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Post by heckyterrier66 on Sept 29, 2024 1:29:33 GMT 1
Wow I never realised we had so many tantrum throwing children on here. Things are certainly not going our way, but to see so much shite been spouted and intimidation thrown at KN and CD is quite embarrassing. Get a grip, grow up and get a bloody life.
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Post by wigster on Sept 29, 2024 1:43:46 GMT 1
CD, whilst you are on - could you just reassure us that the ground improvements are not in any way financed by the Rudoni money, and that the money laid out so far (for which we are, genuinely, grateful) is via Kevin and not just being added to the club's debt ?
Sorry to be cynical but that was the rumour amongst certain supporters. Thanks.
In an equally impertinent fashion - can I just ask - did the club have a, relatively, large sum of money (not millions and millions) to spend on incoming transfers, or were the free transfers, out of contract players we brought in our limit.Aren't we in credit in our transfer dealings ?
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Post by Justasmithers on Sept 29, 2024 1:49:53 GMT 1
CD, whilst you are on - could you just reassure us that the ground improvements are not in any way financed by the Rudoni money, and that the money laid out so far (for which we are, genuinely, grateful) is via Kevin and not just being added to the club's debt ? Sorry to be cynical but that was the rumour amongst certain supporters. Thanks. In an equally impertinent fashion - can I just ask - did the club have a, relatively, large sum of money (not millions and millions) to spend on incoming transfers, or were the free transfers, out of contract players we brought in our limit.Aren't we in credit in our transfer dealings ? thanks. I’ll never speak on specifics, and to the others- if getting on me makes losing even slightly less painful have at it. Whatever you’re feeling I promise I feel the same. As to your question- the most I’ll say is this: whether you agree or disagree, like this move or hate that move, I can only tell you in up every Saturday or Tuesday or whenever at some ungodly hour watching with the chairman. Every win, every loss, dominates our mood and our lives. I’ll never speak to decisions, strategy, whatever. I’ll leave that to the chairman. I’ll just say for what it’s worth, you have my word as a fan, a man, a father, whatever- he lives and dies for three points. |
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Post by wigster on Sept 29, 2024 2:05:59 GMT 1
Thanks for your prompt reply CD - it is appreciated, as is the effort that Mr Nagle and yourself are putting in.
This is not a question , as it would be rude of me to ask it, but I assume that Kevin Nagle does not just rely on what Mr Cartwright tells him as to how good/bad our transfer dealings have been.
In reality they have been as awful as Mr Cartwright's dealings were at his previous club. Go on their forum if you think I exaggerate.
Town fans generally are NOT "bed wetters" but they are ,mostly, knowledgeable passionate supporters who have been through all this for many many years.We are, often, worth listening to.
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Post by Justasmithers on Sept 29, 2024 2:20:32 GMT 1
Thanks for your prompt reply CD - it is appreciated, as is the effort that Mr Nagle and yourself are putting in. This is not a question , as it would be rude of me to ask it, but I assume that Kevin Nagle does not just rely on what Mr Cartwright tells him as to how good/bad our transfer dealings have been. In reality they have been as awful as Mr Cartwright's dealings were at his previous club. Go on their forum if you think I exaggerate. Town fans generally are NOT "bed wetters" but they are ,mostly, knowledgeable passionate supporters who have been through all this for many many years.We are, often, worth listening to. There are many many things one could question but I assure you it’s ALL listened to. Read, listened, all of it. More than you could ever know. |
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Post by wigster on Sept 29, 2024 2:34:18 GMT 1
Thanks CD.
On a brighter note, and I'm sure you're aware of it, the vast majority of Town fans are genuinely grateful for what KN is trying to do, and for your liaison through the media.Your posts/interviews are very much appreciated.
The aggressive, foul language posts you get are not representative and are a tiny minority.
My post today was prompted by my bitter disappointment at yet another defeat, in a lower division, and the fact that we've seen this type of kick in the teeth for most of the last ten years. You've had this for a relatively short time - we've had it for years.
It was hoped, and STILL is, that "your" involvement would be different, so (and I'll only get personal once) when we see how one person seems to have messed up the transfer dealings so catastrophically (and was even apparently re-interviewed for his job) and still rules the roost there is just a feeling of helplessness.
