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Post by tepidterrier on Jun 6, 2024 17:38:23 GMT 1
Mainly the right calls- Grealish, Jones, and Madison haven't been their best of late. The others were always gonna go.
A bit surprised that, with a 33 man provisional squad, Southgate only put one left back in, and it turns out he's now injured. So we're likely to see someone like Trippier or Gomez there instead. I think putting someone like Tyrick Mitchell would've been better for the balance of the squad, just so we have an option.
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Jun 6, 2024 17:48:00 GMT 1
I have a man crush on Grealish's calves, so very disappointed.
Joking!
Sister in law is absolutely gutted
😂
Housewives choice apparently...
I keep thinking the midfield looks weak. Might be wrong.
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Post by midge on Jun 6, 2024 17:48:53 GMT 1
Anyone got a logical reason as to why on earth he's taking Lewis Dunk over Branthwaite?! Dunk a better passer and more comfortable on the ball maybe!? |
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Post by uptownfunk on Jun 6, 2024 18:28:30 GMT 1
Southgate was a fairly mediocre player and his managerial career has not yet reached the heights of his football career. Chances slightly improved with Maguire out but even so England will be too defensive.
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Post by E4b on Jun 6, 2024 18:36:59 GMT 1
The only person I would have left out is Gareth Southgate. Been saying this for years. England would have won trophies without Southgate in charge. |
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Post by sabailand on Jun 6, 2024 18:50:09 GMT 1
Southgate was a fairly mediocre player and his managerial career has not yet reached the heights of his football career. Chances slightly improved with Maguire out but even so England will be too defensive. He might have been out of favour/form at Man utd but hes definitely been one of Englands better players in recent years, been pretty consistent for England tbh. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 6, 2024 19:02:38 GMT 1
Anyone got a logical reason as to why on earth he's taking Lewis Dunk over Branthwaite?! To be honest, I can't understand why Tomori isn't in before either of them, I think he must have done something wrong behind the scenes, he's twice the player either of them could hope to be. |
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Jun 6, 2024 19:03:30 GMT 1
I'd have taken Grealish purely for the first touch and control of that Alexander Arnold pass the other night. Sublime.
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Post by alexdire on Jun 6, 2024 19:30:40 GMT 1
Lewis Dunk, good to see Southgate is taking one for the future to gain experience.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 6, 2024 19:44:52 GMT 1
Taking Dunk and an injured Luke Shaw, but no Branthwaite. Bloke’s a clown.
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Jun 6, 2024 20:00:34 GMT 1
The only person I would have left out is Gareth Southgate. Been saying this for years. England would have won trophies without Southgate in charge. My unpopular opinion is that we would've won a trophy under Allardyce. That's the hill I'm willing to die on. |
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Jun 6, 2024 20:03:47 GMT 1
I also keep thinking what has Ben White done wrong or am I missing something...
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Post by ambryboy on Jun 6, 2024 20:33:04 GMT 1
I also keep thinking what has Ben White done wrong or am I missing something... Didn't he rule himself out of consideration? |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 6, 2024 20:57:04 GMT 1
I'd have taken Grealish purely for the first touch and control of that Alexander Arnold pass the other night. Sublime. Agree. Both the pass and the control was football on another level. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jun 6, 2024 21:03:15 GMT 1
Feel sorry for Grealish.
A symptom of playing for Man City - hasn’t had chance to make an impact in last few months.
That said, two of the best players in the last 6 months ( Palmer and Foden) are in there. Add Bellingham to this and we should be in with a shout.
Just a shame that the manager will probably insist that they don’t show their true flair in favour of retaining possession at all costs.
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Post by markthehorn on Jun 6, 2024 22:02:06 GMT 1
I also keep thinking what has Ben White done wrong or am I missing something... Didn't he rule himself out of consideration? Fallen out with the management I think . Reckon Southgate has had a good excuse to not pick Grealish or Maddison as they have been injury or out of form . Maguire is actually injured so little choice there. We do look light in defence potentially but maybe we can out score everyone ! |
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Post by space hardware on Jun 6, 2024 22:09:33 GMT 1
Feel sorry for Grealish. A symptom of playing for Man City - hasn’t had chance to make an impact in last few months. That said, two of the best players in the last 6 months ( Palmer and Foden) are in there. Add Bellingham to this and we should be in with a shout. Just a shame that the manager will probably insist that they don’t show their true flair in favour of retaining possession at all costs. The lad is dead behind the eyes playing for Guardiola. I'm sure he doesn't care, having won it all at Man City though. How I hate that poisonous bald gnome. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 6, 2024 22:15:55 GMT 1
Feel sorry for Grealish. A symptom of playing for Man City - hasn’t had chance to make an impact in last few months. That said, two of the best players in the last 6 months ( Palmer and Foden) are in there. Add Bellingham to this and we should be in with a shout. Just a shame that the manager will probably insist that they don’t show their true flair in favour of retaining possession at all costs. Grealish is obsessed with silly little passes when he has a great chance to shoot. I would have left him out too so fair play to Southgate having the balls to do it Tough call for him though as to which two players you start either side of Kane Foden Palmer Saka Eze I think he'll go Foden and Saka but it's madness to leave Palmer out after the season he has had. I also think Eze is a far better player than Saka but Southgate will be loyal to Saka |
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Post by Wingman on Jun 6, 2024 22:56:24 GMT 1
The only person I would have left out is Gareth Southgate. Been saying this for years. England would have won trophies without Southgate in charge. I think he will go after the Summer regardless of the outcome of the tournament. Who to replace him though? Howe is a no for me, but I suspect he is sterile enough to placate the FA. |
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Jun 6, 2024 23:43:47 GMT 1
I also keep thinking what has Ben White done wrong or am I missing something... Didn't he rule himself out of consideration? Not sure, I must of missed that. Why? |
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Post by philatrickstarbuck on Jun 6, 2024 23:47:23 GMT 1
Sorry, just seen Mark's post, which sort of explains, but still why?
