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Post by irverino on Jul 29, 2024 12:45:22 GMT 1
The fans weren't convinced with the 1-0 win at Walsall on Saturday which was thanks mainly to Blues keeper Peacock-Farrell, maybe they will 'piss the league' but if a mid table league two side can trouble them then perhaps they aren't there yet.......Brums two opening opponents in L1 (Reading/Wycombe) both enjoyed victories over higher opposition at the weekend. Honestly, I've never given much weight to preseason results. Or more to the point - I've never given any weight to preseason results. On paper, Birmingham already had the strongest squad in the division before their signings. Leonard & May we already know are good. Willumson and Hansson look class as well. Yeh mostly pre season is trying out formations & fitness levels till a fortnight before when managers want to see a finished product, if good players are struggling now then it may take a few league games to get gelling or they might be expecting an easier ride.........Let's see how the mighty Blues do this week in their final prep v WBA. |
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Post by dxterrier on Jul 29, 2024 17:54:05 GMT 1
From a lot of the highlights of the games in Austria, I still see the same issues from last season Defence way too slow and all over the place Passing not good enough No threat in the box Too many still look uninterested Yes its pre season, yes its a new regime but I cant see much difference, to me the biggest cause of relegation was the attitude of the players and the ineptitude of the likes of Cartwright. If anything has changed, then i'm sorry I don't see it, despite winning 2 games. Hopefully there will be more signings, pace at both ends of the pitch is desperately needed, but as things stand any talk of top 6 is totally unrealistic, as things stand we are battling relegation, even if Nichols, Helik and spencer stay, without them or better replacements I fear back to back relegation, remember 4 go down from this division Do you fancy a wager? If you think we are battling relegation I'll give you us finishing in 16-24th place & I'll have 1-15th.... you on for that? No thanks, I may be struggling for optimism but never could I bring myself to bet on us finishing in the bottom 4, nor could I ever take any pleasure from being right. If we get the pace injection we need it could be a different picture and then I would be delighted to be wrong. I'm just struggling to see past last seasons woes, mostly because I still see them, especially defensively and lack of fire power, put those 2 together and you are not going to do very well, in any division. I think its a mistake to think that just because its a division lower, we will automaticly be ok |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 29, 2024 18:48:22 GMT 1
Do you fancy a wager? If you think we are battling relegation I'll give you us finishing in 16-24th place & I'll have 1-15th.... you on for that? No thanks, I may be struggling for optimism but never could I bring myself to bet on us finishing in the bottom 4, nor could I ever take any pleasure from being right. If we get the pace injection we need it could be a different picture and then I would be delighted to be wrong. I'm just struggling to see past last seasons woes, mostly because I still see them, especially defensively and lack of fire power, put those 2 together and you are not going to do very well, in any division. I think its a mistake to think that just because its a division lower, we will automaticly be ok That's fair enough, mate, we're all entitled to an opinion. I've watched all the full pre-season games this season & I see a completely different team to that of last season. It really seems to me that Duff has got everyone back together again, they look fit, organised & there is a clear identity we want to play. They are all showing for the ball & are working for each other. There are already some much needed changes in personnel & we've improved the squad by bringing in players that have been top end League 1 players in the very recent past, with a few more to come. There is no way I can envisage us not challenging for promotion. It's not going to be easy but we have no reason to think we can't compete, time will tell but I reckon we will be top 6. |
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Post by willo on Jul 29, 2024 20:40:01 GMT 1
Main difference between this season and last is we now have a proper manager. Warnock was only there for 5 minutes, Moore was an absolute joke of a guy generally and I struggle to see what Breitenreiter did other than ultimately take us down. I like Duff and even though presently we are still lacking bodies in key areas, I don’t think he’ll stand for any nonsense and will have us organised. I don’t see play-offs being beyond us but we do need 2-3 good players in for this and certainly not be losing Helik and likely Nichols too. I also thought we would have been more proactive in the window up to now but we all know this’ll go right to the death at the end of August, it generally does. With no further ins or outs, I reckon top 10. With the right recruitment, should be top 6, even with the hangover of last season. We also have players who should have a point to prove and who owe the supporters after some of the displays last season on top of a relegation on their CV.
