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Post by incognito on Dec 19, 2023 14:46:48 GMT 1
Spent 4 hours in Sheffield A&E last night, after my lad got injured playing for Sheff United. For a bit of it I was chatting to a Wednesday fan . The big thing from him was that DM had no plan B for when it was going wrong in matches......I think we've all seen that as well. He, the Wednesday fan, was very very confident that they would now get out of trouble, with their new manager. Word for word the text message I received from my Wednesdayite mate about three hours before Collin Quaner ruined their club :) |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 19, 2023 15:00:29 GMT 1
I think if castlehill reads what Maynardblue has said, regarding Moore and what the players actually think of the situation. Then what i have heard is very much backed up regarding Moore and this "methods" or lack of them or bizzare ones at that.
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Post by bblueterrier on Dec 19, 2023 15:19:15 GMT 1
Training for today was wrapped up by 2pm. You would think a free week is a great time on the training pitch to "implement his methods"...
Under Wagner the players didn't leave the training ground till 6pm a lot of the time.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 19, 2023 15:19:50 GMT 1
Castlehill, can you explain why our most in the know poster would say the opposite of you?
Regardless of how those at the top feel, the players think the manager is a joke. Surely a sacking should be imminent?
It really is insulting to us 'the fans' now.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Dec 19, 2023 15:29:59 GMT 1
Training for today was wrapped up by 2pm. You would think a free week is a great time on the training pitch to "implement his methods"... Under Wagner the players didn't leave the training ground till 6pm a lot of the time. Well if nothing else the Canalside groundsman will be delighted with Darren Moore. Easiest job in the world. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Dec 19, 2023 15:40:22 GMT 1
Training for today was wrapped up by 2pm. You would think a free week is a great time on the training pitch to "implement his methods"... Under Wagner the players didn't leave the training ground till 6pm a lot of the time. I mean there's only so many times you can practice 10% possession with hoof ball before the players get the idea. In seriousness when you're under the pump and struggling for results, what's the thought process behind this? Does he want to be sacked. |
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Post by 2ellandback on Dec 19, 2023 15:55:47 GMT 1
My inner cynic, never far from the surface, predicts a mediocre January window and Moore sacked in the first 10 days of February. Followed by a posting on the Town website “we were fully behind Darren and have always backed him. However, it has become apparent that it was not working here so we have mutually agreed that he will leave his post. He goes with our best wishes and our thanks for his work here. His coaching team will also be leaving. Our search for the next manager starts now. We will not rush into choosing the next manager until we get the right person for the job. It is vital that we have the right manager who can take this great club forward. Until then Jonathan Worthington will be taking training and picking the team.” Four weeks later when Town are four points adrift of 23rd place and eight points from safety Neil Warnock is announced as manager until the end of the season. Thus becoming the first manager to be paid two salaries for doing the same job at the same club. Only joking, of course, I think. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Dec 19, 2023 16:24:42 GMT 1
Training for today was wrapped up by 2pm. You would think a free week is a great time on the training pitch to "implement his methods"... Under Wagner the players didn't leave the training ground till 6pm a lot of the time. The players would not even be training today under NW !! DW brought a complete professionalism and German way to the role, the players that got on board understood why and those players over acheieved the ones that didnt left the club quickly and did not play, DM brings more time on the training pitch than NW did and a more British approach. I would love DW or that type back at the club, however when DM was appointed it was not the correct time, the squad is small lots of injuries, we can not afford to have players not wanting to play because they couldnt pick there kids up from School as they did before (JV!) we need to find a balance on this. Right now they players are training a lot more than under NW and in general the mood is good between coaches and players, certainly far better than this time last year when the manager was hated by the majority of players. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Dec 19, 2023 16:27:24 GMT 1