Genuinely - thanks for the support and help you are giving our club and let's hope things will improve.
All the best,
And so to bed.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Sept 29, 2024 3:17:09 GMT 1
Uh-oh had a few too many bitter shandys tonight have we? Think you might want pause and take breath before posting so much tripe in one go again. Always thought you’re a decent poster Sheriff but I would have bet the house Warnock would have had us mid-table relatively comfortably come the end of last season had he been allowed to carry on. Every decision by the club following their decision to remove Warnock & Ronnie have proved catastrophic and there’s been a catalogue of them. They have absolutely reaped what they sowed and the sad part is it was so unnecessary. We are where we are now and I reckon we will have a few seasons in League 1 to mull over the decisions that put us there. There's no denying whatsoever that it's been a catalogue of errors since Warnocks departure, but as I said, many are very conveniently forgetting just how poor in general the performances were under him at the start of last season, go back and watch the games again. While there's absolutely no guarantee that he would have kept us up (and that is a fact), I won't dispute that our chances with him at helm would have been greater than they were during the catastrophic remainder of the season following his departure. 'Comfortable mid table'?! Not a cat in hells chance, and that's owing more to the poor quality of the squad than it is Warnocks managerial prowess. |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Sept 29, 2024 7:13:35 GMT 1
Am I really reading “intimidation” “getting on me” ?
Give me a break, if people think this is intimidation and getting on someone they really do live in cuckoo land.
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 29, 2024 7:14:35 GMT 1
No team that spends months playing Kian Harratt and Kyle Hudlin up top is coming comfortably mid table in the championship. No matter whether the manager is Neil Warnock, Pep Guardiola or David fucking Copperfield.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Sept 29, 2024 7:41:07 GMT 1
No team that spends months playing Kian Harratt and Kyle Hudlin up top is coming comfortably mid table in the championship. No matter whether the manager is Neil Warnock, Pep Guardiola or David fucking Copperfield. When exactly did we spend months playing those two? I may be wrong but I recall them making a few sub appearances however I wouldn’t call that months of playing them? |
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Post by nicovaesen on Sept 29, 2024 7:43:11 GMT 1
Wow I never realised we had so many tantrum throwing children on here. Things are certainly not going our way, but to see so much shite been spouted and intimidation thrown at KN and CD is quite embarrassing. Get a grip, grow up and get a bloody life. I blame the fans |
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Post by dugnet on Sept 29, 2024 7:50:22 GMT 1
I am genuinely greatly heartened that the comments on here are read and digested. It demonstrates a desire to learn and get better, which cannot be denied.
I'm sure you'll have probably picked this up already but the real issue is the overall steady decline at HTAFC after what was our most successful spell for 45 years. A spell that generated circa £300m in revenue.
There are many examples of football clubs in England who enjoy success for a short period but struggle in subsequent years. Our hope, and we were told, that this "step change" would significantly help us (be better) for 10 years. That failed to materialise, miserably.
Mr Nagle is now custodian. I still believe in his intention to be successful at HTAFC. Last season was a culmination of the poor choices that went before Mr Nagle took us on. Could things have been better? Many fans will say yes, I'm also sure Mr Nagle is equally honest too. However to be fair that opinion maybe fostered from hindsight. Hindsight often gives clarity.
The current disappointment isn't that we have lost games of football per se, it is the manner in which we have lost those games. I could challenge MD on his formation and tactics (I would note that the players recruited don't necessarily look like they are ideally suited to how they are being asked to play) but the real issue is that the same mindset exists. There is no fresh personality or character shining through, the team look incoherent and rudderless on the pitch. I don't hold MD wholly responsible for this it is down to not recognising we needed leadership and personality as much as skill and ability.
I always try and be constructive but I am equally realistic. Currently this group look a long way off the promotion challengers Mr Nagle wanted. I have highlighted what I see from the stands but it is down to Mr Nagle and his management team to evaluate, be honest, and find solutions.
