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Post by leroy212 on May 16, 2024 12:49:26 GMT 1
SkyBet have us second favourites currently behind Brummies In the Championship next season they have Plymouth favourites to go down with PNE & Cardiff next........Not sure why two mid table teams should all of a sudden become bottom three candidates, have I missed something? That is strange especially as both were in with a shot at the play offs towards end of season |
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Post by soapystevens on May 16, 2024 19:36:43 GMT 1
League will be very tough look how long it took us to get out of it last time and we had a very good side. I think it might take us 2/3 seasons before we bounce back.
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Post by mallyb on May 16, 2024 19:40:11 GMT 1
League will be very tough look how long it took us to get out of it last time and we had a very good side. I think it might take us 2/3 seasons before we bounce back. You are a ray of sunshine with every post. Let em know if you need the samaritans number |
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Post by Sio on May 16, 2024 19:50:24 GMT 1
League will be very tough look how long it took us to get out of it last time and we had a very good side. I think it might take us 2/3 seasons before we bounce back. By recent standards it's actually a very weak looking League One - nothing at all to suggest it will be 'very tough'. Of course, we need to build a cohesive side first. |
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Post by terrierneil on May 16, 2024 19:58:03 GMT 1
Seen it all before. Thinking we will be promoted first attempt is delusion. We will struggle like fuck just like last time.
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Post by King Neil on May 16, 2024 20:37:01 GMT 1
Seen it all before. Thinking we will be promoted first attempt is delusion. We will struggle like fuck just like last time. We nearly got promoted the first season! We lost to Brentford in playoffs |
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Post by htfcterry on May 16, 2024 20:41:44 GMT 1
Seen it all before. Thinking we will be promoted first attempt is delusion. We will struggle like fuck just like last time. We nearly got promoted the first season! We lost to Brentford in playoffs 2 harsh disallowed goals in the home leg too wasn't there? |
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Post by King Neil on May 16, 2024 20:47:46 GMT 1
We nearly got promoted the first season! We lost to Brentford in playoffs 2 harsh disallowed goals in the home leg too wasn't there? I can only really remember the second leg..we were in the open end this time the opposite end to the promotion season one...I think it was Ben burgess that got the winner Granted after that it did go tits up but that was mainly down to the Rubery fiasco and the club being skint Totally different this time |
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2024 21:15:22 GMT 1
Is anybody gonna say they'll show their arse on the Town Hall steps if we don't go up?
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Post by dezzly on May 16, 2024 21:17:48 GMT 1
League will be very tough look how long it took us to get out of it last time and we had a very good side. I think it might take us 2/3 seasons before we bounce back. By recent standards it's actually a very weak looking League One - nothing at all to suggest it will be 'very tough'. Of course, we need to build a cohesive side first. In terms of the so called “bigger” clubs it does look weaker yes.I wonder though will that make it more competitive? |
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Post by Horney Barry on May 16, 2024 22:02:46 GMT 1
I actually think we will finish as champions. We have never had such financial backing in the third tier so you cannot compare it to previous times.
We need an impressive transfer window naturally but announcing Duff as quickly as we have shows the intent.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2024 22:37:32 GMT 1
I actually think we will finish as champions. We have never had such financial backing in the third tier so you cannot compare it to previous times. We need an impressive transfer window naturally but announcing Duff as quickly as we have shows the intent. Agreed. Think it’ll take 3-5 games for our first win. But then i think we’ll string a few together and finish 3rd-1st(Not quite champions as i cannot see past rotherham/brum!) Hope we can get some good players in with the backing off Sir Kev though, and not sone dross. |
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Post by Big Ern on May 16, 2024 23:43:19 GMT 1
I actually think we will finish as champions. We have never had such financial backing in the third tier so you cannot compare it to previous times. We need an impressive transfer window naturally but announcing Duff as quickly as we have shows the intent. Agreed. Think it’ll take 3-5 games for our first win. But then i think we’ll string a few together and finish 3rd-1st(Not quite champions as i cannot see past rotherham/brum!) Hope we can get some good players in with the backing off Sir Kev though, and not sone dross. In no way shape or form are Rotherham better than us. Even with the shite we had last season we were still streets ahead. We have much more backing |
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Post by Big Jim on May 16, 2024 23:57:53 GMT 1
I actually think we will finish as champions. We have never had such financial backing in the third tier so you cannot compare it to previous times. We need an impressive transfer window naturally but announcing Duff as quickly as we have shows the intent. Agreed. Think it’ll take 3-5 games for our first win. But then i think we’ll string a few together and finish 3rd-1st(Not quite champions as i cannot see past rotherham/brum!) Hope we can get some good players in with the backing off Sir Kev though, and not sone dross. I'm pretty certain that we won't be waiting 3-5 games for a win, and I'm more than certain that we're better than Rotherham!! |
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Post by uptownfunk on May 17, 2024 0:20:32 GMT 1
Having heard Duff for the first time I will be backing us for automatic promotion as soon as the odds come out. They’re going to back him this close season.
