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Post by jqhtfc on Dec 30, 2023 12:39:48 GMT 1
Although we may look to cash in on yuta this window given his contract situation I genuinely wouldn’t, think he’s been a very big part in the up turn of performance last two games, he’s the only one in the back line who’s very good on the ball his ability the pass the ball through the lines into centre midfield has been vital.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Dec 30, 2023 13:07:49 GMT 1
If anyone at Town wants to let Nakayama go I would imagine they need to watch last night’s game again. With two short lads up front, we needed Yuta to build from the back. It has taken us 18 months to work out where to use him, sod selling him, get him a new deal.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Dec 30, 2023 13:09:38 GMT 1
Nakayama is too slow. Results in some good chances for the opposition in every game he plays. Being able to pass doesn't really make up for that
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Post by houllierspal on Dec 30, 2023 13:18:49 GMT 1
Would any of the PL teams really want to loan their young prima-donnas into a relegation scrap?
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Dec 30, 2023 13:29:01 GMT 1
I’ve seen plenty of L2 games this season but none in L1 and I can honestly say there’s not been one player that has caught my eye and thought could be a good signing for Town. Tolaj and Stokes looked OK the one time I saw them play and apparently are having great seasons with Aldershot.
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Post by castlehillterrier on Dec 30, 2023 13:37:38 GMT 1
Told we have agreements in place for two loan signings and both are expected to complete very early in January, one is a loan with a view to purchase in the summer very much like DB's deal, the other is a premier league loan who we should have got in the summer but was rejected by the management team at the time.
Expecting the below.
Diarra to leave as wont sign and extension.
Rhodes to be recalled and may go back to Blackpool later in January if we get our targets in.
Spencer to be recalled
Edwards to be sent back (told he is actually already back at Stoke)
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 30, 2023 13:40:58 GMT 1
Valid point, and not one that I suspect many had thought of. As things stand: Nicholls Maxwell Chapman REG Ruffels Pearson Helik Headley EdwardsTurton Jackson Lees Yuta Hogg Rudoni Koroma Sorba Kasumu Wiles Austerfield Burgzorg Ward Hudlin That's 23 players (the others are U21 so don't count towards the total). Assuming that we send Edwards back to Stoke that still only leaves space for 3 coming in unless we get rid of someone on that list. Seems so odd to say that when our squad looks so thin It's thin up top, of course and Harratt was 21 in June so does he count? I'd assumed not, but TBF I'm not sure what the exact date is for the cut-off. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Dec 30, 2023 13:54:51 GMT 1
Think we’d be better off keeping Spencer in Scotland for the year. Don’t think he’s defensively good enough for us yet.
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Post by Terriersmad on Dec 30, 2023 14:04:22 GMT 1
Valid point, and not one that I suspect many had thought of. As things stand: Nicholls Maxwell Chapman REG Ruffels Pearson Helik Headley EdwardsTurton Jackson Lees Yuta Hogg Rudoni Koroma Sorba Kasumu Wiles Austerfield Burgzorg Ward Hudlin That's 23 players (the others are U21 so don't count towards the total). Assuming that we send Edwards back to Stoke that still only leaves space for 3 coming in unless we get rid of someone on that list. Seems so odd to say that when our squad looks so thin Three players could be significant if they are the right players. Equally, if we're looking at Premier League loans, they would be under 21, more likely than not, and wouldn't affect that. If we bring in the right players, I'd be looking to move Austerfield on permanently this window and Hudlin on loan, maybe with a view to a permanent. I don't think the former is going to make the breakthrough. Neither, for my money, is the latter, but he does need to be given chances to develop at the right level. That gives us two more spots for more experienced players. |
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Post by Tinpot on Dec 30, 2023 14:12:46 GMT 1
Valid point, and not one that I suspect many had thought of. As things stand: Nicholls Maxwell Chapman REG Ruffels Pearson Helik Headley EdwardsTurton Jackson Lees Yuta Hogg Rudoni Koroma Sorba Kasumu Wiles Austerfield Burgzorg Ward Hudlin That's 23 players (the others are U21 so don't count towards the total). Assuming that we send Edwards back to Stoke that still only leaves space for 3 coming in unless we get rid of someone on that list. Seems so odd to say that when our squad looks so thin Three players could be significant if they are the right players. Equally, if we're looking at Premier League loans, they would be under 21, more likely than not, and wouldn't affect that. If we bring in the right players, I'd be looking to move Austerfield on permanently this window and Hudlin on loan, maybe with a view to a permanent. I don't think the former is going to make the breakthrough. Neither, for my money, is the latter, but he does need to be given chances to develop at the right level. That gives us two more spots for more experienced players. My understanding is that U21 players don't count if they're registered to you, but they do if they're on loan. So a 20 year old from our B team wouldn't count towards the numbers, but a 19 year old on loan from (say) Chelsea would. |
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Post by prepare on Dec 30, 2023 14:35:35 GMT 1
Think this is worth a new thread. Everyone seems to be banging on about limping to January and then seeing if we can/will invest. Who are these players that are going to come in during January and transform our season? Where are they coming from? Seems to me like a lot of eggs being placed in one very large basket. Anyone decent at Championship level won’t be coming here. So that leaves us with Premier League loans, unknown (not saying that means they’re not good enough) players from abroad being parachuted into a poor team, or punts on high-performing players from L1 or L2 (are there any? Would they be sold in Jan? Would they want to come? Could they make an immediate impact?). I’ve gone from being a bit nervous about the season in August to last year’s level of concern in a month and a half. Quite incredible how we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot. Struggling to see how this has a happy ending for us right now which is incredible given the high we experienced at end of last season. Very frustrating and, from the outside looking in, an entirely self-inflicted position to have put ourselves in again. |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 30, 2023 14:36:58 GMT 1
Any rumours at all ? seems really quiet.
