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Post by Porrohman on Oct 26, 2023 12:45:19 GMT 1
We’re the Everton of the Championship. Season after season (almost) of poor decision making, poor managerial appointments, poor signings and narrowly avoiding relegation. And with cards as our nearest rivals. |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 26, 2023 12:47:08 GMT 1
Agree a truly terrible decision and all because of a silly Twitter spat, but selling Marcus to Ipswich was worse and leaving Jordan on the bench at Old Trafford is also up there. People that have amassed millions of £s are not stupid, they have the nouse to come back from mistakes quickly, the future could turn out rosier than what is going on at present. The 3 year plan says it all for me. That they're delusional ? 😉 |
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Post by iangreaves on Oct 26, 2023 12:58:46 GMT 1
Agree a truly terrible decision and all because of a silly Twitter spat, but selling Marcus to Ipswich was worse and leaving Jordan on the bench at Old Trafford is also up there. People that have amassed millions of £s are not stupid, they have the nouse to come back from mistakes quickly, the future could turn out rosier than what is going on at present. The 3 year plan says it all for me. Remember this guy? www.independent.co.uk/sport/football-bankrupt-goldberg-owes-pounds-30m-1125983.html |
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 26, 2023 19:50:07 GMT 1
All I get is an advert trying to get me to take out a subscription for the paper 🤷 |
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Post by iangreaves on Oct 26, 2023 19:59:48 GMT 1
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Post by Boaty McBoatface on Oct 26, 2023 20:17:41 GMT 1
Agree a truly terrible decision and all because of a silly Twitter spat, but selling Marcus to Ipswich was worse and leaving Jordan on the bench at Old Trafford is also up there. People that have amassed millions of £s are not stupid, they have the nouse to come back from mistakes quickly, the future could turn out rosier than what is going on at present. The 3 year plan says it all for me. Firstly most football owners in the Champtionship have amassed millions but 3 clubs still get relegated every year. And the last person to come out a 3 year plan was Ayrehead who promptly sold Marcus to Ipswich. For me, a "3 year plan" is a cop out. |
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Post by onesteviekindon on Oct 27, 2023 8:00:18 GMT 1
Getting rid of the most experienced manager in the country who saved us last season is the most crass, ridiculous and self harming decision I have witnessed in my 44 years watching Town. Obviously I want us to stay up but last night's performance is the worst I've seen since the Malcolm McDonald days back in the late 1980s. I have a feeling we'll be back in Div 3 in May. This new chairman gives me no confidence whatsoever. I'm not on Twitter but his postings there after the Norwich game were beyond puerile and utterly self defeating. Sadly I have to agree with every word of this. How many Championship quality players do we have on the books right now? Being generous I'd say no more than 3 or 4 which is nowhere near enough. Add to that we have an owner who seemingly is not prepared to spend money so the result of all this is inevitable. As for letting Warnock go, I never thought we could top the decision to sell Marcus Stewart 20+ years ago, but this one takes the biscuit. The most colossal own goal in our entire history. |
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Post by yoda2169 on Oct 27, 2023 10:58:47 GMT 1
Think we do stay up under Moore but only because there’s 3 or 4 teams that are woeful. The worry is how we push on to achieve this 3 year plan to be competing at the top end. The only way is big investment in the squad which I doubt will happen. |
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Post by yoda2169 on Oct 27, 2023 11:00:31 GMT 1
Think we do stay up under Moore but only because there’s 3 or 4 teams that are woeful. The worry is how we push on to achieve this 3 year plan to be competing at the top end. The only way is big investment in the squad which I doubt will happen. the only way we stay up is get rid of moore before its to late and do it before window open so new person has chance to bring in what he thinks we need |
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Post by harris on Oct 27, 2023 11:04:55 GMT 1
Think we do stay up under Moore but only because there’s 3 or 4 teams that are woeful. The worry is how we push on to achieve this 3 year plan to be competing at the top end. The only way is big investment in the squad which I doubt will happen. the only way we stay up is get rid of moore before its to late and do it before window open so new person has chance to bring in what he thinks we need As poor as the football has been under Moore, it’s not like we’ve lost his first 6. And we all know the squad is below par. I’d give him a chance with a bit of investment in January. We’d be in the exact same position under Warnock. |