Unfortunately we play a team on Tuesday night who have real ambition. Moreover they have a momentum that is built on the support generated by the actions of their owners. It maybe unfair to make a direct comparison, noting their financial support of the team may create problems for them in the future (it equally may not, look at Ipswich), but it is a comparison that people will make.
In simple terms the fans are frustrated because they feel they are witnessing "more of the same" on the pitch (noting the work on the stadium has been very welcome). The delivery, on the pitch, is not matching the ambition. As fans we know what we are watching.
There are people who will let their frustration get the better of them and be unpleasant in their criticism. That is neither acceptable or helpful. There are people, many people, like me who aren't happy but express a view in a considered way. However the ones that I suggest you, collectively, need to worry about are the ones that are losing interest. That's the future of the club ebbing away.
I hope MD finds a way, I think he needs the opportunity to do so. As for the rest of the club perhaps this is a time for Nr Nagle to (I make this suggestion with upmost respect) reflect and evaluate. He's had 18 months of being our custodian. I'm sure he's learnt much, and continues to learn too. I don't doubt he wants to be successful. However he can't be content with progress to date. Moreover he can't be happy that his hard earned cash has not been used as well as it might (let's be honest mistakes cost money, money that could have been used better).
It is only 7 games in but the remaining 39 are not currently suggesting we will be celebrating in May 25. The bigger picture must be getting our club to a better place with everyone, or as many as possible on the same page. Ultimately that is the challenge and we have a long way to go.
Of course mine is only one view but I hope you find it as it is intended ie critical but considered.
Please keep absorbing and interacting as appropriate. We will get there together but the club needs to give us something to really believe in.
All the best.
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Post by Mastercracker on Sept 29, 2024 7:54:16 GMT 1
No team that spends months playing Kian Harratt and Kyle Hudlin up top is coming comfortably mid table in the championship. No matter whether the manager is Neil Warnock, Pep Guardiola or David fucking Copperfield. When exactly did we spend months playing those two? I may be wrong but I recall them making a few sub appearances however I wouldn’t call that months of playing them? I seem to remember them playing plenty at the start of Moore’s reign. Just looked Harratt started 6 games in that time. |
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Post by Larry David on Sept 29, 2024 7:55:33 GMT 1
Thanks for your prompt reply CD - it is appreciated, as is the effort that Mr Nagle and yourself are putting in. This is not a question , as it would be rude of me to ask it, but I assume that Kevin Nagle does not just rely on what Mr Cartwright tells him as to how good/bad our transfer dealings have been. In reality they have been as awful as Mr Cartwright's dealings were at his previous club. Go on their forum if you think I exaggerate. Town fans generally are NOT "bed wetters" but they are ,mostly, knowledgeable passionate supporters who have been through all this for many many years.We are, often, worth listening to. There are many many things one could question but I assure you it’s ALL listened to. Read, listened, all of it. More than you could ever know. What is the plan then to sort this mess out because in about a few weeks if this doesn't get better the fans will make it known by either Not attending because it's shite Finding something else to do on a Saturday Attending and being very vocal against your boss and the manager There appears to be a vacuum now. Dean wasn't perfect but he fronted up at fans forums. All I see from you are these ridiculous video diaries that make us out to be amazing, swell and all going great. It's rubbish mate. Apart from a lick of paint under the kilner bank I see no strategy to hit this mental 3 year plan...and whilst we are on that how is that going? The words you and Nagle spout are akin to calming down upset employees in a corporate environment. Don't think we are that....we are honest fans who want to see effort all over the pitch and honesty from the leaders, not blind optimism that borders on fantasy. Nagle needs to sort this out soon or it will be a real nightmare for him. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 29, 2024 7:59:45 GMT 1
Twitter, yet again, sets another low for people calling themselves Town fans. Read some comments for about 2 minutes and can’t tell if people are just on the wind up, serious mental health issues or small man syndrome. Some people aren’t cut out to type words on a screen without resorting to full on abuse, pretty sad really. Must live depressing lives.