Training for today was wrapped up by 2pm. You would think a free week is a great time on the training pitch to "implement his methods"... Under Wagner the players didn't leave the training ground till 6pm a lot of the time. The players would not even be training today under NW !! DW brought a complete professionalism and German way to the role, the players that got on board understood why and those players over acheieved the ones that didnt left the club quickly and did not play, DM brings more time on the training pitch than NW did and a more British approach. I would love DW or that type back at the club, however when DM was appointed it was not the correct time, the squad is small lots of injuries, we can not afford to have players not wanting to play because they couldnt pick there kids up from School as they did before (JV!) we need to find a balance on this. Right now they players are training a lot more than under NW and in general the mood is good between coaches and players, certainly far better than this time last year when the manager was hated by the majority of players. They might not be training but they’d have a hell of a better chance of winning. Your defence of DM/his approach is getting embarrassing at this point, just move on. |
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Post by rockwall on Dec 19, 2023 16:30:04 GMT 1
Training for today was wrapped up by 2pm. You would think a free week is a great time on the training pitch to "implement his methods"... Under Wagner the players didn't leave the training ground till 6pm a lot of the time. The players would not even be training today under NW !! DW brought a complete professionalism and German way to the role, the players that got on board understood why and those players over acheieved the ones that didnt left the club quickly and did not play, DM brings more time on the training pitch than NW did and a more British approach. I would love DW or that type back at the club, however when DM was appointed it was not the correct time, the squad is small lots of injuries, we can not afford to have players not wanting to play because they couldnt pick there kids up from School as they did before (JV!) we need to find a balance on this. Right now they players are training a lot more than under NW and in general the mood is good between coaches and players, certainly far better than this time last year when the manager was hated by the majority of players. But the players think he is a laughing stock.... Cartwright, Edwards etc need to realise they have fucked up and ADVISE KN to get rid. It is very insulting to the fans, who pay their hard earned money, to be told everything is fine etc when it isn't. I will always support the club, but it's bloody difficult right now with a manager that has zero respect from the players and fans. Especially when I was in a minority to begin with and got fully behind him! |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Dec 19, 2023 16:37:55 GMT 1
Castlehill, can you explain why our most in the know poster would say the opposite of you? Regardless of how those at the top feel, the players think the manager is a joke. Surely a sacking should be imminent? It really is insulting to us 'the fans' now. Look Maynard has always in the past found out a lot of information, unfortunatly Maynard doesnt have the same links to the club any longer I am pretty sure Maynard will admit this and many comments now will be more Maynards own opionion (which is of course welcome). There will be no sacking any time soon, if we are not doing better by mid / late February then this might change but currently DM has the full support of the key people at the club and currently has a great support from the players, I am sure there are some parts of training the players dont like and moan about this is the same with all managers. Under DW some players moaned about the long hours and difficult training and endless meetings, these players soon left the club. some loved it, many thrived on it. Under NW some players moaned about the lack of training, and many days off. some players moaned about not getting any games time despite obvious abilty, JR from day 1 knew he would not play a role or much of under NW for example some players loved the lack of training and days off Under DM some players will love it, look at ST as an example he has improved his work rate under DM and you can tell he wants to do well for the manager (and himself) others have also stepped up under DM. some players moan about training because they are not confortable with it. Under MF Every single player hated ever single minute of training, it was an awful atmosphere at the club. There is nothing new here, I must admit the general mood around the training ground is one of positivity and lots of happy faces daily, many more arguments under NW than currently and many many many more arguments under MF than anyone ever ! The time of the Cowleys was one of the best training ground atmospheres the players loved working with them it was a great atmosphere at this time. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Dec 19, 2023 16:39:58 GMT 1
