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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Jun 7, 2024 16:43:25 GMT 1
We have to be aiming for automatic for me, though not with the attitude of believing it'll be easy or that we have a divine right to promotion.
Whatever league you're in or how much of an underdog you are in that league, your target should always be to finish in top spot. You go into every game aiming to win, if you succeed in every game then you win the league.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jun 7, 2024 16:57:02 GMT 1
We have to be aiming for automatic for me, though not with the attitude of believing it'll be easy or that we have a divine right to promotion. Whatever league you're in or how much of an underdog you are in that league, your target should always be to finish in top spot. You go into every game aiming to win, if you succeed in every game then you win the league. Too right, that's the spirit. That should have been drilled in to Duff at his interview. |
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Jun 7, 2024 20:18:16 GMT 1
We have to be aiming for automatic for me, though not with the attitude of believing it'll be easy or that we have a divine right to promotion. Whatever league you're in or how much of an underdog you are in that league, your target should always be to finish in top spot. You go into every game aiming to win, if you succeed in every game then you win the league. Too right, that's the spirit. That should have been drilled in to Duff at his interview. It may well have been. There's definitely a place for publicly downplaying the ambition, so I'm not going to lose my shit if he's not overly gung-ho in interviews... but the attitude of the team and the way we set up needs to be ambitious and full of belief that we're a big dog in this league. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 7, 2024 20:23:19 GMT 1
Top half mid September
Top six December
Top two March
Champions late April
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Post by detox on Jun 7, 2024 21:37:22 GMT 1
Hard to say until transfer deadline has passed, but our current squad probably 15th, ish
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Post by irverino on Jun 11, 2024 23:38:46 GMT 1
Town will head to Austria just as our league one rivals Birmingham City end their tour in the region with a game against German Bundesliga side SC Padarborn 07 on July 13th, then returning to St Andrews to mark the one year anniversary of Trevor Francis passing for a pre season friendly with one of his former teams Rangers FC on July 24th.......League one fixtures released in a fortnight (Wed 26th @9am).
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Post by uptownfunk on Jun 12, 2024 2:38:36 GMT 1
If we start with this squad plus ball then I can see us champions.
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Post by erikbloodaxe on Jun 12, 2024 9:18:42 GMT 1
Top 2 for me!
Hopefully we can get off to a good start and get some confidence.
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Post by King Neil on Jun 12, 2024 13:17:03 GMT 1
Anything other than top 2 is unacceptable
We keep hearing plenty of talk..the time for talking is over
We should be spending big and blowing everyone else out of the water
No excuses kev
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Post by mosher on Jun 12, 2024 13:30:43 GMT 1
Anything other than top 2 is unacceptable We keep hearing plenty of talk..the time for talking is over We should be spending big and blowing everyone else out of the water No excuses kev It's football. We could spend £50m and still not finish top two. Would that still be KN's fault? Not a diss, just an observation, look how much Manure have spent in the last 5 years and they're still not pushing for the title. |
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Post by Ladaphosen on Jun 12, 2024 13:43:26 GMT 1
Anything other than top 2 is unacceptable We keep hearing plenty of talk..the time for talking is over We should be spending big and blowing everyone else out of the water No excuses kev It's football. We could spend £50m and still not finish top two. Would that still be KN's fault? Not a diss, just an observation, look how much Manure have spent in the last 5 years and they're still not pushing for the title. If you spend £50m in L1 and don't win the league by 20 points, its time to pack it in! |
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Post by mosher on Jun 12, 2024 13:49:13 GMT 1
It's football. We could spend £50m and still not finish top two. Would that still be KN's fault? Not a diss, just an observation, look how much Manure have spent in the last 5 years and they're still not pushing for the title. If you spend £50m in L1 and don't win the league by 20 points, its time to pack it in! I know mate, was using exaggeration to make a point  |
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Post by willo on Jun 12, 2024 13:49:21 GMT 1
As it stands, genuinely think the current team won’t see us much higher up than around halfway. With proper investment and 3/4/5 quality players coming in, we should be play-off candidates at least.
