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Post by gebus73 on Apr 2, 2024 14:18:15 GMT 1
Regardless of the division we end up we have a big summer rebuilding project on our hands as a club. Between the out of contract players and the loans returning to their clubs we look to have 6 current first team players our of contract, not including those out on loan who's contracts are up. Having looked at the B team players there only appears to be Lorpenda who is capable of contributing to the first team at the moment. I suspect even if we were to stay up then we will not be using the purchase option on Burgzorg as he simply not a team player. Yuta will not be offered any contract due to repeated injuries, they might offer Hogg a player coach type role especially if we go down. if and its a big if, we can stay up then we stand a chance of holding onto the better players who we know can do a job in the championship, however I see the likes of Sorba, Helick, Rudonni trying to push for a move as three years of relegation is not what or where they want to be.
As it stands if we go down and can cash in on a few of the decent players, generate maybe 10 mill in player sales through the like of those then with Kevin's investment as well we might be able to put together a competitive side for league 1. I also think if we see some of the younger fringe players at b team level released or ideally sold then we free up a little more salary space. I really had hoped that Diarra had kicked on but alas it doesn't appear to be the case. I look at the b team and see 20 to 24 year old players in there that have not pushed on this season.
As it stands I think the recruitment team have a massive battle of their hands putting together a side for either league.
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Post by ambryboy on Apr 2, 2024 14:23:33 GMT 1
Harratt, Hudlin and Simpson up front next season - a prospect that makes your mouth water in anticipation  |
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Post by workshyfop on Apr 2, 2024 14:39:55 GMT 1
I wouldn’t be bothered if they let the lot go. Helik, Rudoni, Spencer and Nicholls are the only ones who are currently at the required level. Why anyone would want Hogg as a player-coach is beyond me? He’s limited technically and seems to shift the blame to others, maybe better as a fitness coach, but I was surprised he came back as captain after being sent off and suspended.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 2, 2024 14:42:41 GMT 1
I wouldn’t be bothered if they let the lot go. Helik, Rudoni, Spencer and Nicholls are the only ones who are currently at the required level. Why anyone would want Hogg as a player-coach is beyond me? He’s limited technically and seems to shift the blame to others, maybe better as a fitness coach, but I was surprised he came back as captain after being sent off and suspended. Town fans (or perhaps it's just football fans in general?) seem to have this obsession with players going on to become the manager. Before Hogg it was Michael Hefele and before that it was Andy Booth and before that it was Darren Bullock. Just beyond weird. Bar one season, all Hogg has known at Huddersfield Town is losing. He's a big part of the losing mentality at the club and shouldn't be offered a new contract. We need a fresh start, with as many of the serial losers out of the door as possible. Otherwise, we'll never ever move on. |
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Post by workshyfop on Apr 2, 2024 14:50:30 GMT 1
I wouldn’t be bothered if they let the lot go. Helik, Rudoni, Spencer and Nicholls are the only ones who are currently at the required level. Why anyone would want Hogg as a player-coach is beyond me? He’s limited technically and seems to shift the blame to others, maybe better as a fitness coach, but I was surprised he came back as captain after being sent off and suspended. Town fans (or perhaps it's just football fans in general?) seem to have this obsession with players going on to become the manager. Before Hogg it was Michael Hefele and before that it was Andy Booth and before that it was Darren Bullock. Just beyond weird. Bar one season, all Hogg has known at Huddersfield Town is losing. He's a big part of the losing mentality at the club and shouldn't be offered a new contract. We need a fresh start, with as many of the serial losers out of the door as possible. Otherwise, we'll never ever move on. Agreed. His one great season was alongside Mooy. That’s what we’ve missed. Even Wednesday have that with Bannan. The ability of our midfield has been shocking this season. I rate Rudoni, but also understand the frustration with him. Kasumu does some good work, but is always let down with his final pass/shot. Matos likewise grafts, but offers little creativity and is equally as likely to pick up a card as the others. I don’t know what to say about Wiles. I suspect he has some ability, but has found it difficult for whatever reason (possibly fitness). |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 2, 2024 14:55:59 GMT 1
