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Post by utttrooper on Mar 17, 2024 11:15:40 GMT 1
Berzorg is never a Championship striker in a million years. Just because his main ability is to stop and put his foot on the ball this doesn't compensate for his weaknesses in the air, shooting,end product and, every week, teamwork. Might be a winger, perhaps, but a central striker, never. I agree. I like Burgzorg, but he's not a striker. However, he has to be in the XI as our best striker option because (i) he can actually hit the net once in a while, (ii) Ward is like a ghost in the majority of games he plays, (iii) Healey is injured, and (iv) Radulovic appears to be a wet lettuce and a load of gash. He's alright as in a strike partnership because he doesn't have to win balls in the air as much but still gets to be central to hopefully cause havoc |
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 17, 2024 11:16:18 GMT 1
Said it last week and I’ll say it again, I don’t think being relegated will necessarily be that bad for us with this new owner. Its probably the reality check that we need. Really! At best we'll get promoted back at first attempt but end up with a worse side when we're back in the championship. The better players will leave us this summer, we'll sign players for league one and then need to buy a whole squad of championship players if we get back up at first time of asking buy KN doesn't have the financial clout for that. Think we could do with a clear out player wise. Who says KN doesn’t have the financial clout? |
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 17, 2024 11:18:26 GMT 1
Matos on signing for Chelsea :""I'm a forward who can play anywhere in the front line. My pace is probably my best attribute, getting into the box and creating chances, it’s a big part of my game." Nah. We don't need anyone that can do that...leave 'im sat on his arse on the subs bench. Yet when he signed for us, he said he was a defensive midfielder. |
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Post by cecerececerececere on Mar 17, 2024 11:36:24 GMT 1
Beat 11 andre... pick them every week Nichols Spencer helik baulker Headley Kassumu matos Sorba Rudoni koroma Burgzorg How fucking hard is it to realise that. Hard to disagree with that, apart from maybe Burgzorg up top but he offers more than Ward, Healey, Radulovic combined. A wise man once said...."Football is a simple game complicated by idiots"....Bill Shankly. |
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Post by bogart on Mar 17, 2024 11:38:47 GMT 1
I think he has a few quid knocking about.
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Post by andyeastleake on Mar 17, 2024 11:39:31 GMT 1
When I die, I want Town players to lower my coffin into the dirt. Just so they can let me down one last time. Sometimes thoughtful posts can be lost on the "Match thread". This one deserves to be seen by all. UTT (PS Still think we'll end up OK (just)) |
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Post by griffa on Mar 17, 2024 11:41:36 GMT 1
Don't want to use this as an excuse, but thought we should've had a penalty 1st half, we Kasumu was brought down, by a Rotherham defender, when he burst into the box, but the the referee chose to book him for a dive.
Seen the replay online, stonewaller IMO, is that why Kasumu was subbed, or was he injured? - UTT.
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Post by rab030 on Mar 17, 2024 12:03:10 GMT 1
Probably the worst game of championship football I have watched in 50 years. Two very poor teams with little or no quality managed by two managers that didn’t appear to have a plan and officiated by a referee and two assistants that don’t know anything about football. Add to that a shit ground, poor playing surface and fans that need to look at themselves in the mirror. I need to find something else to do on a Saturday afternoon. FFS
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Post by boooothy on Mar 17, 2024 12:03:50 GMT 1
If we hadn’t lost the last 2 games that result would be viewed differently. We were by far the best team even with 10 men and the officials were dreadful.
The pressure is on now. If we go another 4 games without a win we are doomed.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Mar 17, 2024 12:09:07 GMT 1
Said it last week and I’ll say it again, I don’t think being relegated will necessarily be that bad for us with this new owner. Its probably the reality check that we need. Really! At best we'll get promoted back at first attempt but end up with a worse side when we're back in the championship. The better players will leave us this summer, we'll sign players for league one and then need to buy a whole squad of championship players if we get back up at first time of asking buy KN doesn't have the financial clout for that. Bloke chucked £4m at the last transfer window. There is a lot wrong with this club but I’m not sure KN’s financial backing is one of them. It’s the one thing providing hope of brighter days coming at this stage. |
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Post by runner76 on Mar 17, 2024 12:16:12 GMT 1
Don't want to use this as an excuse, but thought we should've had a penalty 1st half, we Kasumu was brought down, by a Rotherham defender, when he burst into the box, but the the referee chose to book him for a dive. Seen the replay online, stonewaller IMO, is that why Kasumu was subbed, or was he injured? - UTT. Stonewall penalty. Officials weren’t on it yesterday |
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Post by boooothy on Mar 17, 2024 12:19:51 GMT 1
I’ve watched the “dead ball” that was actually our corner. I saw it clear as day yesterday and TV backs up what i saw, the linesman looked straight at it. I can’t think of an explanation.