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Post by King Neil on Jun 12, 2024 14:27:16 GMT 1
Anything other than top 2 is unacceptable We keep hearing plenty of talk..the time for talking is over We should be spending big and blowing everyone else out of the water No excuses kev It's football. We could spend £50m and still not finish top two. Would that still be KN's fault? Not a diss, just an observation, look how much Manure have spent in the last 5 years and they're still not pushing for the title. It at least shortens the odds if you sign quality Dean had us in the L1 playoffs 3 seasons on the bounce yet apparently he never backed the club well enough! It's no good everyone bigging Mr nagle up and then thinking we can't even be confident of doing well You either think he,s the real deal or you don't He has a lot to do to be coming close to matching Dean hoyle,s achievements Time to back all the talking up... |
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Post by mosher on Jun 12, 2024 14:35:39 GMT 1
It's football. We could spend £50m and still not finish top two. Would that still be KN's fault? Not a diss, just an observation, look how much Manure have spent in the last 5 years and they're still not pushing for the title. It at least shortens the odds if you sign quality Dean had us in the L1 playoffs 3 seasons on the bounce yet apparently he never backed the club well enough! It's no good everyone bigging Mr nagle up and then thinking we can't even be confident of doing well You either think he,s the real deal or you don't
He has a lot to do to be coming close to matching Dean hoyle,s achievements Time to back all the talking up... Personally I do, but I realise that's just optimism speaking, which is unusual for me, I'm normally your typical dour pessimistic Yorkshireman when it comes to Town I think (hope?) we're all going to be pleasantly surprised in the next few weeks before the season starts. I've never derided DH's initial backing of the club so I hope that part wasn't directed at me, probably was just a general thing? The only thing I've even slightly criticised DH for is the parachute payment plan, but that's backfired on him as well as the club with him having to provide further funds with no guarantee of getting them back** ** I'm hoping our success in the future means he can have the cash agreed with KN |
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Post by malcolmbrown on Jun 12, 2024 14:43:34 GMT 1
I find out incredible that 1/3 of votes on here are for us to get automatic promotion (something we haven't done in 40+ years) and another 1/3 of us see us getting into the play offs.
Our club is in a complete mess from top to bottom. We have had 4 managers in the last year and only 9 wins.
Next season will be a success if we are safe on the last day of the season.
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Post by King Neil on Jun 12, 2024 14:46:35 GMT 1
It at least shortens the odds if you sign quality Dean had us in the L1 playoffs 3 seasons on the bounce yet apparently he never backed the club well enough! It's no good everyone bigging Mr nagle up and then thinking we can't even be confident of doing well You either think he,s the real deal or you don't
He has a lot to do to be coming close to matching Dean hoyle,s achievements Time to back all the talking up... Personally I do, but I realise that's just optimism speaking, which is unusual for me, I'm normally your typical dour pessimistic Yorkshireman when it comes to Town I think (hope?) we're all going to be pleasantly surprised in the next few weeks before the season starts. I've never derided DH's initial backing of the club so I hope that part wasn't directed at me, probably was just a general thing? The only thing I've even slightly criticised DH for is the parachute payment plan, but that's backfired on him as well as the club with him having to provide further funds with no guarantee of getting them back** ** I'm hoping our success in the future means he can have the cash agreed with KN I certainly wasn't having a dig at kev BTW Those 89 people and below need to be changing their votes to top 2 It's realistic with a billionaire owner who is willing to back us to expect and be confident of a top 2 finish Common everyone get some bloody fire in yer belly!!! HTAFC L1 champions 24/5 |
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Post by Terriersmad on Jun 12, 2024 14:51:10 GMT 1
I find out incredible that 1/3 of votes on here are for us to get automatic promotion (something we haven't done in 40+ years) and another 1/3 of us see us getting into the play offs. Our club is in a complete mess from top to bottom. We have had 4 managers in the last year and only 9 wins. Next season will be a success if we are safe on the last day of the season.Nonsense. |
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Post by malcolmbrown on Jun 12, 2024 14:57:18 GMT 1