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Post by prepare on Dec 30, 2023 14:42:08 GMT 1
Think this is worth a new thread. Everyone seems to be banging on about limping to January and then seeing if we can/will invest. Who are these players that are going to come in during January and transform our season? Where are they coming from? Seems to me like a lot of eggs being placed in one very large basket. Anyone decent at Championship level won’t be coming here. So that leaves us with Premier League loans, unknown (not saying that means they’re not good enough) players from abroad being parachuted into a poor team, or punts on high-performing players from L1 or L2 (are there any? Would they be sold in Jan? Would they want to come? Could they make an immediate impact?). I’ve gone from being a bit nervous about the season will havin August to last year’s level of concern in a month and a halfe. Quite incredible how we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot. Struggling to see how this has a happy ending for us right now which is incredible given the high we experienced at end of last season. Very frustrating and, from the outside looking in, an entirely self-inflicted position to have put ourselves in again. with so many injured town will have little space for signings as no one will take injured players apart from us!! I expect three in at the most unless we get a offer we can’t refuse for one of ours utt |
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Post by midge on Dec 30, 2023 15:00:37 GMT 1
I would keep the keepers, get shut of Edwards Turton and Yuta from the defence. I would get shut of Hogg, loan Wiles, Austerfield and Rudoni out to L1 teams. I never thought I would say this but Danny Ward is past his best and has to go along with Hudlin. That’s 9 gaps that need filling. Rudoni ? and although Hogg doesn't tick all my boxes I'd keep him and play him in a limited role in front of back 4 unless we can bring in 2 midfielders who can actually influence games.. otherwise agree with rest ..time to cut our losses on players who are simply too inconsistent...naming here Koroma, Diarra, Thomas who can all show promise but not often enough for me...we simoly can't afford to keep players who only 'show' every now and then.. Thomas!? Wow!! Whilst some of his delivery/ general play has been a little inconsistent, it's still far better than a lot we have got - In fact, I think I saw something saying he has the most accurate crossing on the whole league! In terms of his effort which has been questioned before that has not been inconsistent! In fact been consistently excellent! |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 30, 2023 15:14:47 GMT 1
I’d be tempted to bring Brodie Spencer back for the month and see how he does in and around the squad. See if He looks Championship ready. If not, see if we can get him out to a L1 club.
If he is looking ready that would be brilliant. And i guess you never know when a lad is gonna be first team ready. 12 months ago i wouldn’t believe Headley was going to become a first team regular this season
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Post by rockwall on Dec 30, 2023 15:41:22 GMT 1
If anyone at Town wants to let Nakayama go I would imagine they need to watch last night’s game again. With two short lads up front, we needed Yuta to build from the back. It has taken us 18 months to work out where to use him, sod selling him, get him a new deal. Highly doubt he will sign a new deal given how poor as a club we have been since he arrived. He will also be wanting a consistent place in the Japan squad. Doubt that will happen here. With his contract being up at the end of the season, we should cash in while we can. If by any chance he was happy and willing to sign a new deal, then we should do it; but I personally feel he will go back abroad. |
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Post by crux on Dec 30, 2023 15:45:08 GMT 1
I’d be tempted to bring Brodie Spencer back for the month and see how he does in and around the squad. See if He looks Championship ready. If not, see if we can get him out to a L1 club. If he is looking ready that would be brilliant. And i guess you never know when a lad is gonna be first team ready. 12 months ago i wouldn’t believe Headley was going to become a first team regular this season He played for us in the League Cup game, so I'm not sure he can play for anyone else this season? That said, I'd still bring him back to look at him and he can always go back to Motherwell if we don't think he's quite ready yet. |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 30, 2023 17:22:03 GMT 1
I’d be tempted to bring Brodie Spencer back for the month and see how he does in and around the squad. See if He looks Championship ready. If not, see if we can get him out to a L1 club. If he is looking ready that would be brilliant. And i guess you never know when a lad is gonna be first team ready. 12 months ago i wouldn’t believe Headley was going to become a first team regular this season He played for us in the League Cup game, so I'm not sure he can play for anyone else this season? That said, I'd still bring him back to look at him and he can always go back to Motherwell if we don't think he's quite ready yet. Ah yes, that’s a good point. I guess a lot could depend on Motherwell then. He’s started pretty much every game for them and near enough played 90 mins most matches. They’re in a relegation battle, so if we recall him, they’ll most likely try and replace him. Would they be prepared to wait whilst we make our mind up? Possibly not. If we bring him back and then decide he’s not good enough, he then doesn’t play and it’s a missed opportunity for him to continue his development by playing tough one… |