Town fans (or perhaps it's just football fans in general?) seem to have this obsession with players going on to become the manager. Before Hogg it was Michael Hefele and before that it was Andy Booth and before that it was Darren Bullock. Just beyond weird. Bar one season, all Hogg has known at Huddersfield Town is losing. He's a big part of the losing mentality at the club and shouldn't be offered a new contract. We need a fresh start, with as many of the serial losers out of the door as possible. Otherwise, we'll never ever move on. Agreed. His one great season was alongside Mooy. That’s what we’ve missed. Even Wednesday have that with Bannan. The ability of our midfield has been shocking this season. I rate Rudoni, but also understand the frustration with him. Kasumu does some good work, but is always let down with his final pass/shot. Matos likewise grafts, but offers little creativity and is equally as likely to pick up a card as the others. I don’t know what to say about Wiles. I suspect he has some ability, but has found it difficult for whatever reason (possibly fitness). I think people might be surprised at the weight that is lifted off the shoulders of the club once Hogg has gone. No-one is going to agree with me, but I don't really see him as a legend, only as someone who's stuck around the place because no-one has come in for him. He's had a couple of good seasons at best and is a massive part of a side that are serial losers. Plus, I imagine he's quite a force in the dressing room and it's quite well-known he's given at least two managers the vote of no confidence. I think the club needs some new blood and the first one that should be out is Hogg, both parties need a fresh start. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 2, 2024 14:58:20 GMT 1
To retain at all costs:
Goalkeepers: Nicholls, Maxwell
Defenders: Helik, Headley, Spencer, Balker
Midfielders: Rudoni, Thomas, Jones
Forwards: Radulovic, Healey
That’s your core. You then have the likes of Pearson, Lees, Hogg, Kasumu. Players who you want to retain but aren’t maybe as key as they were. The players who will be pushed out by a squad reshuffle, but who you still need in the squad until their place is taken. It’s never as easy as just saying ‘we need a new squad.’ The current squad has to form a nucleus of the next.
Definitely look to move significant numbers on, though. Enough are out of contract that that particular job is made easier. Diarra should get us a bit of money on tribunal. Nakayama needs replacing as a left-sided defender for balance. Then it’s the likes of Ruffels and Ward, who are under contract but haven’t been available often enough, plus those who haven’t offered enough.
The next challenge is in their replacements. We need full-backs on both sides. We need midfielders, who should be ball-players as well as athletes. We have hard workers and runners, but lack quality and control in possession. No doubt we’ll also need a bit of stardust from somewhere too - the supply lines need reinforcing.
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Post by dugnet on Apr 2, 2024 15:13:43 GMT 1
What I find interesting is that, apparently, recruitment teams use stats to identify the players who would make us better. If that is the case why hasn't anyone looked to resolve our appalling ball retention stats?
We need to decide what identity we are looking to embed and recruit to that. The challenge in League One would be very different to that in the Championship. If the recruitment team are telling Mr Nagle differently then they need challenging.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 2, 2024 15:14:06 GMT 1
I wouldn’t be bothered if they let the lot go. Helik, Rudoni, Spencer and Nicholls are the only ones who are currently at the required level. Why anyone would want Hogg as a player-coach is beyond me? He’s limited technically and seems to shift the blame to others, maybe better as a fitness coach, but I was surprised he came back as captain after being sent off and suspended. Town fans (or perhaps it's just football fans in general?) seem to have this obsession with players going on to become the manager. Before Hogg it was Michael Hefele and before that it was Andy Booth and before that it was Darren Bullock. Just beyond weird. Bar one season, all Hogg has known at Huddersfield Town is losing. He's a big part of the losing mentality at the club and shouldn't be offered a new contract. We need a fresh start, with as many of the serial losers out of the door as possible. Otherwise, we'll never ever move on. Hes been practically the first name on the team sheet for all 12 of the permanent managers and all the interim managers hes had at Town, and done that throughout almost all of the most successful period the clubs had in the past 50 odd seasons of its history. And you break that down to.. 'bar one season all hes known is losing and hes a big part of the losing mentality of the club' Maybe we should have stayed in L1 and L2 where we dont lose as much? |
