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Post by Junior & Onuora on Aug 23, 2024 13:55:07 GMT 1
Does Davy still own the land at Lockwood where the pavilion burnt down?
And the YMCA at Lindley?
Could these be possible venues? Buying the Lockwood site just to leave it seems a strange one - he must've had it for years.
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Post by leyburnterrier on Aug 23, 2024 14:56:08 GMT 1
Who was it said the stadium deal was concluded but just going through the legal paperwork?
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Post by waggers on Aug 23, 2024 15:50:21 GMT 1
Might be more cost effective in the long run to contribute significantly to knocking up a new small stadium for them on the Fartown land. Stop sharing with them. I'm a fan of rugger league don't get me wrong but they're getting in the way a bit now. I was surprised when I google mapped Fartown how much is still there...obv all 4 sides need development but the location and the pitch has many plus points...Does the Giants A team play there still ? I always assumed it was still in use to some capacity, but yeah it's surprisingly still usable. The Giants would need to be on board though which will be an issue. |
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Post by detox on Aug 23, 2024 16:21:30 GMT 1
I was surprised when I google mapped Fartown how much is still there...obv all 4 sides need development but the location and the pitch has many plus points...Does the Giants A team play there still ? I always assumed it was still in use to song capacity, but yeah it's surprisingly still usable. The Giants would need to be on board though which will be an issue. A main stand with all the hospitality gubbins..a covered terrace end , and 2 open terraces is all they need...prob new floodlights....the ground held 30,000+ in days gone by... but 10,000 surely enough nowadays...Return to the spiritual home might see all those who have refused to go since they left....(those still alive of course).. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Aug 24, 2024 9:34:16 GMT 1
20 min interview with Kev
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Post by htafcdreams on Oct 4, 2024 10:59:37 GMT 1
If Kevin could kindly answer some of the questions below. Interested in the understanding of last season and current position the club is in. 1. As we are aware last season had 3 x permanent managers, 1 x interim manager, releasing of experienced previous players on loan/sold, signings which struggled, fitness issues/injuries and relegation and the financial impact from relegation-in the previous end of season review, Kevin stated Mark Cartwright had done everything asked of him and retained his position. In Kevin’s view what is poor performance by a Director of Football and is the judgement over a set time period ie 3 years+ 2. AB reported the issues with players and lack of professionalism. AB looked to be retained at the end of the season, therefore was a level of trust in him from the club and Kevin. In Kevin’s interview he said he wasn’t aware of the issues with the players before it was too late and we were relegated. In the reporting to Kevin by the clubs senior management team, the issues ongoing were not mentioned. How does Kevin set out the reporting from the senior team is validated in the future? 3. Does Kevin have or looking to make a shareholding in Beswick Sports? 4. What is the strategy for the club taking in consideration the learning in the last 12 months. Previously it was Premier League in 3 years. Recently Kevin said in an interview the club has to be ready for the premier league in all areas before it gets there. Assume the timeline is increasing from previous understanding the task in hand. 5. Is Kevin looking to increase frequency of visits to Huddersfield esp if things aren’t going to plan. Thankyou All these things seem to be happening again? |
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Post by runner76 on Oct 4, 2024 11:01:52 GMT 1
If Kevin could kindly answer some of the questions below. Interested in the understanding of last season and current position the club is in. 1. As we are aware last season had 3 x permanent managers, 1 x interim manager, releasing of experienced previous players on loan/sold, signings which struggled, fitness issues/injuries and relegation and the financial impact from relegation-in the previous end of season review, Kevin stated Mark Cartwright had done everything asked of him and retained his position. In Kevin’s view what is poor performance by a Director of Football and is the judgement over a set time period ie 3 years+ 2. AB reported the issues with players and lack of professionalism. AB looked to be retained at the end of the season, therefore was a level of trust in him from the club and Kevin. In Kevin’s interview he said he wasn’t aware of the issues with the players before it was too late and we were relegated. In the reporting to Kevin by the clubs senior management team, the issues ongoing were not mentioned. How does Kevin set out the reporting from the senior team is validated in the future? 