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Post by Dan on Aug 4, 2024 23:06:47 GMT 1
34% going for a top 2 finish. Seen a few on the League 1 Table Prediction thread going for Brum 1st and Town 2nd as well, so thought I'd highlight a decent few bets for the season:
Birmingham 1st, Town 2nd: 25/1 - Skybet
Town and Birmingham to be top 2 (in any order): 16/1 - Skybet
Personally think we end up 3rd or 4th as I can't quite compute Town getting automatically promoted as I've never seen it happen.
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Post by htfcterry on Aug 4, 2024 23:36:53 GMT 1
34% going for a top 2 finish. Seen a few on the League 1 Table Prediction thread going for Brum 1st and Town 2nd as well, so thought I'd highlight a decent few bets for the season: Birmingham 1st, Town 2nd: 25/1 - Skybet Town and Birmingham to be top 2 (in any order): 16/1 - Skybet Personally think we end up 3rd or 4th as I can't quite compute Town getting automatically promoted as I've never seen it happen. I've put Town and Brum in the top 2, mainly out of pure optimism. It's the hope that kills you. Heart says I'm right, head says I'm deluded |
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Post by irverino on Aug 5, 2024 7:51:04 GMT 1
34% going for a top 2 finish. Seen a few on the League 1 Table Prediction thread going for Brum 1st and Town 2nd as well, so thought I'd highlight a decent few bets for the season: Birmingham 1st, Town 2nd: 25/1 - Skybet Town and Birmingham to be top 2 (in any order): 16/1 - Skybet Personally think we end up 3rd or 4th as I can't quite compute Town getting automatically promoted as I've never seen it happen. Each way title bet pays up to 4th place @2.4/1. Top L1 goalscorer odds for Town are Healey 28/1, Bojan 40/1, Koroma 100/1 & Ward 150/1......Overall May is favourite @9/2, Clarke-Harris 10/1, Charles, Mullin & Rhodes 14/1, further down list Jutkiewicz & Gregory @100/1, Kachunga & Simpson @150/1 |
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Post by ruggedivy on Aug 5, 2024 9:00:44 GMT 1
Not the Top 20 pod has us down to finish 3rd.
Brum 1st, Bolton 2nd.
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Post by dezzly on Aug 5, 2024 9:14:38 GMT 1
Not the Top 20 pod has us down to finish 3rd. Brum 1st, Bolton 2nd. Yes….interesting that they have dinstinctky higher opinions of our existing squad than most of the fans do. Sometimes an outside voice can be a more measured one. Or they could just be completely wrong 😂 |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 5, 2024 9:43:57 GMT 1
Not the Top 20 pod has us down to finish 3rd. Brum 1st, Bolton 2nd. Yes….interesting that they have dinstinctky higher opinions of our existing squad than most of the fans do. Sometimes an outside voice can be a more measured one. Or they could just be completely wrong 😂 Yep. Both theories have merit. For me, I just see 3 or 4 potentially glaring weaknesses still in the squad to be addressed, and 3 key players (Nicholls, Helik and Spencer) that we still might lose. |
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Post by dezzly on Aug 5, 2024 9:58:36 GMT 1
Yes….interesting that they have dinstinctky higher opinions of our existing squad than most of the fans do. Sometimes an outside voice can be a more measured one. Or they could just be completely wrong 😂 Yep. Both theories have merit. For me, I just see 3 or 4 potentially glaring weaknesses still in the squad to be addressed, and 3 key players (Nicholls, Helik and Spencer) that we still might lose. As it stands I’m not worried about losing Spencer or Nicholls.I don’t imagine they go.Certainly not Spencer and keepers are generally easier to replace than most positions. Helik could go I suppose,there are the Luton links but I’m sure the club would have a cut off point and already someone in mind to leave time for a replacement.He’s a good player but feel we could replace. We’re clearly in for a striker(or 2) and one imagine one way or the other we get one if not both the two reported,if they’re the targets at some point Luton will have to make a decision. The area I am most bothered about are the wider centre halves,we may negate the lack of natural pace(down one side) tactically but that we won’t know until we get going,it might be an area we have scouted for if 2/3 games in duff thinks it is an issue,it maybe that we end up been fine there as we are well stocked numbers wise. And of players we already have,I think that attitude/mentality and what duff can instill could decide how they do back at this level for a fair few,as many were up there at this level previously which is why we signed them initially. Still time,iv been a bit up and down myself across the summer but there is still time to make adjustments into the season as most sides will. |