The players would not even be training today under NW !! DW brought a complete professionalism and German way to the role, the players that got on board understood why and those players over acheieved the ones that didnt left the club quickly and did not play, DM brings more time on the training pitch than NW did and a more British approach. I would love DW or that type back at the club, however when DM was appointed it was not the correct time, the squad is small lots of injuries, we can not afford to have players not wanting to play because they couldnt pick there kids up from School as they did before (JV!) we need to find a balance on this. Right now they players are training a lot more than under NW and in general the mood is good between coaches and players, certainly far better than this time last year when the manager was hated by the majority of players. But the players think he is a laughing stock.... Cartwright, Edwards etc need to realise they have fucked up and ADVISE KN to get rid. It is very insulting to the fans, who pay their hard earned money, to be told everything is fine etc when it isn't. I will always support the club, but it's bloody difficult right now with a manager that has zero respect from the players and fans. Especially when I was in a minority to begin with and got fully behind him! But the players think he is a laughing stock.... This really is not the case, just something that has come from a few people hearing some stories. |
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Post by runner76 on Dec 19, 2023 16:45:19 GMT 1
Right. He is here until after the window. Let's put to bed any 'Moore Out' and get behind him 100%
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Post by rockwall on Dec 19, 2023 16:45:41 GMT 1
Castlehill, can you explain why our most in the know poster would say the opposite of you? Regardless of how those at the top feel, the players think the manager is a joke. Surely a sacking should be imminent? It really is insulting to us 'the fans' now. Look Maynard has always in the past found out a lot of information, unfortunatly Maynard doesnt have the same links to the club any longer I am pretty sure Maynard will admit this and many comments now will be more Maynards own opionion (which is of course welcome). There will be no sacking any time soon, if we are not doing better by mid / late February then this might change but currently DM has the full support of the key people at the club and currently has a great support from the players, I am sure there are some parts of training the players dont like and moan about this is the same with all managers. Under DW some players moaned about the long hours and difficult training and endless meetings, these players soon left the club. some loved it, many thrived on it. Under NW some players moaned about the lack of training, and many days off. some players moaned about not getting any games time despite obvious abilty, JR from day 1 knew he would not play a role or much of under NW for example some players loved the lack of training and days off Under DM some players will love it, look at ST as an example he has improved his work rate under DM and you can tell he wants to do well for the manager (and himself) others have also stepped up under DM. some players moan about training because they are not confortable with it. Under MF Every single player hated ever single minute of training, it was an awful atmosphere at the club. There is nothing new here, I must admit the general mood around the training ground is one of positivity and lots of happy faces daily, many more arguments under NW than currently and many many many more arguments under MF than anyone ever ! The time of the Cowleys was one of the best training ground atmospheres the players loved working with them it was a great atmosphere at this time. But we are absolutely bored. Moore is boring. His football is boring. The whole mood absolutely reeks of boredom. Can you explain this shadow