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Post by King Neil on Jun 12, 2024 16:35:10 GMT 1
We need a 12th man on here
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2024 16:41:45 GMT 1
Top 2 for me,I certainly prefer backing Town at 10/1 than England at 7/2
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Post by rockwall on Jun 12, 2024 17:42:46 GMT 1
Anything other than top 2 is unacceptable We keep hearing plenty of talk..the time for talking is over We should be spending big and blowing everyone else out of the water No excuses kev It really isn't unacceptable though. Finishing below top 6 is a different matter though. Not finishing top 2 would be disappointing, but unacceptable isn't correct. Depends on how others do, it wasn't unacceptable Wednesday coming 3rd with their points! |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 12, 2024 17:53:26 GMT 1
It's football. We could spend £50m and still not finish top two. Would that still be KN's fault? Not a diss, just an observation, look how much Manure have spent in the last 5 years and they're still not pushing for the title. It at least shortens the odds if you sign quality Dean had us in the L1 playoffs 3 seasons on the bounce yet apparently he never backed the club well enough! It's no good everyone bigging Mr nagle up and then thinking we can't even be confident of doing well You either think he,s the real deal or you don't He has a lot to do to be coming close to matching Dean hoyle,s achievements Time to back all the talking up... So Dean couldn't get us in the top 2 in Division 3 for 3 consecutive years, however it's apparently (according to an earlier post of yours) unacceptable if we don't get in the top 2 this season? |
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Post by wildbillthetownfan on Jun 12, 2024 18:22:32 GMT 1
Some fans seem to think this is going to be a stroll in the park!! this will be a tough league to get of of and i think there will be a lot of disappointed fans.
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Post by King Neil on Jun 12, 2024 18:38:16 GMT 1
It at least shortens the odds if you sign quality Dean had us in the L1 playoffs 3 seasons on the bounce yet apparently he never backed the club well enough! It's no good everyone bigging Mr nagle up and then thinking we can't even be confident of doing well You either think he,s the real deal or you don't He has a lot to do to be coming close to matching Dean hoyle,s achievements Time to back all the talking up... So Dean couldn't get us in the top 2 in Division 3 for 3 consecutive years, however it's apparently (according to an earlier post of yours) unacceptable if we don't get in the top 2 this season? That's what I'm expecting different scenario this time..half decent squad already a new manager and a billionaire owner Therefore my expectations are a little higher...playoffs not the end of the world but expecting top 2 Nothing wrong with a little confidence and setting the bar high as a fan |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 12, 2024 19:21:24 GMT 1
So Dean couldn't get us in the top 2 in Division 3 for 3 consecutive years, however it's apparently (according to an earlier post of yours) unacceptable if we don't get in the top 2 this season? That's what I'm expecting different scenario this time..half decent squad already a new manager and a billionaire owner Therefore my expectations are a little higher...playoffs not the end of the world but expecting top 2 Nothing wrong with a little confidence and setting the bar high as a fan Might be an unpopular opinion but I think the team in 2013 would beat this one. Smithies Hunt Clarke morrison dixon Roberts Johnson Miller Arfield Rhodes novak |
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Post by softboy on Jun 12, 2024 19:39:28 GMT 1
No idea. To make predictions when we don’t know what our squad will be or anybody else’s just seems a bit pointless. But I’ll go for 3rd so I don’t offend anybody.
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Post by giveusanaitch on Jun 12, 2024 19:58:42 GMT 1
Why predict a midtable finish then? 🤔 Based on the current squad, the fact that I don't see Town as a big team in League One, and the fact that Cartwright suggested as much that it wouldn't be a complete overhaul more of a 1 in 1 out approach after they've sorted out a few of their targets. On the odd occasion I get excited by a new signing it tends to be amongst a mediocre group. There's still a losing mentality and a lack of fight amongst that group. It's not so easy to get rid of that feeling that appears once a goal is conceded. |
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Post by rubicon on Jun 12, 2024 20:16:08 GMT 1
It's impossible to tell, because we've got nothing whatsoever to go on. Not seen any games from the manager, no idea on who will be playing etc etc. When we lost 1-2 at home to Boro in Wagners first home match, I honestly could see something was going to happen. I bet on both top 12 and top six for the next season, and cleared around £200 if memory serves me well. I wasn't up to betting on autos, I'm not a big gambler, but you could just see in that game, there was a "sea change" coming, and something good was on the way.
There's absolutely zilch to go on so far, barring Kev's supposed commitment, so as others have pointed out it could be anywhere in the league. Wagner by this point or not long after, had them surviving on an island, no phones, catching food, bonding etc.
Currently we're just back to the usual pre-season tour, where we'll win a game, draw a game and lose a game, and we'll all be non the wiser.
Watching Town is like being on a merry go round with Stephen King in charge. A dream you can't wake up from, often a never ending nightmare, sometimes but rarely, one where you actually win the lottery.