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Post by workshyfop on Apr 2, 2024 15:14:11 GMT 1
To retain at all costs: Goalkeepers: Nicholls, Maxwell Defenders: Helik, Headley, Spencer, Balker Midfielders: Rudoni, Thomas, Jones Forwards: Radulovic, Healey That’s your core. You then have the likes of Pearson, Lees, Hogg, Kasumu. Players who you want to retain but aren’t maybe as key as they were. The players who will be pushed out by a squad reshuffle, but who you still need in the squad until their place is taken. It’s never as easy as just saying ‘we need a new squad.’ The current squad has to form a nucleus of the next. So far, Balker, Radulovic and Healey have missed more games than they’ve played. Jones has been a prospect for three or four years, yet has never broken through, largely because of injuries. Headley is very hit and miss. I wish Diarra had been given half the opportunities some others have had. I agree it’s probably time to move on, but think there’s a player in there. Thomas will be onto his agent already, no doubt. Not sure you can build a team round those sorts of players. It’s no coincidence that Ipswich have used 17 players that have made at least 15 league appearances out of a possible 40 and only 3 of those did not contribute to their promotion campaign from last year. You need a consistent settled squad. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 2, 2024 15:17:27 GMT 1
Town fans (or perhaps it's just football fans in general?) seem to have this obsession with players going on to become the manager. Before Hogg it was Michael Hefele and before that it was Andy Booth and before that it was Darren Bullock. Just beyond weird. Bar one season, all Hogg has known at Huddersfield Town is losing. He's a big part of the losing mentality at the club and shouldn't be offered a new contract. We need a fresh start, with as many of the serial losers out of the door as possible. Otherwise, we'll never ever move on. Hes been practically the first name on the team sheet for all 12 of the permanent managers and all the interim managers hes had at Town, and done that throughout almost all of the most successful period the clubs had in the past 50 odd seasons of its history. And you break that down to.. 'bar one season all hes known is losing and hes a big part of the losing mentality of the club' Maybe we should have stayed in L1 and L2 where we dont lose as much? I have my opinion and you have yours. End of discussion. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 2, 2024 15:18:00 GMT 1
To retain at all costs: Goalkeepers: Nicholls, Maxwell Defenders: Helik, Headley, Spencer, Balker Midfielders: Rudoni, Thomas, Jones Forwards: Radulovic, Healey That’s your core. You then have the likes of Pearson, Lees, Hogg, Kasumu. Players who you want to retain but aren’t maybe as key as they were. The players who will be pushed out by a squad reshuffle, but who you still need in the squad until their place is taken. It’s never as easy as just saying ‘we need a new squad.’ The current squad has to form a nucleus of the next. Definitely look to move significant numbers on, though. Enough are out of contract that that particular job is made easier. Diarra should get us a bit of money on tribunal. Nakayama needs replacing as a left-sided defender for balance. Then it’s the likes of Ruffels and Ward, who are under contract but haven’t been available often enough, plus those who haven’t offered enough. The next challenge is in their replacements. We need full-backs on both sides. We need midfielders, who should be ball-players as well as athletes. We have hard workers and runners, but lack quality and control in possession. No doubt we’ll also need a bit of stardust from somewhere too - the supply lines need reinforcing. Dont disagree much with your retain at all costs suggestions. Perhaps a bit generous on radulovioc from what hes shown so far and you've maybe forgotten Turton, who if he can get back to his previous form is definitely one to keep IMO. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 2, 2024 15:24:22 GMT 1
To retain at all costs: Goalkeepers: Nicholls, Maxwell Defenders: Helik, Headley, Spencer, Balker Midfielders: Rudoni, Thomas, Jones Forwards: Radulovic, Healey That’s your core. You then have the likes of Pearson, Lees, Hogg, Kasumu. Players who you want to retain but aren’t maybe as key as they were. The players who will be pushed out by a squad reshuffle, but who you still need in the squad until their place is taken. It’s never as easy as just saying ‘we need a new squad.’ The current squad has to form a nucleus of the next. So far, Balker, Radulovic and Healey have missed more games than they’ve played. Jones has been a prospect for three or four years, yet has never broken through, largely because of injuries. Headley is very hit and miss. I wish Diarra had been given half the opportunities some others have had. I agree it’s probably time to move on, but think there’s a player in there. Thomas will be onto his agent already, no doubt. Not sure you can build a team round those sorts of players. It’s no coincidence that Ipswich have used 17 players that have made at least 15 league appearances out of a possible 40 and only 3 of those did not contribute to their promotion campaign from last year. You need a consistent settled squad. You build around quality. If you can’t retain the above, command as much of a fee as possible. I’m sure some on my list would go, but if we got good money for them that would cushion the blow and give more of a chance to rebuild. Headley and Jones are 20/21. They are both first-team ready and have enormous potential. Diarra won’t sign a contract, so that option doesn’t exist for next season. Ideally Diarra is in the same category as the other two, but circumstances bring as they are, he isn’t. If either Jones or Headley were as consistent as Spencer, who is ridiculous for his age, they would be utterly indispensable. As it is, I’m not saying they’re your starters every week - I’m saying they’re core players in your squad. Agreed on having a settled core, though. Hence picking the core above. If we worked from that, we’d be in a decent position. We need leaders. We need a Peter Clarke figure to skipper the side, a decent player but a fantastic man and professional. We need proven winners. Our last promotion came about when we signed three club captains in the summer, and we need that again. And if we do that, we’ll be set fair. Football isn’t just about the stats - it has to be about heart too. |
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Post by bigtruck on Apr 2, 2024 15:26:01 GMT 1
I wouldn’t be bothered if they let the lot go. Helik, Rudoni, Spencer and Nicholls are the only ones who are currently at the required level. Why anyone would want Hogg as a player-coach is beyond me? He’s limited technically and seems to shift the blame to others, maybe better as a fitness coach, but I was surprised he came back as captain after being sent off and suspended. Town fans (or perhaps it's just football fans in general?) seem to have this obsession with players going on to become the manager. Before Hogg it was Michael Hefele and before that it was Andy Booth and before that it was Darren Bullock. Just beyond weird. Bar one season, all Hogg has known at Huddersfield Town is losing. He's a big part of the losing mentality at the club and shouldn't be offered a new contract. We need a fresh start, with as many of the serial losers out of the door as possible. Otherwise, we'll never ever move on. Sorry but it is absolute tosh to say “bar one season” regarding Hogg. He doesn’t stay around for as long as he has getting picked by every manager we have had if he’s only ever had 1 good season. I do wonder why you even bother watching sometimes. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Apr 2, 2024 15:26:31 GMT 1
To retain at all costs: Goalkeepers: Nicholls, Maxwell Defenders: Helik, Headley, Spencer, Balker Midfielders: Rudoni, Thomas, Jones Forwards: Radulovic, Healey That’s your core. You then have the likes of Pearson, Lees, Hogg, Kasumu. Players who you want to retain but aren’t maybe as key as they were. The players who will be pushed out by a squad reshuffle, but who you still need in the squad until their place is taken. It’s never as easy as just saying ‘we need a new squad.’ The current squad has to form a nucleus of the next. Definitely look to move significant numbers on, though. Enough are out of contract that that particular job is made easier. Diarra should get us a bit of money on tribunal. Nakayama needs replacing as a left-sided defender for balance. Then it’s the likes of Ruffels and Ward, who are under contract but haven’t been available often enough, plus those who haven’t offered enough. The next challenge is in their replacements. We need full-backs on both sides. We need midfielders, who should be ball-players as well as athletes. We have hard workers and runners, but lack quality and control in possession. No doubt we’ll also need a bit of stardust from somewhere too - the supply lines need reinforcing. Dont disagree much with your retain at all costs suggestions. Perhaps a bit generous on radulovioc from what hes shown so far and you've maybe forgotten Turton, who if he can get back to his previous form is definitely one to keep IMO. If he can get back is the caveat. Great professional, good character, tough competitor, and well worth a squad place if fit. But he’s been out so long now that I have my doubts if we’ll ever see him again. He’s 31. The wrong age to be out of the game for 2 years. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 2, 2024 15:33:23 GMT 1