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Post by crux on Dec 30, 2023 18:17:24 GMT 1
He played for us in the League Cup game, so I'm not sure he can play for anyone else this season? That said, I'd still bring him back to look at him and he can always go back to Motherwell if we don't think he's quite ready yet. Ah yes, that’s a good point. I guess a lot could depend on Motherwell then. He’s started pretty much every game for them and near enough played 90 mins most matches. They’re in a relegation battle, so if we recall him, they’ll most likely try and replace him. Would they be prepared to wait whilst we make our mind up? Possibly not. If we bring him back and then decide he’s not good enough, he then doesn’t play and it’s a missed opportunity for him to continue his development by playing tough one… Just had a quick look and it appears the they have a mid season break in Scotland. Motherwell play on January 2nd and then don't have a league game until 27th, with a home cup tie against Alloa on 20th January. We could borrow our own player back for a couple of games to try him out 🤣🤣 |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 30, 2023 18:42:28 GMT 1
Ah yes, that’s a good point. I guess a lot could depend on Motherwell then. He’s started pretty much every game for them and near enough played 90 mins most matches. They’re in a relegation battle, so if we recall him, they’ll most likely try and replace him. Would they be prepared to wait whilst we make our mind up? Possibly not. If we bring him back and then decide he’s not good enough, he then doesn’t play and it’s a missed opportunity for him to continue his development by playing tough one… Just had a quick look and it appears the they have a mid season break in Scotland. Motherwell play on January 2nd and then don't have a league game until 27th, with a home cup tie against Alloa on 20th January. We could borrow our own player back for a couple of games to try him out 🤣🤣 Oh right, that’s quite handy then. I’m pretty sure he’ll come and train with us during that period then. Works out pretty well does that. I bet that was part of the reason they sent him up to scotland. Play till the break, come back to us for a couple of weeks training with the first team and then we can decide if we use him or he continues his loan Love the idea of borrowing our own player 😂😂😂😂😂👍⚽️ |
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Post by NewMill Terrier on Dec 30, 2023 20:07:31 GMT 1
Any rumours at all ? seems really quiet. Geldhart |
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Post by rockwall on Dec 30, 2023 20:12:46 GMT 1
Any rumours at all ? seems really quiet. Geldhart Is this a deal close to early Jan or in prep for end of window? |
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Post by NewMill Terrier on Dec 30, 2023 20:33:35 GMT 1
Just an option being explored, so I've been told 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 30, 2023 20:36:20 GMT 1
Just an option being explored, so I've been told 🤷🏻♂️ anything close to happening mate? that you have hard. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 30, 2023 20:48:35 GMT 1
Just an option being explored, so I've been told 🤷🏻♂️ anything close to happening mate? that you have hard. 😳 |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 30, 2023 21:03:20 GMT 1
anything close to happening mate? that you have hard. 😳 I know wishful thinking, but the quicker we get players in the better you would say. |
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Post by 2ellandback on Dec 30, 2023 21:14:54 GMT 1
Valid point, and not one that I suspect many had thought of. As things stand: Nicholls Maxwell Chapman REG Ruffels Pearson Helik Headley EdwardsTurton Jackson Lees Yuta Hogg Rudoni Koroma Sorba Kasumu Wiles Austerfield Burgzorg Ward Hudlin That's 23 players (the others are U21 so don't count towards the total). Assuming that we send Edwards back to Stoke that still only leaves space for 3 coming in unless we get rid of someone on that list. Seems so odd to say that when our squad looks so thin I would keep the keepers, get shut of Edwards Turton and Yuta from the defence. I would get shut of Hogg, loan Wiles, Austerfield and Rudoni out to L1 teams. I never thought I would say this but Danny Ward is past his best and has to go along with Hudlin. That’s 9 gaps |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 30, 2023 21:15:50 GMT 1
I know wishful thinking, but the quicker we get players in the better you would say. Just read your previous post again 😂 |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 30, 2023 21:18:09 GMT 1
I know wishful thinking, but the quicker we get players in the better you would say. Just read your previous post again 😂 o for god sake , just re read it hard.... heard i meant lol . |
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