I find out incredible that 1/3 of votes on here are for us to get automatic promotion (something we haven't done in 40+ years) and another 1/3 of us see us getting into the play offs. Our club is in a complete mess from top to bottom. We have had 4 managers in the last year and only 9 wins. Next season will be a success if we are safe on the last day of the season.Nonsense. Thank you Mr Cartwright |
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Post by mosher on Jun 12, 2024 15:04:48 GMT 1
I find out incredible that 1/3 of votes on here are for us to get automatic promotion (something we haven't done in 40+ years) and another 1/3 of us see us getting into the play offs. Our club is in a complete mess from top to bottom. We have had 4 managers in the last year and only 9 wins. Next season will be a success if we are safe on the last day of the season. Jesus I thought I was a pessimist |
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Post by mosher on Jun 12, 2024 15:06:00 GMT 1
Personally I do, but I realise that's just optimism speaking, which is unusual for me, I'm normally your typical dour pessimistic Yorkshireman when it comes to Town I think (hope?) we're all going to be pleasantly surprised in the next few weeks before the season starts. I've never derided DH's initial backing of the club so I hope that part wasn't directed at me, probably was just a general thing? The only thing I've even slightly criticised DH for is the parachute payment plan, but that's backfired on him as well as the club with him having to provide further funds with no guarantee of getting them back** ** I'm hoping our success in the future means he can have the cash agreed with KN I certainly wasn't having a dig at kev BTW Those 89 people and below need to be changing their votes to top 2 It's realistic with a billionaire owner who is willing to back us to expect and be confident of a top 2 finish Common everyone get some bloody fire in yer belly!!! HTAFC L1 champions 24/5 Down to 88, I could have sworn I'd picked top two in the first place, mustn't have been feeling quite so good when the poll first opened |
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Post by giveusanaitch on Jun 12, 2024 15:10:29 GMT 1
Mid-Table for me. It still doesn't look like a set of players that are going to tear teams apart in League One. I know a lot of the players are the same ones beating teams when Warnock kept them up but a full season is a different story. Even in League One I think they'll be scraping for results. I'd like to know what people are basing a top 2 finish on. Is it quality of player, money, size of the fish in the pond or just pure hope over actual expectation?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 12, 2024 15:19:05 GMT 1
Mid-Table for me. It still doesn't look like a set of players that are going to tear teams apart in League One. I know a lot of the players are the same ones beating teams when Warnock kept them up but a full season is a different story. Even in League One I think they'll be scraping for results. I'd like to know what people are basing a top 2 finish on. Is it quality of player, money, size of the fish in the pond or just pure hope over actual expectation? You reckon we'll have the same team as last season? Big overhaul incoming. |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 12, 2024 15:20:35 GMT 1
Mid-Table for me. It still doesn't look like a set of players that are going to tear teams apart in League One. I know a lot of the players are the same ones beating teams when Warnock kept them up but a full season is a different story. Even in League One I think they'll be scraping for results. I'd like to know what people are basing a top 2 finish on. Is it quality of player, money, size of the fish in the pond or just pure hope over actual expectation? Well for starters the transfer window hasn't even opened yet Fresh manager with good experience at this level..and in place in plenty of time before the transfer window opens A fanbase and home atmosphere only really being able to be matched by brum and Bolton A great financial advantage over every team in the division bar Birmingham If that can't give you a little confidence then I don't know what can as we have an incredibly strong advantage over them all but 1 |
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Post by giveusanaitch on Jun 12, 2024 15:29:06 GMT 1
Mid-Table for me. It still doesn't look like a set of players that are going to tear teams apart in League One. I know a lot of the players are the same ones beating teams when Warnock kept them up but a full season is a different story. Even in League One I think they'll be scraping for results. I'd like to know what people are basing a top 2 finish on. Is it quality of player, money, size of the fish in the pond or just pure hope over actual expectation? You reckon we'll have the same team as last season? Big overhaul incoming. To expect something before we've signed anyone puzzles me though. Transfer windows can go bad (ie last summer) or we can sign players who aren't good enough (ie January). Ambitions and aims are fine. To actually expect us to finish top 2 is where I have the issue. |