Town fans (or perhaps it's just football fans in general?) seem to have this obsession with players going on to become the manager. Before Hogg it was Michael Hefele and before that it was Andy Booth and before that it was Darren Bullock. Just beyond weird. Bar one season, all Hogg has known at Huddersfield Town is losing. He's a big part of the losing mentality at the club and shouldn't be offered a new contract. We need a fresh start, with as many of the serial losers out of the door as possible. Otherwise, we'll never ever move on. Sorry but it is absolute tosh to say “bar one season” regarding Hogg. He doesn’t stay around for as long as he has getting picked by every manager we have had if he’s only ever had 1 good season. I do wonder why you even bother watching sometimes. Apart from the promotion season, between 2013 and 2024, how many seasons have we had success/winning? A quick glance at the figures and in that time we've won 146 league games out of 437. You should perhaps read my post properly, I haven't said Hogg has only ever had one good season, I said he's only really experienced one season where we weren't losing. But it's alright, let's get another dig in about my support of the club. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 2, 2024 15:35:58 GMT 1
Town fans (or perhaps it's just football fans in general?) seem to have this obsession with players going on to become the manager. Before Hogg it was Michael Hefele and before that it was Andy Booth and before that it was Darren Bullock. Just beyond weird. Bar one season, all Hogg has known at Huddersfield Town is losing. He's a big part of the losing mentality at the club and shouldn't be offered a new contract. We need a fresh start, with as many of the serial losers out of the door as possible. Otherwise, we'll never ever move on. Sorry but it is absolute tosh to say “bar one season” regarding Hogg. He doesn’t stay around for as long as he has getting picked by every manager we have had if he’s only ever had 1 good season. I do wonder why you even bother watching sometimes. Finishing 3rd one season and staying up in the PL dont count as good seasons clearly. Just being in the championship is a good season for a club of our size..been that way since the 1960s...let's not forget if we charged our fans normal amounts we'd only get about 10,000 through the door apparently. But regardless, we should be taking our rightful place as a champions league regular. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 2, 2024 15:37:42 GMT 1
Sorry but it is absolute tosh to say “bar one season” regarding Hogg. He doesn’t stay around for as long as he has getting picked by every manager we have had if he’s only ever had 1 good season. I do wonder why you even bother watching sometimes. Finishing 3rd one season and staying up in the PL dont count as good seasons clearly. Just being in the championship is a good season for a club of our size..been that way since the 1960s...let's not forget if we charged our fans normal amounts we'd only get about 10,000 through the door apparently. But regardless, we should be taking our rightful place as a champions league regular. You are a pompous bore. Try reading what I said instead of going off on an irrelevant tangent. As usual. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 2, 2024 15:43:23 GMT 1
Im a pompous realist.
You on the other hand seem to have started supporting a club that is never likely to satisfy your overblown sense of entitlement..thus this endless negativity and frustration.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Apr 2, 2024 15:48:42 GMT 1
Town fans (or perhaps it's just football fans in general?) seem to have this obsession with players going on to become the manager. Before Hogg it was Michael Hefele and before that it was Andy Booth and before that it was Darren Bullock. Just beyond weird. Bar one season, all Hogg has known at Huddersfield Town is losing. He's a big part of the losing mentality at the club and shouldn't be offered a new contract. We need a fresh start, with as many of the serial losers out of the door as possible. Otherwise, we'll never ever move on. Hes been practically the first name on the team sheet for all 12 of the permanent managers and all the interim managers hes had at Town, and done that throughout almost all of the most successful period the clubs had in the past 50 odd seasons of its history. And you break that down to.. 'bar one season all hes known is losing and hes a big part of the losing mentality of the club' Maybe we should have stayed in L1 and L2 where we dont lose as much? Good post Hogg has a losing mentality - eh! The guy is 5 foot 8. Not especially quick, strong or good on the pass. Yet through pure determination, bravery and hard graft has squeezed everything he has from his talents He's played over 60 times in the Premier League, won promotion from the Championship (when we finished 5th) and twice been a regular in sides that came third in this League (Watford 12/13 and Town 21/22 He was a regular the season we finished 16th in the PL If the rest of our players had Hogg's attitude we'd be near the top of the league |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 2, 2024 15:48:49 GMT 1
Im a pompous realist.