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Post by detox on Oct 27, 2023 11:07:11 GMT 1
Getting rid of the most experienced manager in the country who saved us last season is the most crass, ridiculous and self harming decision I have witnessed in my 44 years watching Town. Obviously I want us to stay up but last night's performance is the worst I've seen since the Malcolm McDonald days back in the late 1980s. I have a feeling we'll be back in Div 3 in May. This new chairman gives me no confidence whatsoever. I'm not on Twitter but his postings there after the Norwich game were beyond puerile and utterly self defeating. Sadly I have to agree with every word of this. How many Championship quality players do we have on the books right now? Being generous I'd say no more than 3 or 4 which is nowhere near enough. Add to that we have an owner who seemingly is not prepared to spend money so the result of all this is inevitable. As for letting Warnock go, I never thought we could top the decision to sell Marcus Stewart 20+ years ago, but this one takes the biscuit. The most colossal own goal in our entire history. we have 'seasoned' players like pearson and Lees, Hogg who are no doubt frustrated by those around them...was it Pearson who was booed by the crowd for passing back to our keeper a couple of times as he waved his arms in frustration at those in front of him for not making any moves into space....? He was subbed at half time no doubt muttering to himself at the useless f*ckers we have in this team.. |
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Post by royrace on Oct 27, 2023 14:00:50 GMT 1
the only way we stay up is get rid of moore before its to late and do it before window open so new person has chance to bring in what he thinks we need As poor as the football has been under Moore, it’s not like we’ve lost his first 6. And we all know the squad is below par. I’d give him a chance with a bit of investment in January. We’d be in the exact same position under Warnock. We definitely wouldn't be in the same position with Warnock! Would have been a mid table finish at worst, maybe better with January signings. Then he'd handover a decent squad to the new guy and let him have pre season. That was presumably the original plan and the one that made sense. |
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Post by goodbet on Oct 27, 2023 14:04:06 GMT 1
the only way we stay up is get rid of moore before its to late and do it before window open so new person has chance to bring in what he thinks we need As poor as the football has been under Moore, it’s not like we’ve lost his first 6. And we all know the squad is below par. I’d give him a chance with a bit of investment in January. We’d be in the exact same position under Warnock. I believe that if we were still under Warnock we would have a few more points and look like a side that could potentially go somewhere. Looking where we are are heading we could well be a team looking to be caught up in another relegation fight and we will not be an attractive proposition for a championship quality player. We will probably have to settle for more young players than will need time to bed in and require develop time to bring up to championship level. |
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Post by harris on Oct 27, 2023 14:23:57 GMT 1
As poor as the football has been under Moore, it’s not like we’ve lost his first 6. And we all know the squad is below par. I’d give him a chance with a bit of investment in January. We’d be in the exact same position under Warnock. We definitely wouldn't be in the same position with Warnock! Would have been a mid table finish at worst, maybe better with January signings. Then he'd handover a decent squad to the new guy and let him have pre season. That was presumably the original plan and the one that made sense. As much as I love Warnock, and as much as I’ve been underwhelmed with Moore… we still lost games under Warnock, and played shite at times. It’s not like we were prime Barcelona. We’d be much in the same situation under Warnock right now in my opinion. You can’t say we’d definitely be mid-table. |
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Post by harris on Oct 27, 2023 14:26:34 GMT 1
As poor as the football has been under Moore, it’s not like we’ve lost his first 6. And we all know the squad is below par. I’d give him a chance with a bit of investment in January. We’d be in the exact same position under Warnock. I believe that if we were still under Warnock we would have a few more points and look like a side that could potentially go somewhere. Looking where we are are heading we could well be a team looking to be caught up in another relegation fight and we will not be an attractive proposition for a championship quality player. We will probably have to settle for more young players than will need time to bed in and require develop time to bring up to championship level. I think we were in for a relegation battle either way to be honest. Sounds like we weren’t an attractive proposition in the Summer under Warnock either. |
