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Post by ebargum on Oct 24, 2024 22:30:46 GMT 1
Hate the idea of goal music and I don't think it will bring much to the atmosphere. In fact it will cement our status as a lower league team. Clappers on the other hand are a great idea imp, kids love them as do some of the adults and they always up the noise level. I'm sure there's other stuff too, goal music though just feels a bit lower leagues. I would sooner have music, something that we can relate to ( eg, "those were the days my friend" ) than those bleeding clappers, not done many surveys myself, but how many so called bigger clubs, fill their grounds with clappers. waste of a tree. not having our own end to ourselves has always been my view of the problem with atmosphere,  |
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Post by stevvy on Oct 24, 2024 22:31:45 GMT 1
Genuinely no idea why anyone thinks goal music will improve the atmosphere. All it'll do is add a bit of extra (fake) noise for a few seconds and that's it. That isn't an atmosphere
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 24, 2024 22:38:09 GMT 1
The atmosphere will sort itself out if/when we are challenging for the auto spots, and goals feel like they properly matter. Rightly or wrongly, most folk just aren’t going to get overly excited about scoring against Bristol Rovers, at home, in October, sat outside the playoffs at the time, fresh out of the championship. It really isn’t any deeper than that IMO. Exactly this. I’ve celebrated every goal this season, but the real feeling isn’t there yet. Give us a team to be proud of, that excite us, that are going to achieve some tangible success. The fans will give these people backing and atmosphere like they’ve never experienced if you give us the chance of some glory. Give us a win over Leeds, promotion, a player heading to the top. Something to get the town buzzing again. It’s been thin gruel since KN took over, we’ve seen some humiliating performances (Swansea at home), poor managers and we’ve made some awful signings. I like the cut of Nagle’s gib, and Duff seems like a good choice for promotion, but generally seen the playing side deteriorate despite his investment. |
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Post by workshyfop on Oct 24, 2024 22:43:40 GMT 1
The atmosphere will sort itself out if/when we are challenging for the auto spots, and goals feel like they properly matter. Rightly or wrongly, most folk just aren’t going to get overly excited about scoring against Bristol Rovers, at home, in October, sat outside the playoffs at the time, fresh out of the championship. It really isn’t any deeper than that IMO. Exactly this. I’ve celebrated every goal this season, but the real feeling isn’t there yet. Give us a team to be proud of, that excite us, that are going to achieve some tangible success. The fans will give these people backing and atmosphere like they’ve never experienced if you give us the chance of some glory. Give us a win over Leeds, promotion, a player heading to the top. Something to get the town buzzing again. It’s been thin gruel since KN took over, we’ve seen some humiliating performances (Swansea at home), poor managers and we’ve made some awful signings. I like the cut of Nagle’s gib, and Duff seems like a good choice for promotion, but generally seen the playing side deteriorate despite his investment. Correct. I think we’re in the bottom three clubs in the country for results and possibly top for goals conceded over the last 10 years. We’ve been relegated twice and have no exciting players to get fans off their seats (last time at this level, we had Roberts, Pilkington, Rhodes, Novak, Robinson). The fans are a credit to the club, so any criticism is totally out of order. |
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Post by harri54 on Oct 24, 2024 22:50:37 GMT 1
Probably best learning how to look at pictures first Dunc. For sure, but I’m not running the club. I didn’t like the diary. It has an “air” of patronising. The one position that massively needed addressing, didn’t happen. That’s a fail. Patronising! Says the person who is possibly the main agravator, therby provoking a compromised approach. If you moderate your extremes perhaps they wouldn't be dancing on a pin head. I would support then ridiculing your type more than before, but that would prompt you to be even more provokational than you are above. They won't win with people like you. |
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Post by htfcterry on Oct 24, 2024 22:53:43 GMT 1
Genuinely no idea why anyone thinks goal music will improve the atmosphere. All it'll do is add a bit of extra (fake) noise for a few seconds and that's it. That isn't an atmosphere I think the drummer in the kilner bank would outdrum the music if we had it anyway. That goes off before the ball hits the net sometimes and almost kills any goal celebration to get the crowd straight into a chant. |
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Post by harri54 on Oct 24, 2024 23:34:45 GMT 1