3. Does Kevin have or looking to make a shareholding in Beswick Sports? 4. What is the strategy for the club taking in consideration the learning in the last 12 months. Previously it was Premier League in 3 years. Recently Kevin said in an interview the club has to be ready for the premier league in all areas before it gets there. Assume the timeline is increasing from previous understanding the task in hand. 5. Is Kevin looking to increase frequency of visits to Huddersfield esp if things aren’t going to plan. Thankyou All these things seem to be happening again? did we get answers to the questions? Sure Carmichael Dave can make that happen..... |
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Post by 28901 on Oct 4, 2024 20:18:41 GMT 1
I always assumed it was still in use to song capacity, but yeah it's surprisingly still usable. The Giants would need to be on board though which will be an issue. A main stand with all the hospitality gubbins..a covered terrace end , and 2 open terraces is all they need...prob new floodlights....the ground held 30,000+ in days gone by... but 10,000 surely enough nowadays...Return to the spiritual home might see all those who have refused to go since they left....(those still alive of course).. I don't think you can get away with open terracing in a brand new ground these days, even for a summer sport. They don't like grounds in the inner suburbs either. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 5, 2024 9:29:45 GMT 1
If Kevin could kindly answer some of the questions below. Interested in the understanding of last season and current position the club is in. 1. As we are aware last season had 3 x permanent managers, 1 x interim manager, releasing of experienced previous players on loan/sold, signings which struggled, fitness issues/injuries and relegation and the financial impact from relegation-in the previous end of season review, Kevin stated Mark Cartwright had done everything asked of him and retained his position. In Kevin’s view what is poor performance by a Director of Football and is the judgement over a set time period ie 3 years+ 2. AB reported the issues with players and lack of professionalism. AB looked to be retained at the end of the season, therefore was a level of trust in him from the club and Kevin. In Kevin’s interview he said he wasn’t aware of the issues with the players before it was too late and we were relegated. In the reporting to Kevin by the clubs senior management team, the issues ongoing were not mentioned. How does Kevin set out the reporting from the senior team is validated in the future? 3. Does Kevin have or looking to make a shareholding in Beswick Sports? 4. What is the strategy for the club taking in consideration the learning in the last 12 months. Previously it was Premier League in 3 years. Recently Kevin said in an interview the club has to be ready for the premier league in all areas before it gets there. Assume the timeline is increasing from previous understanding the task in hand. 5. Is Kevin looking to increase frequency of visits to Huddersfield esp if things aren’t going to plan. Thankyou All these things seem to be happening again? Excellent very well thought out questions. They should be put to the owner and as fans we deserve some proper answers. I think I said to Kevin at the very start all the fans want is honesty. |
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Post by andre2000 on Oct 14, 2024 20:01:14 GMT 1
KN missed out on a meeting??
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Post by brighousebandbred on Oct 14, 2024 20:37:37 GMT 1
KN missed out on a meeting?? That’s a club who potentially are going to compete right at top if their plans come to fruition . A major city 2nd biggest in England with 3 billion possibly invested , Man City type investment in the actual city. We might be in their division this year but that’s about all we have in common. Noticed on train the other day how the hs2 was getting on in Birmingham, major infrastructure changes vast amounts being spent , we really are an afterthought up here , very sad because the money invested in huge transport schemes brings great job opportunities and can only help the youth. |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 15, 2024 8:37:58 GMT 1
KN missed out on a meeting?? Looks like he's googled "top football team in Birmingham" before choosing his wardrobe for the day! |
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Post by villageidiot on Oct 15, 2024 9:14:47 GMT 1
Poçulation of Birmingham with 2 teams 2.4m. Huddersfield is 0.14m.