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Post by irverino on Aug 5, 2024 10:43:24 GMT 1
Yep. Both theories have merit. For me, I just see 3 or 4 potentially glaring weaknesses still in the squad to be addressed, and 3 key players (Nicholls, Helik and Spencer) that we still might lose. As it stands I’m not worried about losing Spencer or Nicholls.I don’t imagine they go.Certainly not Spencer and keepers are generally easier to replace than most positions. Helik could go I suppose,there are the Luton links but I’m sure the club would have a cut off point and already someone in mind to leave time for a replacement.He’s a good player but feel we could replace. We’re clearly in for a striker(or 2) and one imagine one way or the other we get one if not both the two reported,if they’re the targets at some point Luton will have to make a decision. The area I am most bothered about are the wider centre halves,we may negate the lack of natural pace(down one side) tactically but that we won’t know until we get going,it might be an area we have scouted for if 2/3 games in duff thinks it is an issue,it maybe that we end up been fine there as we are well stocked numbers wise. And of players we already have,I think that attitude/mentality and what duff can instill could decide how they do back at this level for a fair few,as many were up there at this level previously which is why we signed them initially. Still time,iv been a bit up and down myself across the summer but there is still time to make adjustments into the season as most sides will. Thought it was Luton & Swansea for Nicholls, I've heard Hertha Berlin possibly for Helik & Sunderland could approach for Spencer, the players seem happy to stay at present......If offers come in around the asking price we could be well buggered, especially on/near to deadline day. |
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Post by dezzly on Aug 5, 2024 10:59:24 GMT 1
As it stands I’m not worried about losing Spencer or Nicholls.I don’t imagine they go.Certainly not Spencer and keepers are generally easier to replace than most positions. Helik could go I suppose,there are the Luton links but I’m sure the club would have a cut off point and already someone in mind to leave time for a replacement.He’s a good player but feel we could replace. We’re clearly in for a striker(or 2) and one imagine one way or the other we get one if not both the two reported,if they’re the targets at some point Luton will have to make a decision. The area I am most bothered about are the wider centre halves,we may negate the lack of natural pace(down one side) tactically but that we won’t know until we get going,it might be an area we have scouted for if 2/3 games in duff thinks it is an issue,it maybe that we end up been fine there as we are well stocked numbers wise. And of players we already have,I think that attitude/mentality and what duff can instill could decide how they do back at this level for a fair few,as many were up there at this level previously which is why we signed them initially. Still time,iv been a bit up and down myself across the summer but there is still time to make adjustments into the season as most sides will. Thought it was Luton & Swansea for Nicholls, I've heard Hertha Berlin possibly for Helik & Sunderland could approach for Spencer, the players seem happy to stay at present......If offers come in around the asking price we could be well buggered, especially on/near to deadline day. Iv only heard Luton for Helik none of the others but don’t claim to know much. I think yes if offers come they might test us/players but think they’d have to be fairly substantial ie worth doing.Am I right in thinking all three of those players are out of contract next summer also. |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 5, 2024 11:00:26 GMT 1