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Post by goodbet on Oct 27, 2023 15:56:22 GMT 1
I believe that if we were still under Warnock we would have a few more points and look like a side that could potentially go somewhere. Looking where we are are heading we could well be a team looking to be caught up in another relegation fight and we will not be an attractive proposition for a championship quality player. We will probably have to settle for more young players than will need time to bed in and require develop time to bring up to championship level. I think we were in for a relegation battle either way to be honest. S ounds like we weren’t an attractive proposition in the Summer under Warnock either. Maybe, but is sounded more of an excuse comming from those who were responsible for bringing the players in and failed. |
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Post by Lovechops on Oct 27, 2023 21:06:09 GMT 1
We’re only 6 pts off play offs 😁
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Oct 27, 2023 21:20:42 GMT 1
We’re only 6 pts off play offs 😁  Quite an amazing statistic considering how bad we've been playing with (2 games shy of) almost a third of the season gone. Is this division really as good as folk are making out? |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Oct 28, 2023 10:09:46 GMT 1
"Is relegation inevitable?"
No - 99 points still to play for.
At the risk of offending the original poster, what a stupid question to ask.
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Post by belizian on Oct 28, 2023 10:35:15 GMT 1
Looks like Wednesday will find it difficult to stay up now that they have been put under a registration embargo by the English Football League because of money owed to HM Revenue and Customs.
It means Wednesday cannot register any players without prior written consent. One down , just need another two.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 28, 2023 10:41:51 GMT 1
This thread epitomises the knee jerk supporter.
I’m ready for a season of anything as is the norm for Town.
If every club sacked their Mgr after an iffy run, they might as well introduce zero hours contracts for them.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 28, 2023 10:44:35 GMT 1
Looks like Wednesday will find it difficult to stay up now that they have been put under a registration embargo by the English Football League because of money owed to HM Revenue and Customs. It means Wednesday cannot register any players without prior written consent. One down , just need another two. So when Chansiri said he wasn’t investing any more, that included paying the HMRC? When you look at how their supporters must have felt after that last min winner, to where they are now. No sympathy with them of course, but proves how football can make hope turn to shite in record time… |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Oct 28, 2023 11:08:14 GMT 1
"Is relegation inevitable?" No - 99 points still to play for. At the risk of offending the original poster, what a stupid question to ask. No offence taken, forums are meant to have opinions. That wasn’t me saying it’s inevitable this year. If we miraculously made 5 perfect signings in January and managed to lure a manager who is tactically capable we could stay up. The reality for me is we will barely attract anyone give Moore too long and yeah if there are 3 worse than us this year will there be next who knows? One thing that is for sure is id say we are considerably closer to league one than even a top half finish (which our owner believed we could achieve). If he thinks putting season ticket prices up (to watch this brand of football) or increasing the amount of money people spend on burgers or beers is going to get more fans in. That’s maybe where the problems lies. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Oct 28, 2023 11:10:47 GMT 1
This thread epitomises the knee jerk supporter. I’m ready for a season of anything as is the norm for Town. If every club sacked their Mgr after an iffy run, they might as well introduce zero hours contracts for them. How is it knee jerk? Staying up last year was a miracle and then we replaced the only person who seems capable of getting a response out of this inadequate squad. It’s actually just stating the obvious that we have a big problem. It was a bad appointment from day 1, if you watch football you will understand Darren Moore’s sides don’t play attacking football. Yet the guy who employed him promised it, does that not concern you? |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 28, 2023 11:14:51 GMT 1