Where would you invest either an owner or govt?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 15, 2024 10:16:35 GMT 1
Poçulation of Birmingham with 2 teams 2.4m. Huddersfield is 0.14m. Where would you invest either an owner or govt? Brighton seem to have done pretty well without being a major city. Just good infrastructure put in place and good recruitment of staff and players. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Oct 15, 2024 11:12:19 GMT 1
Poçulation of Birmingham with 2 teams 2.4m. Huddersfield is 0.14m. Where would you invest either an owner or govt? Brighton seem to have done pretty well without being a major city. Just good infrastructure put in place and good recruitment of staff and players. Population of double Huddersfield, much more affluent on average and no club bar Crawley for 40 odd miles. Not to say it's not doable here but it's more difficult than Brighton. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 15, 2024 11:43:33 GMT 1
Poçulation of Birmingham with 2 teams 2.4m. Huddersfield is 0.14m. Where would you invest either an owner or govt? Seemed a lot so I looked it up. Think it must depend what theyre classing as Birmingham, because many put the population at just over 1 million. Suspect the 2.4m figure must be for the wider Birmingham conurbation, so will include WBA, walsall and maybe even Wolves. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 15, 2024 14:56:24 GMT 1
Poçulation of Birmingham with 2 teams 2.4m. Huddersfield is 0.14m. Where would you invest either an owner or govt? Brighton seem to have done pretty well without being a major city. Just good infrastructure put in place and good recruitment of staff and players. Their owner spent £450 million over ten years to get to the Premier League. |
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Post by mosher on Oct 15, 2024 15:09:13 GMT 1
Brighton seem to have done pretty well without being a major city. Just good infrastructure put in place and good recruitment of staff and players. Their owner spent £450 million over ten years to get to the Premier League. It gets me where these myths about shoestring achievements come from? There's still L***s fans around that think Bielsa got them to the PL on a shoestring. And SO many people still think Bournemouth got there virtually penniless. Even with us and Herr Wagner; yes compared to other clubs it was a shoestring but we spent a fair bit overall on that squad compared to what we historically spent in one season. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 15, 2024 15:10:29 GMT 1
Brighton seem to have done pretty well without being a major city. Just good infrastructure put in place and good recruitment of staff and players. Their owner spent £450 million over ten years to get to the Premier League. Yes but that includes building a new stadium and training ground. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Oct 15, 2024 15:37:54 GMT 1
Their owner spent £450 million over ten years to get to the Premier League. Yes but that includes building a new stadium and training ground. The Amex cost £93 million to build. |
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Post by mosher on Oct 15, 2024 15:47:50 GMT 1
Yes but that includes building a new stadium and training ground. The Amex cost £93 million to build. Didn't they also get loads of grants from the FA, FL and Hove council too? Sure I remember reading about additional funding help when they were still at the Goldstone? |
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Post by sabailand on Oct 15, 2024 15:48:43 GMT 1
Birmingham city have to be the biggest underachievers in the country, the second city and thye've never won anything of note.
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Post by ldr on Oct 15, 2024 16:03:45 GMT 1
Yes but that includes building a new stadium and training ground. The Amex cost £93 million to build. It would have been about £50 million but they paid with one of their own cards! I noticed the APR for an Amex card on an advert the other day….bloody eye watering! |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 15, 2024 16:05:47 GMT 1
Yes but that includes building a new stadium and training ground. The Amex cost £93 million to build. That was the initial construction cost of the 22500 seater stadium which doesn't include the land, planning or design. In 2013 it got an expansion of around 8000 which pushed the cost higher again. Just for some context, they're adding 1500 more seats which will cost over £4m. The training ground cost over £20m aswell. Bloom built the club from the ground up and now competes with the big boys, which was the initial argument, people saying it needs to be a big city club for investment to be successful, which is why I pointed out Brighton as an example of that not being true. |
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Post by jasrick on Oct 15, 2024 16:06:31 GMT 1
Poçulation of Birmingham with 2 teams 2.4m. Huddersfield is 0.14m. Where would you invest either an owner or govt? Brighton seem to have done pretty well without being a major city. Just good infrastructure put in place and good recruitment of staff and players. I read an article a few years back that showed if everyone supported the team whose ground they lived closest to, Brighton would be the best supported team in the country. Think it considered national league teams and above. There was a pretty cool interactive map to go with it too. Might see if I can find it with a google. |
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Post by royrace on Oct 15, 2024 16:07:31 GMT 1
Yes but that includes building a new stadium and training ground. The Amex cost £93 million to build. Brighton are successful due to having a very wealthy owner who is prepared to lose money bankrolling his boyhood club (yes those do exist). They also run the club extremely well in all areas. You can't "do a Brighton" without both of those things sadly, although your benefactor doesn't necessarily need to be a boyhood fan. Lots of people fail to realise you can't be successful in the PL without losing tens of millions, probably hundreds and be prepared to accept that. Hopefully Kevin isn't one of them! |