Yep. Both theories have merit. For me, I just see 3 or 4 potentially glaring weaknesses still in the squad to be addressed, and 3 key players (Nicholls, Helik and Spencer) that we still might lose. As it stands I’m not worried about losing Spencer or Nicholls.I don’t imagine they go.Certainly not Spencer and keepers are generally easier to replace than most positions. Helik could go I suppose,there are the Luton links but I’m sure the club would have a cut off point and already someone in mind to leave time for a replacement.He’s a good player but feel we could replace. We’re clearly in for a striker(or 2) and one imagine one way or the other we get one if not both the two reported,if they’re the targets at some point Luton will have to make a decision. The area I am most bothered about are the wider centre halves,we may negate the lack of natural pace(down one side) tactically but that we won’t know until we get going,it might be an area we have scouted for if 2/3 games in duff thinks it is an issue,it maybe that we end up been fine there as we are well stocked numbers wise. And of players we already have,I think that attitude/mentality and what duff can instill could decide how they do back at this level for a fair few,as many were up there at this level previously which is why we signed them initially. Still time,iv been a bit up and down myself across the summer but there is still time to make adjustments into the season as most sides will. Yeah, I've based my prediction on how good we (and everyone else) are now - i.e. nobody else in or out. I expect there'll still be transfer business done in and out before the transfer window gently closes (I'm fed up of it slamming shut, must be terrible for the glazing). |
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Post by trevuptop on Aug 5, 2024 12:31:43 GMT 1
Thought it was Luton & Swansea for Nicholls, I've heard Hertha Berlin possibly for Helik & Sunderland could approach for Spencer, the players seem happy to stay at present......If offers come in around the asking price we could be well buggered, especially on/near to deadline day. Iv only heard Luton for Helik none of the others but don’t claim to know much. I think yes if offers come they might test us/players but think they’d have to be fairly substantial ie worth doing.Am I right in thinking all three of those players are out of contract next summer also. Only Spencer is out of contract next summer. Pretty sure we have a year extension option for Helik which takes him to 2026 along with Nichols |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Aug 5, 2024 12:50:34 GMT 1
John Percy done a good piece in the telegraph on why Birmingham are rightly favourites for the League one title. Actions speak louder than words and they've blown us right out of the water. Not that it should be a surprise, KN has talked a great game since day 1 particularly on X but delivered zilch so far. Can't actually remember the quote for what he said about this summer but its been underwhelming either way.
Thankfully I think Duff is a good coach just a shame he hasn't been backed I imagine as he expected to be.
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Post by willo on Aug 5, 2024 13:22:55 GMT 1
I think the business we have done so far has been decent, both in terms of incomings and outgoings, but we likely need another 2/3 and that’s before we were to potentially lose any of our better players.
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Post by King Neil on Aug 5, 2024 13:38:54 GMT 1
John Percy done a good piece in the telegraph on why Birmingham are rightly favourites for the League one title. Actions speak louder than words and they've blown us right out of the water. Not that it should be a surprise, KN has talked a great game since day 1 particularly on X but delivered zilch so far. Can't actually remember the quote for what he said about this summer but its been underwhelming either way. Thankfully I think Duff is a good coach just a shame he hasn't been backed I imagine as he expected to be. He even had a dig at our past owner Well kev..I'd rather be a bottom half championship club for a decade than be in league one All talk and no action I couldn't give a fcuk if the stadium is falling apart...its a decent team we need not fancy dressing rooms |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 5, 2024 13:40:30 GMT 1
I think the business we have done so far has been decent, both in terms of incomings and outgoings, but we likely need another 2/3 and that’s before we were to potentially lose any of our better players. But the glaring weakness is still there and shows no sign of being addressed. |
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Post by NoToTrumpDonors on Aug 5, 2024 13:43:22 GMT 1
I’m sure Nagle will spring into action and snipe at the manager from the US on his twitter account if things go badly.