Exactly this. I’ve celebrated every goal this season, but the real feeling isn’t there yet. Give us a team to be proud of, that excite us, that are going to achieve some tangible success. The fans will give these people backing and atmosphere like they’ve never experienced if you give us the chance of some glory. Give us a win over Leeds, promotion, a player heading to the top. Something to get the town buzzing again. It’s been thin gruel since KN took over, we’ve seen some humiliating performances (Swansea at home), poor managers and we’ve made some awful signings. I like the cut of Nagle’s gib, and Duff seems like a good choice for promotion, but generally seen the playing side deteriorate despite his investment. Correct. I think we’re in the bottom three clubs in the country for results and possibly top for goals conceded over the last 10 years. We’ve been relegated twice and have no exciting players to get fans off their seats (last time at this level, we had Roberts, Pilkington, Rhodes, Novak, Robinson). The fans are a credit to the club, so any criticism is totally out of order. I don't think we should see it as criticism, more a search for understanding how to help improve things. Massive improvements came with the South Stand project, Wagners personality massively helped people buy in, Hoyle's low cost season cards massively increased attendances, a new style of play with solid defence & midfield possession gave confidence we would not loose, winning promotion & getting results like Palace away & Man U at home gave Massive optimism. All we have left is South Stand & low cost season cards, everything else has gone backwards and it hurts, ironically both facilitated by Hoyle who gets lambasted for some errors. We need to chill out over the past, we can't change it, and enjoy the ride that KN would clearly like to take us on. Hoyle said he could not afford and could not prepare for the PL, it appears KN is trying to prepare and may be able to afford, so let's support it, it will help it happen. |
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Post by duncfost01 on Oct 25, 2024 7:18:08 GMT 1
For sure, but I’m not running the club. I didn’t like the diary. It has an “air” of patronising. The one position that massively needed addressing, didn’t happen. That’s a fail. Patronising! Says the person who is possibly the main agravator, therby provoking a compromised approach. If you moderate your extremes perhaps they wouldn't be dancing on a pin head. I would support then ridiculing your type more than before, but that would prompt you to be even more provokational than you are above. They won't win with people like you. Not true. Promised forwards. Signed ladapo- who apparently we tracked all summer. We can all see he miles off the pace. Marshall a young kid who is decent but shouldn’t be playing every week. Our biggest rivals took May away from us. Too much was the reply. So hardly showing great ambition. Summer signings Marshall - loan Lonwijk - loan Hodge - loan Miller - free (excellent player) Evans £475,000 apparently. Ladapo - free Sorensen - £500,000 ?? Sold Rudhoni - upto 6 million with add ons? Thomas -loan is there a loan fee ? So clearly it looks like the money coming in is greater than the money spent. Where is the ambition ? So forgive if I’m taking everything Nagle says with a pinch of salt. |
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Post by royrace on Oct 25, 2024 8:10:02 GMT 1
Genuinely no idea why anyone thinks goal music will improve the atmosphere. All it'll do is add a bit of extra (fake) noise for a few seconds and that's it. That isn't an atmosphere Exactly. The only way to improve it IMO, as well as the product on the pitch, is to work with the cowshed loyal. Provide some sort of funding, allow them use of facilities, provide discounted tickets. Basically do anything they can to get the cowshed full of people who will make noise and build the atmosphere. Made a huge difference in the Wagner years. |
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Post by Sio on Oct 25, 2024 8:20:17 GMT 1
Genuinely no idea why anyone thinks goal music will improve the atmosphere. All it'll do is add a bit of extra (fake) noise for a few seconds and that's it. That isn't an atmosphere Exactly. The only way to improve it IMO, as well as the product on the pitch, is to work with the cowshed loyal. Provide some sort of funding, allow them use of facilities, provide discounted tickets. Basically do anything they can to get the cowshed full of people who will make noise and build the atmosphere. Made a huge difference in the Wagner years. For what it's worth, the club have always been good with the CL and so far that hasn't changed under Nagle. But there is only so much the group can influence or encourage at the moment - again, there HAS to be something to cheer about or it will continue to be muted. It has been too miserable for too long and we are finally seeing the result of that. |
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Post by oneneilwarnock on Oct 25, 2024 8:25:53 GMT 1