football? What is it improving? Can you explain why, if results haven't changed by Feb they may sack him? That would mean he has spent and got in his own players and we would be back to square one. Personally, everything that is coming out is leading to Moore spending whatever budget we have and the inevitable will happen. So why not get rid now and bring someone in who won't be stuck with yet again, none of their own players? We are just going through the same cycles. I was very very excited by the new ownership etc. Now, it seems like we are not taken seriously. Does the club really feel they will sell Season Tickets next season? We have had it really good, but I would pay the £250 to watch this. It is an entertainment business. Yet entertainment seems to be bottom.of the priority pile. |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Dec 19, 2023 16:57:04 GMT 1
Look Maynard has always in the past found out a lot of information, unfortunatly Maynard doesnt have the same links to the club any longer I am pretty sure Maynard will admit this and many comments now will be more Maynards own opionion (which is of course welcome). There will be no sacking any time soon, if we are not doing better by mid / late February then this might change but currently DM has the full support of the key people at the club and currently has a great support from the players, I am sure there are some parts of training the players dont like and moan about this is the same with all managers. Under DW some players moaned about the long hours and difficult training and endless meetings, these players soon left the club. some loved it, many thrived on it. Under NW some players moaned about the lack of training, and many days off. some players moaned about not getting any games time despite obvious abilty, JR from day 1 knew he would not play a role or much of under NW for example some players loved the lack of training and days off Under DM some players will love it, look at ST as an example he has improved his work rate under DM and you can tell he wants to do well for the manager (and himself) others have also stepped up under DM. some players moan about training because they are not confortable with it. Under MF Every single player hated ever single minute of training, it was an awful atmosphere at the club. There is nothing new here, I must admit the general mood around the training ground is one of positivity and lots of happy faces daily, many more arguments under NW than currently and many many many more arguments under MF than anyone ever ! The time of the Cowleys was one of the best training ground atmospheres the players loved working with them it was a great atmosphere at this time. But we are absolutely bored. Moore is boring. His football is boring. The whole mood absolutely reeks of boredom. Can you explain this shadow football? What is it improving? Can you explain why, if results haven't changed by Feb they may sack him? That would mean he has spent and got in his own players and we would be back to square one. Personally, everything that is coming out is leading to Moore spending whatever budget we have and the inevitable will happen. So why not get rid now and bring someone in who won't be stuck with yet again, none of their own players? We are just going through the same cycles. I was very very excited by the new ownership etc. Now, it seems like we are not taken seriously. Does the club really feel they will sell Season Tickets next season? We have had it really good, but I would pay the £250 to watch this. It is an entertainment business. Yet entertainment seems to be bottom.of the priority pile. I agree about it being boring, but boring is currently keeping us out of the drop zone, people dont seem to understand the injuries and key players missing from a really poor unbalanced squad, DM I am sure wants to play more on the front foot and be more entertaining but this needs to come in time with players back fit and some new bodies in the building, we are massivly missing a striker and this makes the team have to play differently to try and grind out results. I believe Darren will still be here at the end of this season and as long as we are a Championship team still, his job will be done, currently we have a good chance of staying up and a few new players will go a long way to make this happen. Entertainment will come in time the manager, the owner, the board all know this chopping and changing doesnt bring long term success. I hope it changes soon also in terms of entertainment, but I would rather we picked up some points than get stuffed every week even if it was more entertaining. To have both would be amazing but I am not sure that is possible currently. As for season ticket sales, this will be about the ambition showed between now and the end of the season with investment in playing staff, stadium etc, and an intent for next seaon and most importantly championship football. We will always sell season tickets even at a higher price, its up to KN and his team to justfy the higher pricing because they will have something better to watch moving forward, I am happy to give them some time to prove the ambition, sticking with DM has to be part of this for now. |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Dec 19, 2023 17:01:53 GMT 1