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Post by Ladaphosen on Aug 5, 2024 13:48:56 GMT 1
I’m sure Nagle will spring into action and snipe at the manager from the US on his twitter account if things go badly. In 'surgical' way of course |
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Post by Dan on Aug 5, 2024 13:52:53 GMT 1
John Percy done a good piece in the telegraph on why Birmingham are rightly favourites for the League one title. Actions speak louder than words and they've blown us right out of the water. Not that it should be a surprise, KN has talked a great game since day 1 particularly on X but delivered zilch so far. Can't actually remember the quote for what he said about this summer but its been underwhelming either way. Thankfully I think Duff is a good coach just a shame he hasn't been backed I imagine as he expected to be. He even had a dig at our past owner Well kev..I'd rather be a bottom half championship club for a decade than be in league one All talk and no action I couldn't give a fcuk if the stadium is falling apart...its a decent team we need not fancy dressing rooms Wahey! Didn't think it would be too long before spending a load of money on improving the ground would get thrown back in his face with that sort of comment. Expected it a few weeks earlier tbh, disappointing... |
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Post by King Neil on Aug 5, 2024 13:58:06 GMT 1
He even had a dig at our past owner Well kev..I'd rather be a bottom half championship club for a decade than be in league one All talk and no action I couldn't give a fcuk if the stadium is falling apart...its a decent team we need not fancy dressing rooms Wahey! Didn't think it would be too long before spending a load of money on improving the ground would get thrown back in his face with that sort of comment. Expected it a few weeks earlier tbh, disappointing... In your opinion yes Transfer window disappointing for me...in my opinion |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Aug 5, 2024 13:59:33 GMT 1
John Percy done a good piece in the telegraph on why Birmingham are rightly favourites for the League one title. Actions speak louder than words and they've blown us right out of the water. Not that it should be a surprise, KN has talked a great game since day 1 particularly on X but delivered zilch so far. Can't actually remember the quote for what he said about this summer but its been underwhelming either way. Thankfully I think Duff is a good coach just a shame he hasn't been backed I imagine as he expected to be. He even had a dig at our past owner Well kev..I'd rather be a bottom half championship club for a decade than be in league one All talk and no action I couldn't give a fcuk if the stadium is falling apart...its a decent team we need not fancy dressing rooms Birmingham have spent a fortune on their ground too by all accounts, so we can't even claim we've done them there either. Difference is they appear (please correct me if wrong) to have not needed to sell anybody to pay for it. We've just used part of the Rudoni money on ours, because it isn't getting spent on acquisitions by the looks. |
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Post by harri54 on Aug 5, 2024 16:53:51 GMT 1
He even had a dig at our past owner Well kev..I'd rather be a bottom half championship club for a decade than be in league one All talk and no action I couldn't give a fcuk if the stadium is falling apart...its a decent team we need not fancy dressing rooms Birmingham have spent a fortune on their ground too by all accounts, so we can't even claim we've done them there either. Difference is they appear (please correct me if wrong) to have not needed to sell anybody to pay for it. We've just used part of the Rudoni money on ours, because it isn't getting spent on acquisitions by the looks. I hadn't realised it was a dick swinging contest between seasons. |
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Post by willo on Aug 6, 2024 1:22:32 GMT 1
I think the business we have done so far has been decent, both in terms of incomings and outgoings, but we likely need another 2/3 and that’s before we were to potentially lose any of our better players. But the glaring weakness is still there and shows no sign of being addressed. Agreed. We have to hope the club are aware and will address before the month is out but I do like the look of Evans & Miller in particular. |
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Post by melbourneterrier on Aug 6, 2024 6:18:14 GMT 1
Get in a striker or 2, and a defensive mid and we're set for a top 2 finish imo.
Any key player leaves, would then need to replaced.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 6, 2024 7:08:13 GMT 1
Get in a striker or 2, and a defensive mid and we're set for a top 2 finish imo. Any key player leaves, would then need to replaced. I personally think we need a really good DM, 2 reliable strikers and a left footed CB. If it was only 3 out of the 4 I’d go without the left footed CB, but that would up the risk and probably see us more flirting with 3rd-10th, whereas all 4 positions filled,I think gets us 1st-4th. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 6, 2024 14:31:48 GMT 1
Finally voted, plumping for play-offs. The core was there, albeit in an unbalanced fashion which cost us. We've added balance in the middle and at wing-back. But there isn't the depth in all positions to challenge at the very top to my mind. Not enough variety, and reliant on players who should be providing options and alternatives to be first-choice.
At the same time, Josh Ruffels is our third-choice left wing-back. How many other clubs in this division would kill for that quality in reserve, bearing in mind his track record at this level?