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Post by Moooooy on Jun 12, 2024 15:30:14 GMT 1
Mid-Table for me. It still doesn't look like a set of players that are going to tear teams apart in League One. I know a lot of the players are the same ones beating teams when Warnock kept them up but a full season is a different story. Even in League One I think they'll be scraping for results. I'd like to know what people are basing a top 2 finish on. Is it quality of player, money, size of the fish in the pond or just pure hope over actual expectation? You reckon we'll have the same team as last season? Big overhaul incoming. It needs to be. This squad is dreadful, needs totally gutting if we’re serious about doing owt. A lot of work to do and it’ll probably take a while for it all to click together. I reckon we’ll finish just outside the play offs, that gives us something to build on. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 12, 2024 16:00:45 GMT 1
You reckon we'll have the same team as last season? Big overhaul incoming. To expect something before we've signed anyone puzzles me though. Transfer windows can go bad (ie last summer) or we can sign players who aren't good enough (ie January). Ambitions and aims are fine. To actually expect us to finish top 2 is where I have the issue. Why predict a midtable finish then? 🤔 |
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Post by Terriersmad on Jun 12, 2024 16:05:46 GMT 1
Thank you, Mr Davy. I have serious expectations for what the club needs to do this summer. It needs to build a team capable of winning League One at the first time of asking. No ifs, no buts. When it comes to August, we'll have a realistic idea of what success will look like because we'll actually know the squad. If I'm looking at the squad and voting for play-offs as a realistic expectation, then the hierachy has failed this summer. I'm going to be clear - I haven't voted. To vote today is acting in ignorance of what we and the rest of the division are going to do in the transfer market. However, even with the players we have now we'd be miles clear of the drop. Absolutely miles. Reading and Wigan, for all their tribulations and points deductions, were never in real peril last season, and we're dropping with a higher base, better backing, and a a better chance to really build something from where we are. Relegation to this division is a disaster, don't get me wrong. But anyone saying that we should be happy to simply stay up is deluding themselves. |
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Post by JG Mellor on Jun 12, 2024 16:10:46 GMT 1
Personally I do, but I realise that's just optimism speaking, which is unusual for me, I'm normally your typical dour pessimistic Yorkshireman when it comes to Town I think (hope?) we're all going to be pleasantly surprised in the next few weeks before the season starts. I've never derided DH's initial backing of the club so I hope that part wasn't directed at me, probably was just a general thing? The only thing I've even slightly criticised DH for is the parachute payment plan, but that's backfired on him as well as the club with him having to provide further funds with no guarantee of getting them back** ** I'm hoping our success in the future means he can have the cash agreed with KN I certainly wasn't having a dig at kev BTW Those 89 people and below need to be changing their votes to top 2 It's realistic with a billionaire owner who is willing to back us to expect and be confident of a top 2 finish Common everyone get some bloody fire in yer belly!!! HTAFC L1 champions 24/5 Cloud + Cuckoo + Land. Money guarantees nothing. If the recruitment is shit, we could easily blow £5- £10m on crap. We've got previous. |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 12, 2024 16:27:50 GMT 1
I certainly wasn't having a dig at kev BTW Those 89 people and below need to be changing their votes to top 2 It's realistic with a billionaire owner who is willing to back us to expect and be confident of a top 2 finish Common everyone get some bloody fire in yer belly!!! HTAFC L1 champions 24/5 Cloud + Cuckoo + Land. Money guarantees nothing. If the recruitment is shit, we could easily blow £5- £10m on crap. We've got previous. Now I know why they built storthes hall The title says realistic expectations! With a billionaire owner I think it's realistic Sorry for not being depressed and negative and everyone's better than us |
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