Give it up now mate ffs.
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Post by rockwall on Dec 19, 2023 17:06:05 GMT 1
But we are absolutely bored. Moore is boring. His football is boring. The whole mood absolutely reeks of boredom. Can you explain this shadow football? What is it improving? Can you explain why, if results haven't changed by Feb they may sack him? That would mean he has spent and got in his own players and we would be back to square one. Personally, everything that is coming out is leading to Moore spending whatever budget we have and the inevitable will happen. So why not get rid now and bring someone in who won't be stuck with yet again, none of their own players? We are just going through the same cycles. I was very very excited by the new ownership etc. Now, it seems like we are not taken seriously. Does the club really feel they will sell Season Tickets next season? We have had it really good, but I would pay the £250 to watch this. It is an entertainment business. Yet entertainment seems to be bottom.of the priority pile. I agree about it being boring, but boring is currently keeping us out of the drop zone, people dont seem to understand the injuries and key players missing from a really poor unbalanced squad, DM I am sure wants to play more on the front foot and be more entertaining but this needs to come in time with players back fit and some new bodies in the building, we are massivly missing a striker and this makes the team have to play differently to try and grind out results. I believe Darren will still be here at the end of this season and as long as we are a Championship team still, his job will be done, currently we have a good chance of staying up and a few new players will go a long way to make this happen. Entertainment will come in time the manager, the owner, the board all know this chopping and changing doesnt bring long term success. I hope it changes soon also in terms of entertainment, but I would rather we picked up some points than get stuffed every week even if it was more entertaining. To have both would be amazing but I am not sure that is possible currently. As for season ticket sales, this will be about the ambition showed between now and the end of the season with investment in playing staff, stadium etc, and an intent for next seaon and most importantly championship football. We will always sell season tickets even at a higher price, its up to KN and his team to justfy the higher pricing because they will have something better to watch moving forward, I am happy to give them some time to prove the ambition, sticking with DM has to be part of this for now. We are only out of the bottom 3 due to Sheff Wed, Rotherham and QPR being abysmal. But they will overtake us at some point as they are improving and we are not. To prove their ambition, they need to get rid. That's the bottom line. We keep banging on about the injury list, we have had all our attacking players back for 4 games. Nothing has changed. The unbeaten run of 5 has masked over the cracks. Everytime we show some intent we look much better. It isn't just the performances, DM and his line ups/ subs have been confusing. Whatever role you hold, I understand you have to back and defend your man, but deep down I am sure you know sometimes, the fans are actually correct. If serious money isn't spent in January or DM isnt sacked, then it will only end up one way. |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 19, 2023 17:06:46 GMT 1
Training for today was wrapped up by 2pm. You would think a free week is a great time on the training pitch to "implement his methods"... Under Wagner the players didn't leave the training ground till 6pm a lot of the time. And they can't have started until about 9:30 as I saw Helik driving through Cumberworth about 8:45ish. Breakfast, bit if training, lunch and maybe a video session.. Nice work if you can get it |
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Post by bells ringing :) on Dec 19, 2023 17:07:39 GMT 1