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Post by cyberman on May 17, 2024 19:11:51 GMT 1
Down by Xmas - total of 11 points all season as Sorba Thomas becomes player manager with Burgzog as his assistant
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Post by Tinpot on May 17, 2024 20:19:48 GMT 1
I said bottom half.
After listening to Michael Duff in the presser and the interview with Raj I'm a bit more optimistic.
We'll see who comes in and goes out, but the likelihood is that I'll have revised my opinion by the start of the season.
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Post by Tinpot on May 17, 2024 20:22:41 GMT 1
Agreed. Think it’ll take 3-5 games for our first win. But then i think we’ll string a few together and finish 3rd-1st(Not quite champions as i cannot see past rotherham/brum!) Hope we can get some good players in with the backing off Sir Kev though, and not sone dross. In no way shape or form are Rotherham better than us. Even with the shite we had last season we were still streets ahead. We have much more backing Must admit there are a few sides that I'd put ahead of Rotherham next season. Barring some really good business this summer I'm not particularly worried about them. |
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Post by Jack on May 18, 2024 18:57:10 GMT 1
In the last 19 seasons.... of the 57 teams relegated from the Championship only 15 have been promoted straight back the following year. Of those 15 promotions.... 7 were as champions, 5 as runners up and 3 via the play-offs. Statistically speaking that's just over a 25% probability we go back up next year. But if we do the chances (80%) are that it would be automatically. Interestingly only once have all 3 relegated teams been promoted the following year - 2017/18 (Wigan, Blackburn & Rotherham). Another interesting fact is that during those 19 seasons Rotherham have been relegated from the championship 5 times (!) and they have bounced back immediately 3 times. I'm fun at parties. Following on from the above post where I noted that in the past 19 years of the 57 teams relegated from the championship only 15 have bounced straight back.... for the more pessimistic of you it should also be noted of the 57 teams 6 have suffered back to back successive relegations down to league 2!! (Luton 07/08, Plymouth 10/11, Portsmouth 12/13, Yeovil 14/15, Blackpool 15/16 & Bolton 19/20) |
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Post by Jack on May 18, 2024 19:06:11 GMT 1
Last 19 years....
57 teams relegated from the championship, following season.