Probably best learning how to look at pictures first Dunc. For sure, but I’m not running the club. I didn’t like the diary. It has an “air” of patronising. The one position that massively needed addressing, didn’t happen. That’s a fail. I find it quite funny they go missing for weeks then come on giving it the big one with a patronising/condescending tone thinking they have achieved something having us sat 5th, below recently promoted Mansfield in a league we haven't played in for 12 years. I just find the behaviour petulant at the best of times. Stop trying to make everything about you and let the manager and players get on with it. |
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Post by Macduff on Oct 25, 2024 9:03:38 GMT 1
For sure, but I’m not running the club. I didn’t like the diary. It has an “air” of patronising. The one position that massively needed addressing, didn’t happen. That’s a fail. I find it quite funny they go missing for weeks then come on giving it the big one with a patronising/condescending tone thinking they have achieved something having us sat 5th, below recently promoted Mansfield in a league we haven't played in for 12 years. I just find the behaviour petulant at the best of times. Stop trying to make everything about you and let the manager and players get on with it. As KN owns the club quite a lot of it is about him. Not noticed any petulance in the diaries, which I have enjoyed. Not on X so maybe have missed something there although couldn't give a shiny shite about that type of SM. UTT |
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Post by mosher on Oct 25, 2024 9:25:49 GMT 1
Listen. Charlton are selling Half and half scarves for the Wrexham game. I don’t care how good or bad the diary is. At least we aren’t doing that. And Dave / Kev if you’re reading this…don’t …ever…do….that Whilst I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment, if idiots/pricks/bellends/plastics/spanners** want to waste their money on shite like that we shouldn’t deny ourselves the revenue 😂 ** pick an adjective time 😉 |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 25, 2024 9:27:44 GMT 1
Patronising! Says the person who is possibly the main agravator, therby provoking a compromised approach. If you moderate your extremes perhaps they wouldn't be dancing on a pin head. I would support then ridiculing your type more than before, but that would prompt you to be even more provokational than you are above. They won't win with people like you. Not true. Promised forwards. Signed ladapo- who apparently we tracked all summer. We can all see he miles off the pace. Marshall a young kid who is decent but shouldn’t be playing every week. Our biggest rivals took May away from us. Too much was the reply. So hardly showing great ambition. Summer signings Marshall - loan Lonwijk - loan Hodge - loan Miller - free (excellent player) Evans £475,000 apparently. Ladapo - free Sorensen - £500,000 ?? Sold Rudhoni - upto 6 million with add ons? Thomas -loan is there a loan fee ? So clearly it looks like the money coming in is greater than the money spent. Where is the ambition ? So forgive if I’m taking everything Nagle says with a pinch of salt. Do you really think we should have paid May more than 20k a week and a 500k relocation fee? Thats before bonuses. |
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Post by mosher on Oct 25, 2024 9:27:59 GMT 1
Patience. That’s what KN is now saying. Changed his tune from premier league in three years. I wish I could understand why a billionaire has bought our club. It’s clear he didn’t want to spend and give us the pace and quality required up front. I genuinely believe if we had that we would go up. Once more KN backtracks …….. How many times does it need to be said? KN never once claimed Prem in 3 years, it was a hand grenade that King Colin threw that fans have gleefully (and wrongly) run with |
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Post by mosher on Oct 25, 2024 9:33:45 GMT 1
Patronising! Says the person who is possibly the main agravator, therby provoking a compromised approach. If you moderate your extremes perhaps they wouldn't be dancing on a pin head. I would support then ridiculing your type more than before, but that would prompt you to be even more provokational than you are above. They won't win with people like you. Not true. Promised forwards. Signed ladapo- who apparently we tracked all summer. We can all see he miles off the pace. Marshall a young kid who is decent but shouldn’t be playing every week. Our biggest rivals took May away from us. Too much was the reply. So hardly showing great ambition. Summer signings Marshall - loan Lonwijk - loan Hodge - loan Miller - free (excellent player) Evans £475,000 apparently. Ladapo - free Sorensen - £500,000 ?? Sold Rudhoni - upto 6 million with add ons? Thomas -loan is there a loan fee ? So clearly it looks like the money coming in is greater than the money spent. Where is the ambition ? So forgive if I’m taking everything Nagle says with a pinch of salt. Mentioning Rudoni, completely ignoring his transfer fee is completely eaten (and more) by the drop in revenue and not sacking any staff to compensate |
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Post by Uddersfield on Oct 25, 2024 9:37:48 GMT 1