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Sept 29, 2024 8:01:23 GMT 1
When exactly did we spend months playing those two? I may be wrong but I recall them making a few sub appearances however I wouldn’t call that months of playing them? I seem to remember them playing plenty at the start of Moore’s reign. Just looked Harratt started 6 games in that time. Fair do’s I couldn’t remember, not sure that qualifies as playing them both for months. I think the answer to why Harratt started 6 times lies in your post… Darren Moore |
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Post by royrace on Sept 29, 2024 8:06:15 GMT 1
You're the one in cloud cuckoo land coming out with utter bollocks like that. Jeez give me one single shred of evidence to suggest that NW wouldn't have very comfortably kept us in the division. I'd have put my house on it. You're as puddled as the fuckwits paid to make the big decisions coming out with shite like that. Next you'll be telling us big Daz was the right man to take us to the premier league but he didn't get the run of the green. Anyone saying we were in a mess before KN is missing the point. There are levels of mess and right now it could take us many years, maybe decades, to get back to that level of mess we were in pre Kevin Nagle. That's an irrefutable fact I'm afraid. Some fans just don't seem to be able to be objective and admit when they were wrong. Uh-oh had a few too many bitter shandys tonight have we? Think you might want pause and take breath before posting so much tripe in one go again. Which bit is tripe and why? |
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Post by joek on Sept 29, 2024 8:12:57 GMT 1
I am genuinely greatly heartened that the comments on here are read and digested. It demonstrates a desire to learn and get better, which cannot be denied. I'm sure you'll have probably picked this up already but the real issue is the overall steady decline at HTAFC after what was our most successful spell for 45 years. A spell that generated circa £300m in revenue. There are many examples of football clubs in England who enjoy success for a short period but struggle in subsequent years. Our hope, and we were told, that this "step change" would significantly help us (be better) for 10 years. That failed to materialise, miserably. Mr Nagle is now custodian. I still believe in his intention to be successful at HTAFC. Last season was a culmination of the poor choices that went before Mr Nagle took us on. Could things have been better? Many fans will say yes, I'm also sure Mr Nagle is equally honest too. However to be fair that opinion maybe fostered from hindsight. Hindsight often gives clarity. The current disappointment isn't that we have lost games of football per se, it is the manner in which we have lost those games. I could challenge MD on his formation and tactics (I would note that the players recruited don't necessarily look like they are ideally suited to how they are being asked to play) but the real issue is that the same mindset exists. There is no fresh personality or character shining through, the team look incoherent and rudderless on the pitch. I don't hold MD wholly responsible for this it is down to not recognising we needed leadership and personality as much as skill and ability. I always try and be constructive but I am equally realistic. Currently this group look a long way off the promotion challengers Mr Nagle wanted. I have highlighted what I see from the stands but it is down to Mr Nagle and his management team to evaluate, be honest, and find solutions. Unfortunately we play a team on Tuesday night who have real ambition. Moreover they have a momentum that is built on the support generated by the actions of their owners. It maybe unfair to make a direct comparison, noting their financial support of the team may create problems for them in the future (it equally may not, look at Ipswich), but it is a comparison that people will make. In simple terms the fans are frustrated because they feel they are witnessing "more of the same" on the pitch (noting the work on the stadium has been very welcome). The delivery, on the pitch, is not matching the ambition. As fans we know what we are watching. There are people who will let their frustration get the better of them and be unpleasant in their criticism. That is neither acceptable or helpful. There are people, many people, like me who aren't happy but express a view in a considered way. However the ones that I suggest you, collectively, need to worry about are the ones that are losing interest. That's the future of the club ebbing away. I hope MD finds a way, I think he needs the opportunity to do so. As for the rest of the club perhaps this is a time for Nr Nagle to (I make this suggestion with upmost respect) reflect and evaluate. He's had 18 months of being our custodian. I'm sure he's learnt much, and continues to learn too. I don't doubt he wants to be successful. However he can't be content with progress to date. Moreover he