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 6, 2024 14:38:30 GMT 1
Finally voted, plumping for play-offs. The core was there, albeit in an unbalanced fashion which cost us. We've added balance in the middle and at wing-back. But there isn't the depth in all positions to challenge at the very top to my mind. Not enough variety, and reliant on players who should be providing options and alternatives to be first-choice. At the same time, Josh Ruffels is our third-choice left wing-back. How many other clubs in this division would kill for that quality in reserve, bearing in mind his track record at this level?What quality is this? Ruffels is an extremely average footballer who has shown very little during his time here bar a few games under Neil Warnock. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 6, 2024 14:54:08 GMT 1
Finally voted, plumping for play-offs. The core was there, albeit in an unbalanced fashion which cost us. We've added balance in the middle and at wing-back. But there isn't the depth in all positions to challenge at the very top to my mind. Not enough variety, and reliant on players who should be providing options and alternatives to be first-choice. At the same time, Josh Ruffels is our third-choice left wing-back. How many other clubs in this division would kill for that quality in reserve, bearing in mind his track record at this level?What quality is this? Ruffels is an extremely average footballer who has shown very little during his time here bar a few games under Neil Warnock. In the Championship. Yeah, he's been exposed at times, but he's been better than you say. No chance in his first season behind the best left-back in the division. First choice the season after, where he was OK (suspect defensively, did all right going forward). Would have been first choice last season but for being injured for the bulk of it. He was in the team of the year last time he played at this level. Looking at left-back options, I'd argue that he starts for more than half of the sides in this division. 180 games, 20 goals, 15 assists. A starter week-in, week-out for play-off hopefuls who went to better himself a division above after being offered a contract. It hasn't worked out a division above, sure. But as third choice streets ahead of what others have. If we go up, we need better - regardless, I'd hope we're not renewing his contract at the end of this season unless he has a storming campaign. But as a squad option in this division he's a luxury that many just do not have. If Miller and Headley should be injured, Ruffels is more than good enough to step into the breach - a proven player at this level. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 6, 2024 14:58:08 GMT 1
What quality is this? Ruffels is an extremely average footballer who has shown very little during his time here bar a few games under Neil Warnock. In the Championship. Yeah, he's been exposed at times, but he's been better than you say. No chance in his first season behind the best left-back in the division. First choice the season after, where he was OK (suspect defensively, did all right going forward). Would have been first choice last season but for being injured for the bulk of it. He was in the team of the year last time he played at this level. Looking at left-back options, I'd argue that he starts for more than half of the sides in this division. 180 games, 20 goals, 15 assists. A starter week-in, week-out for play-off hopefuls who went to better himself a division above after being offered a contract. It hasn't worked out a division above, sure. But as third choice streets ahead of what others have. If we go up, we need better - regardless, I'd hope we're not renewing his contract at the end of this season unless he has a storming campaign. But as a squad option in this division he's a luxury that many just do not have. If Miller and Headley should be injured, Ruffels is more than good enough to step into the breach - a proven player at this level. I think you're massively overstating how good he's been here. |
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Post by Terriersmad on Aug 6, 2024 15:03:25 GMT 1
In the Championship. Yeah, he's been exposed at times, but he's been better than you say. No chance in his first season behind the best left-back in the division. First choice the season after, where he was OK (suspect defensively, did all right going forward). Would have been first choice last season but for being injured for the bulk of it. He was in the team of the year last time he played at this level. Looking at left-back options, I'd argue that he starts for more than half of the sides in this division. 180 games, 20 goals, 15 assists. A starter week-in, week-out for play-off hopefuls who went to better himself a division above after being offered a contract. It hasn't worked out a division above, sure. But as third choice streets ahead of what others have. If we go up, we need better - regardless, I'd hope we're not renewing his contract at the end of this season unless he has a storming campaign. But as a squad option in this division he's a luxury that many just do not have. If Miller and Headley should be injured, Ruffels is more than good enough to step into the breach - a proven player at this level. I think you're massively overstating how good he's been here. 'Been OK' isn't massively overstating anything. It's saying he's not been great and hasn't been awful. There's a middle ground. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 6, 2024 15:07:48 GMT 1
I think you're massively overstating how good he's been here. 'Been OK' isn't massively overstating anything. It's saying he's not been great and hasn't been awful. There's a middle ground. I said he was average. There's your middle ground. |
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