Genuinely no idea why anyone thinks goal music will improve the atmosphere. All it'll do is add a bit of extra (fake) noise for a few seconds and that's it. That isn't an atmosphere Agreed it won't -That drummer going skits on his drum 0.01 seconds after a goal goes in does my head in as well. |
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Post by irverino on Oct 25, 2024 10:00:40 GMT 1
Listen. Charlton are selling Half and half scarves for the Wrexham game. I don’t care how good or bad the diary is. At least we aren’t doing that. And Dave / Kev if you’re reading this…don’t …ever…do….that Over 20k seats sold, I don't get it personally but everywhere the Welshmen go too these days is attracting lot bigger than normal attendances.......Charlton v Brum only reached a mere 16,250. |
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Post by townarentbest on Oct 25, 2024 10:16:09 GMT 1
Patronising! Says the person who is possibly the main agravator, therby provoking a compromised approach. If you moderate your extremes perhaps they wouldn't be dancing on a pin head. I would support then ridiculing your type more than before, but that would prompt you to be even more provokational than you are above. They won't win with people like you. Not true. Promised forwards. Signed ladapo- who apparently we tracked all summer. We can all see he miles off the pace. Marshall a young kid who is decent but shouldn’t be playing every week. Our biggest rivals took May away from us. Too much was the reply. So hardly showing great ambition. Summer signings Marshall - loan Lonwijk - loan Hodge - loan Miller - free (excellent player) Evans £475,000 apparently. Ladapo - free Sorensen - £500,000 ?? Sold Rudhoni - upto 6 million with add ons? Thomas -loan is there a loan fee ? So clearly it looks like the money coming in is greater than the money spent. Where is the ambition ? So forgive if I’m taking everything Nagle says with a pinch of salt. I forecast a future diary where Justasmithers refers to us being the only club who loan players out for a fee but their 3 loan signings from Premier League clubs come at no outlay to Town. " I read it somewhere, it must be true, where is all the money going Kevin?!"🤭😀 |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Oct 25, 2024 10:24:46 GMT 1
Not true. Promised forwards. Signed ladapo- who apparently we tracked all summer. We can all see he miles off the pace. Marshall a young kid who is decent but shouldn’t be playing every week. Our biggest rivals took May away from us. Too much was the reply. So hardly showing great ambition. Summer signings Marshall - loan Lonwijk - loan Hodge - loan Miller - free (excellent player) Evans £475,000 apparently. Ladapo - free Sorensen - £500,000 ?? Sold Rudhoni - upto 6 million with add ons? Thomas -loan is there a loan fee ? So clearly it looks like the money coming in is greater than the money spent. Where is the ambition ? So forgive if I’m taking everything Nagle says with a pinch of salt. Mentioning Rudoni, completely ignoring his transfer fee is completely eaten (and more) by the drop in revenue and not sacking any staff to compensate Yep, that's what happens after a disaster season where the constant poor decision making at the top leads to relegation. You need to sell players to try and balance the books. I reckon the loan fee for Sorba plus the undisclosed fees for Jackson, Simpson, Austerfield and Harratt would have just about covered the transfers for Sorensen and Evans aswell, so we should have some budget to use in January if needed? |
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Post by royrace on Oct 25, 2024 10:34:47 GMT 1
Exactly. The only way to improve it IMO, as well as the product on the pitch, is to work with the cowshed loyal. Provide some sort of funding, allow them use of facilities, provide discounted tickets. Basically do anything they can to get the cowshed full of people who will make noise and build the atmosphere. Made a huge difference in the Wagner years. For what it's worth, the club have always been good with the CL and so far that hasn't changed under Nagle. But there is only so much the group can influence or encourage at the moment - again, there HAS to be something to cheer about or it will continue to be muted. It has been too miserable for too long and we are finally seeing the result of that. I've no idea how it's run but just feels like it might help if they were provided some sort of discount on tickets, funding for displays, storage facilities, marketing opportunities, free beer (joking) etc. A cowshed full of enthused, noisy town fans makes all the difference. Let some people in for free for some games if necessary, just fill it! If the product on the pitch is crap there's nothing you can do but if this season goes according to plan we'll be winning way more than we lose and hopefully pushing for promotion. |
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Post by ram on Oct 25, 2024 10:37:52 GMT 1
The diaries,for me,are a decent 30 minutes or so watch.What boils my piss is the constantly blowing smoke up Cartwrights arse.Anybody can see he is doing a poor job except,it seems,the bloke paying him to get us the players to promote us!