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Post by dxterrier on Jul 29, 2024 21:26:56 GMT 1
No thanks, I may be struggling for optimism but never could I bring myself to bet on us finishing in the bottom 4, nor could I ever take any pleasure from being right. If we get the pace injection we need it could be a different picture and then I would be delighted to be wrong. I'm just struggling to see past last seasons woes, mostly because I still see them, especially defensively and lack of fire power, put those 2 together and you are not going to do very well, in any division. I think its a mistake to think that just because its a division lower, we will automaticly be ok That's fair enough, mate, we're all entitled to an opinion. I've watched all the full pre-season games this season & I see a completely different team to that of last season. It really seems to me that Duff has got everyone back together again, they look fit, organised & there is a clear identity we want to play. They are all showing for the ball & are working for each other. There are already some much needed changes in personnel & we've improved the squad by bringing in players that have been top end League 1 players in the very recent past, with a few more to come. There is no way I can envisage us not challenging for promotion. It's not going to be easy but we have no reason to think we can't compete, time will tell but I reckon we will be top 6. I sincerely hope you are right, I totally do, I guess last season damaged me more than I thought, as a depression sufferer positivity isn't always easy to acheive....I'm harmless really and certainly no WUM |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jul 29, 2024 22:09:23 GMT 1
That's fair enough, mate, we're all entitled to an opinion. I've watched all the full pre-season games this season & I see a completely different team to that of last season. It really seems to me that Duff has got everyone back together again, they look fit, organised & there is a clear identity we want to play. They are all showing for the ball & are working for each other. There are already some much needed changes in personnel & we've improved the squad by bringing in players that have been top end League 1 players in the very recent past, with a few more to come. There is no way I can envisage us not challenging for promotion. It's not going to be easy but we have no reason to think we can't compete, time will tell but I reckon we will be top 6. I sincerely hope you are right, I totally do, I guess last season damaged me more than I thought, as a depression sufferer positivity isn't always easy to acheive....I'm harmless really and certainly no WUM I wish you all the very best mate, it isn't easy at all. |
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Post by htafcokay on Jul 29, 2024 23:10:51 GMT 1
That's fair enough, mate, we're all entitled to an opinion. I've watched all the full pre-season games this season & I see a completely different team to that of last season. It really seems to me that Duff has got everyone back together again, they look fit, organised & there is a clear identity we want to play. They are all showing for the ball & are working for each other. There are already some much needed changes in personnel & we've improved the squad by bringing in players that have been top end League 1 players in the very recent past, with a few more to come. There is no way I can envisage us not challenging for promotion. It's not going to be easy but we have no reason to think we can't compete, time will tell but I reckon we will be top 6. I sincerely hope you are right, I totally do, I guess last season damaged me more than I thought, as a depression sufferer positivity isn't always easy to acheive....I'm harmless really and certainly no WUM I know exactly how you feel. And agree with your points. Some of us take it all too seriously and to heart and find it devastating when we lose, whereas others are able to not let the results bother them and can walk out of the ground on a Saturday and get on with the rest of their weekend. Sadly, I'm the former rather than the latter. |
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Post by ColchTerrier on Jul 29, 2024 23:13:41 GMT 1
As said before we really need to be getting as close to 30pts from the first 10 games as we can do.
Keep Nichols/Helik/ Spencer and add a proven scorer even though a fit healey would get 20+ and we’ll be up there. Added to that Koroma has looked like he’s really up for it.
Roll on Peterborough.
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Post by dxterrier on Jul 29, 2024 23:23:11 GMT 1
I sincerely hope you are right, I totally do, I guess last season damaged me more than I thought, as a depression sufferer positivity isn't always easy to acheive....I'm harmless really and certainly no WUM I wish you all the very best mate, it isn't easy at all. Appreciate that mate, Thank you |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Jul 30, 2024 15:08:26 GMT 1
The season previews will be starting to come out over the next week. Here’s one from Gab Sutton (an unbiased FL watcher).
He has us down for 5th place.
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Post by irverino on Jul 30, 2024 16:14:45 GMT 1
The season previews will be starting to come out over the next week. Here’s one from Gab Sutton (an unbiased FL watcher). He has us down for 5th place. Wrexham, Barnsley & Peterborough all finishing in the bottom half, I'm not sure I agree with that........3rd (Wigan) v 4th (Charlton) one of the opening fixtures next week, interesting. |
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Post by dezzly on Jul 30, 2024 16:21:19 GMT 1
The season previews will be starting to come out over the next week. Here’s one from Gab Sutton (an unbiased FL watcher). He has us down for 5th place. Wrexham, Barnsley & Peterborough all finishing in the bottom half, I'm not sure I agree with that........3rd (Wigan) v 4th (Charlton) one of the opening fixtures next week, interesting. I thought the same.though he seems to backup his selections fairly well.Barnsley in 17th seems a bit left field. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Jul 30, 2024 16:34:04 GMT 1
A lot can change with the window still open, additions or departures can massively change things. I’m eagerly awaiting the NTT20 boys, see what they think.
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Post by dezzly on Jul 30, 2024 17:12:09 GMT 1
A lot can change with the window still open, additions or departures can massively change things. I’m eagerly awaiting the NTT20 boys, see what they think. Would imagine their pod will be early next week.usually a good listen |
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Post by irverino on Aug 1, 2024 23:13:48 GMT 1
Just one week to kick off, do we expect to be in the top six most of the season?.......Yes, Yes, Yes,..UTT.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Aug 4, 2024 7:22:34 GMT 1
And the NTT20 guys have us down to finish third, behind Brum and Bolton. (P.s. not actually listened to it yet, just skimmed through the AI transcript). Podcast link |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 4, 2024 8:36:09 GMT 1
A lot of neutrals seem to have higher expectations of us than I do.