You on the other hand seem to have started supporting a club that is never likely to satisfy your overblown sense of entitlement..thus this endless negativity and frustration.What the actual fuck? My happiest days of watching Town were in the third and fourth tiers. I've no problem if we go down, I'll still be watching but it doesn't mean that I don't want to be the absolute best that they can. Evem someone as deluded as you can't claim that these last two seasons have been anything other than dreadful. But no doubt you'll argue that they've been brilliant just so you can carry on the argument. And as for the negativity claim, change the record, it's incredibly boring. If we start winning games, I'll be happy. That's how it works. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 2, 2024 15:50:33 GMT 1
Hes been practically the first name on the team sheet for all 12 of the permanent managers and all the interim managers hes had at Town, and done that throughout almost all of the most successful period the clubs had in the past 50 odd seasons of its history. And you break that down to.. 'bar one season all hes known is losing and hes a big part of the losing mentality of the club' Maybe we should have stayed in L1 and L2 where we dont lose as much? Good post Hogg has a losing mentality - eh! The guy is 5 foot 8. Not especially quick, strong or good on the pass. Yet through pure determination, bravery and hard graft has squeezed everything he has from his talents He's played over 60 times in the Premier League, won promotion from the Championship (when we finished 5th) and twice been a regular in sides that came third in this League (Watford 12/13 and Town 21/22 He was a regular the season we finished 16th in the PL If the rest of our players had Hogg's attitude we'd be near the top of the league Get him signed up until he's 40 then  |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 2, 2024 15:52:35 GMT 1
Hes been practically the first name on the team sheet for all 12 of the permanent managers and all the interim managers hes had at Town, and done that throughout almost all of the most successful period the clubs had in the past 50 odd seasons of its history. And you break that down to.. 'bar one season all hes known is losing and hes a big part of the losing mentality of the club' Maybe we should have stayed in L1 and L2 where we dont lose as much? Good post Hogg has a losing mentality - eh! The guy is 5 foot 8. Not especially quick, strong or good on the pass. Yet through pure determination, bravery and hard graft has squeezed everything he has from his talents He's played over 60 times in the Premier League, won promotion from the Championship (when we finished 5th) and twice been a regular in sides that came third in this League (Watford 12/13 and Town 21/22 He was a regular the season we finished 16th in the PL If the rest of our players had Hogg's attitude we'd be near the top of the league No, hes a loser with a losing mentality.  |
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Post by ChelmsfordTerrier on Apr 2, 2024 16:00:04 GMT 1
On the Hogg debate. No doubt he has been a great servant to the club however I do agree it is time to part ways. The club is in dire need of an overhaul and fresh start.
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 2, 2024 16:01:18 GMT 1
On the Hogg debate. No doubt he has been a great servant to the club however I do agree it is time to part ways. The club is in dire need of an overhaul and fresh start. Now let's see if you get jumped on for having a different opinion. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 2, 2024 16:03:41 GMT 1
Im a pompous realist.
You on the other hand seem to have started supporting a club that is never likely to satisfy your overblown sense of entitlement..thus this endless negativity and frustration.What the actual fuck? My happiest days of watching Town were in the third and fourth tiers. I've no problem if we go down, I'll still be watching but it doesn't mean that I don't want to be the absolute best that they can. Evem someone as deluded as you can't claim that these last two seasons have been anything other than dreadful. But no doubt you'll argue that they've been brilliant just so you can carry on the argument. And as for the negativity claim, change the record, it's incredibly boring. If we start winning games, I'll be happy. That's how it works. All fans want the club to be the best it can be. Not sure why Im deluded for understanding that being in the 2nd tier isnt unacceptable ,, and even struggling in the 2nd tier isnt unacceptable for a club like Town. I dont find it dreadful.. just disappointing because I hope to do better..but I dont feel that we're entitled to do better and im not going to endlessly drone on about how bad it is. I say this isnt the right club for you because youre so obsessed about winning and you can only stomach it if we are winning...happiest days in the bottom 2 divisions... because we were winning more...not happy in the top two divisions all this time. ...because we dont win as much. Hate to break this to you, but whilst this club is in the top 2 divisions, then more often than not we'll not be winning all the time. but what the 'losers' have done is win enough so we stay in the top 2 divisions. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 2, 2024 16:06:08 GMT 1