they want us to believe them over Maynard - someoen with a proven track record of knowing what is going on , but it so obvs there is something on the agenda regarding moore and the poster . Is it Moore himself or his mother or one of his children or something ? |
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Post by Maynardblue on Dec 19, 2023 17:11:24 GMT 1
Those 'opinions' that I relayed are those of 3 senior players on 3 separate occasions - not mine. Just for clarity.
It is true that they hated MF. They don't hate DM at all. They just don't think he's anywhere near good enough.
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Post by mosher on Dec 19, 2023 17:11:35 GMT 1
they want us to believe them over Maynard - someoen with a proven track record of knowing what is going on , but it so obvs there is something on the agenda regarding moore and the poster . Is it Moore himself or his mother or one of his children or something ? I like how they say Maynard isn't part of the club anymore. Does that give anyone a clue who they actually are? Not that I think castlehill knows what he's on about. |
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Post by Sparrow on Dec 19, 2023 17:15:40 GMT 1
Those 'opinions' that I relayed are those of 3 senior players on 3 separate occasions - not mine. Just for clarity. It is true that they hated MF. They don't hate DM at all. They just don't think he's anywhere near good enough. I'm gonna take a stab in the dark here. 2 Defenders and a Striker....... |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Dec 19, 2023 17:16:18 GMT 1
Castlehill, can you explain why our most in the know poster would say the opposite of you? Regardless of how those at the top feel, the players think the manager is a joke. Surely a sacking should be imminent? It really is insulting to us 'the fans' now. Look Maynard has always in the past found out a lot of information, unfortunatly Maynard doesnt have the same links to the club any longer I am pretty sure Maynard will admit this and many comments now will be more Maynards own opionion (which is of course welcome). There will be no sacking any time soon, if we are not doing better by mid / late February then this might change but currently DM has the full support of the key people at the club and currently has a great support from the players, I am sure there are some parts of training the players dont like and moan about this is the same with all managers. Under DW some players moaned about the long hours and difficult training and endless meetings, these players soon left the club. some loved it, many thrived on it. Under NW some players moaned about the lack of training, and many days off. some players moaned about not getting any games time despite obvious abilty, JR from day 1 knew he would not play a role or much of under NW for example some players loved the lack of training and days off Under DM some players will love it, look at ST as an example he has improved his work rate under DM and you can tell he wants to do well for the manager (and himself) others have also stepped up under DM. some players moan about training because they are not confortable with it. Under MF Every single player hated ever single minute of training, it was an awful atmosphere at the club. There is nothing new here, I must admit the general mood around the training ground is one of positivity and lots of happy faces daily, many more arguments under NW than currently and many many many more arguments under MF than anyone ever ! The time of the Cowleys was one of the best training ground atmospheres the players loved working with them it was a great atmosphere at this time. Yeah not sure who you are to judge what Maynard knows, they always have been and always will be the trusted source on here so keep your deluded opinions to yourself and just accept DM isn't going to work. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Dec 19, 2023 17:19:17 GMT 1
Those 'opinions' that I relayed are those of 3 senior players on 3 separate occasions - not mine. Just for clarity. It is true that they hated MF. They don't hate DM at all. They just don't think he's anywhere near good enough. I'm gonna take a stab in the dark here. 2 Defenders and a Striker....... It's goooood, but it's not right |
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Post by castlehillterrier on Dec 19, 2023 17:20:21 GMT 1