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Post by mosher on Jun 12, 2024 21:12:18 GMT 1
Why predict a midtable finish then? 🤔 Based on the current squad, the fact that I don't see Town as a big team in League One, and the fact that Cartwright suggested as much that it wouldn't be a complete overhaul more of a 1 in 1 out approach after they've sorted out a few of their targets. On the odd occasion I get excited by a new signing it tends to be amongst a mediocre group. There's still a losing mentality and a lack of fight amongst that group. It's not so easy to get rid of that feeling that appears once a goal is conceded. Not a big team in league one? You sure your not on the windup? |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 12, 2024 21:34:23 GMT 1
Based on the current squad, the fact that I don't see Town as a big team in League One, and the fact that Cartwright suggested as much that it wouldn't be a complete overhaul more of a 1 in 1 out approach after they've sorted out a few of their targets. On the odd occasion I get excited by a new signing it tends to be amongst a mediocre group. There's still a losing mentality and a lack of fight amongst that group. It's not so easy to get rid of that feeling that appears once a goal is conceded. Not a big team in league one? You sure your not on the windup? Club who will have one of the biggest average gates, biggest revenues and biggest wage bills. Not a big club at the level 🤦🏻♂️ |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 12, 2024 21:54:49 GMT 1
Based on the current squad, the fact that I don't see Town as a big team in League One, and the fact that Cartwright suggested as much that it wouldn't be a complete overhaul more of a 1 in 1 out approach after they've sorted out a few of their targets. On the odd occasion I get excited by a new signing it tends to be amongst a mediocre group. There's still a losing mentality and a lack of fight amongst that group. It's not so easy to get rid of that feeling that appears once a goal is conceded. Not a big team in league one? You sure your not on the windup? 🤣 This season has really taken its toll on some of us |
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Post by soapystevens on Jun 12, 2024 22:52:01 GMT 1
The team of 2013 was a good team better than wat we have at the moment, i am not expecting anything next season other than a bang average season and while Mr Cartwright is at the club we isn't going nowhere.
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Post by melbourneterrier on Jun 13, 2024 2:13:09 GMT 1
That's what I'm expecting different scenario this time..half decent squad already a new manager and a billionaire owner Therefore my expectations are a little higher...playoffs not the end of the world but expecting top 2 Nothing wrong with a little confidence and setting the bar high as a fan Might be an unpopular opinion but I think the team in 2013 would beat this one. Smithies Hunt Clarke morrison dixon Roberts Johnson Miller Arfield Rhodes novak Possibly. But let's compare this team to the one that'll line up for us this season (after transfers) for a fairer comparison |
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Post by philstarbuckscoffee on Jun 13, 2024 5:25:24 GMT 1
The issue for next season is for me, in order to be in the Top
6 in any league we will need to be able to:
1. Break teams down who come to our spot and sit deep
2. Be a team that can dominate possession when required
3. Score more than one goal a game consistently
4. Create chances consistently to make point 3 happen
Individually our current squad man for man might be better than average for League one, but we do not have the personnel to do any of the above yet. Until signings are made in midfield who can pass a ball, keep possession and create chances there are no guarantees of success for next season.
We have a decent base to build on and I see Hogg staying as a positive, but there is a lot of work to do in order to see us challenging next year. Fingers crossed they can bring in what we need.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 13, 2024 9:28:37 GMT 1
Not a big team in league one? You sure your not on the windup? Club who will have one of the biggest average gates, biggest revenues and biggest wage bills. Not a big club at the level 🤦🏻♂️ Not to mention the biggest trophy cabinet and the 3rd highest average league position. We were also the most recent team to play in the premier league. This 'small club' mentality is pathetic. We're historically a top 30 club. |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 13, 2024 9:35:21 GMT 1
The team of 2013 was a good team better than wat we have at the moment, i am not expecting anything next season other than a bang average season and while Mr Cartwright is at the club we isn't going nowhere. My only concern would be Cartwright meddling in transfers I know duff will have the final say on them but if he keeps saying no to Cartwrights suggestions then I fear Cartwright will try and throw him under the bus Very much a dick dastardly kind of character is Cartwright |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jun 13, 2024 9:47:46 GMT 1
Club who will have one of the biggest average gates, biggest revenues and biggest wage bills. Not a big club at the level 🤦🏻♂️ Not to mention the biggest trophy cabinet and the 3rd highest average league position. We were also the most recent team to play in the premier league. This 'small club' mentality is pathetic. We're historically a top 30 club. I've said it before, some have convinced themselves we're an Oldham or a Rochdale. It's bizarre. |
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Post by runner76 on Jun 13, 2024 10:16:52 GMT 1
The team of 2013 was a good team better than wat we have at the moment, i am not expecting anything next season other than a bang average season and while Mr Cartwright is at the club we isn't going nowhere. My only concern would be Cartwright meddling in transfers I know duff will have the final say on them but if he keeps saying no to Cartwrights suggestions then I fear Cartwright will try and throw him under the bus Very much a dick dastardly kind of character is Cartwright More of a Muttley |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 10:40:57 GMT 1