can't be happy that his hard earned cash has not been used as well as it might (let's be honest mistakes cost money, money that could have been used better). It is only 7 games in but the remaining 39 are not currently suggesting we will be celebrating in May 25. The bigger picture must be getting our club to a better place with everyone, or as many as possible on the same page. Ultimately that is the challenge and we have a long way to go. Of course mine is only one view but I hope you find it as it is intended ie critical but considered. Please keep absorbing and interacting as appropriate. We will get there together but the club needs to give us something to really believe in. All the best. UTT Post of the season. Would be delighted if the powers that be got to read it. |
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Post by royrace on Sept 29, 2024 8:20:07 GMT 1
Always thought you’re a decent poster Sheriff but I would have bet the house Warnock would have had us mid-table relatively comfortably come the end of last season had he been allowed to carry on. Every decision by the club following their decision to remove Warnock & Ronnie have proved catastrophic and there’s been a catalogue of them. They have absolutely reaped what they sowed and the sad part is it was so unnecessary. We are where we are now and I reckon we will have a few seasons in League 1 to mull over the decisions that put us there. There's no denying whatsoever that it's been a catalogue of errors since Warnocks departure, but as I said, many are very conveniently forgetting just how poor in general the performances were under him at the start of last season, go back and watch the games again. While there's absolutely no guarantee that he would have kept us up (and that is a fact), I won't dispute that our chances with him at helm would have been greater than they were during the catastrophic remainder of the season following his departure. 'Comfortable mid table'?! Not a cat in hells chance, and that's owing more to the poor quality of the squad than it is Warnocks managerial prowess. If you were to analyse the facts, the performance of the season before with Warnock, his past performance with similar squads, the squad in comparison to the season before and the money spent in January. Any objective person would conclude we'd get a comfortable mid table finish. I've no idea where the idea that Warnock would have struggled comes from but I'd imagine it's confirmation bias from some. It wasn't a great start to the season but nowhere near as bad as you make out, it was steady, as an example we'd just given Leicester a really good game and were unfortunate to lose. They were looking better game by game like Warnock teams usually do. |
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Post by kimbo999 on Sept 29, 2024 8:23:52 GMT 1
Well we had NW in place for one and that’s a pretty big one. I think folk are forgetting just how poor we were under NW for the start of last season, I'm not saying he would have definitely taken us down, but folk thinking he would been guaranteed to keep us up are in cuckoo land. Not quite we started getting results the team were showing fight n spirit and playing better wasn't great but it wasn't going to be with the dross we had n still got but NW knows how to get results One thing that is happening is KN, the fans want a style of football to hang our hats on and be excited about. but the players to deliver this are not being brought in either by lack of budget or clear incompetence. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 29, 2024 8:28:44 GMT 1
Twitter, yet again, sets another low for people calling themselves Town fans. Read some comments for about 2 minutes and can’t tell if people are just on the wind up, serious mental health issues or small man syndrome. Some people aren’t cut out to type words on a screen without resorting to full on abuse, pretty sad really. Must live depressing lives. Social media, weaponising more idiots by the day… |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 29, 2024 8:34:57 GMT 1
The Neil Warnock would have saved us argument will become our version of Brexit on here. Absolutely no telling what would have happened under a full season, albeit the manner of his exit was a bit knee jerk.
One thing I can guarantee though, had our results not improved & we’d remained in a relegation battle, a few folk on here would have been talking about NW in a negative sense.
It’s just the nature of supporting a football club, when successful the positive posters outweigh the negative ones & vice versa, which is what we’re seeing on here.
I can’t imagine anyone with the clubs interest at heart, whether that’s been for 50+ years or for the last 18 months, is particularly happy at this current point, so hopefully there’s work going on to stop the slide.
Strangely enough I’m relishing the Brum game, blind faith in some respects, but these are the games we should be using to try and turn the tide and breed some positivity.