I agree about it being boring, but boring is currently keeping us out of the drop zone, people dont seem to understand the injuries and key players missing from a really poor unbalanced squad, DM I am sure wants to play more on the front foot and be more entertaining but this needs to come in time with players back fit and some new bodies in the building, we are massivly missing a striker and this makes the team have to play differently to try and grind out results. I believe Darren will still be here at the end of this season and as long as we are a Championship team still, his job will be done, currently we have a good chance of staying up and a few new players will go a long way to make this happen. Entertainment will come in time the manager, the owner, the board all know this chopping and changing doesnt bring long term success. I hope it changes soon also in terms of entertainment, but I would rather we picked up some points than get stuffed every week even if it was more entertaining. To have both would be amazing but I am not sure that is possible currently. As for season ticket sales, this will be about the ambition showed between now and the end of the season with investment in playing staff, stadium etc, and an intent for next seaon and most importantly championship football. We will always sell season tickets even at a higher price, its up to KN and his team to justfy the higher pricing because they will have something better to watch moving forward, I am happy to give them some time to prove the ambition, sticking with DM has to be part of this for now. We are only out of the bottom 3 due to Sheff Wed, Rotherham and QPR being abysmal. But they will overtake us at some point as they are improving and we are not. To prove their ambition, they need to get rid. That's the bottom line. We keep banging on about the injury list, we have had all our attacking players back for 4 games. Nothing has changed. The unbeaten run of 5 has masked over the cracks. Everytime we show some intent we look much better. It isn't just the performances, DM and his line ups/ subs have been confusing. Whatever role you hold, I understand you have to back and defend your man, but deep down I am sure you know sometimes, the fans are actually correct. If serious money isn't spent in January or DM isnt sacked, then it will only end up one way. form over last 6 when we have got a few players back is not too bad, performances in general have been awful but its about getting some results currently and keep the last 6 up we will be safe easily. We are tight at the moment and not giving a lot away which is why we are picking us some vital points. No reason that we cant get something from our next 3 home games the form of these teams is not a lot different to us. Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts BTTS Last 6 1 Leicester 6 5 1 0 15 6 9 16 4 WDWWWW 2 Ipswich 6 4 1 1 11 7 4 13 4 LWWWWD 3 Southampton 6 3 3 0 10 3 7 12 3 DWWDDW 4 Coventry 6 3 2 1 9 4 5 11 3 WWLWDD 5 Leeds 6 3 2 1 10 6 4 11 4 DWWWLD 6 Norwich 6 3 2 1 10 7 3 11 4 WLWdWD 7 Hull 6 3 1 2 12 8 4 10 4 DWLLWW 8 QPR 6 3 1 2 9 5 4 10 2 LWWWdL 9 Watford 6 3 1 2 12 9 3 10 5 LWWDLW 10 West Brom 6 3 1 2 8 5 3 10 3 WWLLWD 11 Sheff Wed 6 3 1 2 9 8 1 10 5 LDWWLW 12 Plymouth 6 3 1 2 7 8 -1 10 2 WLWLdW 13 Blackburn 6 3 0 3 10 12 -2 9 3 WWLLWL 14 Bristol City 6 2 1 3 7 8 -1 7 4 WLLDLW 15 Huddersfield 6 1 4 1 7 8 -1 7 6 DWDDLD
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Post by dezzly on Dec 19, 2023 17:22:58 GMT 1
Those 'opinions' that I relayed are those of 3 senior players on 3 separate occasions - not mine. Just for clarity. It is true that they hated MF. They don't hate DM at all. They just don't think he's anywhere near good enough. And that’s probably what keeps him in the job for now anyway.The fact that they despite maybe not been fully on board with his tactics/training etc that they probably actually like the bloke and are willing to keep putting the effort in. If he is tactically poor(and iv commented as much myself) just getting better players in and him cheerleading them on as such should improve us,problem being is most other clubs will improve too so it’s a risk. I’m a bit torn because keeping on changing managers doesn’t work long term does it we keep getting in the same situation and changing to save the season.Maybe on this occasion it’s about actually for once improving the squad to do that. It isn’t going to improve any time soon by the looks and especially with the next five games.Then important games in January before any players are up and running. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 19, 2023 17:37:03 GMT 1
Well done Darren, you've managed to get 20 votes 👍
Let's just ignore the other 290 that think you're utter shite 🤣
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Post by ColchTerrier on Dec 19, 2023 17:42:02 GMT 1
Well done Darren, you've managed to get 20 votes 👍 Let's just ignore the other 290 that think you're utter shite 🤣 .....290 and the players |
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Post by Niggled on Dec 19, 2023 17:44:38 GMT 1