7 straight back up as champions (12%)
5 straight back up as runners up (9%)
3 straight back up via play-offs (5%)
11 failed in play-offs (19%)
25 mid table (44%)
6 relegated again (11%)
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Post by bluetit on May 18, 2024 19:10:47 GMT 1
Anything less than champions is failure even if we get promoted by other means
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Post by always a terrier on May 18, 2024 19:14:19 GMT 1
It’s just got abit more difficult with Bolton not getting promoted today. I’d be happy with top six finish. But I suspect we will finish mid table this season. Think they is far too much of a re build needed going into next season.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2024 19:14:36 GMT 1
Tough tough league next year
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Post by htafcokay on May 18, 2024 19:19:50 GMT 1
In the last 19 seasons.... of the 57 teams relegated from the Championship only 15 have been promoted straight back the following year. Of those 15 promotions.... 7 were as champions, 5 as runners up and 3 via the play-offs. Statistically speaking that's just over a 25% probability we go back up next year. But if we do the chances (80%) are that it would be automatically. Interestingly only once have all 3 relegated teams been promoted the following year - 2017/18 (Wigan, Blackburn & Rotherham). Another interesting fact is that during those 19 seasons Rotherham have been relegated from the championship 5 times (!) and they have bounced back immediately 3 times. I'm fun at parties. Following on from the above post where I noted that in the past 19 years of the 57 teams relegated from the championship only 15 have bounced straight back.... for the more pessimistic of you it should also be noted of the 57 teams 6 have suffered back to back successive relegations down to league 2!! (Luton 07/08, Plymouth 10/11, Portsmouth 12/13, Yeovil 14/15, Blackpool 15/16 & Bolton 19/20) And looking at our own history, from 10 relegations we've only managed to come straight back up on two occasions. |
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Post by goodbet on May 18, 2024 19:21:44 GMT 1
Following on from the above post where I noted that in the past 19 years of the 57 teams relegated from the championship only 15 have bounced straight back.... for the more pessimistic of you it should also be noted of the 57 teams 6 have suffered back to back successive relegations down to league 2!! (Luton 07/08, Plymouth 10/11, Portsmouth 12/13, Yeovil 14/15, Blackpool 15/16 & Bolton 19/20) And looking at our own history, from 10 relegations we've only managed to come straight back up on two occasions. Fan's don't like reality  |
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Post by Wingman on May 18, 2024 19:26:37 GMT 1
Tough tough league next year Nah. Birmingham will chuck money at it so they ought to be thereabouts, as will Posh. Barnsley, Rotherham, Charlton (maybe) will be in the mix but fall away. Wrexham will be mid-table at best, their surge has to end at some stage. Bolton will be a spent force after they didn’t turn up at Wembley today; Evatt looked a broken man. The rest are just league filler teams. Town? I’m going to keep my powder dry until the in’s and out’s start. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 18, 2024 19:28:16 GMT 1
Following on from the above post where I noted that in the past 19 years of the 57 teams relegated from the championship only 15 have bounced straight back.... for the more pessimistic of you it should also be noted of the 57 teams 6 have suffered back to back successive relegations down to league 2!! (Luton 07/08, Plymouth 10/11, Portsmouth 12/13, Yeovil 14/15, Blackpool 15/16 & Bolton 19/20) And looking at our own history, from 10 relegations we've only managed to come straight back up on two occasions. However, how many times have we been relegated with an owner who is willing to finance an immediate return? |
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Post by htafcokay on May 18, 2024 19:31:40 GMT 1
And looking at our own history, from 10 relegations we've only managed to come straight back up on two occasions. However, how many times have we been relegated with an owner who is willing to finance an immediate return? No idea. Hope you're right, as that squad is nowhere near good enough to go up. |
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Post by Terriersmad on May 18, 2024 19:45:00 GMT 1
In the last 19 seasons.... of the 57 teams relegated from the Championship only 15 have been promoted straight back the following year. Of those 15 promotions.... 7 were as champions, 5 as runners up and 3 via the play-offs. Statistically speaking that's just over a 25% probability we go back up next year. But if we do the chances (80%) are that it would be automatically. Interestingly only once have all 3 relegated teams been promoted the following year - 2017/18 (Wigan, Blackburn & Rotherham). Another interesting fact is that during those 19 seasons Rotherham have been relegated from the championship 5 times (!) and they have bounced back immediately 3 times. I'm fun at parties. Following on from the above post where I noted that in the past 19 years of the 57 teams relegated from the championship only 15 have bounced straight back.... for the more pessimistic of you it should also be noted of the 57 teams 6 have suffered back to back successive relegations down to league 2!! (Luton 07/08, Plymouth 10/11, Portsmouth 12/13, Yeovil 14/15, Blackpool 15/16 & Bolton 19/20) All of those have been in financial meltdown (apart from Yeovil, but they were suffering from being promoted a little too far for their resources, and one freakishly good season became the origin of their current predicament). We're not going to be one of them. I seem to recall Bolton playing a team one game with an average age of 17. |
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Post by Terriersmad on May 18, 2024 19:46:12 GMT 1
However, how many times have we been relegated with an owner who is willing to finance an immediate return? No idea. Hope you're right, as that squad is nowhere near good enough to go up. The coach will be well aware of the gaps in the playing staff. I suspect that we are in for an exciting summer in terms of arrivals. I expect the club to build a team with the aim of winning the division. But whether it does is the test. |
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