On the Hogg debate. No doubt he has been a great servant to the club however I do agree it is time to part ways. The club is in dire need of an overhaul and fresh start. Hes been brilliant for us and had a superb career but it'll be disappointing if hes still a first choice regular here next season. Still think hes got a role in the squad though, just for his experience and character. |
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Post by htafcokay on Apr 2, 2024 16:08:33 GMT 1
What the actual fuck? My happiest days of watching Town were in the third and fourth tiers. I've no problem if we go down, I'll still be watching but it doesn't mean that I don't want to be the absolute best that they can. Evem someone as deluded as you can't claim that these last two seasons have been anything other than dreadful. But no doubt you'll argue that they've been brilliant just so you can carry on the argument. And as for the negativity claim, change the record, it's incredibly boring. If we start winning games, I'll be happy. That's how it works. All fans want the club to be the best it can be. Not sure why Im deluded for understanding that being in the 2nd tier isnt unacceptable ,, and even struggling in the 2nd tier isnt unacceptable for a club like Town. I dont find it dreadful.. just disappointing because I hope to do better..but I dont feel that we're entitled to do better and im not going to endlessly drone on about how bad it is. I say this isnt the right club for you because youre so obsessed about winning and you can only stomach it if we are winning...happiest days in the bottom 2 divisions... because we were winning more...not happy in the top two divisions all this time. ...because we dont win as much. Hate to break this to you, but whilst this club is in the top 2 divisions, then more often than not we'll not be winning all the time. but what the 'losers' have done is win enough so we stay in the top 2 divisions. No, you'll just endlessly drone on about how brilliant it is. And don't tell me which club to support or what I'm happy with or not happy with. I'm not obsessed with winning, but turning up every week and seeing us barely have a shot on goal or win a game is tedious, depressing and dull. The reason why the third and fourth tiers were my favourite days were because I was a kid, fuck all to do with winning or not winning. The 2017 promotion was one of the happiest days of my life as well. You can't handle the fact that everyone has a different opinion on things and you just belittle people who dares to have a different opinion to you. For my own sanity, please stop replying to me now as you are quite simply exhausting. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 2, 2024 16:09:33 GMT 1
Q to the original poster.
Where do you think we can generate £10m in transfer fees out of the club?
Is Peter Ridsdale advising clubs again?
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 2, 2024 16:24:53 GMT 1
All fans want the club to be the best it can be. Not sure why Im deluded for understanding that being in the 2nd tier isnt unacceptable ,, and even struggling in the 2nd tier isnt unacceptable for a club like Town. I dont find it dreadful.. just disappointing because I hope to do better..but I dont feel that we're entitled to do better and im not going to endlessly drone on about how bad it is. I say this isnt the right club for you because youre so obsessed about winning and you can only stomach it if we are winning...happiest days in the bottom 2 divisions... because we were winning more...not happy in the top two divisions all this time. ...because we dont win as much. Hate to break this to you, but whilst this club is in the top 2 divisions, then more often than not we'll not be winning all the time. but what the 'losers' have done is win enough so we stay in the top 2 divisions. No, you'll just endlessly drone on about how brilliant it is. And don't tell me which club to support or what I'm happy with or not happy with. I'm not obsessed with winning, but turning up every week and seeing us barely have a shot on goal or win a game is tedious, depressing and dull. The reason why the third and fourth tiers were my favourite days were because I was a kid, fuck all to do with winning or not winning. The 2017 promotion was one of the happiest days of my life as well. You can't handle the fact that everyone has a different opinion on things and you just belittle people who dares to have a different opinion to you. For my own sanity, please stop replying to me now as you are quite simply exhausting. I can handle the fact you have a different opinion. Im not the one telling people not to challenge my views because I find it 'exhausting' ! You've taken the most successful period the clubs had in the modern era of the game and broken it down to being crap because we have a losing mentality FFS!! Seriously, why bother being a town fan at all if thats all you can take from the better years?? Its a discussion board..If youre going to fill it , and I do mean fill it, with this constant negativity and what to me seems like a really overblown sense of entitlement about what you expect from this club, then dont be shocked if people question what youre spouting. |
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