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Post by htafcokay on Mar 17, 2024 12:27:09 GMT 1
Really! At best we'll get promoted back at first attempt but end up with a worse side when we're back in the championship. The better players will leave us this summer, we'll sign players for league one and then need to buy a whole squad of championship players if we get back up at first time of asking buy KN doesn't have the financial clout for that. Bloke chucked £4m at the last transfer window. There is a lot wrong with this club but I’m not sure KN’s financial backing is one of them. It’s the one thing providing hope of brighter days coming at this stage. It's no good if that money continues to be spent on shite. |
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Post by thomo on Mar 17, 2024 12:49:55 GMT 1
Really! At best we'll get promoted back at first attempt but end up with a worse side when we're back in the championship. The better players will leave us this summer, we'll sign players for league one and then need to buy a whole squad of championship players if we get back up at first time of asking buy KN doesn't have the financial clout for that. Bloke chucked £4m at the last transfer window. There is a lot wrong with this club but I’m not sure KN’s financial backing is one of them. It’s the one thing providing hope of brighter days coming at this stage. I would suggest if Helik and Sorba go well need to be chucking at least 5 times that just to get a mid table championship team. We'll be building from scratch. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Mar 17, 2024 13:02:32 GMT 1
Just watched the highlights.
Apart from our inability up front we were done yet again by a Referee.
The Kasumu challenge was a definite penalty.
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Post by andyeastleake on Mar 17, 2024 13:05:17 GMT 1
I’ve watched the “dead ball” that was actually our corner. I saw it clear as day yesterday and TV backs up what i saw, the linesman looked straight at it. I can’t think of an explanation. If we're referring to the same incident (& we probably are), the Rotherham commentator actually laughed at that decision it was so bad. |
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Post by boooothy on Mar 17, 2024 13:55:01 GMT 1
I’ve watched the “dead ball” that was actually our corner. I saw it clear as day yesterday and TV backs up what i saw, the linesman looked straight at it. I can’t think of an explanation. If we're referring to the same incident (& we probably are), the Rotherham commentator actually laughed at that decision it was so bad. i ran to the corner flag in a rage, when i calmed down i was relieved to find i wasn’t on the pitch |
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 17, 2024 13:58:57 GMT 1
Just watched the highlights. Apart from our inability up front we were done yet again by a Referee. The Kasumu challenge was a definite penalty. Gone and found the highlights. Would have been very soft. Goes down far too easy for me. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Mar 17, 2024 14:33:00 GMT 1
Just watched the highlights. Apart from our inability up front we were done yet again by a Referee. The Kasumu challenge was a definite penalty. Gone and found the highlights. Would have been very soft. Goes down far too easy for me. He sticks a leg out and trips him. On what planet isn't that a penalty? |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Mar 17, 2024 14:33:19 GMT 1
Just watched the highlights. Apart from our inability up front we were done yet again by a Referee. The Kasumu challenge was a definite penalty. If there were any highlights from yesterday, I'd hate to see the lowlights. |
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Post by bluebeard on Mar 17, 2024 14:42:01 GMT 1
Shocking game officiated by clowns and a poor Town manager. Personally, i think we will be lucky to get 45 points.
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Post by uptownfunk on Mar 17, 2024 14:42:17 GMT 1
When I die, I want Town players to lower my coffin into the dirt. Just so they can let me down one last time. Sometimes thoughtful posts can be lost on the "Match thread". This one deserves to be seen by all. UTT (PS Still think we'll end up OK (just)) Funny reply to this one too. |
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Post by royrace on Mar 17, 2024 14:43:45 GMT 1
Just watched the highlights. Apart from our inability up front we were done yet again by a Referee. The Kasumu challenge was a definite penalty. Gone and found the highlights. Would have been very soft. Goes down far too easy for me. That's what the ref thought. However the fact that he goes down in an exaggerated manner is not relevant. What's relevant is the defender very obviously tripped him up, there was contact. Would you trust the ref to give it if he'd have stayed on his feet, lost balance and lost the ball? I wouldn't. |
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Post by ACW on Mar 17, 2024 14:47:28 GMT 1
Teams have good and bad spells. We had a decent spell after coming out from under Moore. We're in a worse spell now. I'm not hitting any panic buttons on the basis of three games under a new manager where things haven't quite gone right. I disagree with some of his decisions, but I'm not calling for the man's head because he hasn't won every game. A quick fix in football is rare. We got lucky with Warnock last season, but even then it took him a few games to get us going. He won one of his first five before things clicked in a mad spell against Middlesbrough. He's a manager who knows the division inside out and is a known quantity to the players, and vice versa. Even then, it took a bit of luck to get things going - the equaliser against Middlesbrough was a fantastic goal, but it owed as much to luck as tenacity and skill. Until then, many people were questioning the wisdom of bringing him in as there had been no instant uplift, the football was dire, and we were adrift. We are on our sixth manager in under two years. It's ridiculous. It’s almost as if (and I realise I’ve been repeating this for a while) the players aren’t up to scratch at this level. 🤔 Collectively they're not good enough. They've shown under a number of managers that they lack the quality for anything other than a relegation scrap. We have players who occasionally show quality, but they don't do it nearly enough. We have a team that can produce good performances and excellent results, but again they can't do it on a consistent basis. I think we need to forget what Warnock achieved last season. It was a miracle escape overseen by a miracle worker. We can't depend on miracles each season. We desperately need better players because without them any manager will struggle. As we keep seeing. We can't keep hoping that a squad of players who play well occasionally can start to produce consistently good performances. They have shown they are not capable of it. Despite his current struggles, I think we have a good manager. I just hope we can scrape survival so we can give him the players in the summer that he can work with. His CV proves he's a good coach, but he needs quality players to work with. The players he currently has at his disposal are either poor technically, inconsistent, or lacking footballing intelligence. Breitenreiter might have made mistakes, but we need to give him a chance. We can't keep blaming the manager and sacking them. Otherwise we become a club like Watford. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Mar 17, 2024 14:54:13 GMT 1
That there is a split in the opinions of those on DATM (and therefore possibly those who were at the game) over the ‘It was a stonewall penalty’ or ‘It was never a penalty’ - Well that just plays into the officials (and therefore The EFL’s hands) so it does...