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Post by Terry Jacko on Sept 29, 2024 8:48:41 GMT 1
There's no denying whatsoever that it's been a catalogue of errors since Warnocks departure, but as I said, many are very conveniently forgetting just how poor in general the performances were under him at the start of last season, go back and watch the games again. While there's absolutely no guarantee that he would have kept us up (and that is a fact), I won't dispute that our chances with him at helm would have been greater than they were during the catastrophic remainder of the season following his departure. 'Comfortable mid table'?! Not a cat in hells chance, and that's owing more to the poor quality of the squad than it is Warnocks managerial prowess. If you were to analyse the facts, the performance of the season before with Warnock, his past performance with similar squads, the squad in comparison to the season before and the money spent in January. Any objective person would conclude we'd get a comfortable mid table finish. I've no idea where the idea that Warnock would have struggled comes from but I'd imagine it's confirmation bias from some. It wasn't a great start to the season but nowhere near as bad as you make out, it was steady, as an example we'd just given Leicester a really good game and were unfortunate to lose. They were looking better game by game like Warnock teams usually do. I agree it wasn’t that bad, Plymouth was a even game but a mad 3 minutes killed us, Norwich was the only shocker I’d say , our record was P7 W2 D2 L3, including games against 3 teams that finished top 6. |
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Post by nabbysarratemyhamster on Sept 29, 2024 8:59:52 GMT 1
Twitter, yet again, sets another low for people calling themselves Town fans. Read some comments for about 2 minutes and can’t tell if people are just on the wind up, serious mental health issues or small man syndrome. Some people aren’t cut out to type words on a screen without resorting to full on abuse, pretty sad really. Must live depressing lives. Social media, weaponising more idiots by the day… I would suggest we need to be careful what we wish for…. If I was Nagle I would be looking at cutting my losses and running for the exit. On another note and in relation to living depressing lives, my life seems to absolutely replicate Towns trajectory to the point that I was optimistic a month or so ago to today thinking what’s the point. I’m considering an exit too! The difference is I don’t have a Nagle to help resurrect me! Town used to play such a big part in my life, weeks, holidays planned around games, as life has got tougher they have become less important, because when you think about it what the hell does it matter, I would suggest that you look at what you have around you and think how lucky you are (families being ripped apart on a daily basis in the middle east) or what is important at least. But it clearly still matters because even in my darkest moments I click on here to have a look at what the reaction is win lose or draw. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 29, 2024 9:02:39 GMT 1
Social media, weaponising more idiots by the day… I would suggest we need to be careful what we wish for…. If I was Nagle I would be looking at cutting my losses and running for the exit. On another note and in relation to living depressing lives, my life seems to absolutely replicate Towns trajectory to the point that I was optimistic a month or so ago to today thinking what’s the point. I’m considering an exit too! The difference is I don’t have a Nagle to help resurrect me! Town used to play such a big part in my life, weeks, holidays planned around games, as life has got tougher they have become less important, because when you think about it what the hell does it matter, I would suggest that you look at what you have around you and think how lucky you are (families being ripped apart on a daily basis in the middle east) or what is important at least. But it clearly still matters because even in my darkest moments I click on here to have a look at what the reaction is win lose or draw. Nothing is ever that bad, your lot will improve I can absolutely guarantee you.. Plenty of folk on here will be up for a chat with you if look at other parts of this board. |
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Post by Wingman on Sept 29, 2024 9:04:47 GMT 1
Social media, weaponising more idiots by the day… I would suggest we need to be careful what we wish for…. If I was Nagle I would be looking at cutting my losses and running for the exit. On another note and in relation to living depressing lives, my life seems to absolutely replicate Towns trajectory to the point that I was optimistic a month or so ago to today thinking what’s the point. I’m considering an exit too! The difference is I don’t have a Nagle to help resurrect me! Town used to play such a big part in my life, weeks, holidays planned around games, as life has got tougher they have become less important, because when you think about it what the hell does it matter, I would suggest that you look at what you have around you and think how lucky you are (families being ripped apart on a daily basis in the middle east) or what is important at least. But it clearly still matters because even in my darkest moments I click on here to have a look at what the reaction is win lose or draw. I mostly agree with you. There are bigger things in life but Town stir emotions like nothing else. I learn to mostly not let results ruin my weekend years ago but occasionally they get under my skin and nothing beats the elation of a home goal and win at the JSS. Take the good with the bad. We wouldn’t have it any other way would we? UTT 💙 |
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Post by ldr on Sept 29, 2024 9:17:49 GMT 1