We are only out of the bottom 3 due to Sheff Wed, Rotherham and QPR being abysmal. But they will overtake us at some point as they are improving and we are not. To prove their ambition, they need to get rid. That's the bottom line. We keep banging on about the injury list, we have had all our attacking players back for 4 games. Nothing has changed. The unbeaten run of 5 has masked over the cracks. Everytime we show some intent we look much better. It isn't just the performances, DM and his line ups/ subs have been confusing. Whatever role you hold, I understand you have to back and defend your man, but deep down I am sure you know sometimes, the fans are actually correct. If serious money isn't spent in January or DM isnt sacked, then it will only end up one way. form over last 6 when we have got a few players back is not too bad, performances in general have been awful but its about getting some results currently and keep the last 6 up we will be safe easily. We are tight at the moment and not giving a lot away which is why we are picking us some vital points. No reason that we cant get something from our next 3 home games the form of these teams is not a lot different to us. Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts BTTS Last 6 1 Leicester 6 5 1 0 15 6 9 16 4 WDWWWW 2 Ipswich 6 4 1 1 11 7 4 13 4 LWWWWD 3 Southampton 6 3 3 0 10 3 7 12 3 DWWDDW 4 Coventry 6 3 2 1 9 4 5 11 3 WWLWDD 5 Leeds 6 3 2 1 10 6 4 11 4 DWWWLD 6 Norwich 6 3 2 1 10 7 3 11 4 WLWdWD 7 Hull 6 3 1 2 12 8 4 10 4 DWLLWW 8 QPR 6 3 1 2 9 5 4 10 2 LWWWdL 9 Watford 6 3 1 2 12 9 3 10 5 LWWDLW 10 West Brom 6 3 1 2 8 5 3 10 3 WWLLWD 11 Sheff Wed 6 3 1 2 9 8 1 10 5 LDWWLW 12 Plymouth 6 3 1 2 7 8 -1 10 2 WLWLdW 13 Blackburn 6 3 0 3 10 12 -2 9 3 WWLLWL 14 Bristol City 6 2 1 3 7 8 -1 7 4 WLLDLW 15 Huddersfield 6 1 4 1 7 8 -1 7 6 DWDDLD
16 Sunderland 6 2 1 3 5 7 -2 7 3 LLDWWL 17 Birmingham 6 2 1 3 7 10 -3 7 3 WLdLWL 18 Middlesbrough 6 2 0 4 11 11 0 6 4 LWLLLW 19 Swansea 6 1 3 2 8 10 -2 6 6 DLDWDL 20 Cardiff 6 2 0 4 3 8 -5 6 1 WLLWLL 21 Preston 6 1 1 4 5 14 -9 4 3 LLLdWL 22 Millwall 6 0 2 4 5 12 -7 2 4 LLDLLD 23 Rotherham 6 0 2 4 5 12 -7 2 4 DLdLLL 24 Stoke 6 0 2 4 5 12 -7 2 4 LLLLDD Not a lot different to us  ?, You are an idiot.,. Have you any idea what the W, s stand for. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 19, 2023 17:48:35 GMT 1
We are only out of the bottom 3 due to Sheff Wed, Rotherham and QPR being abysmal. But they will overtake us at some point as they are improving and we are not. To prove their ambition, they need to get rid. That's the bottom line. We keep banging on about the injury list, we have had all our attacking players back for 4 games. Nothing has changed. The unbeaten run of 5 has masked over the cracks. Everytime we show some intent we look much better. It isn't just the performances, DM and his line ups/ subs have been confusing. Whatever role you hold, I understand you have to back and defend your man, but deep down I am sure you know sometimes, the fans are actually correct. If serious money isn't spent in January or DM isnt sacked, then it will only end up one way. form over last 6 when we have got a few players back is not too bad, performances in general have been awful but its about getting some results currently and keep the last 6 up we will be safe easily. We are tight at the moment and not giving a lot away which is why we are picking us some vital points. No reason that we cant get something from our next 3 home games the form of these teams is not a lot different to us. Pos Team P W D L F A GD Pts BTTS Last 6 1 Leicester 6 5 1 0 15 6 9 16 4 WDWWWW 2 Ipswich 6 4 1 1 11 7 4 13 4 LWWWWD 3 Southampton 6 3 3 0 10 3 7 12 3 DWWDDW 4 Coventry 6 3 2 1 9 4 5 11 3 WWLWDD 5 Leeds 6 3 2 1 10 6 4 11 4 DWWWLD 6 Norwich 6 3 2 1 10 7 3 11 4 WLWdWD 7 Hull 6 3 1 2 12 8 4 10 4 DWLLWW 8 QPR 6 3 1 2 9 5 4 10 2 LWWWdL 9 Watford 6 3 1 2 12 9 3 10 5 LWWDLW 10 West Brom 6 3 1 2 8 5 3 10 3 WWLLWD 11 Sheff Wed 6 3 1 2 9 8 1 10 5 LDWWLW 12 Plymouth 6 3 1 2 7 8 -1 10 2 WLWLdW 13 Blackburn 6 3 0 3 10 12 -2 9 3 WWLLWL 14 Bristol City 6 2 1 3 7 8 -1 7 4 WLLDLW 15 Huddersfield 6 1 4 1 7 8 -1 7 6 DWDDLD
16 Sunderland 6 2 1 3 5 7 -2 7 3 LLDWWL 17 Birmingham 6 2 1 3 7 10 -3 7 3 WLdLWL 18 Middlesbrough 6 2 0 4 11 11 0 6 4 LWLLLW 19 Swansea 6 1 3 2 8 10 -2 6 6 DLDWDL 20 Cardiff 6 2 0 4 3 8 -5 6 1 WLLWLL 21 Preston 6 1 1 4 5 14 -9 4 3 LLLdWL 22 Millwall 6 0 2 4 5 12 -7 2 4 LLDLLD 23 Rotherham 6 0 2 4 5 12 -7 2 4 DLdLLL 24 Stoke 6 0 2 4 5 12 -7 2 4 LLLLDD Yeah, erm, nearly identical form to us... 🤔🤨 |
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?, You are an idiot.,. Have you any idea what the W, s stand for.