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Post by royrace on Oct 25, 2024 10:42:32 GMT 1
Mentioning Rudoni, completely ignoring his transfer fee is completely eaten (and more) by the drop in revenue and not sacking any staff to compensate Yep, that's what happens after a disaster season where the constant poor decision making at the top leads to relegation. You need to sell players to try and balance the books. I reckon the loan fee for Sorba plus the undisclosed fees for Jackson, Simpson, Austerfield and Harratt would have just about covered the transfers for Sorensen and Evans aswell, so we should have some budget to use in January if needed? The transfers have been underwhelming to be honest. I expected we'd try to recruit potential for the league above, from what I've seen so far we really haven't done that. Hodge and Miller the only two who look capable of playing higher so far imo, although both of them deemed not good enough last season, maybe Marshall in time. This is why it's hard being a DoF and it's not as simple of signing players from the L1 team of the season. Finding players too good for L1 who are prepared to play in L1 is hard. That's why they earn the big bucks and why they're so key to success. |
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Post by rockwall on Oct 25, 2024 10:50:48 GMT 1
Enjoyed the diary.
One request... Dave, how about you be the resident DJ before Kick off whenever you're here?? I think you alone would get the crowd going!
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Post by dumbo on Oct 25, 2024 11:33:41 GMT 1
Don't mind the diaries and enjoy any discussion on the wider business developments. Something where the guys have a fresh perspective and a lot of experience.
Most interesting part of this update was the stadium. Maybe I misunderstood but sounds like the deal isn't as complete as I thought. And the council and Giants have jumped the gun a little on announcements. But then we have H-Town opening soon and the gas club being demolished. Anyway seems promising and looking forward to more updates.
Huddersfield Unlimited was also an interesting snippet. Sounded like Kevin was speaking to them about the stadium and club, but I wonder/hope if he might get more involved. The council, University and business sector plans for the health and well-being developments seem a perfect fit for an investor with Nagles background and contacts.
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Post by Mastercracker on Oct 25, 2024 11:33:52 GMT 1
Enjoyed the diary. One request... Dave, how about you be the resident DJ before Kick off whenever you're here?? I think you alone would get the crowd going! All fun and games until someone storms out of Box 17 windmilling. |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Oct 25, 2024 11:49:21 GMT 1
I love the “back of a fag packet” accountants on here. Confidently brandishing their theories and opinions as though they are sat at their keyboards with the current club accounts open on a spreadsheet.  |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Oct 25, 2024 11:55:56 GMT 1
Enjoyed the diary. One request... Dave, how about you be the resident DJ before Kick off whenever you're here?? I think you alone would get the crowd going! All fun and games until someone storms out of Box 17 windmilling. 18. |
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Post by Sio on Oct 25, 2024 12:07:52 GMT 1
Don't mind the diaries and enjoy any discussion on the wider business developments. Something where the guys have a fresh perspective and a lot of experience. Most interesting part of this update was the stadium. Maybe I misunderstood but sounds like the deal isn't as complete as I thought. And the council and Giants have jumped the gun a little on announcements. But then we have H-Town opening soon and the gas club being demolished. Anyway seems promising and looking forward to more updates. Huddersfield Unlimited was also an interesting snippet. Sounded like Kevin was speaking to them about the stadium and club, but I wonder/hope if he might get more involved. The council, University and business sector plans for the health and well-being developments seem a perfect fit for an investor with Nagles background and contacts. Correct on the stadium. For whatever reason, the council, Giants or the press have incorrectly reported it. Presumably an ulterior motive to put pressure on one side of the deal? Nothing to suggest it won't get done but currently it isn't. |
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Post by dumbo on Oct 25, 2024 12:19:21 GMT 1
Don't mind the diaries and enjoy any discussion on the wider business developments. Something where the guys have a fresh perspective and a lot of experience. Most interesting part of this update was the stadium. Maybe I misunderstood but sounds like the deal isn't as complete as I thought. And the council and Giants have jumped the gun a little on announcements. But then we have H-Town opening soon and the gas club being demolished. Anyway seems promising and looking forward to more updates. Huddersfield Unlimited was also an interesting snippet. Sounded like Kevin was speaking to them about the stadium and club, but I wonder/hope if he might get more involved. The council, University and business sector plans for the health and well-being developments seem a perfect fit for an investor with Nagles background and contacts. Correct on the stadium. For whatever reason, the council, Giants or the press have incorrectly reported it. Presumably an ulterior motive to put pressure on one side of the deal? Nothing to suggest it won't get done but currently it isn't. That's a bit odd, hopefully it's very close, but it was reported a couple weeks ago now so would have hoped it was wrapped up by now. if not completed soon then would be nice to hear more on the subject from Nagle. It's seems to me to be in danger of getting messy with Nagle spending on the stadium he doesn't fully control and the council knocking down the gas works they presumably don't fully own. Then the Giants doing whatever they are doing. |
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