Social media, weaponising more idiots by the day… I would suggest we need to be careful what we wish for…. If I was Nagle I would be looking at cutting my losses and running for the exit. On another note and in relation to living depressing lives, my life seems to absolutely replicate Towns trajectory to the point that I was optimistic a month or so ago to today thinking what’s the point. I’m considering an exit too! The difference is I don’t have a Nagle to help resurrect me! Town used to play such a big part in my life, weeks, holidays planned around games, as life has got tougher they have become less important, because when you think about it what the hell does it matter, I would suggest that you look at what you have around you and think how lucky you are (families being ripped apart on a daily basis in the middle east) or what is important at least. But it clearly still matters because even in my darkest moments I click on here to have a look at what the reaction is win lose or draw. I’m glad you felt able to post so honestly on here. I’m sure you know that there are people willing and ready to talk in an array of places nowadays. As Atlantis says, the mental health part of this forum has helped others in the past; please have a visit there pal. |
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Post by bullterrier on Sept 29, 2024 9:29:03 GMT 1
There are many many things one could question but I assure you it’s ALL listened to. Read, listened, all of it. More than you could ever know. What is the plan then to sort this mess out because in about a few weeks if this doesn't get better the fans will make it known by either Not attending because it's shite Finding something else to do on a Saturday Attending and being very vocal against your boss and the manager There appears to be a vacuum now. Dean wasn't perfect but he fronted up at fans forums. All I see from you are these ridiculous video diaries that make us out to be amazing, swell and all going great. It's rubbish mate. Apart from a lick of paint under the kilner bank I see no strategy to hit this mental 3 year plan...and whilst we are on that how is that going? The words you and Nagle spout are akin to calming down upset employees in a corporate environment. Don't think we are that....we are honest fans who want to see effort all over the pitch and honesty from the leaders, not blind optimism that borders on fantasy. Nagle needs to sort this out soon or it will be a real nightmare for him. Dean not perfect is an understatement he’s the reason we are struggling now he’s asset stripped us since we went down from premier league and as a result we are left with this shower of shit this team needs 2 /3 years of clearing out the shit and investing in quality not quantity look at the best players in the national league young hungry fast players allow duff to build it but as supporter we have to back the manager to do it he’s got to shift these underperforming ones on |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Sept 29, 2024 10:07:36 GMT 1
What is the plan then to sort this mess out because in about a few weeks if this doesn't get better the fans will make it known by either Not attending because it's shite Finding something else to do on a Saturday Attending and being very vocal against your boss and the manager There appears to be a vacuum now. Dean wasn't perfect but he fronted up at fans forums. All I see from you are these ridiculous video diaries that make us out to be amazing, swell and all going great. It's rubbish mate. Apart from a lick of paint under the kilner bank I see no strategy to hit this mental 3 year plan...and whilst we are on that how is that going? The words you and Nagle spout are akin to calming down upset employees in a corporate environment. Don't think we are that....we are honest fans who want to see effort all over the pitch and honesty from the leaders, not blind optimism that borders on fantasy. Nagle needs to sort this out soon or it will be a real nightmare for him. Dean not perfect is an understatement he’s the reason we are struggling now he’s asset stripped us since we went down from premier league and as a result we are left with this shower of shit this team needs 2 /3 years of clearing out the shit and investing in quality not quantity look at the best players in the national league young hungry fast players allow duff to build it but as supporter we have to back the manager to do it he’s got to shift these underperforming ones on What asset stripping did DH do? Selling LOB for £5 million felt cheap at the time but that's about it. If anything it was the opposite of asset stripping. We'd assembled an expensive squad that was worth fuck all after their calamitas second Premier league season. He refused to put any more money in after Hodgkinson's companies went into administration but continued to pay the wage bill until Nagle bought the Club. Other than that agree that Duff needs time and this won't be a fast fix or quick return to the championship. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Sept 29, 2024 10:10:32 GMT 1
Things are currently bad, the run we are on is awful. However, the poll thread on how many points Duff would gain in the 1st 8 games would have had many of us happy with the 12pts we have.
I don't know Dave or KN but I still believe they have our club's best interests at heart & I don't have KN down as a quitter, I expect he will work even harder to get us to where we want to be rather than run.
The problem KN has is that we have the worst record in England over the last 10 years, it's not just a bad patch. I have had time to think since yesterday but I still don't believe we deserved to lose that game, though 0 pts is 0 pts. The performance was far more encouraging than the previous 2 games.
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