Personally I don't think we're there yet. Another 3-4 players needed and that assumes that nobody leaves.
Most optimistic perspective:
* Nobody else leaves (unless kids on loan or shifting less important ones like High, Austerfield, Hudlin)
* Pacey left footed CB in who can pick a pass
* Defensive midfielder in
* A couple of strikers in to add pace, power and the ability to work in tight spaces.
Most pessimistic perspective:
* Helik, Nicholls and Spencer leave.
* Nobody else in.
If the former, I'd put us second (which I think Bolton look favourites for at the moment).
If the latter, I think we're bottom half (albeit still safe from relegation).
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 4, 2024 8:47:19 GMT 1
canuckterrier did a predictor game last season. Any plans to do one for this season? Then we can all look like a bunch of clueless twats in May.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 4, 2024 9:05:36 GMT 1
I sincerely hope you are right, I totally do, I guess last season damaged me more than I thought, as a depression sufferer positivity isn't always easy to acheive....I'm harmless really and certainly no WUM I know exactly how you feel. And agree with your points. Some of us take it all too seriously and to heart and find it devastating when we lose, whereas others are able to not let the results bother them and can walk out of the ground on a Saturday and get on with the rest of their weekend. Sadly, I'm the former rather than the latter. All it might be, is that they’re walking out of the ground knowing there are bigger things ahead of them that weekend, that month, that year… Or it could be that they’re looking forward to something of a positive nature of course. Horses for courses and all that. It’s the rich tapestry of life, good and bad… Back OT, I haven’t a scoobies how we’ll do, as usual the ten game barometer will probably decide it. The team need a decent start though, because there’s still a lot of baggage in this club that needs to stay well below the surface if we’re to have a decent season. |
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Post by captainblack on Aug 4, 2024 9:07:32 GMT 1
A lot of neutrals seem to have higher expectations of us than I do. Personally I don't think we're there yet. Another 3-4 players needed and that assumes that nobody leaves. Most optimistic perspective: * Nobody else leaves (unless kids on loan or shifting less important ones like High, Austerfield, Hudlin) * Pacey left footed CB in who can pick a pass * Defensive midfielder in * A couple of strikers in to add pace, power and the ability to work in tight spaces. Most pessimistic perspective: * Helik, Nicholls and Spencer leave. * Nobody else in. If the former, I'd put us second (which I think Bolton look favourites for at the moment). If the latter, I think we're bottom half (albeit still safe from relegation). Its all conjecture at the moment Tinpot as we still have time to add to the squad , and as you rightly said, some players could leave. My hope is we add to the squad shortly, and only certain fringe players leave. I think we will finish in the top 8, but an influx of decent transfers mean we finish top 4. Peterborough will be a good test of where we are. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 4, 2024 9:10:36 GMT 1
A lot of neutrals seem to have higher expectations of us than I do. Personally I don't think we're there yet. Another 3-4 players needed and that assumes that nobody leaves. Most optimistic perspective: * Nobody else leaves (unless kids on loan or shifting less important ones like High, Austerfield, Hudlin) * Pacey left footed CB in who can pick a pass * Defensive midfielder in * A couple of strikers in to add pace, power and the ability to work in tight spaces. Most pessimistic perspective: * Helik, Nicholls and Spencer leave.* Nobody else in. If the former, I'd put us second (which I think Bolton look favourites for at the moment). If the latter, I think we're bottom half (albeit still safe from relegation). Quite a number of Blades fans were impressed with Nicholls & dropping hints to the club (via SM) to make a bid for him.......Do we know what sort of late offer it would take for Town to accept? |
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Post by terrierforever on Aug 4, 2024 9:18:54 GMT 1
Another prediction preview.
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Post by conman on Aug 4, 2024 10:13:19 GMT 1
One half decent goalscoring striker to come in and we're up . Really looking forward to this season , and hopefully more smiling than head shaking at the final whistle..
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 4, 2024 11:19:40 GMT 1
The main one
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Post by canuckterrier on Aug 4, 2024 13:52:21 GMT 1
canuckterrier did a predictor game last season. Any plans to do one for this season? Then we can all look like a bunch of clueless twats in May. Working on it as we speak. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 4, 2024 13:52:49 GMT 1
Where's Jack's fucking super computer when you need it?
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Post by conman on Aug 4, 2024 15:06:14 GMT 1
Where's Jack's fucking super computer when you need it? Fuck Jack |
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Post by conman on Aug 4, 2024 15:07:02 GMT 1
Where's Jack's fucking super computer when you need it? Fuck Jack Edit.. Fuck Jack's super computer |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 4, 2024 15:17:55 GMT 1
Where's Jack's fucking super computer when you need it? If Jack's the guy who guaranteed we were staying up last season then I'd rather pick the list at random! |
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Post by htfcterry on Aug 4, 2024 20:19:03 GMT 1
Where's Jack's fucking super computer when you need it? Jacks super computer was more entertaining than the games last season. Although it did malfunction. |
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