Having taped the TV highlights and not yet seen them it’s hard to pass judgment on the incident...
However if it was (as quite a lot say) - Has Andre shouted from the rooftops about it...
Because if not and if it was a stonewaller then he’s very weak and that sadly could be seized upon going forward in this vital period in the season ! ☹️
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Post by newspaperjoe on Mar 17, 2024 15:15:50 GMT 1
I’ve watched the “dead ball” that was actually our corner. I saw it clear as day yesterday and TV backs up what i saw, the linesman looked straight at it. I can’t think of an explanation. If we're referring to the same incident (& we probably are), the Rotherham commentator actually laughed at that decision it was so bad. There was another incident where their lad commited a cynical foul to stop a break and the Rotherham commentator said "That's going to be a booking..." and sounded understandably shocked that the ref kept his cards in his pocket. |
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Post by htfcfcfc on Mar 17, 2024 15:19:29 GMT 1
Clear penalty for me yesterday and not to make excuses for Sorba, the ref was a very likely contribution to his frustration
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Post by trailingleg on Mar 17, 2024 15:24:52 GMT 1
It’s almost as if (and I realise I’ve been repeating this for a while) the players aren’t up to scratch at this level. 🤔 Collectively they're not good enough. They've shown under a number of managers that they lack the quality for anything other than a relegation scrap. We have players who occasionally show quality, but they don't do it nearly enough. We have a team that can produce good performances and excellent results, but again they can't do it on a consistent basis. I think we need to forget what Warnock achieved last season. It was a miracle escape overseen by a miracle worker. We can't depend on miracles each season. We desperately need better players because without them any manager will struggle. As we keep seeing. We can't keep hoping that a squad of players who play well occasionally can start to produce consistently good performances. They have shown they are not capable of it. Despite his current struggles, I think we have a good manager. I just hope we can scrape survival so we can give him the players in the summer that he can work with. His CV proves he's a good coach, but he needs quality players to work with. The players he currently has at his disposal are either poor technically, inconsistent, or lacking footballing intelligence. Breitenreiter might have made mistakes, but we need to give him a chance. We can't keep blaming the manager and sacking them. Otherwise we become a club like Watford. That would be the Watford who have just probably retained their Championship status? |
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Post by ACW on Mar 17, 2024 15:31:46 GMT 1
Collectively they're not good enough. They've shown under a number of managers that they lack the quality for anything other than a relegation scrap. We have players who occasionally show quality, but they don't do it nearly enough. We have a team that can produce good performances and excellent results, but again they can't do it on a consistent basis. I think we need to forget what Warnock achieved last season. It was a miracle escape overseen by a miracle worker. We can't depend on miracles each season. We desperately need better players because without them any manager will struggle. As we keep seeing. We can't keep hoping that a squad of players who play well occasionally can start to produce consistently good performances. They have shown they are not capable of it. Despite his current struggles, I think we have a good manager. I just hope we can scrape survival so we can give him the players in the summer that he can work with. His CV proves he's a good coach, but he needs quality players to work with. The players he currently has at his disposal are either poor technically, inconsistent, or lacking footballing intelligence. Breitenreiter might have made mistakes, but we need to give him a chance. We can't keep blaming the manager and sacking them. Otherwise we become a club like Watford. That would be the Watford who have just probably retained their Championship status? Yes, but they expect much, much more. I used them as an example of a club who regularly change managers and are not achieving their aims. Whether you agree with my comparison with Watford or not, do you agree that we can't keep changing managers when the players consistently show they are not very good at this level? Or are you starting to think Breitenreiter is not up to the job? |
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Post by turbo2 on Mar 17, 2024 15:35:45 GMT 1
Gone and found the highlights. Would have been very soft. Goes down far too easy for me. He sticks a leg out and trips him. On what planet isn't that a penalty? My take on all penalties is would I be screaming at the ref if he gives one like that to the opponent. Yes is my answer. Like I say , soft, very soft. Someone arguing about how he goes down not been relevant?? Of course it is. Ref thinks he’s made a meal of it. And I can’t disagree |
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