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Post by ambryboy on Jun 7, 2024 0:09:06 GMT 1
Sorry, just seen Mark's post, which sort of explains, but still why? Something (not sure what) happened at the Qatar World Cup causing him to flounce off leave early and he subsequently ruled himself out of selection. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 7, 2024 0:30:59 GMT 1
Grealish was one 'flair' player too many for Gaz.
Eze, Foden, Palmer, Bellingham, Saka.
Thats at least 5 in the squad, his nose must be bleeding from having to pick so many.
He will be comforted by knowing he wont pick at least 3 of them to start games.
Id forget starting with the width and have Kane supported by Bellingham with Foden and Palmer popping up all over the place.
Hard to mark, hard to stop.
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Post by rockwall on Jun 7, 2024 6:53:57 GMT 1
Feel sorry for Grealish. A symptom of playing for Man City - hasn’t had chance to make an impact in last few months. That said, two of the best players in the last 6 months ( Palmer and Foden) are in there. Add Bellingham to this and we should be in with a shout. Just a shame that the manager will probably insist that they don’t show their true flair in favour of retaining possession at all costs. Grealish is obsessed with silly little passes when he has a great chance to shoot. I would have left him out too so fair play to Southgate having the balls to do it Tough call for him though as to which two players you start either side of Kane Foden Palmer Saka Eze I think he'll go Foden and Saka but it's madness to leave Palmer out after the season he has had. I also think Eze is a far better player than Saka but Southgate will be loyal to Saka He will fit 3 of them in. He will play Jude deeper with Rice. Palmer Foden and Saka behind Kane. Mainoo will start as a sub. My thoughts. |
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Post by rockwall on Jun 7, 2024 6:57:15 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jun 7, 2024 7:05:45 GMT 1
Such a glut of talent to pick from, imagine this being in something like the El Tel era?
I know there are many other teams in the way here, but we have so many options, there has to be pressure on the team and Southgate to prove they’re not just moneyed mercenaries.
Not long until we find out.
For all that I think Southgate isn’t the right bloke, in comparative terms, he’s given us the best finishes in tournament football for a good few years. Will he be remembered as the nearly man, or will he be the one to be remembered as fondly as Alf Ramsey?
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Post by lossiemouthtownfan on Jun 7, 2024 8:52:16 GMT 1
That's because realistically which other English manager can they choose that's currently out of a job with no compensation to pay. Lampard, Rooney, Potter! Newcastle would want money for Howe, but I suspect they would be easy to deal with as it would enable them to get a "named" manager in. |
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Post by benhomly on Jun 7, 2024 8:58:38 GMT 1
Feel sorry for Grealish. A symptom of playing for Man City - hasn’t had chance to make an impact in last few months. That said, two of the best players in the last 6 months ( Palmer and Foden) are in there. Add Bellingham to this and we should be in with a shout. Just a shame that the manager will probably insist that they don’t show their true flair in favour of retaining possession at all costs. Grealish is obsessed with silly little passes when he has a great chance to shoot. I would have left him out too so fair play to Southgate having the balls to do it Tough call for him though as to which two players you start either side of Kane Foden Palmer Saka Eze I think he'll go Foden and Saka but it's madness to leave Palmer out after the season he has had. I also think Eze is a far better player than Saka but Southgate will be loyal to Saka I'd leave him out purely for his goal celebrations, needs making an example of  |
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 7, 2024 9:12:12 GMT 1
The only person I would have left out is Gareth Southgate. Been saying this for years. England would have won trophies without Southgate in charge. As per usual (remember the golden generation) the england squad is over hyped. One or two really good players, many who play in top teams but are carried by mainly foreign players. We simply dont have the mental strength to win trophies, so we have to be much much better than the other teams in the competition to win. Look at Germany and how they find a way to go deep into competitions time and time again. Similar to Real Madrid. Mentality. Im not a fan of Southgate as a manager, but from the way he handles the British Press he's been superb. And for me that is more than half the battle with the England manager position. The press are a disgrace and take some right handling. Remember them trying to ruin Bobby Robson, widely regarded as one of the best english managers of all time. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 7, 2024 9:24:22 GMT 1
Grealish is paying the price for being a bit part player with Man City but what has also happened is that the front 4 need to score goals & Grealish doesn't score enough. Eze, Palmer, Foden & Saka all score way more & can't be left out.
I think the first line up will depend on where GS wants to play the world's best player, Bellingham. Personally, I would like to see him play as a 10, with Kane up front & Saka & Foden either side of JB, interchanging as & when necessary. I'd play TAA alongside Rice behind but if GS goes with this option I think he'll play Gallagher instead.
I'm not sure if GS would prefer picking JB to partner Rice & be more of an 8 to fit Foden, Palmer & Saka behind Kane. I'd prefer JB in the 10 role though, allowing more options off the bench.
I love watching Eze & Palmer, both have had great seasons but Foden & Saka are nailed on to start, IMO.
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