The team of 2013 was a good team better than wat we have at the moment, i am not expecting anything next season other than a bang average season and while Mr Cartwright is at the club we isn't going nowhere. My only concern would be Cartwright meddling in transfers I know duff will have the final say on them but if he keeps saying no to Cartwrights suggestions then I fear Cartwright will try and throw him under the bus Very much a dick dastardly kind of character is Cartwright Sorry, but how do you come to this conclusion?? |
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Post by ldotm on Jun 13, 2024 10:51:30 GMT 1
My only concern would be Cartwright meddling in transfers I know duff will have the final say on them but if he keeps saying no to Cartwrights suggestions then I fear Cartwright will try and throw him under the bus Very much a dick dastardly kind of character is Cartwright Sorry, but how do you come to this conclusion?? Makes me laugh how people think they know players/staff personally. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 10:55:31 GMT 1
Sorry, but how do you come to this conclusion?? Makes me laugh how people think they know players/staff personally. Exactly! He got rid of Warnock (I know it was a bad decision, but still) and all of his fanboys think he is some sort of evil supervillain attempting to destroy the club  |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 13, 2024 10:56:22 GMT 1
The team of 2013 was a good team better than wat we have at the moment, i am not expecting anything next season other than a bang average season and while Mr Cartwright is at the club we isn't going nowhere. My only concern would be Cartwright meddling in transfers I know duff will have the final say on them but if he keeps saying no to Cartwrights suggestions then I fear Cartwright will try and throw him under the bus Very much a dick dastardly kind of character is Cartwright Muttley, do something! |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 13, 2024 11:18:17 GMT 1
My only concern would be Cartwright meddling in transfers I know duff will have the final say on them but if he keeps saying no to Cartwrights suggestions then I fear Cartwright will try and throw him under the bus Very much a dick dastardly kind of character is Cartwright [/bSorry, but how do you come to this conclusion?? Sorry Mark Moving into the managers office the day after he departs says a lot about him I have also seen the YouTube interview with him in which he comes across very self important as if he is running the show And endless press conferences he has given Yes it's my perception of him...you can have yours too👍 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 11:31:59 GMT 1
Sorry, but how do you come to this conclusion?? Sorry Mark Moving into the managers office the day after he departs says a lot about him I have also seen the YouTube interview with him in which he comes across very self important as if he is running the show And endless press conferences he has given Yes it's my perception of him...you can have yours too👍 I think Mark Cartwright didn't do well last season, so no need to say I'm him. If we're going like that, are you Neil Warnock? Bet you wanna be. Where are the endless press conferences he has given? It feels like a lot of Town fans need a scapegoat and he is the man chosen because he got rid of King Neil! |
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Post by dugnet on Jun 13, 2024 11:42:14 GMT 1
My only concern would be Cartwright meddling in transfers I know duff will have the final say on them but if he keeps saying no to Cartwrights suggestions then I fear Cartwright will try and throw him under the bus Very much a dick dastardly kind of character is Cartwright More of a Muttley Leave Muttley out of this.... |
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Post by King Neil on Jun 13, 2024 11:45:08 GMT 1
Sorry Mark Moving into the managers office the day after he departs says a lot about him I have also seen the YouTube interview with him in which he comes across very self important as if he is running the show And endless press conferences he has given Yes it's my perception of him...you can have yours too👍 I think Mark Cartwright didn't do well last season, so no need to say I'm him. If we're going like that, are you Neil Warnock? Bet you wanna be. Where are the endless press conferences he has given? It feels like a lot of Town fans need a scapegoat and he is the man chosen because he got rid of King Neil! I'm not looking for a scapegoat If you read the whole thread I think we will finish top 2 I'm happy with duff...he comes across as very self assured in his interviews and believes what he is telling you and seems relaxed...personally I think he's going to be a good man manager and the players will warm to him and like him...and some of the so called bad apples will want to stay and work with him |
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Post by dugnet on Jun 13, 2024 11:46:07 GMT 1
On the pitch we still can't say what to expect but off the field we want to see some investment in the squad and a completely fresh mindset across club. Get those things right and hopefully the results will follow. What we don't want is a situation where we are questioning another manager, recruitment decisions and the attitude of the players.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2024 13:20:25 GMT 1
I think Mark Cartwright didn't do well last season, so no need to say I'm him. If we're going like that, are you Neil Warnock? Bet you wanna be. Where are the endless press conferences he has given? It feels like a lot of Town fans need a scapegoat and he is the man chosen because he got rid of King Neil! I'm not looking for a scapegoat If you read the whole thread I think we will finish top 2 I'm happy with duff...he comes across as very self assured in his interviews and believes what he is telling you and seems relaxed...personally I think he's going to be a good man manager and the players will warm to him and like him...and some of the so called bad apples will want to stay and work with him I also think Duff will do well, but this time the fans can't turn on Cartwright if he fails and say it was always doomed - hindsight is a wonderful thing |
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