This thread epitomises the knee jerk supporter. I’m ready for a season of anything as is the norm for Town. If every club sacked their Mgr after an iffy run, they might as well introduce zero hours contracts for them. How is it knee jerk? Staying up last year was a miracle and then we replaced the only person who seems capable of getting a response out of this inadequate squad. It’s actually just stating the obvious that we have a big problem. It was a bad appointment from day 1, if you watch football you will understand Darren Moore’s sides don’t play attacking football. Yet the guy who employed him promised it, does that not concern you? I don’t know if Darren Moore is the answer, I’ve not really followed his career or mgmt style, I leave that up to the experts like yourself. Albeit in L1, lord knows how many goals they would have scored last season if he’d have employed an attacking style? |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Oct 28, 2023 11:44:42 GMT 1
How is it knee jerk? Staying up last year was a miracle and then we replaced the only person who seems capable of getting a response out of this inadequate squad. It’s actually just stating the obvious that we have a big problem. It was a bad appointment from day 1, if you watch football you will understand Darren Moore’s sides don’t play attacking football. Yet the guy who employed him promised it, does that not concern you? I don’t know if Darren Moore is the answer, I’ve not really followed his career or mgmt style, I leave that up to the experts like yourself. Albeit in L1, lord knows how many goals they would have scored last season if he’d have employed an attacking style? In league one, long ball hoof tactics work well when you’ve got the players capable of putting the ball in the box like Bannan or knocking it out wide for those to fire in. They had smith and Gregory up front two players ideal for that scenario. It’s effective hoof ball at that level but not attacking nice to watch. Also Sheffield Wednesday budget was 15x that of forest green so it wasn’t exactly incredible what he did either. I’d love it to work for Moore as he seems a very good person in and out of football. But unfortunately it’s a results based business. |
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 28, 2023 12:00:41 GMT 1
I don’t know if Darren Moore is the answer, I’ve not really followed his career or mgmt style, I leave that up to the experts like yourself. Albeit in L1, lord knows how many goals they would have scored last season if he’d have employed an attacking style? In league one, long ball hoof tactics work well when you’ve got the players capable of putting the ball in the box like Bannan or knocking it out wide for those to fire in. They had smith and Gregory up front two players ideal for that scenario. It’s effective hoof ball at that level but not attacking nice to watch. Also Sheffield Wednesday budget was 15x that of forest green so it wasn’t exactly incredible what he did either. I’d love it to work for Moore as he seems a very good person in and out of football. But unfortunately it’s a results based business. Funny you mention Forest Green, as I went to that match last season and saw a rare FGR win (possibly Big Dunc’s only victory). Wednesday were awful, Bannan slightly off it so they had nothing at all. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Oct 28, 2023 12:12:35 GMT 1
This thread epitomises the knee jerk supporter. I’m ready for a season of anything as is the norm for Town. If every club sacked their Mgr after an iffy run, they might as well introduce zero hours contracts for them. How is it knee jerk? Staying up last year was a miracle and then we replaced the only person who seems capable of getting a response out of this inadequate squad. It’s actually just stating the obvious that we have a big problem. It was a bad appointment from day 1, if you watch football you will understand Darren Moore’s sides don’t play attacking football. Yet the guy who employed him promised it, does that not concern you? Knee jerk as in calling for the head of the Manager after 6 games. Feck me, even most companies that employ numpties give them at best 6 months to prove they can do the job. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Oct 28, 2023 14:33:51 GMT 1
Mad that 104 people voted no.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Oct 28, 2023 14:50:45 GMT 1
How is it knee jerk? Staying up last year was a miracle and then we replaced the only person who seems capable of getting a response out of this inadequate squad. It’s actually just stating the obvious that we have a big problem. It was a bad appointment from day 1, if you watch football you will understand Darren Moore’s sides don’t play attacking football. Yet the guy who employed him promised it, does that not concern you? Knee jerk as in calling for the head of the Manager after 6 games. Feck me, even most companies that employ numpties give them at best 6 months to prove they can do the job. Have you actually seen the decline on the pitch? Regardless of results pre and post Warnock I don’t remember ever seeing such decline |
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Quite an amazing statistic considering how bad we've been playing with (2 games shy of) almost a third of the season gone. Is this division really as good as folk are making out? 