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Post by tockyterrier on Oct 15, 2024 22:29:34 GMT 1
The Amex cost £93 million to build. That was the initial construction cost of the 22500 seater stadium which doesn't include the land, planning or design. In 2013 it got an expansion of around 8000 which pushed the cost higher again. Just for some context, they're adding 1500 more seats which will cost over £4m. The training ground cost over £20m aswell. Bloom built the club from the ground up and now competes with the big boys, which was the initial argument, people saying it needs to be a big city club for investment to be successful, which is why I pointed out Brighton as an example of that not being true. Built from the ground up. Similar to what KN has talked about, reinstating the academy, investing in the back room staff/structure and the stadium and offices etc. But people throwing a paddy because we didnt outspend Birmingham on striker and winning ebery week. We need to have some patience |
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Post by DuffMan on Oct 15, 2024 22:44:31 GMT 1
The Amex cost £93 million to build. Brighton are successful due to having a very wealthy owner who is prepared to lose money bankrolling his boyhood club (yes those do exist). They also run the club extremely well in all areas. You can't "do a Brighton" without both of those things sadly, although your benefactor doesn't necessarily need to be a boyhood fan. Lots of people fail to realise you can't be successful in the PL without losing tens of millions, probably hundreds and be prepared to accept that. Hopefully Kevin isn't one of them! Bloom is bank rolling them yes. But he won’t lose money on them unless they tank like we did. His asset is currently worth more than his investment. Deano was willing to lose money and he did, problem was he got ill and his bets in the second season didn’t work out and the rest is history. Blooms bets haven’t ever been tested as they’ve had success after success, he will want that money back eventually from a sale of the club. Rich people don’t give money away |
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Post by royrace on Oct 16, 2024 8:50:30 GMT 1
Brighton are successful due to having a very wealthy owner who is prepared to lose money bankrolling his boyhood club (yes those do exist). They also run the club extremely well in all areas. You can't "do a Brighton" without both of those things sadly, although your benefactor doesn't necessarily need to be a boyhood fan. Lots of people fail to realise you can't be successful in the PL without losing tens of millions, probably hundreds and be prepared to accept that. Hopefully Kevin isn't one of them! Bloom is bank rolling them yes. But he won’t lose money on them unless they tank like we did. His asset is currently worth more than his investment. Deano was willing to lose money and he did, problem was he got ill and his bets in the second season didn’t work out and the rest is history. Blooms bets haven’t ever been tested as they’ve had success after success, he will want that money back eventually from a sale of the club. Rich people don’t give money away He's put in 400M so far I think, plus another 70 this last season despite them having record profits. He's not getting that back any time soon and I'm sure he appreciates that. I don't think Dean had any intention of financing a PL club and I'm sure he'd admit that. The fact he couldn't or wouldn't is precisely why we ended up with the transfers we did and worse off than we were before promotion. Football clubs aren't proper businesses and will never be self sufficient. They need a benefactor, sad but true. Best you can do is minimise losses. |
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Post by DuffMan on Oct 16, 2024 11:54:49 GMT 1
Bloom is bank rolling them yes. But he won’t lose money on them unless they tank like we did. His asset is currently worth more than his investment. Deano was willing to lose money and he did, problem was he got ill and his bets in the second season didn’t work out and the rest is history. Blooms bets haven’t ever been tested as they’ve had success after success, he will want that money back eventually from a sale of the club. Rich people don’t give money away He's put in 400M so far I think, plus another 70 this last season despite them having record profits. He's not getting that back any time soon and I'm sure he appreciates that. I don't think Dean had any intention of financing a PL club and I'm sure he'd admit that. The fact he couldn't or wouldn't is precisely why we ended up with the transfers we did and worse off than we were before promotion. Football clubs aren't proper businesses and will never be self sufficient. They need a benefactor, sad but true. Best you can do is minimise losses. I think Brighton at the minute are worth a lot more than 400m given their status in the premier league and they seem to have a lot of the best people running their club. I think he would want some if not all of it back at some point, but my point was it is easy for him to not think about it as they have always been on the upward curve, his investment / motivation would be tested with a relegation I'd imagine. Oh I agree they'll never be self sufficient but these money men getting involved at EFL level certainly aren't looking to give money away they're investing/gambling on getting a place at the top table and selling at the right point. Hoyle initially just wanted to prop town up in the championship I think, You're right once we got to the premier league he was out of his depth financially and ended up putting in more than he wanted, which then meant he wanted some back and contributed to the mess we ended up in. |
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