x’ mins, but he blows up right on 4 mins and they’ve had a couple of stoppages. Doubt it would have affected the outcome.

I said exactly the same. 4 mins of injury time but the ball was in play for about 90 seconds after the Spaniards (understandably) spent most of the time rolling round on the floor.

That said they've been the best team in the tournament and England have lost to their own/Safegate's mentality as much as the team in front of them.

The best attacking squad in the tournament and approach games like Town in the PL. 😔

[Frankiesleftpeg]

Not often I agree with Ferdinand but he's right. This team have have been held back & they only come to life when they go a goal behind.

Time for a reset with a manager who's capable of getting the best out the talent available. As good as Spain have been, we should have pissed this tournament with our squad.

Kane, Walker & Safegate should all be pensioned off now.

[Million Dollar Babies]

When you compare the two line ups based on club football you'd pick as many England players as Spain players.

It's down to coaching and approach. This squad was good enough to win it but not with this manager and staff

[Baby Ate My Eight Ball]

Southgate has done a great job creating a culture in the team that has made players want to be there. Shouldn’t be underestimated.

He is however a poor tactician and his commitment to Kane was laughable.

Not picking a fit left back, I don’t understand that.

Can’t set a press.

Can’t play through the thirds. Watching Pickford twat it out of play for a goal kick is shameful in a final at this level.

Not sure who the replacement should be but Spain were drilled like a club side so it is possible.

Still can’t get past the feeling that the Italy game was the golden chance we utterly squandered because of Southgate’s cautiousness.

[Oblong of Dreams]

Jul 14, 2024 22:20:59 GMT 1 Mounie for nothing said:

Jul 14, 2024 22:16:10 GMT 1 Scott Chegg said:

I don't understand the question.

He's white? Or am I reading too much into this "question"

Definitely reading too much into it- it was presumably a joke aimed at the erroneous "?" in the OP.

[markthehorn]

Jul 14, 2024 21:58:37 GMT 1 Oblong of Dreams said:

Jul 14, 2024 21:54:41 GMT 1 space hardware said:

Four mins of injury time, two of those were spent watching the Spanish roll around on the floor.

Been like that all tournament. I know people moaned about excessive time added at the start of the last World Cup, but I'd rather that than the current approach.

IFAB have it arse-backwards when it comes to time-wasting. Just add the time on so the delaying tactics don't work. Same goes for the limits on substitutions in the EFL.

UEFA said they didn’t like the larger amounts of injury time like we see here or in the World cup

[Million Dollar Babies]

I won't miss that assistant manager talking behind his hand constantly. What the hell is he saying that's so top secret he doesn't want anyone to see?

[Oblong of Dreams]

Jul 14, 2024 22:30:15 GMT 1 markthehorn said:

Jul 14, 2024 21:58:37 GMT 1 Oblong of Dreams said:

Been like that all tournament. I know people moaned about excessive time added at the start of the last World Cup, but I'd rather that than the current approach.

IFAB have it arse-backwards when it comes to time-wasting. Just add the time on so the delaying tactics don't work. Same goes for the limits on substitutions in the EFL.

UEFA said they didn’t like the larger amounts of injury time like we see here or in the World cup

They're meant to be an authority on Football... why are they so against football being played?

[ChelmsfordTerrier]

Time for an elite level manager to take things one step further.

Convince Klopp or similar.

Anyway time to move on to the real matter at hand, towns league 1 charge!

[kimbo999]

Think I've watched a different game to most
Apart from the odd moment we were 2nd rate
Like a prem side in FA cup against a plucky minow.
Can't string half a dozen passes together.
Players believing their own hype not as good as they are built up to be.
Or just proper shit tactics and selection

[Niggled]

Jul 14, 2024 22:14:10 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

We need a Venables type character to take this side forward.

I’ve not get enough brain cells to think who that might be.

Only man I can put forward is Tottenham s Aussie man. Posstegolue or whatever it is . Ange?

[Scott Chegg]

Jul 14, 2024 22:28:02 GMT 1 Oblong of Dreams said:

Jul 14, 2024 22:20:59 GMT 1 Mounie for nothing said:

He's white? Or am I reading too much into this "question"

Definitely reading too much into it- it was presumably a joke aimed at the erroneous "?" in the OP.

Bingo. Plus I think he's mixed race anyway 😆

[Oblong of Dreams]

Jul 14, 2024 22:33:19 GMT 1 kimbo999 said:

Think I've watched a different game to most
Apart from the odd moment we were 2nd rate
Like a prem side in FA cup against a plucky minow.
Can't string half a dozen passes together.
Players believing their own hype not as good as they are built up to be.
Or just proper shit tactics and selection

Think you've been browsing a different forum if you think most on here are happy with the performance!

[ChelmsfordTerrier]

Jul 14, 2024 22:33:19 GMT 1 kimbo999 said:

Think I've watched a different game to most
Apart from the odd moment we were 2nd rate
Like a prem side in FA cup against a plucky minow.
Can't string half a dozen passes together.
Players believing their own hype not as good as they are built up to be.
Or just proper shit tactics and selection

Not sure what you are reading but there’s very few disagreeing with you on here ?

[Million Dollar Babies]

Jul 14, 2024 22:33:47 GMT 1 Niggled said:

Jul 14, 2024 22:14:10 GMT 1 themanfromatlantis said:

We need a Venables type character to take this side forward.

I’ve not get enough brain cells to think who that might be.

Only man I can put forward is Tottenham s Aussie man. Posstegolue or whatever it is . Ange?

I'd like it to be Eddie Howe but can't see him leaving Newcastle

[Mav]

Next England manager?
Eddie Howe?

[arry11]

Jul 14, 2024 22:14:00 GMT 1 alfredsterrier said:

I think he will leave.
I just feel sorry for the club that signs him on the back of his England record.
He had a team full of good or great players yet he kept the handbrake on them.
Spain much better throughout.

Yes they were the better team they are more technically gifted and know how to pass through a team.